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On September 01 2012 08:44 Champloo wrote:
I hate how this community works. There are literally at least 1000 teamless players that are better at playing starcraft than her.
I love how this community works. People come in and shit on people for accepting invites to teams which will make them better starcraft players.
Is Maddelisk supposed to turn down the offer money, training, travel and the ability do more of something she likes doing because she had the (mis)fortune of being pretty and a woman?
Its kinda unreasonable to demand that.
Anyways, I wish you lots of luck Maddelisk, I hope you can continue to improve under Quantic.
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On September 01 2012 05:08 Iranon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 04:49 how2TL wrote:
Cool that she's going for a PhD. Strange that she's spending serious time in SC though. Or at least the people doing PhD in math that I know of are usually quite busy with that. Yeah, that's nuts. I'm in the middle of mine, and I have a few hours a week at most to devote to games. As far as I can see she's already got one publication (or is this her thesis?); reading it now. It's pretty cool. Edit: almost forgot... Major props to her.
Agreed - I barely got through mine with no other commitments. It's not the workload so much as the motivation - you have to be a real self-starter, as you are all but guaranteed to hit some serious roadblocks along the way, and it takes a lot of willpower to push through them. Progamers might actually be good at that side of it as they are no strangers to mental discipline, but I would think there would definitely be times when focusing on SC2 seemed way more appealing than continuing to beat your head against a wall.
Anyway, all the best to her on both the gaming career and study fronts.
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On September 01 2012 05:08 Iranon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 04:49 how2TL wrote:
Cool that she's going for a PhD. Strange that she's spending serious time in SC though. Or at least the people doing PhD in math that I know of are usually quite busy with that. Yeah, that's nuts. I'm in the middle of mine, and I have a few hours a week at most to devote to games. As far as I can see she's already got one publication (or is this her thesis?); reading it now. It's pretty cool. Edit: almost forgot... Major props to her.
Looks like a master's thesis, too long for a journal publication (though my background is biology, so i guess maths could be different).
Since Naniwa left Quantic I guess that freed up quite a bit of cash for recruiting new players  .
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I like her, good influence on the Swedish Sc2 community. Good luck!
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On September 01 2012 09:10 Kerotan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 08:44 Champloo wrote:
I hate how this community works. There are literally at least 1000 teamless players that are better at playing starcraft than her. I love how this community works. People come in and shit on people for accepting invites to teams which will make them better starcraft players. Is Maddelisk supposed to turn down the offer money, training, travel and the ability do more of something she likes doing because she had the (mis)fortune of being pretty and a woman? Its kinda unreasonable to demand that. Anyways, I wish you lots of luck Maddelisk, I hope you can continue to improve under Quantic.
Has anybody come in and shit on her personally for accepting the invite? I for one wished her luck in her linkup with Quantic!
She wouldn't have been picked up if she wasn't an attractive girl, it's not misogynist to claim this at all. In fact I'd argue that it's more misogynistic to advocate that girls be given opportunities not open to their male equivalents. Especially given she is doing a PhD, you would have thought that would potentially cramp her potential to improve.
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is this Maddelisk from BW? i recall her name playing BW also, perhaps i'm wrong here dno.
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On September 01 2012 05:19 KoDo wrote:
seems like Quantic barely used Flo in anything important...and as far as I know she hasn't gotten a lot better. So they sign another female to make another splash for 'sex-appeal?' Shoulda just went with that aliuj girl lol
Are you kidding?.. Flo has gotten much better, especially since moving into the training facility. I witnessed her play at MLG last weekend, she's really grown a lot as a player.
Anyways, on topic. I say on Twitter, I say here. Welcome to the family, yo. :D
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On September 01 2012 12:14 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 09:10 Kerotan wrote:On September 01 2012 08:44 Champloo wrote:
I hate how this community works. There are literally at least 1000 teamless players that are better at playing starcraft than her. I love how this community works. People come in and shit on people for accepting invites to teams which will make them better starcraft players. Is Maddelisk supposed to turn down the offer money, training, travel and the ability do more of something she likes doing because she had the (mis)fortune of being pretty and a woman? Its kinda unreasonable to demand that. Anyways, I wish you lots of luck Maddelisk, I hope you can continue to improve under Quantic. Has anybody come in and shit on her personally for accepting the invite? I for one wished her luck in her linkup with Quantic! She wouldn't have been picked up if she wasn't an attractive girl, it's not misogynist to claim this at all. In fact I'd argue that it's more misogynistic to advocate that girls be given opportunities not open to their male equivalents. Especially given she is doing a PhD, you would have thought that would potentially cramp her potential to improve.
My point was that you can either be mad at the seemingly unquenchable desire for attractive women by 18-24 males, or angry at maddelisk. That is how I interpreted the original statement that I quoted; either hate Quantic for pandering or something else in the "community".
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Nice job madde, nice job quantic! ^^
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Nice to see the best caster on the planet get to join a team, Maddelisk fighting!
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On September 01 2012 06:02 teddyoojo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 05:56 kochujang wrote:On September 01 2012 05:50 teddyoojo wrote:
its so sad that more than mediocre players get picked up solely in the fact they have vaginas This statement is untrue. how come. u think maddelisk is somehow really good? no
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On September 01 2012 12:36 Kerotan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 12:14 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 01 2012 09:10 Kerotan wrote:On September 01 2012 08:44 Champloo wrote:
I hate how this community works. There are literally at least 1000 teamless players that are better at playing starcraft than her. I love how this community works. People come in and shit on people for accepting invites to teams which will make them better starcraft players. Is Maddelisk supposed to turn down the offer money, training, travel and the ability do more of something she likes doing because she had the (mis)fortune of being pretty and a woman? Its kinda unreasonable to demand that. Anyways, I wish you lots of luck Maddelisk, I hope you can continue to improve under Quantic. Has anybody come in and shit on her personally for accepting the invite? I for one wished her luck in her linkup with Quantic! She wouldn't have been picked up if she wasn't an attractive girl, it's not misogynist to claim this at all. In fact I'd argue that it's more misogynistic to advocate that girls be given opportunities not open to their male equivalents. Especially given she is doing a PhD, you would have thought that would potentially cramp her potential to improve. My point was that you can either be mad at the seemingly unquenchable desire for attractive women by 18-24 males, or angry at maddelisk. That is how I interpreted the original statement that I quoted; either hate Quantic for pandering or something else in the "community".
I don't even hate Quantic if it's a move for exposure or whatever, however thus far they haven't really even utilised Flo in this capacity. If you're going to pander, at least give the recipient some exposure.
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Gl for all your endeavours (which seems to be numerous :o)
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How long for people to understand that is not the biggest factor for a player getting signed? Incontrol has a 30% winrate, yet gets thousands of viewers when he streams and is one of the most recognizable people in esports. Machine is in a similar boat, but is pretty famous for his Kingston commercials.
You do understand this is a community of turbo nerds? You could be a chick in diamond and if you aren't obese you're going to get over 100+ viewers doing nothing. Hell, if you're Masters and female that's more rare than male and GM.
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first time i've seen an op about a recruitment like this without 3 pictures included. it actually was the first thing i noticed. and thats a good thing to me =) gl to both madde and quantic!
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grats to Maddelisk! Good luck with Quantic
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Sweden got many good players :o
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On September 01 2012 13:09 xrapture wrote:
How long for people to understand that is not the biggest factor for a player getting signed? Incontrol has a 30% winrate, yet gets thousands of viewers when he streams and is one of the most recognizable people in esports. Machine is in a similar boat, but is pretty famous for his Kingston commercials.
People give incontrol huge amounts of shit too - anyone with results that don't seem to justify their position in the scene gets hit.
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What is this superhuman being? :O PhD in Math, benchpressing and professional gaming. 
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