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Stop derailing with living cost talk On September 13 2012 07:51 MinistryOfWin wrote: Press Release: http://www.ministryofwin.com/news/press-release-september-13th-2012 Stay tuned for the article on ESFIWORLD.com. - Wednesday, Sep 12 10:51pm GMT (GMT+00:00) On September 13 2012 08:02 MinistryOfWin wrote: http://esfiworld.com/news/ministry-win-respond-fuzers-claims - Wednesday, Sep 12 11:02pm GMT (GMT+00:00) | ||
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Magic526
England8 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule19260 Posts
On September 13 2012 08:27 Chill wrote: That would be awesome. Especially if they did it in winter. I some provinces in Canada you can't be evicted if the temperature is below a certain range. I doubt these kind of laws exist in Poland but I have no idea. But without having signed a contract he's a squatter, not a tenant. | ||
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TeslasPigeon
464 Posts
On September 13 2012 08:29 Defrag wrote: They do, and besides normal situations, they are completely insane when it comes to woman with children. Basically impossible to evict anyone unless you yourself get them another place to live. Oh god, I hope the other people who are staying there read this thread. Maybe invite a couple of romani friends over. | ||
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
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Leijona
Finland56 Posts
On September 13 2012 08:27 Chill wrote: That would be awesome. Especially if they did it in winter. I some provinces in Canada you can't be evicted if the temperature is below a certain range. I doubt these kind of laws exist in Poland but I have no idea. Seriously Liquid needs to pull out from MoW. Teamliquid just can't be part of shady stuff like this. Seriously. Get Ret out of there. Teamliquid is supposed to be the good guys above all this shit. You just can't be part of this when the manager is what it is and the way they're threating some players. | ||
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Quasimoto3000
United States471 Posts
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Gorilla23
United States339 Posts
On September 13 2012 08:28 insanet wrote: This is getting worse, are actually quoting yourself saying "if you start a war you are not getting your money back", thats what you saying becaouse you are using the word OR. You are offering 2 options. You are not guaranteing his money back. I didn't have much of an opinion before reading this MoW post. I can't believe someone trying to be professional and in a position of power would say that... MoW sounds like I did when I was 15. This just makes me sad. So tired of crap like this. | ||
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scares
Germany239 Posts
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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Timerly
Germany511 Posts
On September 13 2012 08:20 Chill wrote: It looked really nice. Right, there's a rental fee and some of that fee is subsidized by streaming revenue. Guess what? If you don't like it, then don't live there. This is a privately-run house. It would make sense if the conditions met the sum. They clearly don't, even desrow who doesn't even pay doesn't jump from joy apparently. The let him come there under the impression they would renegotiate and change parts of the contract and required him to make his lawyer forward them a legal license after? Really? Fuck, I worked for a multi million dollar business and had a pretty tight NDA/NCC and even those guys didn't care whether I provided that about my lawyer. Much less some random private business in Poland. It's far from common practice and just an obstructive tactic around Europe. It's not only about "take it or leave it". It's much more about what they're doing with people who have no idea what they're really getting into due to lack of experience with this kind of thing. Is it generally reasonable to run this as a business with this kind of business model? Sure. Is the conduct they display in any ways a reflection of this kind of thing being done in a reasonable, agreeable way? Absolutely not. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On September 13 2012 08:31 tofucake wrote: But without having signed a contract he's a squatter, not a tenant. Indeed. | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
On September 13 2012 08:31 tofucake wrote: But without having signed a contract he's a squatter, not a tenant. A skype call is legally binding in EU as a verbal contract. | ||
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On September 13 2012 08:33 Darkhoarse wrote: The statement released by MoW makes little sense. They say they have a skype convo of fuzer refusing the money back, but they don't show it, whereas Fuzer shows concrete evidence that they wouldn't refund him. Desrow mentioned that the 10 year rule of not getting into another team house is accurate which is completely ridiculous. Just seems like an unproffessional and sketchy organization People reading what they want to read, zzz. Desrow said the streaming and the ability to not create their own team house after 10 years is accurate. MoW also provided part of the skype chat where they offered to give him the money. Which is what everyone asked for but now its apparently not enough. | ||
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TeslasPigeon
464 Posts
On September 13 2012 08:31 tofucake wrote: But without having signed a contract he's a squatter, not a tenant. If Fuzer paid in cash for rent, he is more than obligated to enforce his rights as a tenant. Just because Boss was foolish to accept cash doesn't negate Fuzer his tenant rights. | ||
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ikh
United Kingdom251 Posts
my impression is that ministry of win might well be a good place for progamers to practice at (as ret and titan say), but i've my doubts whether it's any thanks to the mow administration rather than the players themselves. | ||
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nakedsurfer
Canada500 Posts
On September 13 2012 08:14 MinistryOfWin wrote: http://i.imgur.com/PFNQU.png It is all about because we have removed him from the house. He was acting really childish through the past 30 days. Last time he came to me with the money he threw them at me and said "This is the money for my stay". Furthermore we would like to state, that the Ministry of Win Contract Agreement has been created with the cooperation of the original five guests of the house. It took us two weeks of intense collaboration to ensure that the final document is the most convenient for both the players themselves and us. In light of numerous violations of the house rules and a general lack of respect towards both fellow residents and the staff of Game Zone Sp. z o.o. (L.L.C.) as of yesterday (11th September 2012) Fuzer has been asked to leave the house. An amicable solution could have not been reached although such has been proposed. Lol. We'll give you your money back if you don't say anything. If you say something, we won't give you your money back. Good Job MoW. This statement makes you look so good LOL | ||
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Timerly
Germany511 Posts
On September 13 2012 08:35 HornyHerring wrote: A skype call is legally binding in EU as a verbal contract. Not necessarily, there are higher burden on things like living and rent agreements etc. Basically, without a written contract it's up to the judge. | ||
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enCore-
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Brahoono
119 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:48 Timerly wrote: 600€ a month for living in a shared house, even including meals, in POLAND is already ridiculous. A three-bedroom apartement in the Warsaw still goes for 1000€...I could live on my own in the generally more expensive Germany on 600€ without any problems. That would have to be one kickass house. I'm talking jacuzzi. If pros pay that price it is okay. Supply and demand.... | ||
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