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britneysbeers
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom22 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 22:16:01
September 24 2012 22:15 GMT
#421
I'm saddened by these revelations- but I have to say I was always surprised by the BM'ing that she did in game since she didn't appear that type of person when on cam. Anyway hes one of her matches for those that havn't seen "her" play

Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 24 2012 22:15 GMT
#422
On September 25 2012 07:12 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 07:08 Psychonian wrote:
I don't get it.

You're accusing DeathAngel of being VeraLynn? So...what's the problem with DeathAngel being the same as VeraLynn?

What's wrong is VeraLynn isn't just a smurf name on a ladder account, it's actually a person (female) taking credit for all the winning DeathAngel did on her account, including offering paid coaching, webshow appearances, etc.

Oh wow. That's huge.
Agreed with Kawaii.
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Selkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States530 Posts
September 24 2012 22:15 GMT
#423
On September 25 2012 05:18 KiWiKaKi wrote:
popcorn time


I wish this was reddit and I could upvote this, because this was the EXACT thought going through my head the entire time I was reading this.
Ein0r
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany32 Posts
September 24 2012 22:15 GMT
#424
So, a fraud incident came to light. Now to a more interesting topic like doping in professional esports!!
To be unfair: Good looks and boobs work everywhere
I'm somehow surprised though that it took a very long time for a topic like this to actually be detected. My pitchforks are all polished, lets go and find the right one to use for this occasion.
Ich sinnlose vor mich hin und das mit Begeisterung.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
September 24 2012 22:16 GMT
#425
On September 25 2012 07:07 Noobity wrote:
Unfortunately here's me being the one guy going against the grain it seems.

I'm not going to argue whether or not something dumb went down. Veralynn and Deathangel both done goofed pretty bad.

What I'm going to say however is that we should offer some amount of leniency because of the good that has been done. I don't think anyone would deny that more tournament sites and better run eSports companies like Z33K are a good thing, and it seems from the posts of those involved with Z33K (previously or currently) that she's done a lot of good there. Ban her from participating as a player anywhere, but don't run her out of the community. If she wants to come forward, admit what she's done, and stick strictly to what we know she's done a good job with, then allow it.

I've also seen her coach live, and she certainly seems more engaging than a lot of other coaches you watch. The ability to play at the highest level doesn't make you automatically fit to teach, and the inability to play at the highest level doesn't make you unfit to teach.

Keep an eye on them, let them do whatever it is within the scene that they do that has nothing to do with playing themselves. Aside from morals and other subjective things, I don't see what that would hurt.

I will in no way defend their actions, just ask that we're smarter in handling this than we have been in the past.


I would NOT say she was doing "good" for the scene with her coaching. She was advertised as a GM level player coaching and the people who received her coaching was expecting that. While you have a point that you don`t need to be GM to be a good coach, the point is that people were misled she was GM and that is most likely a big factor in their decision to have her coach. This false advertisement is more bad than good.

If she did other things behind the scenes that didn`t involve taking money from and misleading people, I would agree with your post.
Shantastic
Profile Joined October 2011
United States435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 22:17:20
September 24 2012 22:16 GMT
#426
I guess it was a mistake buying her GM Zerg 12-lesson $100 value pack yesterday, then :S
"My grandpa could have proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, but he's also dead." -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27343 Posts
September 24 2012 22:16 GMT
#427
On September 25 2012 07:13 Fionn wrote:
Can we not punish DeathAngel? I want him to go to the next Dreamhack and have people throw pink streamers at him, have signs like 'YOU GO, GIRL!' and 'VERALYNN4EVER' for him.

Haha yes, shame him that way is a good call. It's a shame really, Deathangel was a pretty good player and he had decent runs at Code A when he was over in Korea. So disappointing!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
kuan888
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada305 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 22:51:28
September 24 2012 22:17 GMT
#428
On September 25 2012 05:17 YourBestFriend wrote:
can someone explain more clearly pls dont really understand ( i am french)
thx


DeathAngel played for VeraLynn for her games (tournament/showmatch)

What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. -Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche ||| Acer.Scarlett <3
fickazzz
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany152 Posts
September 24 2012 22:17 GMT
#429
never heard of her before, guess thats a good thing^^ wonder how much she payed to deathangel :O
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 24 2012 22:18 GMT
#430
Ok well after reading and understanding this fully...

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168417

TL drama FTW
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Chaves
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Brazil315 Posts
September 24 2012 22:19 GMT
#431
Wow - YOU SHALL NOT SMURF
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 22:20:09
September 24 2012 22:20 GMT
#432
On September 25 2012 07:15 britneysbeers wrote:
I'm saddened by these revelations- but I have to say I was always surprised by the BM'ing that she did in game since she didn't appear that type of person when on cam. Anyway hes one of her matches for those that havn't seen "her" play

http://youtu.be/yZfYwvyj4BQ

Even the nicest of people rage on ladder. RTS' do that to people.
Refer to my post.
Pusekatten
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway234 Posts
September 24 2012 22:20 GMT
#433
Nice find KawaiiRice Keep up the good work.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
September 24 2012 22:21 GMT
#434
On September 25 2012 07:16 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 07:13 Fionn wrote:
Can we not punish DeathAngel? I want him to go to the next Dreamhack and have people throw pink streamers at him, have signs like 'YOU GO, GIRL!' and 'VERALYNN4EVER' for him.

Haha yes, shame him that way is a good call. It's a shame really, Deathangel was a pretty good player and he had decent runs at Code A when he was over in Korea. So disappointing!


Code A? ......you mean attempting to qualify in code B? I don`t recall a foreigner making it to code A from qualifiers. He certaintly never got a code A invite.
Plaaank
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom16 Posts
September 24 2012 22:21 GMT
#435
Ah jeeze. Unfortunate that this stuff happens in a community like this where you can actually bullshit your way into making money.

Save the drama for your mama!
I did nothing! The pavement was his enemy!
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
September 24 2012 22:21 GMT
#436
I say we write to her sponsors ! What she was doing would be fine but she is making a profit from it so she should be punished imo.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
September 24 2012 22:21 GMT
#437
On September 25 2012 07:13 Fionn wrote:
Can we not punish DeathAngel? I want him to go to the next Dreamhack and have people throw pink streamers at him, have signs like 'YOU GO, GIRL!' and 'VERALYNN4EVER' for him.

This would make me so happy.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
gosuRabbit
Profile Joined November 2011
United States15 Posts
September 24 2012 22:21 GMT
#438
i hate that these things happen. but..... honestly i love the drama
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27343 Posts
September 24 2012 22:22 GMT
#439
On September 25 2012 07:21 mango_destroyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 07:16 Wombat_NI wrote:
On September 25 2012 07:13 Fionn wrote:
Can we not punish DeathAngel? I want him to go to the next Dreamhack and have people throw pink streamers at him, have signs like 'YOU GO, GIRL!' and 'VERALYNN4EVER' for him.

Haha yes, shame him that way is a good call. It's a shame really, Deathangel was a pretty good player and he had decent runs at Code A when he was over in Korea. So disappointing!


Code A? ......you mean attempting to qualify in code B? I don`t recall a foreigner making it to code A from qualifiers. He certaintly never got a code A invite.

Yeah what I said, a decent run at Code A, made the prelim finals twice if I recall correctly!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Plaaank
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom16 Posts
September 24 2012 22:23 GMT
#440
On September 25 2012 07:21 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 07:13 Fionn wrote:
Can we not punish DeathAngel? I want him to go to the next Dreamhack and have people throw pink streamers at him, have signs like 'YOU GO, GIRL!' and 'VERALYNN4EVER' for him.

This would make me so happy.


I wonder if tampons make good projectiles.
I did nothing! The pavement was his enemy!
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