EPTVeraLynn; GM fraud - Page 22
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britneysbeers
United Kingdom22 Posts
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Psychonian
United States2322 Posts
On September 25 2012 07:12 VirgilSC2 wrote: What's wrong is VeraLynn isn't just a smurf name on a ladder account, it's actually a person (female) taking credit for all the winning DeathAngel did on her account, including offering paid coaching, webshow appearances, etc. Oh wow. That's huge. Agreed with Kawaii. | ||
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Selkie
United States530 Posts
On September 25 2012 05:18 KiWiKaKi wrote: popcorn time I wish this was reddit and I could upvote this, because this was the EXACT thought going through my head the entire time I was reading this. | ||
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Ein0r
Germany32 Posts
To be unfair: Good looks and boobs work everywhere  I'm somehow surprised though that it took a very long time for a topic like this to actually be detected. My pitchforks are all polished, lets go and find the right one to use for this occasion. | ||
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
On September 25 2012 07:07 Noobity wrote: Unfortunately here's me being the one guy going against the grain it seems. I'm not going to argue whether or not something dumb went down. Veralynn and Deathangel both done goofed pretty bad. What I'm going to say however is that we should offer some amount of leniency because of the good that has been done. I don't think anyone would deny that more tournament sites and better run eSports companies like Z33K are a good thing, and it seems from the posts of those involved with Z33K (previously or currently) that she's done a lot of good there. Ban her from participating as a player anywhere, but don't run her out of the community. If she wants to come forward, admit what she's done, and stick strictly to what we know she's done a good job with, then allow it. I've also seen her coach live, and she certainly seems more engaging than a lot of other coaches you watch. The ability to play at the highest level doesn't make you automatically fit to teach, and the inability to play at the highest level doesn't make you unfit to teach. Keep an eye on them, let them do whatever it is within the scene that they do that has nothing to do with playing themselves. Aside from morals and other subjective things, I don't see what that would hurt. I will in no way defend their actions, just ask that we're smarter in handling this than we have been in the past. I would NOT say she was doing "good" for the scene with her coaching. She was advertised as a GM level player coaching and the people who received her coaching was expecting that. While you have a point that you don`t need to be GM to be a good coach, the point is that people were misled she was GM and that is most likely a big factor in their decision to have her coach. This false advertisement is more bad than good. If she did other things behind the scenes that didn`t involve taking money from and misleading people, I would agree with your post. | ||
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Shantastic
United States435 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23745 Posts
On September 25 2012 07:13 Fionn wrote: Can we not punish DeathAngel? I want him to go to the next Dreamhack and have people throw pink streamers at him, have signs like 'YOU GO, GIRL!' and 'VERALYNN4EVER' for him. Haha yes, shame him that way is a good call. It's a shame really, Deathangel was a pretty good player and he had decent runs at Code A when he was over in Korea. So disappointing! | ||
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kuan888
Canada305 Posts
On September 25 2012 05:17 YourBestFriend wrote: can someone explain more clearly pls dont really understand ( i am french) thx DeathAngel played for VeraLynn for her games (tournament/showmatch) | ||
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fickazzz
Germany152 Posts
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Psychonian
United States2322 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168417 TL drama FTW | ||
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Chaves
Brazil315 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On September 25 2012 07:15 britneysbeers wrote: I'm saddened by these revelations- but I have to say I was always surprised by the BM'ing that she did in game since she didn't appear that type of person when on cam. Anyway hes one of her matches for those that havn't seen "her" play http://youtu.be/yZfYwvyj4BQ Even the nicest of people rage on ladder. RTS' do that to people. | ||
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Pusekatten
Norway234 Posts
Keep up the good work. | ||
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
On September 25 2012 07:16 Wombat_NI wrote: Haha yes, shame him that way is a good call. It's a shame really, Deathangel was a pretty good player and he had decent runs at Code A when he was over in Korea. So disappointing! Code A? ......you mean attempting to qualify in code B? I don`t recall a foreigner making it to code A from qualifiers. He certaintly never got a code A invite. | ||
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Plaaank
United Kingdom16 Posts
Save the drama for your mama! | ||
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phodacbiet
United States1739 Posts
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On September 25 2012 07:13 Fionn wrote: Can we not punish DeathAngel? I want him to go to the next Dreamhack and have people throw pink streamers at him, have signs like 'YOU GO, GIRL!' and 'VERALYNN4EVER' for him. This would make me so happy. | ||
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gosuRabbit
United States15 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23745 Posts
On September 25 2012 07:21 mango_destroyer wrote: Code A? ......you mean attempting to qualify in code B? I don`t recall a foreigner making it to code A from qualifiers. He certaintly never got a code A invite. Yeah what I said, a decent run at Code A, made the prelim finals twice if I recall correctly! | ||
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Plaaank
United Kingdom16 Posts
I wonder if tampons make good projectiles. | ||
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