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Sage joins Alt-Tab.Gaming !

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Alt-Tab.GamingTV
Profile Joined February 2012
France16 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 01:16:20
August 09 2012 22:10 GMT
#1
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Alt-Tab.Gaming is very proud and happy to announce an amazing player for its StarCraft II professional Line-Up : Kyung Cheol "Sage" Woo

Kyung Cheol "Sage" Woo does not need to be presented so we shall let him do the work for us :

"Hi ! I am Kyung Cheol "Sage" Woo. If you follow me, you know that I've been experiencing a slump these last days. Until recently, I couldn't find in me the motivation to keep going, strongly, and I felt like I've lost my goals. So I've fallen into what feels like blandness. I was thinking about a new start for a long time. It's time to find new ways to enjoy the game and the competition. Going overseas, playing in overcrowded tournaments... So I contacted Alt-Tab.Gaming and here I am ! I am really excited to go to Europe and I am very thankfull for my new team and their support. My courage and will are coming strongly !
Please cheer for me ! Thanks !
"


And the Alt-Tab.Gaming staff is at least as excited as Sage. We sincerely hope that he finds his place in our team and we will work hard to make it so.

Most of you already know Sage as the team captain of New Star HoSeo and for his great performance in Starcraft 2. One year ago he performed an all kill of team fOu in GSTL season 1 which is quite funny considereing he only played 4 matches. He showed the same performance during IPL Team Arena Challenge #2, taking down StarTale all by himself and ending the tournament with 9-2 record. Sage also did a great run in GSL October Code A and fell one spot away from Code S. Alt-Tab.Gaming is very happy to support such a great player and will be proactive to allow him to show you what he is made of.

The new Alt-Tab.Gaming player will be provided accommodation within the Ministry of Win Gaming House. The MoW and Alt-Tab.Gaming have worked together the last few weeks on several events such as the coming of ATǂSonG and Kevin "illu" Vandin in their gaming house as well as their new tournament Battle at Ministry of Win: get outPlayed. It was only natural that such an agreement was made and it can only be good for the future of both parties !

Kevin "illu" Vandini, general manager :

"My first fight under my new colors is a victory ! I am really pleased and honored to announce that Sage is going to join our team. After very long negotiations, Sage has decided to leave his former team in order to participate in European events. We are really honored by his decision and the trust he put in our team. It will lead us to expand our team more and more. He will travel to Europe very soon and join the Ministry of Win Gaming House in Poland. It will give him the opportunity to train very seriously and from there I will be able to help him and take care of him during his trip to and through Europe. He is going to have the opportunity to attend the biggest events in Europe and to show us his true talent. I am glad to welcome you in our team Sage !"


Jérémy Lopes, Alt-Tab Gaming CEO :

"Since quite a long time, we took the decision to turn our attention to the international scene, not by excess of confidence or precipitation but because we believe that our work in the french scene is starting to show results. We actually succeeded to grow from little thing and gather a StarCraft 2 team full of potential of which we are very happy. Because of that and the general development of Alt-Tab.Gaming, we are now in position, humanly and financially to test our luck outside of our frontiers.

Sage was looking for a way to continue his career in Europe and after much discussion, we are really proud to announce that he is joining Alt-Tab.Gaming.
"



Alt-Tab.Gaming new professional Line-up :

ATǂSage
ATǂSonG
ATǂNeOAnGeL
ATǂCENSURE
ATǂToto
ATǂMlord
ATǂElroye
ATǂKami
ATǂMesh

You can find more about Alt-Tab.Gaming and what we do on our WebTV thread, our SC2 WebTV, our Website and our Facebook !

Until next time,

GL & HF !
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indxrje
Profile Joined May 2012
227 Posts
August 09 2012 22:13 GMT
#2
nice pickup ! grats
hihi
ToasteR_
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada551 Posts
August 09 2012 22:13 GMT
#3
Wow did not see this coming, nice pick up
Liveon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands1083 Posts
August 09 2012 22:18 GMT
#4
Congrats on the pickup, hope that Sage is what you expect and that you are what he expects
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Megakenny
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada829 Posts
August 09 2012 22:25 GMT
#5
Wasn't Sage the team Capitan of NSH? I guess San the Man has to step up now.
ATBison
Profile Joined June 2012
France3 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 15:40:10
August 09 2012 22:25 GMT
#6
Hi, Welcome, I'm so excited to shoutcast your games !
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
August 09 2012 22:31 GMT
#7
And it's another stone to the magnificent monument dedicated to french teams who crashed after a year.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 09 2012 22:36 GMT
#8
Haha this is the third thread now but at least this one is from the official AltTab TL account. Congrats again on the pick up of Sage and good luck to him and his new team!
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BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
August 09 2012 22:38 GMT
#9
This does seem quite strange, I do hope it works out for him.
k3n705
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada134 Posts
August 09 2012 22:49 GMT
#10
AT must have offered him one hell of a deal; good luck to both parties.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
August 09 2012 22:50 GMT
#11
It's good for Sage, but bad for NSHoSeo. They've lost both Sting and Sage in a matter of a few weeks. I hope it's nothing to do with the team's financial situation though. But it would be sad if that were the case.
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Kireak
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden358 Posts
August 09 2012 22:51 GMT
#12
Wonders if sage knows what he is getting into or if its only a "foreigner" team attitude.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 09 2012 22:54 GMT
#13
I'll say it again, bizarre. Best of luck to both parties and I hope Sage enjoys Europe.
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cheeseheadlogic
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States322 Posts
August 09 2012 22:54 GMT
#14
I hope this works out for Sage.

It's always scary to see stories like these where a pro player of Sage's caliber joins an fairly unknown team as this one. Hopefully it was a good offer and they support him well as a player and not just some sort of scam style pick up.
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Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
August 09 2012 22:57 GMT
#15
GL to Sage, great pick up by alt-tab, hope everything works out
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followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1449 Posts
August 09 2012 22:59 GMT
#16
wow nice addition!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 09 2012 23:01 GMT
#17
I wonder if Hoseo is going to recruit any players to fill the void left by Sage and Sting, some new blood on the team would be nice.
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
August 09 2012 23:03 GMT
#18
Sage has so much talent...but I really don't think this won't benifit his skills at all.

Well, I guess good luck, even though I hate this kind of transfers.
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shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
August 09 2012 23:09 GMT
#19
Wow..Hoping to see them in the big leagues :D
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-YounG
Profile Joined June 2012
7 Posts
August 09 2012 23:10 GMT
#20
im seriously pissed at koreans moving outside of korea... it says that he can train hard at their gaming house.. but europe server training is not good enough for the koreans.. omg another person gone from GSL. *sigh* congratz on the pickup but at least let him stay in korea..
BoggieMan
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
520 Posts
August 09 2012 23:12 GMT
#21
lol i have never heard of this team or these players before :O except sage.
just a sign sc2 is a huge esport!
gl sage :D
Galetmonster
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden151 Posts
August 09 2012 23:13 GMT
#22
On August 10 2012 08:10 -YounG wrote:
im seriously pissed at koreans moving outside of korea... it says that he can train hard at their gaming house.. but europe server training is not good enough for the koreans.. omg another person gone from GSL. *sigh* congratz on the pickup but at least let him stay in korea..


Snute, Cytoplasm got their best results after training at MoW but i get where you are at. If i knew korean i would do everything i can helping those who want to get on a foreign team but are not educated
E.L.V.I.S
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium458 Posts
August 09 2012 23:14 GMT
#23
im seriously pissed at koreans moving outside of korea... it says that he can train hard at their gaming house.. but europe server training is not good enough for the koreans.. omg another person gone from GSL. *sigh* congratz on the pickup but at least let him stay in korea..


Yeah I kinda agree, he might be upset about european ladder ^^.
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skyrunner
Profile Joined August 2009
371 Posts
August 09 2012 23:14 GMT
#24
Good for him (i hope at least). I like sage
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 09 2012 23:14 GMT
#25
Seem like NSH is having problem keeping their players.. First Sting, now Sage
GL to him, but I hope NSH stay alive.
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sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
August 09 2012 23:15 GMT
#26
what gaming?

interesting pickup
they must have some money they want to spend xD
I guess they'll send him to some foreign tournaments and that's nice for him, a good chance to prove himself
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chris5180
Profile Joined July 2012
198 Posts
August 09 2012 23:24 GMT
#27
congrats to Sage! good pickup
Childplay
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada263 Posts
August 09 2012 23:24 GMT
#28
what? isnt sage team captain? o.O
VPVanek
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada238 Posts
August 09 2012 23:32 GMT
#29
Goodluck to sage
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 09 2012 23:43 GMT
#30
Well, best of luck Sage.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 09 2012 23:44 GMT
#31
Who you takin' from my hometeam?
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 00:00:30
August 09 2012 23:49 GMT
#32
hope nsh does not go the same way as zenex/ogs
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 09 2012 23:51 GMT
#33
Sage the master of DTs show us your true potential in ALT!
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.Wraath
Profile Joined May 2012
United States262 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 23:57:18
August 09 2012 23:56 GMT
#34
NSH cant keep players outside of Jjakji and San it seems
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
August 10 2012 00:08 GMT
#35
On August 10 2012 08:10 -YounG wrote:
im seriously pissed at koreans moving outside of korea... it says that he can train hard at their gaming house.. but europe server training is not good enough for the koreans.. omg another person gone from GSL. *sigh* congratz on the pickup but at least let him stay in korea..


Agree so much! PuMa was(apparently) one of the most requested practice partners in BW and then he got picked up by EG. In that GSTL game(granted it was just one game!) he looked quite pathetic. I remember that GSTL game where he beat BbongBbong, people thought this kid looks good. Then he beat MarineKing, who just got Ro4 in Super Tournament and then beat Polt, the champion of the super tournament! I think that he would have gone much farther had he stayed in Korea.
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Demizzle
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia397 Posts
August 10 2012 00:13 GMT
#36
Wait wtf when did he leave HoSeo? :/
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
August 10 2012 00:17 GMT
#37
He hasn't done anything for a while but I definitely look forward to his play is HotS.
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TheRealFluid
Profile Joined June 2011
United States501 Posts
August 10 2012 00:22 GMT
#38
Sage to foreign events please.
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TheRealFluid
Profile Joined June 2011
United States501 Posts
August 10 2012 00:23 GMT
#39
On August 10 2012 08:15 sVnteen wrote:
what gaming?

interesting pickup
they must have some money they want to spend xD
I guess they'll send him to some foreign tournaments and that's nice for him, a good chance to prove himself

As long as jjakji stays on the team, I have faith.
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 10 2012 00:29 GMT
#40
On August 10 2012 09:08 NexUmbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 08:10 -YounG wrote:
im seriously pissed at koreans moving outside of korea... it says that he can train hard at their gaming house.. but europe server training is not good enough for the koreans.. omg another person gone from GSL. *sigh* congratz on the pickup but at least let him stay in korea..


Agree so much! PuMa was(apparently) one of the most requested practice partners in BW and then he got picked up by EG. In that GSTL game(granted it was just one game!) he looked quite pathetic. I remember that GSTL game where he beat BbongBbong, people thought this kid looks good. Then he beat MarineKing, who just got Ro4 in Super Tournament and then beat Polt, the champion of the super tournament! I think that he would have gone much farther had he stayed in Korea.

Wow, so you judge Puma off that one GSTL game? What about winning NASL 2 with EG? What about winning IEM Cologne with EG? What about his second place finish at DreamHack Winter 2011 and IEM World Championship season 6? Or his third place finishes at IEM China and Assembly in March? Dude has won nearly $100,000 while on EG.
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hangene92
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada258 Posts
August 10 2012 00:31 GMT
#41
I hope for the best for sage. Maybe its because most koreans don't like the practice schedule in the korean teams so maybe thats why their going to foreign teams.
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9013 Posts
August 10 2012 00:45 GMT
#42
I had forgotten about Sage until this news. GL to him and Alt-Tab gaming.
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
August 10 2012 00:46 GMT
#43
sage shrine or inca shrine :D
the throws never bothered me anyway
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 10 2012 00:56 GMT
#44
Huh, I hope Sage finds success on his new team. I was imagining he'd join a more well-known team, though. No offense to Alt-Tab Gaming, but I've never heard of them or any of their players until today.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 01:04:15
August 10 2012 01:03 GMT
#45
Does precipitation have another meaning I am not aware of?

EDIT: and that it does, thank you dictionary.com. No thank you to my hastiness in posting.
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
August 10 2012 01:07 GMT
#46
I just want to see his chargelot/phoenix play again. =\
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Tivu
Profile Joined February 2012
United States244 Posts
August 10 2012 01:09 GMT
#47
Congrats on the pickup. Good luck sage.
LongBow
Profile Joined May 2012
United States265 Posts
August 10 2012 01:57 GMT
#48
Now I wonder where Jjakji will go. Cmon Koreans, Foreign money and tournaments here for the taking!
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
August 10 2012 01:57 GMT
#49
Nice pick up. Haven't heard of you guys before maybe i should have. Gl sage!
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MegaFonzie
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia1084 Posts
August 10 2012 02:01 GMT
#50
Oh my god WHAT

Sage is my favourite player but I didn't see this move coming at all. Congrats to him!
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 10 2012 02:03 GMT
#51
Alt-Tab isn't even well known in France. Weird transfer. Hope they'll go well together anyway.
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NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
August 10 2012 02:04 GMT
#52
On August 10 2012 08:12 BoggieMan wrote:
lol i have never heard of this team or these players before :O except sage.
just a sign sc2 is a huge esport!
gl sage :D


Same for me ! I guess i heard once of Neoangel, but I could be wrong.

Good Luck in your new team Sage !
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cndaks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States95 Posts
August 10 2012 02:05 GMT
#53
WOw sage
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 10 2012 02:09 GMT
#54
On August 10 2012 09:56 HolyArrow wrote:
Huh, I hope Sage finds success on his new team. I was imagining he'd join a more well-known team, though. No offense to Alt-Tab Gaming, but I've never heard of them or any of their players until today.


Well to be fair Sage hasn't really had any results since he burst into the team league the first time about a year ago now.

Sure they're fairly unknown, but given the introduction from Sage, his recent results and the fact that I believe NSHoseo is potentially not well sponsored I'm not terribly surprised that this alignment happened.

Best of luck to all parties. Hoping Sage can flourish, not vanish.
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Greggle
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1131 Posts
August 10 2012 02:11 GMT
#55
Oh boy, one of my favorite teams takes another huge hit losing one of my favorite players so he can go live in a house with nobody I've ever heard of and play in less interesting tournaments =(

Yeah, sorry. I hate foreign teams picking up Koreans.
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brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 02:36:05
August 10 2012 02:34 GMT
#56
On August 10 2012 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 09:08 NexUmbra wrote:
On August 10 2012 08:10 -YounG wrote:
im seriously pissed at koreans moving outside of korea... it says that he can train hard at their gaming house.. but europe server training is not good enough for the koreans.. omg another person gone from GSL. *sigh* congratz on the pickup but at least let him stay in korea..


Agree so much! PuMa was(apparently) one of the most requested practice partners in BW and then he got picked up by EG. In that GSTL game(granted it was just one game!) he looked quite pathetic. I remember that GSTL game where he beat BbongBbong, people thought this kid looks good. Then he beat MarineKing, who just got Ro4 in Super Tournament and then beat Polt, the champion of the super tournament! I think that he would have gone much farther had he stayed in Korea.

Wow, so you judge Puma off that one GSTL game? What about winning NASL 2 with EG? What about winning IEM Cologne with EG? What about his second place finish at DreamHack Winter 2011 and IEM World Championship season 6? Or his third place finishes at IEM China and Assembly in March? Dude has won nearly $100,000 while on EG.

Almost all of his best achievements in EG are done within a couple of months after he left TSL, after that, he gone down hill.

Edit: What he said that he has so much potential has he stayed with TSL to begin with.
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Adersick
Profile Joined July 2011
United States216 Posts
August 10 2012 02:54 GMT
#57
Wow, fantastic pickup for Alt-Tab! It's awesome to hear Sage getting motivation from big foreign tournaments, I look forward to seeing his opportunities in his new team.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10316 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 02:56:39
August 10 2012 02:56 GMT
#58
On August 10 2012 11:34 brachester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 10 2012 09:08 NexUmbra wrote:
On August 10 2012 08:10 -YounG wrote:
im seriously pissed at koreans moving outside of korea... it says that he can train hard at their gaming house.. but europe server training is not good enough for the koreans.. omg another person gone from GSL. *sigh* congratz on the pickup but at least let him stay in korea..


Agree so much! PuMa was(apparently) one of the most requested practice partners in BW and then he got picked up by EG. In that GSTL game(granted it was just one game!) he looked quite pathetic. I remember that GSTL game where he beat BbongBbong, people thought this kid looks good. Then he beat MarineKing, who just got Ro4 in Super Tournament and then beat Polt, the champion of the super tournament! I think that he would have gone much farther had he stayed in Korea.

Wow, so you judge Puma off that one GSTL game? What about winning NASL 2 with EG? What about winning IEM Cologne with EG? What about his second place finish at DreamHack Winter 2011 and IEM World Championship season 6? Or his third place finishes at IEM China and Assembly in March? Dude has won nearly $100,000 while on EG.

Almost all of his best achievements in EG are done within a couple of months after he left TSL, after that, he gone down hill.

Edit: What he said that he has so much potential has he stayed with TSL to begin with.


@ jmbthirteen
Even though he placed well in those tournaments, let's be honest... the competition was much easier than even Code A. Most of the competitors in those tournaments would probably not even be Code A level (at least the foreigners). Those tournaments aren't as big/important as even MLG (which doesn't even have most of the koreans), let alone GSL.

Also, good point by brachester
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
August 10 2012 03:13 GMT
#59
It feels kinda dickish to say this... but it feels like Sage totally blew his career by doing this move. But on the other hand he haven't done much for a long time and if this will give him a spark for the game again then good for him. Hopefully he gets back on a korean team asap if he feel like he really wanna go all out with being a progamer etc. Cuz kid has potential no doubt about that, but I don't think any foreign team can turn that potential into something greater.

gl Sage!
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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 10 2012 03:13 GMT
#60
On August 10 2012 11:09 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 09:56 HolyArrow wrote:
Huh, I hope Sage finds success on his new team. I was imagining he'd join a more well-known team, though. No offense to Alt-Tab Gaming, but I've never heard of them or any of their players until today.


Well to be fair Sage hasn't really had any results since he burst into the team league the first time about a year ago now.

Sure they're fairly unknown, but given the introduction from Sage, his recent results and the fact that I believe NSHoseo is potentially not well sponsored I'm not terribly surprised that this alignment happened.

Best of luck to all parties. Hoping Sage can flourish, not vanish.


That's true. I hope this new team will motivate him. Perhaps it's for the better that it's a lesser known team, maybe he'll feel more responsibility to step up and deliver.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 03:19:17
August 10 2012 03:16 GMT
#61
On August 10 2012 11:34 brachester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 10 2012 09:08 NexUmbra wrote:
On August 10 2012 08:10 -YounG wrote:
im seriously pissed at koreans moving outside of korea... it says that he can train hard at their gaming house.. but europe server training is not good enough for the koreans.. omg another person gone from GSL. *sigh* congratz on the pickup but at least let him stay in korea..


Agree so much! PuMa was(apparently) one of the most requested practice partners in BW and then he got picked up by EG. In that GSTL game(granted it was just one game!) he looked quite pathetic. I remember that GSTL game where he beat BbongBbong, people thought this kid looks good. Then he beat MarineKing, who just got Ro4 in Super Tournament and then beat Polt, the champion of the super tournament! I think that he would have gone much farther had he stayed in Korea.

Wow, so you judge Puma off that one GSTL game? What about winning NASL 2 with EG? What about winning IEM Cologne with EG? What about his second place finish at DreamHack Winter 2011 and IEM World Championship season 6? Or his third place finishes at IEM China and Assembly in March? Dude has won nearly $100,000 while on EG.

Almost all of his best achievements in EG are done within a couple of months after he left TSL, after that, he gone down hill.

Edit: What he said that he has so much potential has he stayed with TSL to begin with.

DreamHack, NASL 2 were both like 5 months after joining EG. IEM Worlds and Assembly were even longer after. And now instead of the TSL house, he's at the SlayerS house. Hardly a downgrade.

On August 10 2012 11:56 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 11:34 brachester wrote:
On August 10 2012 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 10 2012 09:08 NexUmbra wrote:
On August 10 2012 08:10 -YounG wrote:
im seriously pissed at koreans moving outside of korea... it says that he can train hard at their gaming house.. but europe server training is not good enough for the koreans.. omg another person gone from GSL. *sigh* congratz on the pickup but at least let him stay in korea..


Agree so much! PuMa was(apparently) one of the most requested practice partners in BW and then he got picked up by EG. In that GSTL game(granted it was just one game!) he looked quite pathetic. I remember that GSTL game where he beat BbongBbong, people thought this kid looks good. Then he beat MarineKing, who just got Ro4 in Super Tournament and then beat Polt, the champion of the super tournament! I think that he would have gone much farther had he stayed in Korea.

Wow, so you judge Puma off that one GSTL game? What about winning NASL 2 with EG? What about winning IEM Cologne with EG? What about his second place finish at DreamHack Winter 2011 and IEM World Championship season 6? Or his third place finishes at IEM China and Assembly in March? Dude has won nearly $100,000 while on EG.

Almost all of his best achievements in EG are done within a couple of months after he left TSL, after that, he gone down hill.

Edit: What he said that he has so much potential has he stayed with TSL to begin with.


@ jmbthirteen
Even though he placed well in those tournaments, let's be honest... the competition was much easier than even Code A. Most of the competitors in those tournaments would probably not even be Code A level (at least the foreigners). Those tournaments aren't as big/important as even MLG (which doesn't even have most of the koreans), let alone GSL.

Also, good point by brachester


So? He still beat guys like MC, Hero, DRG, Squirtle, July, and tons of other Code A/S players while winning those tournaments and performing well in them. Even in the last MLG Championship Event he finished 5/6. I'm not saying he is at best in the world status, but to say he hasn't flourished on EG because he hasn't been in GSL is ignorant.

Foreign teams have been very good for Koreans. I already listed Puma's accomplishments, MC flies around the world and gets top 3's all the time, Taeja has been a BOSS, Hero became a much better player, JYP is in Code S. Its up to the player to do well, not the team he is on.
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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
August 10 2012 03:18 GMT
#62
Kind of expected. Seems like Koreans really want foreign exposure even if it means that the teams they join aren't really "up there".
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8332 Posts
August 10 2012 03:33 GMT
#63
another Korean bites the dust.Natural selection is harsh.gg
Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
August 10 2012 03:34 GMT
#64
cough Nice timing for Sage to by pass the KeSPA ban. cough

Can we start guessing which KeSPA team is going to sign him?
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
August 10 2012 03:36 GMT
#65
Go Sage! Sad to see you leave NSH, But GLGL!
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beesinyoface
Profile Joined May 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 03:45:33
August 10 2012 03:44 GMT
#66
On August 10 2012 12:16 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 11:34 brachester wrote:
On August 10 2012 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 10 2012 09:08 NexUmbra wrote:
On August 10 2012 08:10 -YounG wrote:
im seriously pissed at koreans moving outside of korea... it says that he can train hard at their gaming house.. but europe server training is not good enough for the koreans.. omg another person gone from GSL. *sigh* congratz on the pickup but at least let him stay in korea..


Agree so much! PuMa was(apparently) one of the most requested practice partners in BW and then he got picked up by EG. In that GSTL game(granted it was just one game!) he looked quite pathetic. I remember that GSTL game where he beat BbongBbong, people thought this kid looks good. Then he beat MarineKing, who just got Ro4 in Super Tournament and then beat Polt, the champion of the super tournament! I think that he would have gone much farther had he stayed in Korea.

Wow, so you judge Puma off that one GSTL game? What about winning NASL 2 with EG? What about winning IEM Cologne with EG? What about his second place finish at DreamHack Winter 2011 and IEM World Championship season 6? Or his third place finishes at IEM China and Assembly in March? Dude has won nearly $100,000 while on EG.

Almost all of his best achievements in EG are done within a couple of months after he left TSL, after that, he gone down hill.

Edit: What he said that he has so much potential has he stayed with TSL to begin with.

DreamHack, NASL 2 were both like 5 months after joining EG. IEM Worlds and Assembly were even longer after. And now instead of the TSL house, he's at the SlayerS house. Hardly a downgrade.

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 11:56 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On August 10 2012 11:34 brachester wrote:
On August 10 2012 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 10 2012 09:08 NexUmbra wrote:
On August 10 2012 08:10 -YounG wrote:
im seriously pissed at koreans moving outside of korea... it says that he can train hard at their gaming house.. but europe server training is not good enough for the koreans.. omg another person gone from GSL. *sigh* congratz on the pickup but at least let him stay in korea..


Agree so much! PuMa was(apparently) one of the most requested practice partners in BW and then he got picked up by EG. In that GSTL game(granted it was just one game!) he looked quite pathetic. I remember that GSTL game where he beat BbongBbong, people thought this kid looks good. Then he beat MarineKing, who just got Ro4 in Super Tournament and then beat Polt, the champion of the super tournament! I think that he would have gone much farther had he stayed in Korea.

Wow, so you judge Puma off that one GSTL game? What about winning NASL 2 with EG? What about winning IEM Cologne with EG? What about his second place finish at DreamHack Winter 2011 and IEM World Championship season 6? Or his third place finishes at IEM China and Assembly in March? Dude has won nearly $100,000 while on EG.

Almost all of his best achievements in EG are done within a couple of months after he left TSL, after that, he gone down hill.

Edit: What he said that he has so much potential has he stayed with TSL to begin with.


@ jmbthirteen
Even though he placed well in those tournaments, let's be honest... the competition was much easier than even Code A. Most of the competitors in those tournaments would probably not even be Code A level (at least the foreigners). Those tournaments aren't as big/important as even MLG (which doesn't even have most of the koreans), let alone GSL.

Also, good point by brachester


So? He still beat guys like MC, Hero, DRG, Squirtle, July, and tons of other Code A/S players while winning those tournaments and performing well in them. Even in the last MLG Championship Event he finished 5/6. I'm not saying he is at best in the world status, but to say he hasn't flourished on EG because he hasn't been in GSL is ignorant.

Foreign teams have been very good for Koreans. I already listed Puma's accomplishments, MC flies around the world and gets top 3's all the time, Taeja has been a BOSS, Hero became a much better player, JYP is in Code S. Its up to the player to do well, not the team he is on.

That last sentence is absolute gold and 100% true.

edit: best of luck Sage, hopefully you find the passion and enjoy your new surroundings.
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UndoneJin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States438 Posts
August 10 2012 04:15 GMT
#67
This could take AT from obscurity to fame. Best of luck guys!
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 10 2012 04:31 GMT
#68
Team Who ? sorry but i have never even heard of this team before. Grats to both i guess, may this last ...
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
August 10 2012 04:53 GMT
#69
On August 10 2012 13:31 Lysanias wrote:
Team Who ? sorry but i have never even heard of this team before. Grats to both i guess, may this last ...

My thoughts exactly...
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 10 2012 05:02 GMT
#70
Best of luck, I hope they give Sage the proper boost he needs.
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glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
August 10 2012 05:15 GMT
#71
Wow NSH losing people left and right. Sia, Shuttle, Sting, now Sage? Who's next, Tassadar?
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MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
August 10 2012 05:21 GMT
#72
I've never heard of Alt-Tab Gaming before.
GoonFFS
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark323 Posts
August 10 2012 05:43 GMT
#73
Never heard about Alt-Tab Gaming either, but i with the best for Sage and i guess this means AltTab is going to start being relevant ;>
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MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
August 10 2012 05:51 GMT
#74
haha what a cool name for a team. Best of luck to Sage and the team \m/,
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
August 10 2012 07:06 GMT
#75
WOW didnt see this coming, I love his name
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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
August 10 2012 07:34 GMT
#76
As far as I know NSHO is not that much of a rich team. So I wasn't surprised when I heard the transfer.

I just wonder what happens when the captain of the ship evacuates it first..
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Pocky52
Profile Joined November 2011
United States463 Posts
August 10 2012 07:39 GMT
#77
unexpected, feel bad for NSHS... TT congratz to Sage and alt tab though
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2576 Posts
August 10 2012 07:43 GMT
#78
Ooooh, me poor NSHS boyos .
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33192 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 07:48:55
August 10 2012 07:47 GMT
#79
On August 10 2012 08:10 -YounG wrote:
im seriously pissed at koreans moving outside of korea... it says that he can train hard at their gaming house.. but europe server training is not good enough for the koreans.. omg another person gone from GSL. *sigh* congratz on the pickup but at least let him stay in korea..


eh, it's not really in the spirit of "Be the best in the world!" and other idealistic pursuits, but realistically you have to make a risk/reward decision based on your talent as to whether you focus 100% on improving your skill, or make some concessions to get what financial gain you can out of progaming, a career path that in the majority of cases cannot be sustained past your early 20's.
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Tom Cruise
Profile Joined July 2012
Denmark482 Posts
August 10 2012 07:48 GMT
#80
"alt tab", wow, lol.
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
August 10 2012 07:50 GMT
#81
Oh cool! Good luck! :D
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X3No
Profile Joined July 2011
France11 Posts
August 10 2012 08:11 GMT
#82
Nice for Alt-Tab, I hope the best for Sage ! :p
Kamwah
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom724 Posts
August 10 2012 08:12 GMT
#83
Demotion T_T

<3 Sage
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GhostLink
Profile Joined January 2011
United States450 Posts
August 10 2012 08:20 GMT
#84
Sage left NSHS? What?
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Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
August 10 2012 08:22 GMT
#85
weird but congrats. I just hope sage will be happy in this rather strange environment.
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Majynx
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1431 Posts
August 10 2012 08:30 GMT
#86
Good luck to Sage, never knew he left NSHS.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
August 10 2012 08:41 GMT
#87
I`m a bit torn about this. Sure, Sage gets some shortterm money, but on the longterm this move will hurt his skill and therefore decrease his market value. Good luck anyways.
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Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
August 10 2012 08:57 GMT
#88
On August 10 2012 17:41 zul wrote:
I`m a bit torn about this. Sure, Sage gets some shortterm money, but on the longterm this move will hurt his skill and therefore decrease his market value. Good luck anyways.


Yeah, no player who trained 99% on UE ever got a good result in a big tournament, and all players who trained mostly in Korea had awesome results and incredible skill increase.

Nerchio/Stephano/Mana/Thorzhain.

Idra/TLO/HuK/ToD.

You might be right though, it's just your link between "playing on EU" and "skill decrease" which is irrevelant.
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 09:06:29
August 10 2012 09:05 GMT
#89
On August 10 2012 17:41 zul wrote:
I`m a bit torn about this. Sure, Sage gets some shortterm money, but on the longterm this move will hurt his skill and therefore decrease his market value. Good luck anyways.

I think for a player like Sage, he was kinda stagnating at NSHoSeo. Not too sure as to the exact reason for his stagnation, perhaps lack of motivation or just pure Artosis curse. But it was kind of obvious that his results had really really dropped off. It was a smart choice for him IMO. He didn't really look like he could regain the form which almost got him into Code S, and I feel staying at NSHoSeo any longer might have hurt him.

Not saying he'll be better with this move, just that he's got more opportunities for salary, new experiences, and most importantly prize money.
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Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
August 10 2012 09:06 GMT
#90
Congrats obviously, but you should probably edit the Proffesional gaming section to:
ATǂSage

And that's about it, can't really compare the rest of the team to him.
executorx
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany81 Posts
August 10 2012 09:08 GMT
#91
never heard of this team.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
August 10 2012 09:14 GMT
#92
I hope Sage understood the terms of this contract correctly...
Emperor
Profile Joined May 2012
Norway68 Posts
August 10 2012 09:39 GMT
#93
I have no idea why Sage would join Alt Tab Gaming at all. Their players are by no means bad, but not remotly close to the level of Sage at all. But i guess money speaks or something like that.
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Riktus
Profile Joined August 2012
France2 Posts
August 10 2012 09:58 GMT
#94
I hope it will not end up like Virus or Esahara
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
August 10 2012 10:01 GMT
#95
I almost read Sase xD lol.. Nice news tho, gl to him and to the team!
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Tidus Mino
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
August 10 2012 10:05 GMT
#96
On August 10 2012 18:58 Riktus wrote:
I hope it will not end up like Virus or Esahara


Didn't you notice? it has the same manager as Esahara/Absolute Legends

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WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
August 10 2012 10:20 GMT
#97
NSH seems to be going the way of ZeNEX, to be honest. Sting (who was performing well recently, particularly in qualifiers) and Sage (team captain) leaving, San trying to leave just a few months ago... it is hard to shake the feeling that the team is being held together with a string.
FnaticNaama
Profile Joined February 2010
Finland120 Posts
August 10 2012 10:26 GMT
#98
On August 10 2012 18:58 Riktus wrote:
I hope it will not end up like Virus or Esahara

Esahara was very good tbh. AL was a pile of shit
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Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
August 10 2012 10:49 GMT
#99
Never heard of them. Best of luck to Sage and the team, but I hope for him that he made the right decision.
Riquiz
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands402 Posts
August 10 2012 11:06 GMT
#100
Nice pickup, I wish both the best !
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Asmodeusx
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
286 Posts
August 10 2012 11:14 GMT
#101
The line up looks something like this

- Michael Jordan
- Bob
- Frank
- Mark
- John
- John

I hope it works out well for Sage and the team.
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8332 Posts
August 10 2012 11:18 GMT
#102
On August 10 2012 17:57 Agathon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 17:41 zul wrote:
I`m a bit torn about this. Sure, Sage gets some shortterm money, but on the longterm this move will hurt his skill and therefore decrease his market value. Good luck anyways.


Yeah, no player who trained 99% on UE ever got a good result in a big tournament, and all players who trained mostly in Korea had awesome results and incredible skill increase.

Nerchio/Stephano/Mana/Thorzhain.

Idra/TLO/HuK/ToD.

You might be right though, it's just your link between "playing on EU" and "skill decrease" which is irrevelant.

only one of those eight players is good. Whats your point?
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
August 10 2012 11:29 GMT
#103
On August 10 2012 20:18 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 17:57 Agathon wrote:
On August 10 2012 17:41 zul wrote:
I`m a bit torn about this. Sure, Sage gets some shortterm money, but on the longterm this move will hurt his skill and therefore decrease his market value. Good luck anyways.


Yeah, no player who trained 99% on UE ever got a good result in a big tournament, and all players who trained mostly in Korea had awesome results and incredible skill increase.

Nerchio/Stephano/Mana/Thorzhain.

Idra/TLO/HuK/ToD.

You might be right though, it's just your link between "playing on EU" and "skill decrease" which is irrevelant.

only one of those eight players is good. Whats your point?


Saying that Sage's skill will decrease BECAUSE he'll play on EU ladder has no sens. This is my point. Quoted players are my exemples.

"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
MyLastSerenade
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany710 Posts
August 10 2012 11:38 GMT
#104
dont know what to think of that...
gl to both parties!
myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
August 10 2012 11:46 GMT
#105
he ll also go to ministry of win
source their facebook page
RYUZbim
Profile Joined December 2011
France48 Posts
August 10 2012 12:48 GMT
#106
wow, this lineup makes no sense, not even a top50 EU and they recruit a KR.. gl to both anyway
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
August 10 2012 12:49 GMT
#107
Aww. . .Sucks for NSH. :[
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 10 2012 12:55 GMT
#108
On August 10 2012 20:29 Agathon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 20:18 Arceus wrote:
On August 10 2012 17:57 Agathon wrote:
On August 10 2012 17:41 zul wrote:
I`m a bit torn about this. Sure, Sage gets some shortterm money, but on the longterm this move will hurt his skill and therefore decrease his market value. Good luck anyways.


Yeah, no player who trained 99% on UE ever got a good result in a big tournament, and all players who trained mostly in Korea had awesome results and incredible skill increase.

Nerchio/Stephano/Mana/Thorzhain.

Idra/TLO/HuK/ToD.

You might be right though, it's just your link between "playing on EU" and "skill decrease" which is irrevelant.

only one of those eight players is good. Whats your point?


Saying that Sage's skill will decrease BECAUSE he'll play on EU ladder has no sens. This is my point. Quoted players are my exemples.



there is a better exemple: ViOlet. He even plays on NA XD
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Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
August 10 2012 13:11 GMT
#109
Congrats great pick up for you guys
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8332 Posts
August 10 2012 13:39 GMT
#110
On August 10 2012 20:29 Agathon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 20:18 Arceus wrote:
On August 10 2012 17:57 Agathon wrote:
On August 10 2012 17:41 zul wrote:
I`m a bit torn about this. Sure, Sage gets some shortterm money, but on the longterm this move will hurt his skill and therefore decrease his market value. Good luck anyways.


Yeah, no player who trained 99% on UE ever got a good result in a big tournament, and all players who trained mostly in Korea had awesome results and incredible skill increase.

Nerchio/Stephano/Mana/Thorzhain.

Idra/TLO/HuK/ToD.

You might be right though, it's just your link between "playing on EU" and "skill decrease" which is irrevelant.

only one of those eight players is good. Whats your point?


Saying that Sage's skill will decrease BECAUSE he'll play on EU ladder has no sens. This is my point. Quoted players are my exemples.


well hes gonna disappear from [insert Korean leagues] and probably get pass 2 rounds in MLG open bracket
thats the case for most mediocre Koreans who bail out of Korean scene.
myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
August 10 2012 14:39 GMT
#111
On August 10 2012 22:39 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 20:29 Agathon wrote:
On August 10 2012 20:18 Arceus wrote:
On August 10 2012 17:57 Agathon wrote:
On August 10 2012 17:41 zul wrote:
I`m a bit torn about this. Sure, Sage gets some shortterm money, but on the longterm this move will hurt his skill and therefore decrease his market value. Good luck anyways.


Yeah, no player who trained 99% on UE ever got a good result in a big tournament, and all players who trained mostly in Korea had awesome results and incredible skill increase.

Nerchio/Stephano/Mana/Thorzhain.

Idra/TLO/HuK/ToD.

You might be right though, it's just your link between "playing on EU" and "skill decrease" which is irrevelant.

only one of those eight players is good. Whats your point?


Saying that Sage's skill will decrease BECAUSE he'll play on EU ladder has no sens. This is my point. Quoted players are my exemples.


well hes gonna disappear from [insert Korean leagues] and probably get pass 2 rounds in MLG open bracket
thats the case for most mediocre Koreans who bail out of Korean scene.



no
take a look at esc daisy or type real
best example of korean players playing on eu and stuff
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
August 10 2012 14:55 GMT
#112
Awesome news for Sage! Best of luck at the ministry of win house
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Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
August 10 2012 15:00 GMT
#113
On August 10 2012 22:39 Arceus wrote:
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On August 10 2012 20:29 Agathon wrote:
On August 10 2012 20:18 Arceus wrote:
On August 10 2012 17:57 Agathon wrote:
On August 10 2012 17:41 zul wrote:
I`m a bit torn about this. Sure, Sage gets some shortterm money, but on the longterm this move will hurt his skill and therefore decrease his market value. Good luck anyways.


Yeah, no player who trained 99% on UE ever got a good result in a big tournament, and all players who trained mostly in Korea had awesome results and incredible skill increase.

Nerchio/Stephano/Mana/Thorzhain.

Idra/TLO/HuK/ToD.

You might be right though, it's just your link between "playing on EU" and "skill decrease" which is irrevelant.

only one of those eight players is good. Whats your point?


Saying that Sage's skill will decrease BECAUSE he'll play on EU ladder has no sens. This is my point. Quoted players are my exemples.


well hes gonna disappear from [insert Korean leagues] and probably get pass 2 rounds in MLG open bracket
thats the case for most mediocre Koreans who bail out of Korean scene.


What does it change? If he's mediocre and stays in Korea, he will be...mediocre. Unless you know a mediocre korean player who won a GSL just because he wisely stays involved in the korean scene.

What the ...? I don't get your point bro.
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
August 10 2012 15:08 GMT
#114
Haha, I wonder what's next. San joining alt-F4 gaming, Seal joining ctrl-alt-delete gaming?
Likthor
Profile Joined September 2011
57 Posts
August 10 2012 15:58 GMT
#115
On August 11 2012 00:08 Harrad wrote:
Haha, I wonder what's next. San joining alt-F4 gaming, Seal joining ctrl-alt-delete gaming?

god this humor...lvl up plz
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 16:20:57
August 10 2012 16:16 GMT
#116
On August 11 2012 00:58 Likthor wrote:
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On August 11 2012 00:08 Harrad wrote:
Haha, I wonder what's next. San joining alt-F4 gaming, Seal joining ctrl-alt-delete gaming?

god this humor...lvl up plz


Okay I'll try, but it wasn't supposed to be funny anyway. It just makes me sad when a talented player like Sage who knows NOTHING about Europe and its scene joins a random unestablished European team whose players are third-rate at best (compared to Sage's level), just to follow the shallow wish of going "overseas, playing in overcrowded tournaments". The article implies that alt-tab is only able to send him to European tournaments, that means he won't be able to go MLGs or other events outside of Europe.
The worst thing of all is that they have him come to Europe so he can't even practice with other Koreans, so all he can do is practice on the subpar EU Ladder or beg for high-caliber practice partners from other teams.

tl;dr: This is bad for Sage.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
August 10 2012 16:25 GMT
#117
Hey, he knows Morrow, Jinro and Stephano.^^ Probably Naniwa, too. And most of the tournaments are in Europe anyway. I don't think it's a bad move per se.

Golden and Sleep did pretty well when they moved to the US, viOlet even more so. And Sage at his best is better than Golden or Sleep in my opinion. It's a chance to get a lot more recognition than he could ever achieve while being stuck in Code B in Korea.

On the other hand, adapting to the culture and being the lone Korean in Warsaw won't be easy. I hope Alt-Tab know what they're doing and help him a LOT!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13967 Posts
August 10 2012 16:31 GMT
#118
is it okay that I dont kno him or his team?
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MegaFonzie
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia1084 Posts
August 10 2012 16:35 GMT
#119
On August 11 2012 01:16 Harrad wrote:
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On August 11 2012 00:58 Likthor wrote:
On August 11 2012 00:08 Harrad wrote:
Haha, I wonder what's next. San joining alt-F4 gaming, Seal joining ctrl-alt-delete gaming?

god this humor...lvl up plz


Okay I'll try, but it wasn't supposed to be funny anyway. It just makes me sad when a talented player like Sage who knows NOTHING about Europe and its scene joins a random unestablished European team whose players are third-rate at best (compared to Sage's level), just to follow the shallow wish of going "overseas, playing in overcrowded tournaments". The article implies that alt-tab is only able to send him to European tournaments, that means he won't be able to go MLGs or other events outside of Europe.
The worst thing of all is that they have him come to Europe so he can't even practice with other Koreans, so all he can do is practice on the subpar EU Ladder or beg for high-caliber practice partners from other teams.

tl;dr: This is bad for Sage.


Be fair, he's a grown man and a smart one. He wouldn't join this team unless he had confidence in what they offered him. His goals in starcraft right now are to play in big tournaments, in front of passionate fans - is that really shallow? His career was stagnating majorly in Korea, the only thing he has is the GSL which he's dishearteningly failed to qualify for for multiple seasons, and the team league, where he didn't get too much run anyway for whatever reason. I love NSH but they're not in a position to be flying their players around the world to compete.

Whether or not this will be a good or bad move in terms of skill is remain to be seen. Sure, Korea is notoriously 'the' place to be to improve, but you can't underestimate the negative impact that things such as flailing passion or boredom with the game can have on someone. That's why he wants to move - new challenges, new goals, and an invigorated mindset. There's every chance his move to Europe will help his career flourish, Korea isn't the be all and end all of professional starcraft.
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Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 16:46:39
August 10 2012 16:46 GMT
#120
Of course, he is, and it's his decision, but that doesn't necessarily make it a good one. Where would this confidence you speak of come from though? Sage is a Korean who most likely hasn't left Korea since he was born (like most other Korean progamer that aren't Boxer & Co). I think he was just looking for any team that would enable him to "go overseas", and the first best (by his judging) was alt-tab.

You are right though, he will have more opportunities in Europe than he would have if he remained in Korea. But his skill WILL stagnate, but I guess it's worth as long as he is happy and able to fulfill his dream of playing in front of big crowds of passionate fans.
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
August 10 2012 17:05 GMT
#121
never heard of any of the people on the team... except for sage
My religion is Starcraft
X3No
Profile Joined July 2011
France11 Posts
August 10 2012 17:14 GMT
#122
Song was in mTw Team and Neoangel was in GM and is one of the best french protoss with a lot of good result in some tournaments.
But the problem is that almost all of the player are top french but that doesnt mean they are top/mid EU, that's why you never heard about them.
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
August 10 2012 17:18 GMT
#123
AT-SonG is a good guy for sure! hope Sage will happy in AT!
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
August 10 2012 17:18 GMT
#124
Not to be a party pooper, but I never heard of your team or the players on your team before. So congrats, this pick-up ensures at least you get a lot of attention
On the other hand, I'm really sad for NS-Hoseo, their line-up was thin as is, and this does not bode well for one of the poorest Korean teams...
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cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
August 10 2012 18:12 GMT
#125
Huh. Haven't heard from Sage in awhile; followed him for a bit, but he dropped off after a couple months. Never even heard of Alt-Tab Gaming before....

Good luck to both Sage and his new team!
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Vanimar
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
220 Posts
August 10 2012 19:05 GMT
#126
Who joins what`?
I figured out the EG Curse. It was set in motion by Voodoo Shamans working for Millenium. Whenever EG aquires a player, Voodoo energies start slowly draining skill from the EG guy into an Millenium newcomer. Think about it!
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 19:11:54
August 10 2012 19:07 GMT
#127
Its good for Sage . AT Gaming has some partnership with Ministry of win . Its also smart move for him , he gonna live in Poland for some time . Poland is in center of Eu , its close everywere he can go to every Eu tournament now.



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wizshaw2
Profile Joined October 2011
25 Posts
August 10 2012 23:02 GMT
#128
Never even heard of the team. He will eventually leave.
StarcraftWonders
Profile Joined June 2012
United States59 Posts
August 11 2012 16:14 GMT
#129
gratz
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pOnarreT
Profile Joined March 2012
155 Posts
August 11 2012 16:18 GMT
#130
never seen alt-tab gaming in any major tournament... i think he joined without reviewing the team. but doesn't matter if he gets what he wants and the team becomes successful
dieselnerd
Profile Joined July 2012
United States42 Posts
August 12 2012 01:08 GMT
#131
What a complete waste. I bet Artosis is so sad.
I'm gonna lift the world today, you mind brah?
Hds
Profile Joined July 2011
France200 Posts
August 12 2012 20:07 GMT
#132
Hahaha, mygad, hahaha

Such a waste, hahaha, I can't stop laughing, Sage in this french team, even though I'm french, hahaha
Watily! ♥
Astronomy74
Profile Joined November 2011
United States31 Posts
August 13 2012 20:35 GMT
#133
Good luck Sage<3 hope for the best!
If you work hard enough at this game, you can be the best at this game no matter what anyone else says, stay to it and you can achieve that goal.
Burns
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2300 Posts
August 15 2012 19:19 GMT
#134
well to be honest, it sounds like a repeat of sleep leaving slayers, he left a quality korean pro team to join a foreign team with "money" then the money ran out and he fucked himself over.
What do you mean you heard me during the night, these are quiet pants!
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
August 15 2012 19:28 GMT
#135
Kind of messed up. I'm so tired of these korea-> small foreign team transfers, Sigh :\
gl alt tab gaming tho i guesss
can i get my estro logo back pls
Jordan_
Profile Joined March 2012
Italy50 Posts
August 15 2012 19:59 GMT
#136
Good luck Sage!
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