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Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 20:23:58
August 06 2012 16:53 GMT
#1
These interviews are translated from http://s.163.com/12/0806/19/888GATK400314D0E.html (Chinese, Curious), http://s.163.com/12/0806/22/888PGRGN00314D0E.html (Chinese, aLive), http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?category=13439&id=1260929 (Korean, Curious), and http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1261001&board=&category=13439 (Korean, aLive)


First of all, I'm sorry I will only be able to do these two interviews as the website I translate from only translated these two interviews.
Thanks Wozzot for the StarTale_Parting interview


StarTale_Curious
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Q: How does it feel making it to the round of 16 of the winner's bracket?
A: I heard that Rain was really good, and so I felt that the match today would be a very tough one. However, after the games were over, I realised that the games were actually won quite comfortably. I guess I get this feeling mainly because my strategy in the first game was really successful.

Q: Your opponent was Kespa player Rain. What were your thoughts when you first saw the brackets?
A: I thought that it was inevitable that such a day would eventually come. We started playing Starcraft 2 much earlier than them, and if I had lost today, I would really have to spend some time reflecting when I went back. Fortunately I won today.

Q; You won the first game today with a really strong all-in attack.
A: Kespa players are really good in terms of their mechanics. That'd be the case when they come to Starcraft 2 as well. If I played the game according to the recent metagame, I wouldn't have been able to make the most of my advantage. As a result, I was thinking towards some older builds. My team mate recommended this build to me, and I chose to use it today. It was recommended to me by a team mate who just recently joined the team.

Q: The second game went on much longer than expected.
A: At that time, after the game was over, my coach told me that the game should have been over long ago. But during the game, my thoughts were that I should play with a more stable style, and the game dragged on as a result.

Q; Your opponent in the round of 16 of the winner's bracket is Miya.
A: Recently, the match up I am least confident in is ZvP, and so I am very glad to have been able to win today. My next opponent is Miya, and I am very confident in my ZvZ. I think the games will be very entertaining.

Q: This tournament uses a double-elimination format.
A: This format is something really foreign to me. As there's still another chance even after losing, there is comparatively less stress, and as a result, less nervousness.

Q: How's your form recently?
A: I'm still unable to rediscover the form I was at when I was at my peak, and I think there're still a lot of flaws. I'm able to win in tournament games because of my luck. I'm going to have to work really hard to improve my level of play to be properly prepared for my next games or the next GSL Code S.

Q: Any last things to add?
A: I want to thank Ace, Squirtle, Parting, Oz, and Avenge for practising with me. I also want to thank our sponsors BenQ, Red Bull, and Zowie.



StarTale_Parting
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PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

ST_PartinG lived up to his namesake, the "Terran Killer", today.

During the first three rounds of the RO32 on the sixth day of the Korean WCS, Parting took down MVP_sC 2-0. He took the first set with a miraculously composed defense, and he held off sC's offensive wave in the second to make it through to the RO16.

How do you feel about making it to the RO16?

I feel great. If I win just two more matches, I can reach the top 10. If I make it that far, I can make it to the Asia finals, so I feel quite confident. I will face either Jaedong or aLive in the next round, and I am okay with either one, as my PvZ is getting better.

SC's attack during the first set was formidable. What was your secret to defending it?

All Terrans are the same; that type of play is predictable. If I just play as I usually do, I can predict their timings and counter them. Even in the second set, I knew in advance that sC would pressure with marines.

During the RO4 of Code S last season, what is the reason that you lost to Mvp?

At that time, my win rate was quite good in practice games. I primarily only played with big-name players, so I felt like I could beat anybody. I think I lost because I got cocky; I don't let myself become overconfident anymore. From the beginning, my coach told me not to get full of myself, but I said "yes" only in word, but after losing to Mvp-hyung that way, all of that pride completely disappeared.

In the second set, did you predict how strong sC's attack would be?

That is true, but sC's play was still good. I predicted that he would hit a medivac timing, but I didn't see the follow-up coming.

In the first set, you held off the siege tank attack very well.

Terrans can no longer play only as they used to. I don't think siege tank compositions are bad in TvP; those creative and original types of play give other races more to think about.

You are very strong in the late game. You almost never lose games that last over 25 minutes.

If I don't die in the early game, I am confident that I will not lose later on. If I get 3 bases and manage to hold them, I feel that I am invincible. However, there are many players who spot and take advantage of my weaknesses in the early game. I am working hard to patch up that aspect of my play.

If you play against Jaedong in the RO16, what do you think it will be like?

Many fans think that this would be very exciting, so I really want this to happen. Since the opportunity could come soon, I would like to take it. Jaedong is a great player in Proleague; I think he is the most skilled player in the TBLS. I've watched Jaedong's matches very often. I think that Team 8 is one of the stronger teams; I have a good feeling about them, and I see them very often when I turn on my TV.

Are you looking towards reaching first place in this tournament?

I've moved forward in every Korean tournament, so I feel like I have momentum, but I still don't know. If I get past the RO16 of the winners' bracket, I think I will become much more confident. I will feel even more comfortable if I secure a spot in the WCS Asia finals.

Any last words?

As my final words, I would like to thank Hack, Sparta, Bomber, Sound, NSHoSeo's Sculp, and the currently teamless Sting, who have helped me practice. I may have forgotten a few players, so I would like to thank them too. I would also like to thank the observers, Yoon Jung-min and ST_Legend. They always help me calm down before my games with their entertaining chats. Please keep doing this for me in the future! Squirtle and Hack are also playing on Thursday, and I would like to face them in the RO8 of the winners' bracket. I would also like to thank our team's sponsors, BenQ, Zowie Gear, Joy Gear, and Red Bull.

Source: http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1260967&board=&category=13439&subcategory=&page=1



FnaticRC_aLive
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Q: How does it feel making it to the round of 16 of the winner's bracket?
A: I knew I had to win today's match, but I was quite stressed because Jaedong had such a reputation. I'm not usually the sort who gets stressed before games. I kept trying to calm myself down before the games, and to treat this game as if it were my first ever professional competition, and that relieved some of my nervousness. It wasn't too bad. Even though winning today was kind of granted, today's victory makes me happier than when I defeat Code S players.

Q: What were your thoughts after seeing the brackets?
A: To be honest, I was thinking to myself 'Why Jaedong'. There were so many other competitors that it could have been. It would have felt so much more comfortable if I were just matched up against other GSL competitors. It just gives me a weird feeling when I think about having to play against Kespa players. The people around me kept telling me I must not lose. That put a lot of pressure on me.

Q: Give an assessment of today's games.
A: If I ignored the ID, there isn't much of a difference between his skill level and the skill level of GSL players. His creep spread and his multi-tasking really amazed me. However, he didn't seem to be very good at defending against medivacs. Maybe it's just a lack of experience. In the second game, I just thought that I would win if I played according to my own style, and I chose the safe two barracks build.

Q: You put yourself at a nice advantage in the second game with your marines with the two barracks opening.
A: By right, this opening should not be able to give me such a good advantage. I guess it's because he did not think that I would be using this tactic. It seemed like he had wanted to use an all-in strategy. In the end, I attacked before his all-in could hit me. After that, the game just went the way I wanted it to.

Q: Were you intimidated by Jaedong's popularity?
A: To be honest, I don't have many fans even if my opponent wasn't Jaedong. It feels like I'm an invisible terran. I guess if I continue working hard and persevering, maybe more people would come to know of me.

Q: Your next round opponent is Parting.
A; I lost to him previously in Code A. That time, I lost really horribly because I had just came back from an overseas tournament. This time, I will prepare well. Even if I lose, I want to make the games entertaining. Since I defeated Jaedong, I cannot let his fans down.

Q: What are your aims for this tournament?
A: The first aim is to be in the top 10. After that, I'll take it a step at a time. I think very highly of this tournament, and I will prepare really well so I can get good results.

Q; Any last things to add?
A: I want to thank our sponsors Raidcall, Eizo, Steel Series, MSI. I also want to thank the fans who have been supporting me, as well as my team mates and my parents. Recently, my fans have been asking me why I am becoming more and more like invisible terran. But I'm very satisfied even just to have someone calling me invisible terran. I hope to be able to play against (T)Light soon since I've already become invisible terran.[T/N: Light is a player from Brood War, now SC2 with the nickname Invisible Terran. For more detail about Light's nickname, see http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129558]


[T/N: I left out a line in his answer for the last question. Not sure what it really means. Don't think it really affects it. Also, invisible can also be translated transparent I think. I go along with invisible terran since that's written as Light's nickname on Liquipedia.]
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
TheMenace
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany244 Posts
August 06 2012 16:55 GMT
#2
Curious build order choice in game 1 was just brilliant
BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
August 06 2012 16:56 GMT
#3
Q; You won the first game today with a really strong all-in attack.
My team mate recommended this build to me, and I chose to use it today. It was recommended to me by a team mate who just recently joined the team.

This just screams Suhosin -.-
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
August 06 2012 17:00 GMT
#4
On August 07 2012 01:56 BlindKill wrote:
Q; You won the first game today with a really strong all-in attack.
My team mate recommended this build to me, and I chose to use it today. It was recommended to me by a team mate who just recently joined the team.

This just screams Suhosin -.-

He said Avenge practiced with him, so it was probably him.

Poor Alive
Archile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States403 Posts
August 06 2012 17:01 GMT
#5
On August 07 2012 01:56 BlindKill wrote:
Q; You won the first game today with a really strong all-in attack.
My team mate recommended this build to me, and I chose to use it today. It was recommended to me by a team mate who just recently joined the team.

This just screams Suhosin -.-


my thoughts exactly
Just a bad player trying to be a little less bad
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 17:24:32
August 06 2012 17:18 GMT
#6
my fans have been asking me why I am becoming more and more like invisible terran.

"Boring Terran" fits him better.

come on PartinG, crush him in R2.
babybell
Profile Joined June 2011
776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 17:28:59
August 06 2012 17:18 GMT
#7
Hahhaha typical aLive saying he has no fans.

I'm a fan.
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
August 06 2012 17:23 GMT
#8
On August 07 2012 02:18 babybell wrote:
Hahhaha typical aLive saying he has no fans.

Well, he don't have many. How many even cared or remember when he won that IPL tournament? Nothing against aLive or anything, but the "invisible terran" is kinda true. He is no personality and he isn't one of the fan favorites like MMA and MVP, he just kinda is another skilled korean Terran that blends in with the rest. :<
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
14fighter
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States226 Posts
August 06 2012 17:30 GMT
#9
Yeah he's invisible because he has no personality.... Like I almost immediately turned off IPL 4 once it was nearing the end. All squirtle and alive did was stand there emotionless. It was so boring.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 17:32:55
August 06 2012 17:31 GMT
#10
On August 07 2012 02:23 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 02:18 babybell wrote:
Hahhaha typical aLive saying he has no fans.

Well, he don't have many. How many even cared or remember when he won that IPL tournament? Nothing against aLive or anything, but the "invisible terran" is kinda true. He is no personality and he isn't one of the fan favorites like MMA and MVP, he just kinda is another skilled korean Terran that blends in with the rest. :<

Everyone has personality but it's true that he doesn't show his emotions at all... which is pretty sad for western fans who like players who show their feelings. (and probably the eastern fans like it as well)
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 06 2012 17:34 GMT
#11
On August 07 2012 02:23 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 02:18 babybell wrote:
Hahhaha typical aLive saying he has no fans.

Well, he don't have many. How many even cared or remember when he won that IPL tournament? Nothing against aLive or anything, but the "invisible terran" is kinda true. He is no personality and he isn't one of the fan favorites like MMA and MVP, he just kinda is another skilled korean Terran that blends in with the rest. :<

I recall a TL article saying the girl at IPL4 got more fans than alive after the tournament that made me laugh when I read it.
Glorious SEA doto
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1683 Posts
August 06 2012 17:37 GMT
#12
alive the invisible boring terran T.T

IPL4 was obviously Squirtles show, and in the finals, his struggle and fight to comeback vs aLive, not aLive's victory

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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 06 2012 17:41 GMT
#13
IPL4 was overshadowed by GSTL final thingy and MKP's quest for world domination.

So the air went out after MKP got knocked out and everything after that was kind of a fuzz.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 06 2012 17:42 GMT
#14
Alive is a boss I like him. People who only care about personality are dumb. Skill > all.
arcticmonkey12
Profile Joined August 2012
3 Posts
August 06 2012 17:53 GMT
#15
GL to jaedong next time
BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
August 06 2012 17:54 GMT
#16
On August 07 2012 02:37 ShowTheLights wrote:
alive the invisible boring terran T.T

IPL4 was obviously Squirtles show, and in the finals, his struggle and fight to comeback vs aLive, not aLive's victory




Yup. Very few were actually rooting for aLive to win.
HoneyBadger.784 Diamond KR "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
August 06 2012 17:56 GMT
#17
On August 07 2012 02:42 Shiori wrote:
Alive is a boss I like him. People who only care about personality are dumb. Skill > all.

The best BW celebrities had it all. That's why people are so anxious for them to be back at the top.
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
August 06 2012 17:58 GMT
#18
Hahaha interestingly, his invisibility has gained him more replies on this thread than Curious Invisibility is personality too!
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 17:59:43
August 06 2012 17:59 GMT
#19
On August 07 2012 02:42 Shiori wrote:
Alive is a boss I like him. People who only care about personality are dumb. Skill > all.

"Hey, I'm Shiori, and my opinion matters more than anyone else. Anyone who disagrees with me is dumb."
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 06 2012 18:00 GMT
#20
On August 07 2012 02:58 Weirdkid wrote:
Hahaha interestingly, his invisibility has gained him more replies on this thread than Curious Invisibility is personality too!

Well to be fair curious is pretty invisible as well besides his mastery of -_-.
Glorious SEA doto
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
August 06 2012 18:07 GMT
#21
Sorry alive, invisible terran has been taken for a while, pick something else
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 18:10:01
August 06 2012 18:08 GMT
#22
Keep winning Alive. Someday people will notice it. Atleast people still don't ask who are you like someone who won GSL but I can't really remember what's his name. umm Plott something like that..
Lunchador
Profile Joined April 2010
United States776 Posts
August 06 2012 18:08 GMT
#23
On August 07 2012 03:07 Lyter wrote:
Sorry alive, invisible terran has been taken for a while, pick something else


By who...?
Defender of truth, justice, and noontime meals!
BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
August 06 2012 18:10 GMT
#24
I love Curious. The guy is humble, and possesses a nice dry humour that many Koreans don't have. Plus, the guy can win a sick macro game then hit you with an equally lethal all-in the next match. aLive.. possibly one of my least favourite players in SC2 along with MMA and DongRaeGu.

And before you castrate me for listing DRG.. theres only so many times I can take Fruitdealer, MC July and Nestea getting thrashed by him before I develop a grudge~.
HoneyBadger.784 Diamond KR "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 06 2012 18:18 GMT
#25
On August 07 2012 03:08 Lunchador wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 03:07 Lyter wrote:
Sorry alive, invisible terran has been taken for a while, pick something else


By who...?

(Wiki)Light
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Fluffboll
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden516 Posts
August 06 2012 18:23 GMT
#26
I like aLive, have done so since I first saw him play. Always bet for him even at the times where I think he'll lose
You need to construct additional pylons.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 06 2012 18:28 GMT
#27
On August 07 2012 02:59 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 02:42 Shiori wrote:
Alive is a boss I like him. People who only care about personality are dumb. Skill > all.

"Hey, I'm Shiori, and my opinion matters more than anyone else. Anyone who disagrees with me is dumb."

If you want personality go watch a comedy show. I watch Starcraft for the Starcraft. Personality is a highlight, but it's second fiddle to how good a player actually is. I'm sorry if you don't see it that way. Seems completely illogical to me. Maybe saying "dumb" was mean. But I definitely don't see why someone who prioritizes personality would even watch Starcraft to begin with. Might as well just go to TMZ and read interviews.

And I said people who only care about personality are dumb. Not even people who care about it a bit. If you write off a player because you think he's boring (even if he's a bonjwa) then you probably don't give a fuck about Starcraft.
jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
August 06 2012 18:28 GMT
#28
On August 07 2012 03:18 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 03:08 Lunchador wrote:
On August 07 2012 03:07 Lyter wrote:
Sorry alive, invisible terran has been taken for a while, pick something else


By who...?

(Wiki)Light


To be fair, aLive acknowledged that at the end of his response.
"I'm always going to survive. Only reason I can't survive is if I'm dead or something." --Mike Tyson
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 06 2012 18:30 GMT
#29
On August 07 2012 03:28 jobber123rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 03:18 ragz_gt wrote:
On August 07 2012 03:08 Lunchador wrote:
On August 07 2012 03:07 Lyter wrote:
Sorry alive, invisible terran has been taken for a while, pick something else


By who...?

(Wiki)Light


To be fair, aLive acknowledged that at the end of his response.


Yeah, just answer his question.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
August 06 2012 18:32 GMT
#30
Am I the only one who was rooting for Alive in this series? Or in the IPL finals?
I like that guy. Maybe his playstyle is not the most interesting but he's a safe and solid terran. You can learn a lot from him. Maybe he doesn't show his personality as much as MC. But he has talent and heart and for me that's enough to cheer for him.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 06 2012 18:37 GMT
#31
I was rooting for him both time, which is different from remembering him all the time.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
August 06 2012 18:40 GMT
#32
I think a more elaborate T/N about the Light = Invisible terran joke might be worthwhile (don't know if I could do it justice). Maybe.

Thanks for the translation! He's going to lose to Parting!
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
August 06 2012 18:44 GMT
#33
On August 07 2012 02:34 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 02:23 Gosi wrote:
On August 07 2012 02:18 babybell wrote:
Hahhaha typical aLive saying he has no fans.

Well, he don't have many. How many even cared or remember when he won that IPL tournament? Nothing against aLive or anything, but the "invisible terran" is kinda true. He is no personality and he isn't one of the fan favorites like MMA and MVP, he just kinda is another skilled korean Terran that blends in with the rest. :<

I recall a TL article saying the girl at IPL4 got more fans than alive after the tournament that made me laugh when I read it.


Who, Lani_bot? lol
"I'm always going to survive. Only reason I can't survive is if I'm dead or something." --Mike Tyson
Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 18:46:02
August 06 2012 18:45 GMT
#34
Honestly I believe the problem with Alive is not that he has "no personality" but rather the fact that he plays T, you have to consider that the dominant race over the course of those 2 years of starcraft was indeed terran with more than half the gold medals and several periods of 1-3 months when T was practically unbeatable at a pro level.
You have so many korean terrans over these 2 years that have results better or similar to Alive ( MVP, MMA, MKP, Nada, Jjakji, Teja, Polt... the list goes fucking on )
Now lets look at the korean protosses that would have been on the same level with Squirtle in terms of results if he was the one to win that IPL... MC, Hero, recently Seed, pretty much it. Wonder why people were cheering for Squirtle ?

Its the same thing happening with Z recently, a lot of "good" zergs are starting to go unnoticed because zergs are winning so much in the last few months.
A good strategy means leaving your opponent room to make mistakes
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
August 06 2012 18:48 GMT
#35
On August 07 2012 03:44 jobber123rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 02:34 Fusilero wrote:
On August 07 2012 02:23 Gosi wrote:
On August 07 2012 02:18 babybell wrote:
Hahhaha typical aLive saying he has no fans.

Well, he don't have many. How many even cared or remember when he won that IPL tournament? Nothing against aLive or anything, but the "invisible terran" is kinda true. He is no personality and he isn't one of the fan favorites like MMA and MVP, he just kinda is another skilled korean Terran that blends in with the rest. :<

I recall a TL article saying the girl at IPL4 got more fans than alive after the tournament that made me laugh when I read it.


Who, Lani_bot? lol


Smix, I think.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
August 06 2012 18:50 GMT
#36
On August 07 2012 01:56 BlindKill wrote:
Q; You won the first game today with a really strong all-in attack.
My team mate recommended this build to me, and I chose to use it today. It was recommended to me by a team mate who just recently joined the team.

This just screams Suhosin -.-


Why not Life or Pet?
#TheOneTrueDong
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
August 06 2012 18:55 GMT
#37
On August 07 2012 03:08 Lunchador wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 03:07 Lyter wrote:
Sorry alive, invisible terran has been taken for a while, pick something else


By who...?


I think I have your sense of humor
Jaedong :3
LongBow
Profile Joined May 2012
United States265 Posts
August 06 2012 18:57 GMT
#38
Thanks for the interviews!
a3den
Profile Joined April 2012
704 Posts
August 06 2012 19:03 GMT
#39
On August 07 2012 03:50 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 01:56 BlindKill wrote:
Q; You won the first game today with a really strong all-in attack.
My team mate recommended this build to me, and I chose to use it today. It was recommended to me by a team mate who just recently joined the team.

This just screams Suhosin -.-


Why not Life or Pet?


I thought about Life too
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
August 06 2012 19:08 GMT
#40
On August 07 2012 03:55 ReketSomething wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 03:08 Lunchador wrote:
On August 07 2012 03:07 Lyter wrote:
Sorry alive, invisible terran has been taken for a while, pick something else


By who...?


I think I have your sense of humor


I spotted that real quick, but I don't think it's intended. Lol.
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
August 06 2012 19:10 GMT
#41
I always root for aLive! I think he's a great player!
I think he's often forgotten about. Hopefully we will see his fan base grow if we see him continuing through the WCS!
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 06 2012 19:22 GMT
#42
Awww, aLive made me sad with this interview.
I tweeted him some nice things. I hope he realize we like him. His Mech TvT has always been a strong point to make him unique as a player to me.

On the other hand Curious is still the Curious we know. Being -_- even when he use the most fucked up builds from sushosin.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 19:52:34
August 06 2012 19:43 GMT
#43
I am a huge PartinG fanboy, so I took the time to translate his own interview. This is my first time, so please proofread this and tell me if I messed up anything!

PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

ST_PartinG lived up to his namesake, the "Terran Killer", today.

During the first three rounds of the RO32 on the sixth day of the Korean WCS, Parting took down MVP_sC 2-0. He took the first set with a miraculously composed defense, and he held off sC's offensive wave in the second to make it through to the RO16.

How do you feel about making it to the RO16?

I feel great. If I win just two more matches, I can reach the top 10. If I make it that far, I can make it to the Asia finals, so I feel quite confident. I will face either Jaedong or aLive in the next round, and I am okay with either one, as my PvZ is getting better.

SC's attack during the first set was formidable. What was your secret to defending it?

All Terrans are the same; that type of play is predictable. If I just play as I usually do, I can predict their timings and counter them. Even in the second set, I knew in advance that sC would pressure with marines.

During the RO4 of Code S last season, what is the reason that you lost to Mvp?

At that time, my win rate was quite good in practice games. I primarily only played with big-name players, so I felt like I could beat anybody (???, please correct if wrong). I think I lost because I got cocky; I don't let myself become overconfident anymore. From the beginning, my coach told me not to get full of myself, but I said "yes" only in word, but after losing to Mvp-hyung that way, all of that pride completely disappeared.

In the second set, did you predict how strong sC's attack would be?

That is true, but sC's play was still good. I predicted that he would hit a medivac timing, but I didn't see the follow-up coming.

In the first set, you held off the siege tank attack very well.

Terrans can no longer play only as they used to. I don't think siege tank compositions are bad in TvP; those creative and original types of play give other races more to think about.

You are very strong in the late game. You almost never lose games that last over 25 minutes.

If I don't die in the early game, I am confident that I will not lose later on. If I get 3 bases and manage to hold them, I feel that I am invincible. However, there are many players who spot and take advantage of my weaknesses in the early game. I am working hard to patch up that aspect of my play.

If you play against Jaedong in the RO16, what do you think it will be like?

Many fans think that this would be very exciting, so I really want this to happen. Since the opportunity could come soon, I would like to take it. Jaedong is a great player in Proleague; I think he is the most skilled player in the TBLS. I've watched Jaedong's matches very often. I think that Team 8 is one of the stronger teams; I have a good feeling about them, and I see them very often when I turn on my TV (???, could be inaccurate).

Are you looking towards reaching first place in this tournament?

I've moved forward in every Korean tournament, so I feel like I have momentum, but I still don't know. If I get past the RO16 of the winners' bracket, I think I will become much more confident. I will feel even more comfortable if I secure a spot in the WCS Asia finals.

Any last words?

As my final words, I would like to thank Hack, Sparta, Bomber, Sound, NSHoSeo's Sculp, and the currently teamless Sting, who have helped me practice. I may have forgotten a few players, so I would like to thank them too. I would also like to thank the observers, Yoon Jung-min and ST_Legend. They always help me calm down before my games with their entertaining chats. Please keep doing this for me in the future! Squirtle and Hack are also playing on Thursday, and I would like to face them in the RO8 of the winners' bracket. I would also like to thank our team's sponsors, BenQ, Zowie Gear, Joy Gear, and Red Bull (???, could have gotten the sponsors' names wrong).

Source: http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1260967&board=&category=13439&subcategory=&page=1
(ノ´∀`*)ノ ♪ ♫ ヽ(´ー`)ノ ♪ ♫ (✌゚∀゚)☞ ♪ ♫ ヽ(´ー`)ノ ♫ ♫ (ノ´_ゝ`)ノ彡 ┻━┻
Darion
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada265 Posts
August 06 2012 19:50 GMT
#44
On August 07 2012 03:50 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 01:56 BlindKill wrote:
Q; You won the first game today with a really strong all-in attack.
My team mate recommended this build to me, and I chose to use it today. It was recommended to me by a team mate who just recently joined the team.

This just screams Suhosin -.-


Why not Life or Pet?


Because Suhosin plays wayyyyy more cheesy than the other ZeNEX zergs.
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
August 06 2012 19:57 GMT
#45
PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

he wouldn't have said that if they faced each other in SC1 :D
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randoomguy
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden82 Posts
August 06 2012 20:05 GMT
#46
On August 07 2012 04:57 NexCa wrote:
PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

he wouldn't have said that if they faced each other in SC1 :D


give parting 10 years and stop the time for jeadong under the mean time and then we will see what happens,why is every1 saying its obvious that bw pros will not pwn in sc2 after 6 months of practise when sc2 pros has been playing for 2 years?well then why don't we just say that the other way around aswell? which has an even bigger cap
FAIRY TAIL WILL ALWAYS WATCH OVER ME
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
August 06 2012 20:09 GMT
#47
On August 07 2012 05:05 randoomguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 04:57 NexCa wrote:
PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

he wouldn't have said that if they faced each other in SC1 :D


give parting 10 years and stop the time for jeadong under the mean time and then we will see what happens,why is every1 saying its obvious that bw pros will not pwn in sc2 after 6 months of practise when sc2 pros has been playing for 2 years?well then why don't we just say that the other way around aswell? which has an even bigger cap


Maybe because most of current SC2 pros were already BW pros for years? I really know very little about SC2 pro-scene, but I've read somewhere the majority of GSL players were unsuccessful BW pros.

I know MC used to be called flounder in BW xD
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
August 06 2012 20:09 GMT
#48
Alive, I'm your biggest fan.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
August 06 2012 20:14 GMT
#49
On August 07 2012 04:43 wozzot wrote:
I am a huge PartinG fanboy, so I took the time to translate his own interview. This is my first time, so please proofread this and tell me if I messed up anything!

+ Show Spoiler +
PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

ST_PartinG lived up to his namesake, the "Terran Killer", today.

During the first three rounds of the RO32 on the sixth day of the Korean WCS, Parting took down MVP_sC 2-0. He took the first set with a miraculously composed defense, and he held off sC's offensive wave in the second to make it through to the RO16.

How do you feel about making it to the RO16?

I feel great. If I win just two more matches, I can reach the top 10. If I make it that far, I can make it to the Asia finals, so I feel quite confident. I will face either Jaedong or aLive in the next round, and I am okay with either one, as my PvZ is getting better.

SC's attack during the first set was formidable. What was your secret to defending it?

All Terrans are the same; that type of play is predictable. If I just play as I usually do, I can predict their timings and counter them. Even in the second set, I knew in advance that sC would pressure with marines.

During the RO4 of Code S last season, what is the reason that you lost to Mvp?

At that time, my win rate was quite good in practice games. I primarily only played with big-name players, so I felt like I could beat anybody (???, please correct if wrong). I think I lost because I got cocky; I don't let myself become overconfident anymore. From the beginning, my coach told me not to get full of myself, but I said "yes" only in word, but after losing to Mvp-hyung that way, all of that pride completely disappeared.

In the second set, did you predict how strong sC's attack would be?

That is true, but sC's play was still good. I predicted that he would hit a medivac timing, but I didn't see the follow-up coming.

In the first set, you held off the siege tank attack very well.

Terrans can no longer play only as they used to. I don't think siege tank compositions are bad in TvP; those creative and original types of play give other races more to think about.

You are very strong in the late game. You almost never lose games that last over 25 minutes.

If I don't die in the early game, I am confident that I will not lose later on. If I get 3 bases and manage to hold them, I feel that I am invincible. However, there are many players who spot and take advantage of my weaknesses in the early game. I am working hard to patch up that aspect of my play.

If you play against Jaedong in the RO16, what do you think it will be like?

Many fans think that this would be very exciting, so I really want this to happen. Since the opportunity could come soon, I would like to take it. Jaedong is a great player in Proleague; I think he is the most skilled player in the TBLS. I've watched Jaedong's matches very often. I think that Team 8 is one of the stronger teams; I have a good feeling about them, and I see them very often when I turn on my TV (???, could be inaccurate).

Are you looking towards reaching first place in this tournament?

I've moved forward in every Korean tournament, so I feel like I have momentum, but I still don't know. If I get past the RO16 of the winners' bracket, I think I will become much more confident. I will feel even more comfortable if I secure a spot in the WCS Asia finals.

Any last words?

As my final words, I would like to thank Hack, Sparta, Bomber, Sound, NSHoSeo's Sculp, and the currently teamless Sting, who have helped me practice. I may have forgotten a few players, so I would like to thank them too. I would also like to thank the observers, Yoon Jung-min and ST_Legend. They always help me calm down before my games with their entertaining chats. Please keep doing this for me in the future! Squirtle and Hack are also playing on Thursday, and I would like to face them in the RO8 of the winners' bracket. I would also like to thank our team's sponsors, BenQ, Zowie Gear, Joy Gear, and Red Bull (???, could have gotten the sponsors' names wrong).

Source: http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1260967&board=&category=13439&subcategory=&page=1


I'll add this to the OP
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 06 2012 20:15 GMT
#50
On August 07 2012 05:09 fabiano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 05:05 randoomguy wrote:
On August 07 2012 04:57 NexCa wrote:
PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

he wouldn't have said that if they faced each other in SC1 :D


give parting 10 years and stop the time for jeadong under the mean time and then we will see what happens,why is every1 saying its obvious that bw pros will not pwn in sc2 after 6 months of practise when sc2 pros has been playing for 2 years?well then why don't we just say that the other way around aswell? which has an even bigger cap


Maybe because most of current SC2 pros were already BW pros for years? I really know very little about SC2 pro-scene, but I've read somewhere the majority of GSL players were unsuccessful BW pros.

I know MC used to be called flounder in BW xD

Isn't Parting super-young?

(Just checked, he's 17 atm. I doubt he was a BW pro.)
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
August 06 2012 20:17 GMT
#51
Must be Line who told Curious the all-in build.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
August 06 2012 20:17 GMT
#52
I feel bad for aLive, he seems kind of bitter about having almost no fans
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
August 06 2012 20:22 GMT
#53
On August 07 2012 05:14 Weirdkid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 04:43 wozzot wrote:
I am a huge PartinG fanboy, so I took the time to translate his own interview. This is my first time, so please proofread this and tell me if I messed up anything!

+ Show Spoiler +
PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

ST_PartinG lived up to his namesake, the "Terran Killer", today.

During the first three rounds of the RO32 on the sixth day of the Korean WCS, Parting took down MVP_sC 2-0. He took the first set with a miraculously composed defense, and he held off sC's offensive wave in the second to make it through to the RO16.

How do you feel about making it to the RO16?

I feel great. If I win just two more matches, I can reach the top 10. If I make it that far, I can make it to the Asia finals, so I feel quite confident. I will face either Jaedong or aLive in the next round, and I am okay with either one, as my PvZ is getting better.

SC's attack during the first set was formidable. What was your secret to defending it?

All Terrans are the same; that type of play is predictable. If I just play as I usually do, I can predict their timings and counter them. Even in the second set, I knew in advance that sC would pressure with marines.

During the RO4 of Code S last season, what is the reason that you lost to Mvp?

At that time, my win rate was quite good in practice games. I primarily only played with big-name players, so I felt like I could beat anybody (???, please correct if wrong). I think I lost because I got cocky; I don't let myself become overconfident anymore. From the beginning, my coach told me not to get full of myself, but I said "yes" only in word, but after losing to Mvp-hyung that way, all of that pride completely disappeared.

In the second set, did you predict how strong sC's attack would be?

That is true, but sC's play was still good. I predicted that he would hit a medivac timing, but I didn't see the follow-up coming.

In the first set, you held off the siege tank attack very well.

Terrans can no longer play only as they used to. I don't think siege tank compositions are bad in TvP; those creative and original types of play give other races more to think about.

You are very strong in the late game. You almost never lose games that last over 25 minutes.

If I don't die in the early game, I am confident that I will not lose later on. If I get 3 bases and manage to hold them, I feel that I am invincible. However, there are many players who spot and take advantage of my weaknesses in the early game. I am working hard to patch up that aspect of my play.

If you play against Jaedong in the RO16, what do you think it will be like?

Many fans think that this would be very exciting, so I really want this to happen. Since the opportunity could come soon, I would like to take it. Jaedong is a great player in Proleague; I think he is the most skilled player in the TBLS. I've watched Jaedong's matches very often. I think that Team 8 is one of the stronger teams; I have a good feeling about them, and I see them very often when I turn on my TV (???, could be inaccurate).

Are you looking towards reaching first place in this tournament?

I've moved forward in every Korean tournament, so I feel like I have momentum, but I still don't know. If I get past the RO16 of the winners' bracket, I think I will become much more confident. I will feel even more comfortable if I secure a spot in the WCS Asia finals.

Any last words?

As my final words, I would like to thank Hack, Sparta, Bomber, Sound, NSHoSeo's Sculp, and the currently teamless Sting, who have helped me practice. I may have forgotten a few players, so I would like to thank them too. I would also like to thank the observers, Yoon Jung-min and ST_Legend. They always help me calm down before my games with their entertaining chats. Please keep doing this for me in the future! Squirtle and Hack are also playing on Thursday, and I would like to face them in the RO8 of the winners' bracket. I would also like to thank our team's sponsors, BenQ, Zowie Gear, Joy Gear, and Red Bull (???, could have gotten the sponsors' names wrong).

Source: http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1260967&board=&category=13439&subcategory=&page=1


I'll add this to the OP


Could you remove the bits in italic for the OP? ty
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Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
August 06 2012 20:24 GMT
#54
On August 07 2012 05:22 wozzot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 05:14 Weirdkid wrote:
On August 07 2012 04:43 wozzot wrote:
I am a huge PartinG fanboy, so I took the time to translate his own interview. This is my first time, so please proofread this and tell me if I messed up anything!

+ Show Spoiler +
PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

ST_PartinG lived up to his namesake, the "Terran Killer", today.

During the first three rounds of the RO32 on the sixth day of the Korean WCS, Parting took down MVP_sC 2-0. He took the first set with a miraculously composed defense, and he held off sC's offensive wave in the second to make it through to the RO16.

How do you feel about making it to the RO16?

I feel great. If I win just two more matches, I can reach the top 10. If I make it that far, I can make it to the Asia finals, so I feel quite confident. I will face either Jaedong or aLive in the next round, and I am okay with either one, as my PvZ is getting better.

SC's attack during the first set was formidable. What was your secret to defending it?

All Terrans are the same; that type of play is predictable. If I just play as I usually do, I can predict their timings and counter them. Even in the second set, I knew in advance that sC would pressure with marines.

During the RO4 of Code S last season, what is the reason that you lost to Mvp?

At that time, my win rate was quite good in practice games. I primarily only played with big-name players, so I felt like I could beat anybody (???, please correct if wrong). I think I lost because I got cocky; I don't let myself become overconfident anymore. From the beginning, my coach told me not to get full of myself, but I said "yes" only in word, but after losing to Mvp-hyung that way, all of that pride completely disappeared.

In the second set, did you predict how strong sC's attack would be?

That is true, but sC's play was still good. I predicted that he would hit a medivac timing, but I didn't see the follow-up coming.

In the first set, you held off the siege tank attack very well.

Terrans can no longer play only as they used to. I don't think siege tank compositions are bad in TvP; those creative and original types of play give other races more to think about.

You are very strong in the late game. You almost never lose games that last over 25 minutes.

If I don't die in the early game, I am confident that I will not lose later on. If I get 3 bases and manage to hold them, I feel that I am invincible. However, there are many players who spot and take advantage of my weaknesses in the early game. I am working hard to patch up that aspect of my play.

If you play against Jaedong in the RO16, what do you think it will be like?

Many fans think that this would be very exciting, so I really want this to happen. Since the opportunity could come soon, I would like to take it. Jaedong is a great player in Proleague; I think he is the most skilled player in the TBLS. I've watched Jaedong's matches very often. I think that Team 8 is one of the stronger teams; I have a good feeling about them, and I see them very often when I turn on my TV (???, could be inaccurate).

Are you looking towards reaching first place in this tournament?

I've moved forward in every Korean tournament, so I feel like I have momentum, but I still don't know. If I get past the RO16 of the winners' bracket, I think I will become much more confident. I will feel even more comfortable if I secure a spot in the WCS Asia finals.

Any last words?

As my final words, I would like to thank Hack, Sparta, Bomber, Sound, NSHoSeo's Sculp, and the currently teamless Sting, who have helped me practice. I may have forgotten a few players, so I would like to thank them too. I would also like to thank the observers, Yoon Jung-min and ST_Legend. They always help me calm down before my games with their entertaining chats. Please keep doing this for me in the future! Squirtle and Hack are also playing on Thursday, and I would like to face them in the RO8 of the winners' bracket. I would also like to thank our team's sponsors, BenQ, Zowie Gear, Joy Gear, and Red Bull (???, could have gotten the sponsors' names wrong).

Source: http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1260967&board=&category=13439&subcategory=&page=1


I'll add this to the OP


Could you remove the bits in italic for the OP? ty


Done!
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 06 2012 20:28 GMT
#55
Parting: As my final words, I would like to thank Hack, Sparta, Bomber, Sound, NSHoSeo's Sculp, and the currently teamless Sting

Startale Sting incoming?
MrChupee
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia161 Posts
August 06 2012 20:29 GMT
#56
invisible terran ;_;

don't worry, we are all brothers when we bring our infantry to the table!
through high storm or baneling spurts...forever soldiering on
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 06 2012 20:38 GMT
#57
On August 07 2012 05:15 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 05:09 fabiano wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:05 randoomguy wrote:
On August 07 2012 04:57 NexCa wrote:
PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

he wouldn't have said that if they faced each other in SC1 :D


give parting 10 years and stop the time for jeadong under the mean time and then we will see what happens,why is every1 saying its obvious that bw pros will not pwn in sc2 after 6 months of practise when sc2 pros has been playing for 2 years?well then why don't we just say that the other way around aswell? which has an even bigger cap


Maybe because most of current SC2 pros were already BW pros for years? I really know very little about SC2 pro-scene, but I've read somewhere the majority of GSL players were unsuccessful BW pros.

I know MC used to be called flounder in BW xD

Isn't Parting super-young?

(Just checked, he's 17 atm. I doubt he was a BW pro.)


Alot people played BW, which is expected since the short duration of SC2. You really can't expect people to start play game after SC2 come out, and BW is the natural choice. However most of them did not play BW long enough at high level to really stand out.

Nestea, MMA, TheSTC, GanZi, SuperNoVa, FD, Tester can be said to be B Teamers
A couple more such as ForGG were mid tier
Then you get BoxeR, NaDa, July, Rainbow

Alot more (which include MC, MKP, HerO, PuMa, Genius, LosirA, Puzzle, Ryung etc) spent some time in BW pro team but too short to amount to anything
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 06 2012 20:59 GMT
#58
On August 07 2012 02:56 0neder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 02:42 Shiori wrote:
Alive is a boss I like him. People who only care about personality are dumb. Skill > all.

The best BW celebrities had it all. That's why people are so anxious for them to be back at the top.

Plenty of SC2 players have it all too. MC for example
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 06 2012 21:01 GMT
#59
On August 07 2012 04:03 a3den wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 03:50 TommyP wrote:
On August 07 2012 01:56 BlindKill wrote:
Q; You won the first game today with a really strong all-in attack.
My team mate recommended this build to me, and I chose to use it today. It was recommended to me by a team mate who just recently joined the team.

This just screams Suhosin -.-


Why not Life or Pet?


I thought about Life too

Line is the one who loves to cheese in retarded ways(Especially against fan favorites it seems to me )
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 21:20:41
August 06 2012 21:20 GMT
#60
On August 07 2012 01:53 Weirdkid wrote:
StarTale_Curious
My team mate recommended this build to me, and I chose to use it today. It was recommended to me by a team mate who just recently joined the team.

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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
August 06 2012 21:29 GMT
#61
On August 07 2012 03:45 Aterons_toss wrote:
Honestly I believe the problem with Alive is not that he has "no personality" but rather the fact that he plays T, you have to consider that the dominant race over the course of those 2 years of starcraft was indeed terran with more than half the gold medals and several periods of 1-3 months when T was practically unbeatable at a pro level.
You have so many korean terrans over these 2 years that have results better or similar to Alive ( MVP, MMA, MKP, Nada, Jjakji, Teja, Polt... the list goes fucking on )
Now lets look at the korean protosses that would have been on the same level with Squirtle in terms of results if he was the one to win that IPL... MC, Hero, recently Seed, pretty much it. Wonder why people were cheering for Squirtle ?

Its the same thing happening with Z recently, a lot of "good" zergs are starting to go unnoticed because zergs are winning so much in the last few months.


You bring up a good example in Jjakji. I think it's fair to say only the casual fanbase knew next to nothing about him going up into that GSL Finals. IIRC, the LR thread going in was mostly pro-Leenock and after the matches everyone was pretty pumped after seeing some amazing games. Jjakji won some fans not by showing his personality through any fancy interviews, but through his play. The problem with Alive is that both his interviews and his play is uninspired. I still can't remember him doing anything really unique during the period you're referring to as he seemed to be just refining borrowed strats.

Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 06 2012 21:38 GMT
#62
On August 07 2012 06:29 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 03:45 Aterons_toss wrote:
Honestly I believe the problem with Alive is not that he has "no personality" but rather the fact that he plays T, you have to consider that the dominant race over the course of those 2 years of starcraft was indeed terran with more than half the gold medals and several periods of 1-3 months when T was practically unbeatable at a pro level.
You have so many korean terrans over these 2 years that have results better or similar to Alive ( MVP, MMA, MKP, Nada, Jjakji, Teja, Polt... the list goes fucking on )
Now lets look at the korean protosses that would have been on the same level with Squirtle in terms of results if he was the one to win that IPL... MC, Hero, recently Seed, pretty much it. Wonder why people were cheering for Squirtle ?

Its the same thing happening with Z recently, a lot of "good" zergs are starting to go unnoticed because zergs are winning so much in the last few months.


You bring up a good example in Jjakji. I think it's fair to say only the casual fanbase knew next to nothing about him going up into that GSL Finals. IIRC, the LR thread going in was mostly pro-Leenock and after the matches everyone was pretty pumped after seeing some amazing games. Jjakji won some fans not by showing his personality through any fancy interviews, but through his play. The problem with Alive is that both his interviews and his play is uninspired. I still can't remember him doing anything really unique during the period you're referring to as he seemed to be just refining borrowed strats.


Uninspired is probably the wrong word to use. Playing a solid style and winning with it isn't uninspired. It's just not especially innovative. Innovation for the sake of innovation may win you fans, but more often than not it loses you games (see pretty much every "creative" player of the past year, with a couple of exceptions).
BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
August 07 2012 00:48 GMT
#63
aLive has used some nonstandard builds here and there. I remember a few wacky 1-1-1's and ghost rushes that he used to do all the time on Crossfire in particular. While he hasn't been the most creative he isn't "uninspired", thats for sure.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 07 2012 01:17 GMT
#64
On August 07 2012 05:38 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 05:15 babylon wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:09 fabiano wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:05 randoomguy wrote:
On August 07 2012 04:57 NexCa wrote:
PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

he wouldn't have said that if they faced each other in SC1 :D


give parting 10 years and stop the time for jeadong under the mean time and then we will see what happens,why is every1 saying its obvious that bw pros will not pwn in sc2 after 6 months of practise when sc2 pros has been playing for 2 years?well then why don't we just say that the other way around aswell? which has an even bigger cap


Maybe because most of current SC2 pros were already BW pros for years? I really know very little about SC2 pro-scene, but I've read somewhere the majority of GSL players were unsuccessful BW pros.

I know MC used to be called flounder in BW xD

Isn't Parting super-young?

(Just checked, he's 17 atm. I doubt he was a BW pro.)


Alot people played BW, which is expected since the short duration of SC2. You really can't expect people to start play game after SC2 come out, and BW is the natural choice. However most of them did not play BW long enough at high level to really stand out.

Nestea, MMA, TheSTC, GanZi, SuperNoVa, FD, Tester can be said to be B Teamers
A couple more such as ForGG were mid tier
Then you get BoxeR, NaDa, July, Rainbow

Alot more (which include MC, MKP, HerO, PuMa, Genius, LosirA, Puzzle, Ryung etc) spent some time in BW pro team but too short to amount to anything


Was ForGG really mid-tier? He did win the Arena MSL in 2008, which was a huge accomplishment, beating Flash and Jaedong both when they were dominant.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 07 2012 01:18 GMT
#65
On August 07 2012 10:17 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 05:38 ragz_gt wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:15 babylon wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:09 fabiano wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:05 randoomguy wrote:
On August 07 2012 04:57 NexCa wrote:
PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

he wouldn't have said that if they faced each other in SC1 :D


give parting 10 years and stop the time for jeadong under the mean time and then we will see what happens,why is every1 saying its obvious that bw pros will not pwn in sc2 after 6 months of practise when sc2 pros has been playing for 2 years?well then why don't we just say that the other way around aswell? which has an even bigger cap


Maybe because most of current SC2 pros were already BW pros for years? I really know very little about SC2 pro-scene, but I've read somewhere the majority of GSL players were unsuccessful BW pros.

I know MC used to be called flounder in BW xD

Isn't Parting super-young?

(Just checked, he's 17 atm. I doubt he was a BW pro.)


Alot people played BW, which is expected since the short duration of SC2. You really can't expect people to start play game after SC2 come out, and BW is the natural choice. However most of them did not play BW long enough at high level to really stand out.

Nestea, MMA, TheSTC, GanZi, SuperNoVa, FD, Tester can be said to be B Teamers
A couple more such as ForGG were mid tier
Then you get BoxeR, NaDa, July, Rainbow

Alot more (which include MC, MKP, HerO, PuMa, Genius, LosirA, Puzzle, Ryung etc) spent some time in BW pro team but too short to amount to anything


Was ForGG really mid-tier? He did win the Arena MSL in 2008, which was a huge accomplishment, beating Flash and Jaedong both when they were dominant.

Four years ago.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 07 2012 01:22 GMT
#66
On August 07 2012 10:18 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 10:17 Bagration wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:38 ragz_gt wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:15 babylon wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:09 fabiano wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:05 randoomguy wrote:
On August 07 2012 04:57 NexCa wrote:
PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

he wouldn't have said that if they faced each other in SC1 :D


give parting 10 years and stop the time for jeadong under the mean time and then we will see what happens,why is every1 saying its obvious that bw pros will not pwn in sc2 after 6 months of practise when sc2 pros has been playing for 2 years?well then why don't we just say that the other way around aswell? which has an even bigger cap


Maybe because most of current SC2 pros were already BW pros for years? I really know very little about SC2 pro-scene, but I've read somewhere the majority of GSL players were unsuccessful BW pros.

I know MC used to be called flounder in BW xD

Isn't Parting super-young?

(Just checked, he's 17 atm. I doubt he was a BW pro.)


Alot people played BW, which is expected since the short duration of SC2. You really can't expect people to start play game after SC2 come out, and BW is the natural choice. However most of them did not play BW long enough at high level to really stand out.

Nestea, MMA, TheSTC, GanZi, SuperNoVa, FD, Tester can be said to be B Teamers
A couple more such as ForGG were mid tier
Then you get BoxeR, NaDa, July, Rainbow

Alot more (which include MC, MKP, HerO, PuMa, Genius, LosirA, Puzzle, Ryung etc) spent some time in BW pro team but too short to amount to anything


Was ForGG really mid-tier? He did win the Arena MSL in 2008, which was a huge accomplishment, beating Flash and Jaedong both when they were dominant.

Four years ago.


Starleague titles are timeless man! :p
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
August 07 2012 01:22 GMT
#67
On August 07 2012 10:18 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 10:17 Bagration wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:38 ragz_gt wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:15 babylon wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:09 fabiano wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:05 randoomguy wrote:
On August 07 2012 04:57 NexCa wrote:
PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

he wouldn't have said that if they faced each other in SC1 :D


give parting 10 years and stop the time for jeadong under the mean time and then we will see what happens,why is every1 saying its obvious that bw pros will not pwn in sc2 after 6 months of practise when sc2 pros has been playing for 2 years?well then why don't we just say that the other way around aswell? which has an even bigger cap


Maybe because most of current SC2 pros were already BW pros for years? I really know very little about SC2 pro-scene, but I've read somewhere the majority of GSL players were unsuccessful BW pros.

I know MC used to be called flounder in BW xD

Isn't Parting super-young?

(Just checked, he's 17 atm. I doubt he was a BW pro.)


Alot people played BW, which is expected since the short duration of SC2. You really can't expect people to start play game after SC2 come out, and BW is the natural choice. However most of them did not play BW long enough at high level to really stand out.

Nestea, MMA, TheSTC, GanZi, SuperNoVa, FD, Tester can be said to be B Teamers
A couple more such as ForGG were mid tier
Then you get BoxeR, NaDa, July, Rainbow

Alot more (which include MC, MKP, HerO, PuMa, Genius, LosirA, Puzzle, Ryung etc) spent some time in BW pro team but too short to amount to anything


Was ForGG really mid-tier? He did win the Arena MSL in 2008, which was a huge accomplishment, beating Flash and Jaedong both when they were dominant.

Four years ago.


Which means he was top-tier at one point. Just because it was four years ago doesn't mean he lacks to talent to repeat. Its the same thing with hockey fans.. some people are just obsessed and enamoured with the immediate past and present results. Don't count out the guys who have been there. They have the experience and can easily do it again.
HoneyBadger.784 Diamond KR "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 07 2012 01:24 GMT
#68
On August 07 2012 10:22 BrassMonkey27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 10:18 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 10:17 Bagration wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:38 ragz_gt wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:15 babylon wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:09 fabiano wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:05 randoomguy wrote:
On August 07 2012 04:57 NexCa wrote:
PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

he wouldn't have said that if they faced each other in SC1 :D


give parting 10 years and stop the time for jeadong under the mean time and then we will see what happens,why is every1 saying its obvious that bw pros will not pwn in sc2 after 6 months of practise when sc2 pros has been playing for 2 years?well then why don't we just say that the other way around aswell? which has an even bigger cap


Maybe because most of current SC2 pros were already BW pros for years? I really know very little about SC2 pro-scene, but I've read somewhere the majority of GSL players were unsuccessful BW pros.

I know MC used to be called flounder in BW xD

Isn't Parting super-young?

(Just checked, he's 17 atm. I doubt he was a BW pro.)


Alot people played BW, which is expected since the short duration of SC2. You really can't expect people to start play game after SC2 come out, and BW is the natural choice. However most of them did not play BW long enough at high level to really stand out.

Nestea, MMA, TheSTC, GanZi, SuperNoVa, FD, Tester can be said to be B Teamers
A couple more such as ForGG were mid tier
Then you get BoxeR, NaDa, July, Rainbow

Alot more (which include MC, MKP, HerO, PuMa, Genius, LosirA, Puzzle, Ryung etc) spent some time in BW pro team but too short to amount to anything


Was ForGG really mid-tier? He did win the Arena MSL in 2008, which was a huge accomplishment, beating Flash and Jaedong both when they were dominant.

Four years ago.


Which means he was top-tier at one point. Just because it was four years ago doesn't mean he lacks to talent to repeat. Its the same thing with hockey fans.. some people are just obsessed and enamoured with the immediate past and present results. Don't count out the guys who have been there. They have the experience and can easily do it again.

I'm not saying they don't have the talent. I'm saying they may lack the confidence, or the form, or the fitness, or whatever. ForGG seems to be rather past his prime, IMO. I hope he shows otherwise, though.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 07 2012 03:20 GMT
#69
oh, didn't realise sting was teamless o.O
thanks for the interviews! both of you :D
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Lunchador
Profile Joined April 2010
United States776 Posts
August 07 2012 03:53 GMT
#70
On August 07 2012 04:08 Xpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 03:55 ReketSomething wrote:
On August 07 2012 03:08 Lunchador wrote:
On August 07 2012 03:07 Lyter wrote:
Sorry alive, invisible terran has been taken for a while, pick something else


By who...?


I think I have your sense of humor


I spotted that real quick, but I don't think it's intended. Lol.


Haha, I knew people would catch that, although I honestly didn't know who the other one was. =P
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BuddhaMonk
Profile Joined August 2010
781 Posts
August 07 2012 04:13 GMT
#71
"I want to thank Ace, Squirtle, Parting, Oz, and Avenge for practising with me."

Not a shabby lineup of practice partners.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 04:14:36
August 07 2012 04:13 GMT
#72
On August 07 2012 05:15 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 05:09 fabiano wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:05 randoomguy wrote:
On August 07 2012 04:57 NexCa wrote:
PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

he wouldn't have said that if they faced each other in SC1 :D


give parting 10 years and stop the time for jeadong under the mean time and then we will see what happens,why is every1 saying its obvious that bw pros will not pwn in sc2 after 6 months of practise when sc2 pros has been playing for 2 years?well then why don't we just say that the other way around aswell? which has an even bigger cap


Maybe because most of current SC2 pros were already BW pros for years? I really know very little about SC2 pro-scene, but I've read somewhere the majority of GSL players were unsuccessful BW pros.

I know MC used to be called flounder in BW xD

Isn't Parting super-young?

(Just checked, he's 17 atm. I doubt he was a BW pro.)

A lot of current KeSPA pros are about that age. BaBy most notably.

I think when he talks about unsuccessful BW pros, he means some guy who's aiming to become a BW pro, which is the case for a lot of SC2 players. I'm pretty sure most of them had some time practising to get their BW licenses and spent time in popular BW clans. When they were unsuccessful, they moved on to SC2 to try their luck.

That's probably how a lot of these younger players (KeSPA and non-KeSPA) know each other.
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OnFiRe888
Profile Joined October 2010
United States629 Posts
August 07 2012 04:30 GMT
#73
Wow, parting not being cocky in a post game interview. What has the world come to. =O
"Life isn't measured by the breaths you take, but by skill in Starcraft"
sickthink
Profile Joined December 2011
United States60 Posts
August 07 2012 04:42 GMT
#74
Makes me so sad to see aLive himself and a lot of people here think of him as the invisi-terranT_T... Even though he has an unassuming, quiet, and generally unnresponsive personality on stage, in the interviews I've seen of him he has an endearing modesty and he puts so much thought and effort into making entertaining games and winning. Since he started to appear in code S last fall, his variety of play amazed me and I hoped he would get a championship, but it never came. His build choice has been a little iffy lately, but he's a top-5 terran for sure, and should most definitely get more credit than what most people are seeming to give him.
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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 07 2012 04:52 GMT
#75
Gonna start cheering for Alive more now, seeing him talk about not having many fans made me sad
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
August 07 2012 04:57 GMT
#76
Hahahaha Curious' face is the funniest thing ever

-_-
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 07 2012 06:56 GMT
#77
Nice manner by Alive. Yeah, he can't let down JD's fans after beating JD. GO ALIVE!
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
August 07 2012 07:13 GMT
#78
I admire Alive's personality. He is so humble
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
August 07 2012 07:15 GMT
#79
Interesting that Sting is teamless? Was this mentioned on TSL broadcast?
Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
August 07 2012 07:52 GMT
#80
Curiooooooooous! :D

PartinG's the same old PartinG hahahahaha
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
August 07 2012 11:28 GMT
#81
Thanks Weirdkid and Wozzot for these interviews! Appreciated!
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Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
August 07 2012 11:32 GMT
#82
On August 07 2012 10:17 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 05:38 ragz_gt wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:15 babylon wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:09 fabiano wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:05 randoomguy wrote:
On August 07 2012 04:57 NexCa wrote:
PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

he wouldn't have said that if they faced each other in SC1 :D


give parting 10 years and stop the time for jeadong under the mean time and then we will see what happens,why is every1 saying its obvious that bw pros will not pwn in sc2 after 6 months of practise when sc2 pros has been playing for 2 years?well then why don't we just say that the other way around aswell? which has an even bigger cap


Maybe because most of current SC2 pros were already BW pros for years? I really know very little about SC2 pro-scene, but I've read somewhere the majority of GSL players were unsuccessful BW pros.

I know MC used to be called flounder in BW xD

Isn't Parting super-young?

(Just checked, he's 17 atm. I doubt he was a BW pro.)


Alot people played BW, which is expected since the short duration of SC2. You really can't expect people to start play game after SC2 come out, and BW is the natural choice. However most of them did not play BW long enough at high level to really stand out.

Nestea, MMA, TheSTC, GanZi, SuperNoVa, FD, Tester can be said to be B Teamers
A couple more such as ForGG were mid tier
Then you get BoxeR, NaDa, July, Rainbow

Alot more (which include MC, MKP, HerO, PuMa, Genius, LosirA, Puzzle, Ryung etc) spent some time in BW pro team but too short to amount to anything


Was ForGG really mid-tier? He did win the Arena MSL in 2008, which was a huge accomplishment, beating Flash and Jaedong both when they were dominant.

MVP was A-teamer when he switched!
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
August 07 2012 12:20 GMT
#83
On August 07 2012 20:32 Darkthorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 10:17 Bagration wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:38 ragz_gt wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:15 babylon wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:09 fabiano wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:05 randoomguy wrote:
On August 07 2012 04:57 NexCa wrote:
PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

he wouldn't have said that if they faced each other in SC1 :D


give parting 10 years and stop the time for jeadong under the mean time and then we will see what happens,why is every1 saying its obvious that bw pros will not pwn in sc2 after 6 months of practise when sc2 pros has been playing for 2 years?well then why don't we just say that the other way around aswell? which has an even bigger cap


Maybe because most of current SC2 pros were already BW pros for years? I really know very little about SC2 pro-scene, but I've read somewhere the majority of GSL players were unsuccessful BW pros.

I know MC used to be called flounder in BW xD

Isn't Parting super-young?

(Just checked, he's 17 atm. I doubt he was a BW pro.)


Alot people played BW, which is expected since the short duration of SC2. You really can't expect people to start play game after SC2 come out, and BW is the natural choice. However most of them did not play BW long enough at high level to really stand out.

Nestea, MMA, TheSTC, GanZi, SuperNoVa, FD, Tester can be said to be B Teamers
A couple more such as ForGG were mid tier
Then you get BoxeR, NaDa, July, Rainbow

Alot more (which include MC, MKP, HerO, PuMa, Genius, LosirA, Puzzle, Ryung etc) spent some time in BW pro team but too short to amount to anything


Was ForGG really mid-tier? He did win the Arena MSL in 2008, which was a huge accomplishment, beating Flash and Jaedong both when they were dominant.

MVP was A-teamer when he switched!

but very bad.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
August 07 2012 12:22 GMT
#84
On August 07 2012 10:22 BrassMonkey27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 10:18 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 10:17 Bagration wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:38 ragz_gt wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:15 babylon wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:09 fabiano wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:05 randoomguy wrote:
On August 07 2012 04:57 NexCa wrote:
PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

he wouldn't have said that if they faced each other in SC1 :D


give parting 10 years and stop the time for jeadong under the mean time and then we will see what happens,why is every1 saying its obvious that bw pros will not pwn in sc2 after 6 months of practise when sc2 pros has been playing for 2 years?well then why don't we just say that the other way around aswell? which has an even bigger cap


Maybe because most of current SC2 pros were already BW pros for years? I really know very little about SC2 pro-scene, but I've read somewhere the majority of GSL players were unsuccessful BW pros.

I know MC used to be called flounder in BW xD

Isn't Parting super-young?

(Just checked, he's 17 atm. I doubt he was a BW pro.)


Alot people played BW, which is expected since the short duration of SC2. You really can't expect people to start play game after SC2 come out, and BW is the natural choice. However most of them did not play BW long enough at high level to really stand out.

Nestea, MMA, TheSTC, GanZi, SuperNoVa, FD, Tester can be said to be B Teamers
A couple more such as ForGG were mid tier
Then you get BoxeR, NaDa, July, Rainbow

Alot more (which include MC, MKP, HerO, PuMa, Genius, LosirA, Puzzle, Ryung etc) spent some time in BW pro team but too short to amount to anything


Was ForGG really mid-tier? He did win the Arena MSL in 2008, which was a huge accomplishment, beating Flash and Jaedong both when they were dominant.

Four years ago.


Which means he was top-tier at one point. Just because it was four years ago doesn't mean he lacks to talent to repeat. Its the same thing with hockey fans.. some people are just obsessed and enamoured with the immediate past and present results. Don't count out the guys who have been there. They have the experience and can easily do it again.

I remember he said in an interview that he lost 70 games in a row against Flash though
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
August 07 2012 22:32 GMT
#85
Aww poor alive, but good attitude! I love that guy - i don't get the whole boring thing, he's a very interesting person in his own right. Hopefully he feels more comfortable in the spotlight though and continues to dominate =)
The multiplying villanies of man do swarm upon him.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 07 2012 23:24 GMT
#86
On August 07 2012 21:20 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 20:32 Darkthorn wrote:
On August 07 2012 10:17 Bagration wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:38 ragz_gt wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:15 babylon wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:09 fabiano wrote:
On August 07 2012 05:05 randoomguy wrote:
On August 07 2012 04:57 NexCa wrote:
PartinG: "I would like to face Jaedong"

he wouldn't have said that if they faced each other in SC1 :D


give parting 10 years and stop the time for jeadong under the mean time and then we will see what happens,why is every1 saying its obvious that bw pros will not pwn in sc2 after 6 months of practise when sc2 pros has been playing for 2 years?well then why don't we just say that the other way around aswell? which has an even bigger cap


Maybe because most of current SC2 pros were already BW pros for years? I really know very little about SC2 pro-scene, but I've read somewhere the majority of GSL players were unsuccessful BW pros.

I know MC used to be called flounder in BW xD

Isn't Parting super-young?

(Just checked, he's 17 atm. I doubt he was a BW pro.)


Alot people played BW, which is expected since the short duration of SC2. You really can't expect people to start play game after SC2 come out, and BW is the natural choice. However most of them did not play BW long enough at high level to really stand out.

Nestea, MMA, TheSTC, GanZi, SuperNoVa, FD, Tester can be said to be B Teamers
A couple more such as ForGG were mid tier
Then you get BoxeR, NaDa, July, Rainbow

Alot more (which include MC, MKP, HerO, PuMa, Genius, LosirA, Puzzle, Ryung etc) spent some time in BW pro team but too short to amount to anything


Was ForGG really mid-tier? He did win the Arena MSL in 2008, which was a huge accomplishment, beating Flash and Jaedong both when they were dominant.

MVP was A-teamer when he switched!

but very bad.

Dunno about "very." I'd say still an up-and-comer.
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