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Battle.net World Championship Format - Page 3

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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 11 2012 05:45 GMT
#41
On September 11 2012 14:44 Azzur wrote:
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On September 11 2012 14:38 opterown wrote:
i wonder what BOx group stage is? hopefully bo3 (bo1 too flippy, and bo5 too long)

bo3
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In the group stage, the 4 players of each group are split into two pairs and will play each other in best of 3 matches

ah thanks, obviously i need to learn to read haha.
looks good!
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Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
September 11 2012 06:52 GMT
#42
Meh too random. On the other hand there are not more than six koreans so the whole tournament does not mean much. And we can also see all the games.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Mr_Z
Profile Joined June 2011
South Africa88 Posts
September 11 2012 07:52 GMT
#43
Like the format, the picture of the group stage confused the daylights out of me had to actually read but good format, let's just hope for some epic games
Always last :(
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
September 11 2012 08:09 GMT
#44
On September 11 2012 11:44 CoR wrote:
WHY does they announce A vs H etc ? if you H and A is someone like SEED you just going for 2nd place to avoid him ,....


That's far too risky, to purposefully shoot for second place, because you might get unlucky and lose the final match of the group. If there was a match to decide who gets #1 and who gets #2 it might have been beneficial to drop a series on purpose for seeding, but with this format noone will want to risk it.
Such flammable little insects!
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
September 11 2012 08:18 GMT
#45
On September 11 2012 09:01 Pinski wrote:
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On September 11 2012 08:42 Iodem wrote:
Looks sweet.

I'm curious how much money will be in the prize pool though. Will it be comparable to Valve's money dump into The International?


Asia: $127,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals(9), and Asia Finals(32).
Europe: $190,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals(9), and Europe Finals(32).
North America: $120,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals(9), and North America Finals(32).
Oceania: $30,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals(2), and Oceania Finals(8).
South America: $45,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals (3) and South America Finals(16).

Total of $512,000 in prize pool, with the WCS World Finals prize pool still to be announced.

While not as large as Valve's $1.6 million, it's still nothing to laugh at.


Also, the nationals' prize pool.
Vinc
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany40 Posts
September 11 2012 08:29 GMT
#46
I wonder if there are any plans to stream the drawing?

I would like it!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 11 2012 08:33 GMT
#47
On September 11 2012 17:18 RageBot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 09:01 Pinski wrote:
On September 11 2012 08:42 Iodem wrote:
Looks sweet.

I'm curious how much money will be in the prize pool though. Will it be comparable to Valve's money dump into The International?


Asia: $127,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals(9), and Asia Finals(32).
Europe: $190,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals(9), and Europe Finals(32).
North America: $120,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals(9), and North America Finals(32).
Oceania: $30,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals(2), and Oceania Finals(8).
South America: $45,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals (3) and South America Finals(16).

Total of $512,000 in prize pool, with the WCS World Finals prize pool still to be announced.

While not as large as Valve's $1.6 million, it's still nothing to laugh at.


Also, the nationals' prize pool.

this is inclusive of the nationals iirc (asia, NA, and europe are 60k each)
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
September 11 2012 08:37 GMT
#48
Good format. Me like.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
September 11 2012 08:40 GMT
#49
On September 11 2012 17:29 Vinc wrote:
I wonder if there are any plans to stream the drawing?

I would like it!

Seriously, more tournaments need to stream drawing!! GSL "drawings" are fun, HSC drawing are fun too (and hilariously chaotic). I think there was some DH tournament 2011 (DH Summer?) they did it too, it was fun to speculate how the groups would turn out.

Even better if they'd have progamers doing the random drawing out of a bowl with a list of names or something. The awkward situation where someone places his best friend in group of death or draws only his worst matchup to himself, or anything along those lines.
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
September 11 2012 10:18 GMT
#50
On September 11 2012 09:14 Conti wrote:
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On September 11 2012 09:04 AKomrade wrote:
Whew. I thought they were going to do the crazy MLG format. Good look, Blizz.

Also important to note that League and DOTA2 are games that involve multiple people on the same team. From a raw money standpoint it looks like a lot, but per person its going to be roughly equal.

One fifth of one million is still ten times as much as you can make from an MLG championship win..


How frequently are their tournaments with $1,000,000.00 prize pools? Are those prize pools sustainable for organizers after including operational costs as well in the long term?
Syncker
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland142 Posts
September 11 2012 10:31 GMT
#51
On September 11 2012 08:48 Noam wrote:
When comparing WCS prize money don't just look at the grand final, you need to add up all the nationals and continentals.

Also every flight and hotels are payed by blizzard.
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 14:54:34
September 11 2012 14:52 GMT
#52
On September 11 2012 13:46 DDie wrote:
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On September 11 2012 08:59 pallad wrote:
Riot is making more money from in-game shops that blizzard ever made of Sc2 nad BW , i think its sound stupid , but MABY Riot in making more money from in-game shop that blizzard from WoW.



Blizzard makes 130 mil a month from subs alone, i would be surprised if riot made 1/5 of that.


You must have very old data for that number , blizzard was making that much in WoW gold times TBC/early WOLTK , then they lost milions of subscribes .

Read this
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/08/03/world-of-warcraft-drops-a-million-subscribers-in-three-months/
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ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
September 11 2012 15:51 GMT
#53
just a question... will the battle net tournaments be coming soon? ( like we had in warcraft 3)
Yes im
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
September 11 2012 16:25 GMT
#54
I would have liked it if they just kept their Double Elimination format they used in all natinonal and contitental qualifiers as well.
Thats a very fair format and would show some continuity.
Finalmastery
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States58 Posts
September 11 2012 19:39 GMT
#55
So happy this is happening it's like the Olympics of Starcraft. While prize pool is important, the prestige of winning for your country should be at the forefront of what everything player is thinking about.
" The will to win is nothing without the will to prepare" - Juma Ikaanga
Cinim
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark866 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 20:10:07
September 11 2012 20:05 GMT
#56
On September 11 2012 08:59 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 08:44 heyoka wrote:
On September 11 2012 08:42 Iodem wrote:
Looks sweet.

I'm curious how much money will be in the prize pool though. Will it be comparable to Valve's money dump into The International?


Poor every esports company ever, now any effort they make will be compared to Riot and Valve's incredible prize pools.

Seems like an okay format though, shades of MSL. Still not quite sure I understand why every tournament organizer is in love with formats that sound super complex when you try to explain them. Probably should be picture-only descriptions in the future.


Riot is making more money from in-game shops that blizzard ever made of Sc2 nad BW , i think its sound stupid , but MABY Riot in making more money from in-game shop that blizzard from WoW.

Same for Dota 2 game is in beta stage so they wanna promote IT BIG , to make more player come from LoL , and Dota 2 have in-game shop to..

We never gonna see that big prize money in sc2 , because there will be NO in-game shop. Its a shame because i love bw/sc2 more that any moba game ( love dota <3 ) , but its still biznes


No game in the world has over the spand of time, had a contribution margin that can even come CLOSE to WoW, the game has pretty much fed the entire company. In terms of money, LoL and Dota 2 are babies next to the huge giant that is WoW. And due to the development in the market, we might not see a game ever, or atleast for very long time to have same financial succes as WoW, since subscription models doesn't work very well anymore.

Sc2 doesn't need huge prize pools, for the players themself it's still better in sc2. You are 5 people to split the money in other games, and they only have 1 tournament each year with a huge prize pool, others are similar to sc2, in total, + in those huge tournament, you can bet your ass that the teams will take a lot of the money as well.
Hell, it's about time
markrevival
Profile Joined January 2012
United States222 Posts
September 11 2012 20:30 GMT
#57
On September 11 2012 09:01 Pinski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 08:42 Iodem wrote:
Looks sweet.

I'm curious how much money will be in the prize pool though. Will it be comparable to Valve's money dump into The International?


Asia: $127,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals(9), and Asia Finals(32).
Europe: $190,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals(9), and Europe Finals(32).
North America: $120,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals(9), and North America Finals(32).
Oceania: $30,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals(2), and Oceania Finals(8).
South America: $45,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals (3) and South America Finals(16).

Total of $512,000 in prize pool, with the WCS World Finals prize pool still to be announced.

While not as large as Valve's $1.6 million, it's still nothing to laugh at.
besides not including the world finals prize pool, it also doesn't seem to include all the national tournament prize pools. $512K is only the continental prize pools. The national qualifiers(28 tournaments though a few without prize pools) can easily have topped 200,000. Added on top of the yet to be announced World Championship, and all the expenses paid, Blizzard will have easily topped $1 Million
xHQx
Profile Joined August 2012
Russian Federation601 Posts
September 11 2012 20:55 GMT
#58
On September 11 2012 09:01 Pinski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 08:42 Iodem wrote:
Looks sweet.

I'm curious how much money will be in the prize pool though. Will it be comparable to Valve's money dump into The International?


Asia: $127,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals(9), and Asia Finals(32).
Europe: $190,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals(9), and Europe Finals(32).
North America: $120,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals(9), and North America Finals(32).
Oceania: $30,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals(2), and Oceania Finals(8).
South America: $45,000 and all trips paid to WCS World Finals (3) and South America Finals(16).

Total of $512,000 in prize pool, with the WCS World Finals prize pool still to be announced.

While not as large as Valve's $1.6 million, it's still nothing to laugh at.

but it's prizepool for 1 man game, not for 5 man. So it's actually better. Not to say about world finals
Pretty sweet
also <3 the format
are you evolving?
MrF
Profile Joined October 2011
United States320 Posts
September 12 2012 00:03 GMT
#59
Blizzard should just ball out and give the world championship a 5 million dollar prize, half to the winner and the rest split up for the rest, would be so epic. Not gonna happen tho...
HunterXHunter is awesome
chris5180
Profile Joined July 2012
198 Posts
September 12 2012 00:51 GMT
#60
love the format can't wait to watch it!
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