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Hey guys.
How about we drop the conversation regarding her gender and the signing? How does it affect you? Is this really anything new? What are you going to accomplish by attempting to tear her down? The hate/jealously going on here is embarrassing actually.
Christ. Some of you need to grow up. Any discussion on the subject after this post will result in a mandatory temp ban.
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good luck ailuj, damn some of these posts are do disgusting, especially those directed at her gender.
Grow the hell up, you guys must think its super cool to attack her gender
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lol does anyone have the vod of her vs losira at mlg?
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GL Ailuj. I have watched your stream a few times and you are improving quite well. Hopefully this will help improve your game even more.
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Ok, like, I get that she's on a pro team and all, and that we should be happy for her. But isn't Diamond a bit too low of a rank to be joining pro teams with?
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This looks like a fucking reddit thread. Get over her gender... Gratz!
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On September 10 2012 13:10 TheSwamp wrote:
This looks like a fucking reddit thread. Get over her gender... Gratz!
Not really, in reddit threads these comments get downvoted into oblivion and I have to go to the trouble of opening all the 'comment score below threshold' thingies to have a good laugh at jealous, bitter, lonely little guys.
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its not that they wouldnt sign her if she wasnt a girl, it is most likely that this will get the team most exposure, which seems to be working
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the perfect example of being in the right place and the right time. Good luck in your future endeavors.
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On September 08 2012 04:19 ailuj wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 04:15 Steglich wrote:On September 08 2012 04:08 ailuj wrote:On September 08 2012 03:34 -Kyo- wrote:On September 08 2012 03:30 Serimek wrote:
Why no more on CheckSix ? Probably because it's completely disbanded >.> Gl j gurl, hope you keep practicing hard. Thank you Kyo. Also thanks to the other positive comments on here so far, everyone ♥ I'm sorry to those of you who get so butt-hurt that someone you don't know gets support from a team, in which you don't know the circumstances, and literally does not affect you at all. You know these are people you're talking about, right? Who read your comments? Not sure why many people feel the need to be so hateful towards things that really don't affect them? I do not KNOW the circumstances, but I would have to guess that you were not signed because of your skill or dedication to starcraft 2. And who are you to question my dedication or passion for StarCraft 2?
Now we'll just look at facts, people aren't "butt hurt" it's the same as seeing someone in real life get an underserving job / promotion due to looks / gender people just don't like to see people get free rides for how you look, it's not out of jelousy it's out of other people working for what they get instead of having it handed to them for no reason.
You're dediction and passion? Let's examine you're dedication and passion shall we? Last 1v1 Ailuj played was 7 weeks ago where you played about 10 games, ok ok, 7 weeks? Ah maybe she took a break, was on vacation who knows lets dig further, ok before that it was another 4 weeks before any 1v1's .
I'm not quite sure that's on the same level of dedication and passion of people who typically get PAID to be on a team and that's why people would like to express opinions on this topic, not simply because they are "butt hurt".
Me myself personally, If I were on a team simply for my looks which from the context of all posts on this thread seems to be the clear cut reason of the signing here, I would be embarrassed to pretend it was for reason other than that especially claiming its for "dedication and passion".
My take on this thread, remember people have opinions which usually get discussed in forum threads, if you didn't want a discussion and to see people's opinions on the signing, why make a thread about it?
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On September 10 2012 14:10 Milkbag wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 04:19 ailuj wrote:On September 08 2012 04:15 Steglich wrote:On September 08 2012 04:08 ailuj wrote:On September 08 2012 03:34 -Kyo- wrote:On September 08 2012 03:30 Serimek wrote:
Why no more on CheckSix ? Probably because it's completely disbanded >.> Gl j gurl, hope you keep practicing hard. Thank you Kyo. Also thanks to the other positive comments on here so far, everyone ♥ I'm sorry to those of you who get so butt-hurt that someone you don't know gets support from a team, in which you don't know the circumstances, and literally does not affect you at all. You know these are people you're talking about, right? Who read your comments? Not sure why many people feel the need to be so hateful towards things that really don't affect them? I do not KNOW the circumstances, but I would have to guess that you were not signed because of your skill or dedication to starcraft 2. And who are you to question my dedication or passion for StarCraft 2? Now we'll just look at facts, people aren't "butt hurt" it's the same as seeing someone in real life get an underserving job / promotion due to looks / gender people just don't like to see people get free rides for how you look, it's not out of jelousy it's out of other people working for what they get instead of having it handed to them for no reason. You're dediction and passion? Let's examine you're dedication and passion shall we? Last 1v1 Ailuj played was 7 weeks ago where you played about 10 games, ok ok, 7 weeks? Ah maybe she took a break, was on vacation who knows lets dig further, ok before that it was another 4 weeks before any 1v1's . I'm not quite sure that's on the same level of dedication and passion of people who typically get PAID to be on a team and that's why people would like to express opinions on this topic, not simply because they are "butt hurt". Me myself personally, If I were on a team simply for my looks which from the context of all posts on this thread seems to be the clear cut reason of the signing here, I would be embarrassed to pretend it was for reason other than that especially claiming its for "dedication and passion". My take on this thread, remember people have opinions which usually get discussed in forum threads, if you didn't want a discussion and to see people's opinions on the signing, why make a thread about it?
You are really looking into this way too much. Calm down man. Congrats on the team, btw.
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On September 10 2012 14:14 Contagious wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 14:10 Milkbag wrote:On September 08 2012 04:19 ailuj wrote:On September 08 2012 04:15 Steglich wrote:On September 08 2012 04:08 ailuj wrote:On September 08 2012 03:34 -Kyo- wrote:On September 08 2012 03:30 Serimek wrote:
Why no more on CheckSix ? Probably because it's completely disbanded >.> Gl j gurl, hope you keep practicing hard. Thank you Kyo. Also thanks to the other positive comments on here so far, everyone ♥ I'm sorry to those of you who get so butt-hurt that someone you don't know gets support from a team, in which you don't know the circumstances, and literally does not affect you at all. You know these are people you're talking about, right? Who read your comments? Not sure why many people feel the need to be so hateful towards things that really don't affect them? I do not KNOW the circumstances, but I would have to guess that you were not signed because of your skill or dedication to starcraft 2. And who are you to question my dedication or passion for StarCraft 2? Now we'll just look at facts, people aren't "butt hurt" it's the same as seeing someone in real life get an underserving job / promotion due to looks / gender people just don't like to see people get free rides for how you look, it's not out of jelousy it's out of other people working for what they get instead of having it handed to them for no reason. You're dediction and passion? Let's examine you're dedication and passion shall we? Last 1v1 Ailuj played was 7 weeks ago where you played about 10 games, ok ok, 7 weeks? Ah maybe she took a break, was on vacation who knows lets dig further, ok before that it was another 4 weeks before any 1v1's . I'm not quite sure that's on the same level of dedication and passion of people who typically get PAID to be on a team and that's why people would like to express opinions on this topic, not simply because they are "butt hurt". Me myself personally, If I were on a team simply for my looks which from the context of all posts on this thread seems to be the clear cut reason of the signing here, I would be embarrassed to pretend it was for reason other than that especially claiming its for "dedication and passion". My take on this thread, remember people have opinions which usually get discussed in forum threads, if you didn't want a discussion and to see people's opinions on the signing, why make a thread about it? You are really looking into this way too much. Calm down man. Congrats on the team, btw.
It literally takes 2 minutes to login and see that information on battlenet with less than 5 clicks of a mouse, such effort. I appreciate your detailed discussion on this ongoing topic.
User was banned for this post.
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On September 10 2012 14:14 Contagious wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 14:10 Milkbag wrote:On September 08 2012 04:19 ailuj wrote:On September 08 2012 04:15 Steglich wrote:On September 08 2012 04:08 ailuj wrote:On September 08 2012 03:34 -Kyo- wrote:On September 08 2012 03:30 Serimek wrote:
Why no more on CheckSix ? Probably because it's completely disbanded >.> Gl j gurl, hope you keep practicing hard. Thank you Kyo. Also thanks to the other positive comments on here so far, everyone ♥ I'm sorry to those of you who get so butt-hurt that someone you don't know gets support from a team, in which you don't know the circumstances, and literally does not affect you at all. You know these are people you're talking about, right? Who read your comments? Not sure why many people feel the need to be so hateful towards things that really don't affect them? I do not KNOW the circumstances, but I would have to guess that you were not signed because of your skill or dedication to starcraft 2. And who are you to question my dedication or passion for StarCraft 2? Now we'll just look at facts, people aren't "butt hurt" it's the same as seeing someone in real life get an underserving job / promotion due to looks / gender people just don't like to see people get free rides for how you look, it's not out of jelousy it's out of other people working for what they get instead of having it handed to them for no reason. You're dediction and passion? Let's examine you're dedication and passion shall we? Last 1v1 Ailuj played was 7 weeks ago where you played about 10 games, ok ok, 7 weeks? Ah maybe she took a break, was on vacation who knows lets dig further, ok before that it was another 4 weeks before any 1v1's . I'm not quite sure that's on the same level of dedication and passion of people who typically get PAID to be on a team and that's why people would like to express opinions on this topic, not simply because they are "butt hurt". Me myself personally, If I were on a team simply for my looks which from the context of all posts on this thread seems to be the clear cut reason of the signing here, I would be embarrassed to pretend it was for reason other than that especially claiming its for "dedication and passion". My take on this thread, remember people have opinions which usually get discussed in forum threads, if you didn't want a discussion and to see people's opinions on the signing, why make a thread about it? You are really looking into this way too much. Calm down man. Congrats on the team, btw.
Yeah, how dare someone do research and back up their argument with facts?
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Mods: are there any threads on TL that ARE a good place for a respectful discussion around gender in SC2? This doesn't seem like the place, but I'm not sure where else would be better.
Also, congrats Julia.
Edit: OK, I guess I should be clear. I do see a couple threads related to the issue but nothing from 2012. Should we revive an old thread for further discussion?
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On September 10 2012 14:21 Milkbag wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 14:14 Contagious wrote:On September 10 2012 14:10 Milkbag wrote:On September 08 2012 04:19 ailuj wrote:On September 08 2012 04:15 Steglich wrote:On September 08 2012 04:08 ailuj wrote:On September 08 2012 03:34 -Kyo- wrote:On September 08 2012 03:30 Serimek wrote:
Why no more on CheckSix ? Probably because it's completely disbanded >.> Gl j gurl, hope you keep practicing hard. Thank you Kyo. Also thanks to the other positive comments on here so far, everyone ♥ I'm sorry to those of you who get so butt-hurt that someone you don't know gets support from a team, in which you don't know the circumstances, and literally does not affect you at all. You know these are people you're talking about, right? Who read your comments? Not sure why many people feel the need to be so hateful towards things that really don't affect them? I do not KNOW the circumstances, but I would have to guess that you were not signed because of your skill or dedication to starcraft 2. And who are you to question my dedication or passion for StarCraft 2? Now we'll just look at facts, people aren't "butt hurt" it's the same as seeing someone in real life get an underserving job / promotion due to looks / gender people just don't like to see people get free rides for how you look, it's not out of jelousy it's out of other people working for what they get instead of having it handed to them for no reason. You're dediction and passion? Let's examine you're dedication and passion shall we? Last 1v1 Ailuj played was 7 weeks ago where you played about 10 games, ok ok, 7 weeks? Ah maybe she took a break, was on vacation who knows lets dig further, ok before that it was another 4 weeks before any 1v1's . I'm not quite sure that's on the same level of dedication and passion of people who typically get PAID to be on a team and that's why people would like to express opinions on this topic, not simply because they are "butt hurt". Me myself personally, If I were on a team simply for my looks which from the context of all posts on this thread seems to be the clear cut reason of the signing here, I would be embarrassed to pretend it was for reason other than that especially claiming its for "dedication and passion". My take on this thread, remember people have opinions which usually get discussed in forum threads, if you didn't want a discussion and to see people's opinions on the signing, why make a thread about it? You are really looking into this way too much. Calm down man. Congrats on the team, btw. It literally takes 2 minutes to login and see that information on battlenet with less than 5 clicks of a mouse, such effort. I appreciate your detailed discussion on this ongoing topic.
I'm gonna do you a favor and tell you something important in hopes that you stop wasting your time arguing over this : life is not fair, there's nothing you can do about it, it's the team's decision, now move along.
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On September 10 2012 14:26 absolutionsc wrote:
Mods: are there any threads on TL that ARE a good place for a respectful discussion around gender in SC2? This doesn't seem like the place, but I'm not sure where else would be better.
Also, congrats Julia.
Edit: OK, I guess I should be clear. I do see a couple threads related to the issue but nothing from 2012. Should we revive an old thread for further discussion?
Also, this. Like, if we're not allowed to discuss important and relevant player attributes, what's the point of having a thread in the first place? Sure, some people are dicks. But the truth is that her Gender and attractiveness is quite relevant, given that they seem the major reason for her signing. Would it be weird to talk about Jrecco's TSL play, since that's why he got signed? Essentially it's the same thing.
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On September 10 2012 14:31 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 14:21 Milkbag wrote:On September 10 2012 14:14 Contagious wrote:On September 10 2012 14:10 Milkbag wrote:On September 08 2012 04:19 ailuj wrote:On September 08 2012 04:15 Steglich wrote:On September 08 2012 04:08 ailuj wrote:On September 08 2012 03:34 -Kyo- wrote:On September 08 2012 03:30 Serimek wrote:
Why no more on CheckSix ? Probably because it's completely disbanded >.> Gl j gurl, hope you keep practicing hard. Thank you Kyo. Also thanks to the other positive comments on here so far, everyone ♥ I'm sorry to those of you who get so butt-hurt that someone you don't know gets support from a team, in which you don't know the circumstances, and literally does not affect you at all. You know these are people you're talking about, right? Who read your comments? Not sure why many people feel the need to be so hateful towards things that really don't affect them? I do not KNOW the circumstances, but I would have to guess that you were not signed because of your skill or dedication to starcraft 2. And who are you to question my dedication or passion for StarCraft 2? Now we'll just look at facts, people aren't "butt hurt" it's the same as seeing someone in real life get an underserving job / promotion due to looks / gender people just don't like to see people get free rides for how you look, it's not out of jelousy it's out of other people working for what they get instead of having it handed to them for no reason. You're dediction and passion? Let's examine you're dedication and passion shall we? Last 1v1 Ailuj played was 7 weeks ago where you played about 10 games, ok ok, 7 weeks? Ah maybe she took a break, was on vacation who knows lets dig further, ok before that it was another 4 weeks before any 1v1's . I'm not quite sure that's on the same level of dedication and passion of people who typically get PAID to be on a team and that's why people would like to express opinions on this topic, not simply because they are "butt hurt". Me myself personally, If I were on a team simply for my looks which from the context of all posts on this thread seems to be the clear cut reason of the signing here, I would be embarrassed to pretend it was for reason other than that especially claiming its for "dedication and passion". My take on this thread, remember people have opinions which usually get discussed in forum threads, if you didn't want a discussion and to see people's opinions on the signing, why make a thread about it? You are really looking into this way too much. Calm down man. Congrats on the team, btw. It literally takes 2 minutes to login and see that information on battlenet with less than 5 clicks of a mouse, such effort. I appreciate your detailed discussion on this ongoing topic. I'm gonna do you a favor and tell you something important in hopes that you stop wasting your time arguing over this : life is not fair, there's nothing you can do about it, it's the team's decision, now move along.
That's the worst logic ever. Why are you wasting your time telling him not to waste his? Seems a little odd there bud.
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On September 08 2012 04:15 Steglich wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 04:08 ailuj wrote:On September 08 2012 03:34 -Kyo- wrote:On September 08 2012 03:30 Serimek wrote:
Why no more on CheckSix ? Probably because it's completely disbanded >.> Gl j gurl, hope you keep practicing hard. Thank you Kyo. Also thanks to the other positive comments on here so far, everyone ♥ I'm sorry to those of you who get so butt-hurt that someone you don't know gets support from a team, in which you don't know the circumstances, and literally does not affect you at all. You know these are people you're talking about, right? Who read your comments? Not sure why many people feel the need to be so hateful towards things that really don't affect them? I do not KNOW the circumstances, but I would have to guess that you were not signed because of your skill or dedication to starcraft 2. This is an open board, we are allowed to express our opinions as long as we follow the rules.
Which you ditttn, and you got a warn/temp-ban for it...
Anyways, congratulations to her, while this turning into a sexist thread is sad... I do hope she reads between the lines..."You are pretty"... aaaand that's probably all she can get out of this thread...Hope she can show some good results and shut people up.
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On September 10 2012 14:33 Rossen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 04:15 Steglich wrote:On September 08 2012 04:08 ailuj wrote:On September 08 2012 03:34 -Kyo- wrote:On September 08 2012 03:30 Serimek wrote:
Why no more on CheckSix ? Probably because it's completely disbanded >.> Gl j gurl, hope you keep practicing hard. Thank you Kyo. Also thanks to the other positive comments on here so far, everyone ♥ I'm sorry to those of you who get so butt-hurt that someone you don't know gets support from a team, in which you don't know the circumstances, and literally does not affect you at all. You know these are people you're talking about, right? Who read your comments? Not sure why many people feel the need to be so hateful towards things that really don't affect them? I do not KNOW the circumstances, but I would have to guess that you were not signed because of your skill or dedication to starcraft 2. This is an open board, we are allowed to express our opinions as long as we follow the rules. Which you ditttn, and you got a warn/temp-ban for it... Anyways, congratulations to her, while this turning into a sexist thread is sad... I do hope she reads between the lines..."You are pretty"... aaaand that's probably all she can get out of this thread...Hope she can show some good results and shut people up.
It's more sexist to sign a player solely on the basis of looks and gender than it is to argue that a players signing should be based on merit.
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On September 10 2012 14:33 Zennith wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 14:31 IshinShishi wrote:On September 10 2012 14:21 Milkbag wrote:On September 10 2012 14:14 Contagious wrote:On September 10 2012 14:10 Milkbag wrote:On September 08 2012 04:19 ailuj wrote:On September 08 2012 04:15 Steglich wrote:On September 08 2012 04:08 ailuj wrote:On September 08 2012 03:34 -Kyo- wrote:On September 08 2012 03:30 Serimek wrote:
Why no more on CheckSix ? Probably because it's completely disbanded >.> Gl j gurl, hope you keep practicing hard. Thank you Kyo. Also thanks to the other positive comments on here so far, everyone ♥ I'm sorry to those of you who get so butt-hurt that someone you don't know gets support from a team, in which you don't know the circumstances, and literally does not affect you at all. You know these are people you're talking about, right? Who read your comments? Not sure why many people feel the need to be so hateful towards things that really don't affect them? I do not KNOW the circumstances, but I would have to guess that you were not signed because of your skill or dedication to starcraft 2. And who are you to question my dedication or passion for StarCraft 2? Now we'll just look at facts, people aren't "butt hurt" it's the same as seeing someone in real life get an underserving job / promotion due to looks / gender people just don't like to see people get free rides for how you look, it's not out of jelousy it's out of other people working for what they get instead of having it handed to them for no reason. You're dediction and passion? Let's examine you're dedication and passion shall we? Last 1v1 Ailuj played was 7 weeks ago where you played about 10 games, ok ok, 7 weeks? Ah maybe she took a break, was on vacation who knows lets dig further, ok before that it was another 4 weeks before any 1v1's . I'm not quite sure that's on the same level of dedication and passion of people who typically get PAID to be on a team and that's why people would like to express opinions on this topic, not simply because they are "butt hurt". Me myself personally, If I were on a team simply for my looks which from the context of all posts on this thread seems to be the clear cut reason of the signing here, I would be embarrassed to pretend it was for reason other than that especially claiming its for "dedication and passion". My take on this thread, remember people have opinions which usually get discussed in forum threads, if you didn't want a discussion and to see people's opinions on the signing, why make a thread about it? You are really looking into this way too much. Calm down man. Congrats on the team, btw. It literally takes 2 minutes to login and see that information on battlenet with less than 5 clicks of a mouse, such effort. I appreciate your detailed discussion on this ongoing topic. I'm gonna do you a favor and tell you something important in hopes that you stop wasting your time arguing over this : life is not fair, there's nothing you can do about it, it's the team's decision, now move along. That's the worst logic ever. Why are you wasting your time telling him not to waste his? Seems a little odd there bud.
First of all, I'm certain that I've spent a lot less time than he has on this thread, now, what I am doing is in fact very logical, by telling him to stop I'm trying to avoid further waste of time and pointless discussions, you got that buddy?
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