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sLivko leaves RoX.KIS - Page 7

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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
August 25 2012 10:09 GMT
#121
Edited the link into the OP, good luck to sLivko in his new team!
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 25 2012 10:14 GMT
#122
Good luck to sLivko with his new team!
Moderatorlickypiddy
peia
Profile Joined May 2011
Austria51 Posts
August 25 2012 10:20 GMT
#123
slivko is definetely one of the best foreign zergs with his recent iem performance, would love to see him at mlg usw.
GL to him
MistSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden583 Posts
August 25 2012 11:33 GMT
#124
slivko is so underrated, always thought he was one of thos RoXKiS guys tho. good luck wherever you go!
Maru, TY, Clem <3
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
August 25 2012 12:08 GMT
#125
On August 25 2012 18:11 eSahara.teSt wrote:
http://www.virtuspro.org/news/StarCraft2/Vstrechayte-VPBenQsLivko/
Slivko in Virtus Pro

To those who can't read russian: in his comment Slivko says that he was happy to be in RoxKis, he got a lot of support from them and he is thankful for that, but it's a professional sport and he got a better offer from VirtusPro.

Basically, that's it, no need to overreact.

Also, his (new?) twitter: http://twitter.com/VPBenQsLivko
As I understood it he will continue streaming.(was he? '...')
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
August 25 2012 12:09 GMT
#126
On August 25 2012 20:33 eXeprOxy wrote:
slivko is so underrated, always thought he was one of thos RoXKiS guys tho. good luck wherever you go!


yeah same here. I think that's because he was in RoX when he played BW
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
August 25 2012 12:27 GMT
#127
On August 25 2012 16:58 Al Bundy wrote:
Show nested quote +
Sad to say, but we are forced to say goodbye to Artem. There are many reasons for this, but main - the player wants to receive more [money], without working with the community. We were ready to make better terms, only if he would regularly stream and promote partners [sponsors]; but for Artem (and a whole category of players) want to just play and receive a growing salary, and travel to all foreign tournaments. Sadly, for the team and it's partners there is no financial gain in this.

Working with the community = streaming on twitch.tv?

This is getting a bit ridiculous, so I'll give my opinion: Fuck streaming. Progamers streaming some pointless ladder games seem like a total waste of time to me. That time would definitely be better spent doing actual training, you know, the stuff that koreans do in order to own everyone else (and proceed to acquire the currency that Roxkis seems to crave)


Except those Koreans stream their ladder games pretty often, MC/Nestea/MVP/MKP/DRG/etc. have all streamed, MKP used to do it pretty regularly. And RoxKis spends money to fly him everywhere, spends money to promote him, etc. If he can't make that a mutually beneficial deal it's not worth it for them to keep him. It didn't come across as unprofessional, they just stated why they couldn't come to an agreement; they have other players to care for and slivko couldn't make himself worth the extra money to roxkis.

The whole "Yeah, we're still best friends. I hope everyone does well xD." statements are both boring and untrue, I don't understand how lying about the situation is any more professional than being honest. They didn't slander his name at all, nor did it make them look any worse.
NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
nemonic
Profile Joined November 2011
132 Posts
August 25 2012 12:40 GMT
#128
Seems like someone at RoXKIS is pretty pissed.

I mean ... there's nothing wrong about being honest in official statements as to why players leave your team. But this kinda seems to be more like an unelaborated rant by a pissed-off management. Not indicative of a good team atmosphere at all ...
Kompicek
Profile Joined May 2008
Czech Republic245 Posts
August 25 2012 13:43 GMT
#129
On August 25 2012 21:40 .syd. wrote:
Seems like someone at RoXKIS is pretty pissed.

I mean ... there's nothing wrong about being honest in official statements as to why players leave your team. But this kinda seems to be more like an unelaborated rant by a pissed-off management. Not indicative of a good team atmosphere at all ...

Yes i got the exactly the same feeling here, there was no need to go that far.
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
August 25 2012 13:52 GMT
#130
so a Player doesnt like the community and wants more money...thats okay...but i will not root for him.
I enjoy players who like to interact with the community.
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
August 25 2012 13:58 GMT
#131
On August 25 2012 22:52 cutler wrote:
so a Player doesnt like the community and wants more money...thats okay...but i will not root for him.
I enjoy players who like to interact with the community.

How did you come to that genius conclusion?
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
Bizeheryer
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany307 Posts
August 25 2012 14:00 GMT
#132
On August 25 2012 08:08 xPliCt wrote:
Some korean team should pick him up to solve this whole KESPA issue...



Niahaha!

The Russian hitman sLivko.

cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
August 25 2012 14:01 GMT
#133
read first post...he just want to play the game...no stream etc...just more money
nemonic
Profile Joined November 2011
132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 14:16:54
August 25 2012 14:13 GMT
#134
On August 25 2012 23:01 cutler wrote:
read first post...he just want to play the game...no stream etc...just more money


A lot of progamers that stream actually don't do it for the community but simply for the money, because it's even more lucrative than price money and you receive your money directly from twitch/own3d. So your opinion makes no sense in that regard.
razy
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation899 Posts
August 25 2012 14:16 GMT
#135
On August 25 2012 21:09 SilSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 20:33 eXeprOxy wrote:
slivko is so underrated, always thought he was one of thos RoXKiS guys tho. good luck wherever you go!


yeah same here. I think that's because he was in RoX when he played BW


He wasn't. Also not even sure if he played BW cause i've never heard about him before SC2 although i followed the scene quite closely
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
August 25 2012 14:16 GMT
#136
On August 25 2012 23:13 .syd. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 23:01 cutler wrote:
read first post...he just want to play the game...no stream etc...just more money


A lot of progamers that stream actually don't do it for the community but simply for the money, because it's even more lucrative than price money and you receive your money directly from twitch/own3d. So you're opinion makes no sense in that regard.


didnt know that it is that lucrative...is there any info regarding streaming income?
nemonic
Profile Joined November 2011
132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 14:29:17
August 25 2012 14:23 GMT
#137
On August 25 2012 23:16 cutler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 23:13 .syd. wrote:
On August 25 2012 23:01 cutler wrote:
read first post...he just want to play the game...no stream etc...just more money


A lot of progamers that stream actually don't do it for the community but simply for the money, because it's even more lucrative than price money and you receive your money directly from twitch/own3d. So you're opinion makes no sense in that regard.


didnt know that it is that lucrative...is there any info regarding streaming income?


for example, there's an older post from destiny (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218714&currentpage=13#250). there are also newer numbers floating around here in some threads, can't find them right now though. just search for them yourself.
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
August 25 2012 15:09 GMT
#138
I uh... Don't really see how VP can give him more money than RoX.KIS..
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
August 25 2012 15:37 GMT
#139
Good luck to massive Slivko!
I got five reasons for you to shut up
eSahara.teSt
Profile Joined November 2011
Russian Federation14 Posts
August 25 2012 15:42 GMT
#140
From manager VP:
I'm glad that we are finally able to reinforce the ranks of zergs, which have been otherwise lacking for quite some time. Especially since this zerg has established a reputation as one of the best players in the CIS area. I see it as an important move for our organization, and I'm sure that Artem will estimate the opportunities of our project at their true worth, as well as the standards of relations among the fellow players. I think that this transfer will give rise to more successful and progressive activity in our team. And numerous fans of the imba race will soon be able to watch Slivko in action on his streams.

From slivko:
I was happy to be in RoX, to me they were not simply a team, but also good friends who would always help and support. I'm sincerely grateful to them for all of this. But this is professional sport; Virtus Pro offered me better terms and prospects, and I believe it to be a significant step forward to me. Don't forget to follow me on twitter.com/VPBenQSlivko and watch my FP streams.
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