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Canada16217 Posts
"Eclypsia is very happy to announce a new player has joined its Stracraft II professional team : Jeffrey, « SjoW » Brusi.
This 26 years old Swedish gamer is already famous on the esport stage. He first started playing Warcraft III before he changed for Stracraft II right after the beta was released. And it all started very well. He indeed won his very first tournament, the Inferno Online Cup, defeating one of the best, MorroW, two weeks only after the game was released. He also won different other competitions such as the IEM Season V European tournament, the IeSF 2011 World Championship and The Gathering. Quite lucky in MLG, he reached the 5th seat in 2010 (and the 8th one the year after that).
SjoW also made a name for himself in October 2011 while playing GSL Code A. Invited after his great performance in MLG, he got rid of Maka in the first round before he lost against Curious. He indeed is among the few European gamers who won a game in this pitiless competition by GOM.TV. The next season, he withdrew to go back to Sweden and won his last big title shortly after that: Grubby’s tournament, fourth edition.
Sjow remained more discreet after that and yet very efficient, reaching the DreamHack Stockholm‘ s fifth seat in April 2012. After a short break to discover Diablo II, he came back to Bizzard’s RTS title.
After Dignitas with whom he used play, SjoW now joins Eclypsia with one main goal: get back to the European Top Level and achieve some new great results in international tournaments together with his Scandinavian team-mate, Welmu.
Said to be one of the best Terrans in Europe, precise and unpredictable, SjoW will share his passion with you through stream on Eclypsia’s WebTV.
We are very happy this most talented player joins us. Welcome!"
Article:http://www.eclypsia.com/fr/sc2/news-2263.html
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Interesting to see someone join EC after the negative publicity with the "mass-leave".
GL to both sites!
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Wait what... didn't he and Dignitas part ways long ago?
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GL SjoW!
Yo Dignitas making room for Naniwa return?
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Wow this huge news, Eclypsia is becoming very strong! ^^ ... I wish EC the best of luck in the future~ GL EC and SJOW~!
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On August 02 2012 23:25 JustPassingBy wrote:
Wait what... didn't he and Dignitas part ways long ago?
Nope, he re-signed because he didn't find a team (I think). GL to both Eclypsia and Jeffrey!
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On August 02 2012 23:25 JustPassingBy wrote:
Wait what... didn't he and Dignitas part ways long ago?
He re-joined dignitas again not long after he left.
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I wonder what Eclypsia offered that Dignitas could not.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 02 2012 23:27 Xacez wrote:
I wonder what Eclypsia offered that Dignitas could not.
Typically the answer is "Better terms", but who knows. I didn't think Eclypsia had deep pockets, and their reputation might not be the best. But then again, what do any of us know.
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I feel like this article was horribly translated...the terrible GOM.tv?
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On August 02 2012 23:27 Xacez wrote:
I wonder what Eclypsia offered that Dignitas could not.
Probably an...
*sunglasses*
...offer he couldn't refuse.
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Was convinced he was on his way to ICA.
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Terrible gomtv? Wtf... seriously eclypsia is a joke. I dont unserstand why sjow would join them.
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Canada16217 Posts
On August 02 2012 23:28 TylerThaCreator wrote:
I feel like this article was horribly translated...the terrible GOM.tv?
Google translate bro, not my fault LOL.
If someone wants to provide a better translation please post it.
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On August 02 2012 23:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:SJOW is also known for its course in GSL Code A , in October 2011. Invited through his career in MLG, it eliminates the dreaded Maka in the first round before giving in to Curious. This is one of the few Europeans to have won a match in the competition organized by terrible GOM.TV . The following season, he withdraws to return to Sweden, and won his last major title shortly after, the fourth edition of the tournament Grubby. Since the player is more discreet, but remains formidable: he finished fifth in the DreamHack Stockholm in April 2012. After a pause to see as many of us Diablo III, it is up to the bottom of the Blizzard RTS.
Please don't just post google translate - this paragraph is incredibly garbled. Let someone else do a real translation!
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What? No way. Sjow is better than that.
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no surprise 
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Dignitas is famous for low/non-existant salaries, preferring to send players to events and not over extend
I imagine EC just offered sjow more money so he took the deal, it was obviously what he was looking for during his hiatus from the team.
TBH Sjow has fallen off, which makes me sad because his hellion play back in late 2010 made me play terran, hopefully he can make a come back but my money would be him disappearing from the circuit by the time his contract is up
Still, GL Sjow and GL to Eclypsia
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I think this is a troll. Honestly, I cannot see ever happening for real. Eclypsia is a joke team and Sjow is well established as a player.
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This is purely speculating but I have a feeling he got a pretty mediocre deal with Dignitas when he resigned with them. Eclypsia matched it with some more promises like better LAN support or a higher base salary.
SjoW has been very overrated for a long time and I doubt he'll be able to keep up for much longer. I won't be surprised if he announces his retirement from the progaming scene before the end of the year.
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
That google translate was amazing, thank you/
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
On August 02 2012 23:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:
SJOW is also known for its course in GSL Code A , in October 2011. Invited through his career in MLG, it eliminates the dreaded Maka in the first round before giving in to Curious. This is one of the few Europeans to have won a match in the competition organized by terrible GOM.TV . The following season, he withdraws to return to Sweden, and won his last major title shortly after, the fourth edition of the tournament Grubby. Since the player is more discreet, but remains formidable: he finished fifth in the DreamHack Stockholm in April 2012. After a pause to see as many of us Diablo III, it is up to the bottom of the Blizzard RTS.
Way to show your class Eclypsia
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On August 02 2012 23:32 Special Endrey wrote:no surprise
Please enlighten us.
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I call troll on this one... makes zero sense at least, really hope this is a joke :s
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Canada16217 Posts
On August 02 2012 23:38 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 23:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:
SJOW is also known for its course in GSL Code A , in October 2011. Invited through his career in MLG, it eliminates the dreaded Maka in the first round before giving in to Curious. This is one of the few Europeans to have won a match in the competition organized by terrible GOM.TV . The following season, he withdraws to return to Sweden, and won his last major title shortly after, the fourth edition of the tournament Grubby. Since the player is more discreet, but remains formidable: he finished fifth in the DreamHack Stockholm in April 2012. After a pause to see as many of us Diablo III, it is up to the bottom of the Blizzard RTS.
Way to show your class Eclypsia
Sorry that google translate ._.
Please if anyone can translate post it and I will edit it into the post.
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On August 02 2012 23:32 Badfatpanda wrote:
I think this is a troll. Honestly, I cannot see ever happening for real. Eclypsia is a joke team and Sjow is well established as a player.
Nope, check out Sjow's twitter
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Canada16217 Posts
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On August 02 2012 23:38 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 23:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:
SJOW is also known for its course in GSL Code A , in October 2011. Invited through his career in MLG, it eliminates the dreaded Maka in the first round before giving in to Curious. This is one of the few Europeans to have won a match in the competition organized by terrible GOM.TV . The following season, he withdraws to return to Sweden, and won his last major title shortly after, the fourth edition of the tournament Grubby. Since the player is more discreet, but remains formidable: he finished fifth in the DreamHack Stockholm in April 2012. After a pause to see as many of us Diablo III, it is up to the bottom of the Blizzard RTS.
Way to show your class Eclypsia
C'est un des rares européens à avoir gagné un match dans la terrible compétition organisée par GOM.TV.
The right translation is:
He is one of the few Europeans to have won a match in the terrifying competition organized by GOM TV.
Gl to Sjow. I like his playstyle.
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On August 02 2012 23:43 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 23:38 Hassybaby wrote:On August 02 2012 23:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:
SJOW is also known for its course in GSL Code A , in October 2011. Invited through his career in MLG, it eliminates the dreaded Maka in the first round before giving in to Curious. This is one of the few Europeans to have won a match in the competition organized by terrible GOM.TV . The following season, he withdraws to return to Sweden, and won his last major title shortly after, the fourth edition of the tournament Grubby. Since the player is more discreet, but remains formidable: he finished fifth in the DreamHack Stockholm in April 2012. After a pause to see as many of us Diablo III, it is up to the bottom of the Blizzard RTS.
Way to show your class Eclypsia Show nested quote +C'est un des rares européens à avoir gagné un match dans la terrible compétition organisée par GOM.TV. The right translation is: He is one of the few Europeans to have won a match in the terrifying competition organized by GOM TV. Gl to Sjow. I like his playstyle.
OK that sounds a lot better :D
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He hasn't won anything for quite a while and has also been absent from the scene. Still good luck to him and I hope he can come back and win something big.
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Oh no... not good news IMO
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I thought Eclypsia was a dead team. Ah well good luck to Sjow I guess.
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On August 02 2012 23:40 Zvenn3n wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 23:32 Badfatpanda wrote:
I think this is a troll. Honestly, I cannot see ever happening for real. Eclypsia is a joke team and Sjow is well established as a player. Nope, check out Sjow's twitter
I saw it, I'm following him. Stranger things have happened >.>
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On August 02 2012 23:38 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 23:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:
SJOW is also known for its course in GSL Code A , in October 2011. Invited through his career in MLG, it eliminates the dreaded Maka in the first round before giving in to Curious. This is one of the few Europeans to have won a match in the competition organized by terrible GOM.TV . The following season, he withdraws to return to Sweden, and won his last major title shortly after, the fourth edition of the tournament Grubby. Since the player is more discreet, but remains formidable: he finished fifth in the DreamHack Stockholm in April 2012. After a pause to see as many of us Diablo III, it is up to the bottom of the Blizzard RTS.
Way to show your class Eclypsia
put the blame on google translate, they actually say "he is one of the rare European who was able to win a series in the dreadful (here is how I would translate "terrible" form French in that situation) competition organized by GomTV
edit: ninjaed by Koshi
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No respect for this team and any1 on it, sorry.
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Now this is a surprise. Didnt he resign with Dignitas a couple of months ago? Anyway, best of luck to you, Sjow!
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dignitas freeing up money for nani
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Does Sjow know that Eclypsia decided to have him?
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On August 02 2012 23:51 babybell wrote:
Does Sjow know that Eclypsia decided to have him?
Considering he changed his twitter name to ECsjow, yes.
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On August 02 2012 23:40 Zvenn3n wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 23:32 Badfatpanda wrote:
I think this is a troll. Honestly, I cannot see ever happening for real. Eclypsia is a joke team and Sjow is well established as a player. Nope, check out Sjow's twitter
I'm pretty disappointed by this as well... SjoW certainly deserves better than Eclypsia, lackluster recent performances notwithstanding. Perhaps Dignitas isn't doing too well financially at the moment? (pure baseless speculation btw)
But if this is what SjoW thinks is best for him... good luck to him!
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On August 02 2012 23:48 DSP wrote:
Now this is a surprise. Didnt he resign with Dignitas a couple of months ago? Anyway, best of luck to you, Sjow!
He did, I guess they couldn't suit or fulfill his needs.
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How is this even true?
Eclypsia has been a mess from the start, losing their only notable players straight away, and only their polarizing little PR-stunt (which I myself found awesome, but the average forum user hated) gave them any recognition...
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SjoW i think you deserve a better team, such a strong underrated player with one of the best desicion making i've seen. GL anyways!
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GL Sjow, hope the best in the future!
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This is pretty surprising, after the vast majority of Eclypsia's team left over pretty significant issues aroud not being paid and etcetera. Honestly, I'm still surprised that Eclypsia managed to survive their self-inflicted april fools day disaster.
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Just read this, very peculiar.
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On August 02 2012 23:45 Pjorren wrote:
I thought Eclypsia was a dead team. Ah well good luck to Sjow I guess.
If you go to the website, they have 2 to 3K viewers all day long in the TV. Dont look like dead.
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No,no,no, Sjow deserves a better team then EC...
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Sjow is a bigger brand than eclypsia... but gl to him!
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nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo SjoW has fallen into the lie and trap :'(
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Yes,SjoW is EC player now, he is not representing Team Dignitas anymore !
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Best of luck to both Sjow and Eclypsia. I'm actually glad to see mroe players start to join their ranks after the mass leave hopefully everything works!
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What a poor SjoW from such a good player.
^_^
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Makes sense. Hopefully we get to see more of him.
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United States97276 Posts
seems like a strange move... but good luck Sjow
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What the fudge?
This has to be a troll.
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Mygod, why SjoW joined them
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Canada16217 Posts
On August 03 2012 01:20 Kamwah wrote:
What the fudge?
This has to be a troll.
Doesn't look like it unless Sjow and Eclypsia are trolling us all O.O
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Sjow left Dignitas... for EC?
Why on earth...
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but sjow is awesome 
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Why would Sjow join such a horribly run team :l
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the only thing i can assume is that sjow had to leave dignitas because they didnt want to renew his contract. presumably because of lack of results or something? thats the only thing that can come to mind at the moment
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Weird to see Sjow leave Dignitas, he was one of the most "veteran" players in the team. Anyways good luck!
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Wow, so unexpected :o GL!
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This is it, they're making space for naniwa, and naniwa's going to come back to dignitas 
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really didnt see this coming and i think this is a troll too but if its not congrats on a great pic up
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Hope things works out with Eclypsia although I find the team a little strange. GL to both parties!
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On August 02 2012 23:29 JeffGoldblum wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 23:27 Xacez wrote:
I wonder what Eclypsia offered that Dignitas could not. Probably an offer... *puts on sunglasses* ...he couldn't refuse.
Fixed that for ya.
Hopefully under eclypsia we'll be Sjown his true power. Atleast he got on a team, that's good fo' sjow.
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Questionable choice, but i hope it works out for him. Looking forward to seeing how this benefits him in the long run
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SjoW surely deserves a way better team the EC! But as a fellow Swed i cant say anything els than good luck!
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On August 02 2012 23:24 Pimpmuckl wrote:
Interesting to see someone join EC after the negative publicity with the "mass-leave".
GL to both sites!
Yeah, I was also thinking EC was finished regarding SC2.
If they haven't the funds to pay Scarlett and DesRow, how can they support Sjow?
Well, let's see how long this relationship holds...
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Magic Woods9326 Posts
On August 03 2012 01:34 VTArlock wrote:
Sjow left Dignitas... for EC?
Why on earth...
More promised money I guess?
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I remember Eclypsia having a bigger roster...hm....
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On August 03 2012 03:03 testthewest wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 23:24 Pimpmuckl wrote:
Interesting to see someone join EC after the negative publicity with the "mass-leave".
GL to both sites! Yeah, I was also thinking EC was finished regarding SC2. If they haven't the funds to pay Scarlett and DesRow, how can they support Sjow? Well, let's see how long this relationship holds...
When did anyone ever say they didn't have the money for Scarlett and desRow?
People can be so clueless and make so much stuff up, as can be seen in this thread.
If you think about it, it's a very obvious reason.
Players need money to continue their careers. It's a fact, and oftentimes that need has to overcome team loyalty, for obvious reasons. This doesn't make a player the bad guy.
All the players that left Eclypsia said they did so because the management made claims they couldn't follow up on and had too much ambition for where they were actually at. However, they all said they were paid fine and the contract was not broken, just that they miscommunicated goals. Furthermore, NaNiwa recently mentioned in his real talk that Dignitas is very "safe" with their money, not willing to take risks and invest a lot of money into a particular player.
SjoW left Dignitas for EC because they offered him more money. It is as simple as that, and it makes perfect sense.
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On August 03 2012 01:28 NovemberstOrm wrote:Doesn't look like it unless Sjow and Eclypsia are trolling us all O.O
Well Morrow tried with ICA. I wouldn't be surprised if they all went that way XD
-_- Ain't seen Sjow do anything for a while anyway so meh.
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Sjow out, Naniwa in.
Makes sense from a Dignitas standpoint.
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what a week for transfers. Weird to see Sjow join EC, I didn't expect EC to continue to grow after the mass exodus which occurred a few months ago.
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I'd pick Dignitas over Eclypsia anyday, but ... grats i guess ? Strange i thought he just signed again with Dignitas.
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This makes sense, I'm not sure why people are screaming "troll." I believe Naniwa in his Real Talk with JP mentioned Dignitas doesn't pay ridiculous money for players and that's why he moved on originally.
Eclypsia made some PR mistakes but that doesn't mean they are not a legitimate team. I believe desRow said the 4 of them left over a clash of focus/vision for the SC2 team. He also said the players were paid everything they were owed according to contract.
I wonder if Dignitas will now extend an offer to Naniwa since he made it clear on Real Talk that it's where he wants to be.
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I hope sjow doesn't get screwed over by a shadyish team. Gl to him!
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Problem is... is he really worth that extra money? Sure he seems to be a nice enough guy, but has he really accomplished anything recently?
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He is indeed a good pickup.
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Sjow :[
I just want him to do well.
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Russian Federation9 Posts
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That's... not good for Sjow. Seriously there's a reason (or five) for the mass exodus from team Eclypsia.
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On August 03 2012 03:50 Spooony wrote:
Sjow out, Naniwa in.
Makes sense from a Dignitas standpoint.
naniwa wont join dignitas again, i can garuntee it.
theres a very likely rumor that he will be joing azubu with viOlet and TOP
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On August 03 2012 05:11 Marcus420 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 03:50 Spooony wrote:
Sjow out, Naniwa in.
Makes sense from a Dignitas standpoint. naniwa wont join dignitas again, i can garuntee it. theres a very likely rumor that he will be joing azubu with viOlet and TOP
That "insider" has been making stuff up as well so I wouldn't believe the post you're referring to
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wow Sarens is a manager now? O_O
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On August 03 2012 05:11 Marcus420 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 03:50 Spooony wrote:
Sjow out, Naniwa in.
Makes sense from a Dignitas standpoint. naniwa wont join dignitas again, i can garuntee it. theres a very likely rumor that he will be joing azubu with viOlet and TOP
There's actually a very good chance that he will re-join Dignitas. He and Odee have a very gooe relationship and are the front runners to sign him, don't be surprised if he does. This was all explained in the real talk video with JP, if you haven't seen it.
Sjow out, nani in I think
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boo, don't like this at all. I liked SjoW in Dignitas, and I don't like NaNi, so I hope he doesn't go to Dignitas, but oh well.
Wondering what will happen with this. GL
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On August 03 2012 05:18 magnaflow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:11 Marcus420 wrote:On August 03 2012 03:50 Spooony wrote:
Sjow out, Naniwa in.
Makes sense from a Dignitas standpoint. naniwa wont join dignitas again, i can garuntee it. theres a very likely rumor that he will be joing azubu with viOlet and TOP There's actually a very good chance that he will re-join Dignitas. He and Odee have a very gooe relationship and are the front runners to sign him, don't be surprised if he does. This was all explained in the real talk video with JP, if you haven't seen it. Sjow out, nani in I think
i did watch it... and im pretty sure dignitas wasnt able to give him what he wanted. (send him to many events all over, korea and such) Isnt that why he left in the first place?
iS just annouced jEcho left his team... i think we found our new dignitas player imo 
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On August 03 2012 05:24 Marcus420 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:18 magnaflow wrote:On August 03 2012 05:11 Marcus420 wrote:On August 03 2012 03:50 Spooony wrote:
Sjow out, Naniwa in.
Makes sense from a Dignitas standpoint. naniwa wont join dignitas again, i can garuntee it. theres a very likely rumor that he will be joing azubu with viOlet and TOP There's actually a very good chance that he will re-join Dignitas. He and Odee have a very gooe relationship and are the front runners to sign him, don't be surprised if he does. This was all explained in the real talk video with JP, if you haven't seen it. Sjow out, nani in I think i did watch it... and im pretty sure dignitas wasnt able to give him what he wanted. (send him to many events all over, korea and such) Isnt that why he left in the first place?
no he left because complexity offered him three times the salary that dignitas offered him. traveling to events wasnt they problem, he just wanted more salary.
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On August 03 2012 05:27 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:24 Marcus420 wrote:On August 03 2012 05:18 magnaflow wrote:On August 03 2012 05:11 Marcus420 wrote:On August 03 2012 03:50 Spooony wrote:
Sjow out, Naniwa in.
Makes sense from a Dignitas standpoint. naniwa wont join dignitas again, i can garuntee it. theres a very likely rumor that he will be joing azubu with viOlet and TOP There's actually a very good chance that he will re-join Dignitas. He and Odee have a very gooe relationship and are the front runners to sign him, don't be surprised if he does. This was all explained in the real talk video with JP, if you haven't seen it. Sjow out, nani in I think i did watch it... and im pretty sure dignitas wasnt able to give him what he wanted. (send him to many events all over, korea and such) Isnt that why he left in the first place? no he left because complexity offered him three times the salary that dignitas offered him. traveling to events wasnt they problem, he just wanted more salary.
True, i probably got the things mixed around.
What makes you think getting rid of sjow makes them afford nani?
I still think nani wont join dignitas... would love to be proven wrong though!
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On August 03 2012 05:30 Marcus420 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:27 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 03 2012 05:24 Marcus420 wrote:On August 03 2012 05:18 magnaflow wrote:On August 03 2012 05:11 Marcus420 wrote:On August 03 2012 03:50 Spooony wrote:
Sjow out, Naniwa in.
Makes sense from a Dignitas standpoint. naniwa wont join dignitas again, i can garuntee it. theres a very likely rumor that he will be joing azubu with viOlet and TOP There's actually a very good chance that he will re-join Dignitas. He and Odee have a very gooe relationship and are the front runners to sign him, don't be surprised if he does. This was all explained in the real talk video with JP, if you haven't seen it. Sjow out, nani in I think i did watch it... and im pretty sure dignitas wasnt able to give him what he wanted. (send him to many events all over, korea and such) Isnt that why he left in the first place? no he left because complexity offered him three times the salary that dignitas offered him. traveling to events wasnt they problem, he just wanted more salary. True, i probably got the things mixed around. What makes you think getting rid of sjow makes them afford nani? I still think nani wont join dignitas... would love to be proven wrong though!
well at the end of real talk Nani said he has a team in mind and if they are able to give him the minimum salary he is looking for he will join them over some other teams that offer more, which is similar to when he left dignitas, he asked for dignitas to just give half of what complexity offered. plus Slasher is reporting that Dignitas is in the lead to sign him while all the other big teams are out of the running.
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Gotta love how a SjoW topic immediately becomes a Naniwa topic...
Best of luck to SjoW. Eclypsia has way too much bad stigma for me to congratulate them, but SjoW is an awesome player, so I hope everything works out well for him.
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What makes you think getting rid of sjow makes them afford nani?
I still think nani wont join dignitas... would love to be proven wrong though!
Naniwa mentioned that Dignitas couldn't take him (at the time of the Real Talk recording) because their budget for the year was set in stone. With Sjow leaving, perhaps there is enough resources now available to pickup Naniwa.
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lol EC.. really don't see that team lasting very long
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Welmu isn't scandinavian.
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On August 03 2012 05:24 Marcus420 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:18 magnaflow wrote:On August 03 2012 05:11 Marcus420 wrote:On August 03 2012 03:50 Spooony wrote:
Sjow out, Naniwa in.
Makes sense from a Dignitas standpoint. naniwa wont join dignitas again, i can garuntee it. theres a very likely rumor that he will be joing azubu with viOlet and TOP There's actually a very good chance that he will re-join Dignitas. He and Odee have a very gooe relationship and are the front runners to sign him, don't be surprised if he does. This was all explained in the real talk video with JP, if you haven't seen it. Sjow out, nani in I think i did watch it... and im pretty sure dignitas wasnt able to give him what he wanted. (send him to many events all over, korea and such) Isnt that why he left in the first place? iS just annouced jEcho left his team... i think we found our new dignitas player imo
you fucking serious? it was explicitly stated that jEcho left iS to finish his studies...
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On August 03 2012 05:43 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Gotta love how a SjoW topic immediately becomes a Naniwa topic...
Might be because sjow hasn't done anything noteworthy in ages and is not very interesting as a result of that.
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On August 03 2012 05:24 Marcus420 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:18 magnaflow wrote:On August 03 2012 05:11 Marcus420 wrote:On August 03 2012 03:50 Spooony wrote:
Sjow out, Naniwa in.
Makes sense from a Dignitas standpoint. naniwa wont join dignitas again, i can garuntee it. theres a very likely rumor that he will be joing azubu with viOlet and TOP There's actually a very good chance that he will re-join Dignitas. He and Odee have a very gooe relationship and are the front runners to sign him, don't be surprised if he does. This was all explained in the real talk video with JP, if you haven't seen it. Sjow out, nani in I think i did watch it... and im pretty sure dignitas wasnt able to give him what he wanted. (send him to many events all over, korea and such) Isnt that why he left in the first place? iS just annouced jEcho left his team... i think we found our new dignitas player imo
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I don't remember what eclypsia did with that PR stunt, but I do remember I didn't like it at all. Hmm, anyways, hope it works out for Sjow and eclypsia becomes a well established and respected team.
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I don't trust EC. Good luck to Sjow, but be careful.
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On August 03 2012 07:07 solidbebe wrote:
I don't remember what eclypsia did with that PR stunt, but I do remember I didn't like it at all. Hmm, anyways, hope it works out for Sjow and eclypsia becomes a well established and respected team.
What did they do? I don't remember.
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On August 03 2012 07:25 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 07:07 solidbebe wrote:
I don't remember what eclypsia did with that PR stunt, but I do remember I didn't like it at all. Hmm, anyways, hope it works out for Sjow and eclypsia becomes a well established and respected team. What did they do? I don't remember.
Yeah that's exactly my problem you see >_____>
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On August 03 2012 07:25 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 07:07 solidbebe wrote:
I don't remember what eclypsia did with that PR stunt, but I do remember I didn't like it at all. Hmm, anyways, hope it works out for Sjow and eclypsia becomes a well established and respected team. What did they do? I don't remember.
There was an April Fool's thing they did to announce new players where they were basically accusing themselves of fraud.
They also had a terrible meme contest for rage comics or whatever.
They also had the whole Dota2 team thing as well.
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this kid beat me?
no wonder hes getting signed not good enough for team ica tho
glgl i ec sjow d
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On August 03 2012 07:29 CuteZergling wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 07:25 GreEny K wrote:On August 03 2012 07:07 solidbebe wrote:
I don't remember what eclypsia did with that PR stunt, but I do remember I didn't like it at all. Hmm, anyways, hope it works out for Sjow and eclypsia becomes a well established and respected team. What did they do? I don't remember. There was an April Fool's thing they did to announce new players where they were basically accusing themselves of fraud. They also had a terrible meme contest for rage comics or whatever. They also had the whole Dota2 team thing as well.
Sounds... weird.
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Dang if that's true, that was a terrible move for him unless he knows something we don't. Is Eclypsia planning on getting their shit together soon?
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Not a very wise choice to make for Sjow. EC not the best team he could've joined.
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On August 03 2012 07:34 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 07:29 CuteZergling wrote:On August 03 2012 07:25 GreEny K wrote:On August 03 2012 07:07 solidbebe wrote:
I don't remember what eclypsia did with that PR stunt, but I do remember I didn't like it at all. Hmm, anyways, hope it works out for Sjow and eclypsia becomes a well established and respected team. What did they do? I don't remember. There was an April Fool's thing they did to announce new players where they were basically accusing themselves of fraud. They also had a terrible meme contest for rage comics or whatever. They also had the whole Dota2 team thing as well. Sounds... weird.
That and 4 of their SC2 players jumped ship simultaneously, three of which were "top-billing" players (Artist, Scarlett and DesRow).
In fact, since their inception in February (less than half a year), they've had 7 players leave, which is equal to their current roster size.
On the whole, Eclypsia seems to have troubles actually living up to contractual or verbal promises. That's according to DesRow and the DOTA2 team, at least.
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On August 02 2012 23:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Sjow remained more discreet after that and yet very efficient, reaching the DreamHack Stockholm‘ s fifth seat in April 2012. After a short break to discover Diablo II, he came back to Bizzard’s RTS title.
A bit late to discover Diablo II, huh? Could have done that ten years earlier.
*SCNR* (it's III in the french source link, but II in the english one. :o) )
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On August 03 2012 05:23 Shinta) wrote:
boo, don't like this at all. I liked SjoW in Dignitas, and I don't like NaNi, so I hope he doesn't go to Dignitas, but oh well.
Wondering what will happen with this. GL
Probably making space for Naniwa, also I think SjoW has fallen of lately. I remember though he did a all-kill after he left Dignitas but resigned shortly afterwards, but other than that I don't think SjoW has done that much lately. It feels like this will be maybe his last team or so before he retire because I don't think he can see anything long lived with Eclypsia considering their history and that!
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I don't understand what's so surprising.
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Thanks for adding the links.
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On August 03 2012 07:34 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 07:29 CuteZergling wrote:On August 03 2012 07:25 GreEny K wrote:On August 03 2012 07:07 solidbebe wrote:
I don't remember what eclypsia did with that PR stunt, but I do remember I didn't like it at all. Hmm, anyways, hope it works out for Sjow and eclypsia becomes a well established and respected team. What did they do? I don't remember. There was an April Fool's thing they did to announce new players where they were basically accusing themselves of fraud. They also had a terrible meme contest for rage comics or whatever. They also had the whole Dota2 team thing as well. Sounds... weird.
Ah that was it, thank you. Yep, seems eclypsia hasnt done the best job so far of setting a name for themselves.
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On August 02 2012 23:29 conz wrote:
Was convinced he was on his way to ICA.
Love people who took that post seriously
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Wait, does Eclypsia still exist? How?
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On August 03 2012 07:30 MorroW wrote:this kid beat me? no wonder hes getting signed not good enough for team ica tho glgl i ec sjow d
nice
also, i guess gl in EC, but i have a strong feeling things aren't going to look very comfortable in the near-future.
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On August 02 2012 23:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:After a short break to discover Diablo II Discovering an over a decade old game seems about right.
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Wow, this is why you never use Google Translate. Or at least when you do you actually tell us in the OP...
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We've not heard anything massively unprofessional from Eclypsia in some time now, maybe they've decided to become legitimate team now. Please spare us with your PR disasters now, so people don't feel offended by this team anymore.
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Goodluck Sjow, I liked your play back in the day - would love you to start posting results again!
Look at Welmu guys, I didn't even know who he was until he joined EC and now he has been performing fairly decently. Give them a chance.
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The English was pretty awkward in that statement, but interesting news.
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I personally feel like this wasn't a good career move for SjoW, but not knowing his reasons or anything like that, I wish him great success Like watching your play!
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There has to be more to this that we don't know. Dignitas is very well respected, and Eclypsia has basically none. Also does Eclypsia even have sponsors?
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Dignitas is going down? Haven't heard much from the team in a while and now Sjow is leaving after just back for like a month or two?
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The previous actions from Eclypsia were really shady, but gl to Sjow maybe they are able to keep promises now.
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On August 02 2012 23:27 Xacez wrote:
I wonder what Eclypsia offered that Dignitas could not.
have to be more money...but I feel like Dignitas was a better team for Sjow. Eclypsia....is well meh...
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Well, let's hope said team got their act together, and this is the beginning of something awesome.
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arent they kinda notorious for not paying their players??
Thats why Scarlett and other sc2 player left... I dont like this team
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I thought this team was disbanded after all the core members SloG, Scarlett, Maka left?
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On August 03 2012 12:31 Ritchie wrote:
Dignitas is going down? Haven't heard much from the team in a while and now Sjow is leaving after just back for like a month or two?
Considering that he only resigned with dignitas because nobody else wanted him and they just signed jrecco who seems to be doing very well, I wouldn't think that the team itself is in any trouble.
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Why on earth would you ever sign with eclypsia? They have an absolutely terrible history of not delivering for their players.
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Where is my eclipsia flair?!
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On August 03 2012 13:39 mongmong wrote:
arent they kinda notorious for not paying their players??
Thats why Scarlett and other sc2 player left... I dont like this team
I recall people (well at least Scarlett and DesRow) say that Eclypsia didn't scam them out of salaries or compensation at all, but there were other things that caused them to leave.
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If anyone thinks that SLoG, Scarlett, desRow, or Artist is/was better than Welmu, he doesn't know anything about sc2.
I totaly agree that why to send noob players to korea? It would have been only waste of money to EC.
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On August 03 2012 12:31 Ritchie wrote:
Dignitas is going down? Haven't heard much from the team in a while and now Sjow is leaving after just back for like a month or two?
Nah Dignitas is still going strong.
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A bit out of left field this one.
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On August 03 2012 15:50 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
If anyone thinks that SLoG, Scarlett, desRow, or Artist is/was better than Welmu, he doesn't know anything about sc2.
I totaly agree that why to send noob players to korea? It would have been only waste of money to EC.
Scarlett is for sure at least around Welmu's level. I don't know if Artist still practices seriously but he used to be damn good aswell.
now a bit of a general response to this topic...people should really stop bashing on Eclypsia when they have no clue at all. I read a few comments in this thread and it its annoying how everyone no matter how uninformed he is shits on Eclypsia. They are a serious team, there were no salary problems.. they just decided not invest into a korean teamhouse but desrow, artist and scarlett all wanted to practice in Korea, so they left. It was nothing more or less.
They have players like Krr, SjoW and Welmu now and Welmu is on Eclypsia for a while now and seems to like it. Show some respect guys and don't assume negative things because you read other people spread false information.
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So sad to see sjow leaving dignitas. Just doesnt feel right to see sjow with another clantag. He's been in dignitas for so long that you kinda associate sjow with dignitas and vice versa.
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Jesus christ the comments in this thread have got me scratching my freaking head... What has SjoW honestly done in the last year or more? He is undeserving of any real sponsorship, and the real question people should be posing is 'why would Eclypsia waste their time with SjoW' not the other way around.
SjoW is a bum, he isn't good anymore and probably should retire. Unless Eclypsia has some weird spark that would reignite him again, I don't see him ever doing well again.
GL nontheless.
EDIT: Also it's funny how clueless and uninformed people are in this thread... people post hearsay and others gobble it up like a turkey dinner and then spew that nonsense all over the place, just pure dribble in this thread. Eclypsia is a legit team... deSrow and Scarlett confirmed this, there were other reasons as to their departure and it had nothing to do with the organization not delivering on their promises. Typical witch hunt, he says she says teamliquid at it again.
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On August 03 2012 19:07 NuKE[vZ] wrote:
Jesus christ the comments in this thread have got me scratching my freaking head... What has SjoW honestly done in the last year or more? He is undeserving of any real sponsorship, and the real question people should be posing is 'why would Eclypsia waste their time with SjoW' not the other way around.
SjoW is a bum, he isn't good anymore and probably should retire. Unless Eclypsia has some weird spark that would reignite him again, I don't see him ever doing well again.
GL nontheless.
EDIT: Also it's funny how clueless and uninformed people are in this thread... people post hearsay and others gobble it up like a turkey dinner and then spew that nonsense all over the place, just pure dribble in this thread. Eclypsia is a legit team... deSrow and Scarlett confirmed this, there were other reasons as to their departure and it had nothing to do with the organization not delivering on their promises. Typical witch hunt, he says she says teamliquid at it again.
"Big fan of compLexity" i lol'ed
User was temp banned for this post.
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On August 03 2012 19:13 Kaitokid wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 19:07 NuKE[vZ] wrote:
Jesus christ the comments in this thread have got me scratching my freaking head... What has SjoW honestly done in the last year or more? He is undeserving of any real sponsorship, and the real question people should be posing is 'why would Eclypsia waste their time with SjoW' not the other way around.
SjoW is a bum, he isn't good anymore and probably should retire. Unless Eclypsia has some weird spark that would reignite him again, I don't see him ever doing well again.
GL nontheless.
EDIT: Also it's funny how clueless and uninformed people are in this thread... people post hearsay and others gobble it up like a turkey dinner and then spew that nonsense all over the place, just pure dribble in this thread. Eclypsia is a legit team... deSrow and Scarlett confirmed this, there were other reasons as to their departure and it had nothing to do with the organization not delivering on their promises. Typical witch hunt, he says she says teamliquid at it again. "Big fan of compLexity" i lol'ed
Nice relevant post that contributed alot to this new article... I am blessed to have read it, appreciate the comment and will never forget it. /puke
I am a big fan of compLexity since 2004, not necessarily their team, but their management. They're probably the best organization out there but people don't know it yet. You'll see it in the future, and one day I'll be sure to message you and spit in your face when that time comes.
User was warned for this post
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Sjows one of my favourit players. Good luck even though I have to say going from Dignitas wich has proven to be a very stabile and well managed team to what seems to be the oposit in Ecly. But best of luck to all.
Will be really super weird not to see Sjow in that black and yellow hoodie now
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Nice play by Eclypsia, continuing to do good stuff. Hats off to them, best of luck Sjow.
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EC is going all-in!! good luck in EC SjoWie!
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On August 03 2012 21:38 Irave wrote:
Nice play by Eclypsia, continuing to do good stuff. Hats off to them, best of luck Sjow.
what good stuff? -.-
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I am very confused now. After all the bad pr? my mind hurts...
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I'm scratching my head over this. My head is bleeding. But no seriously I wonder what Eclypsia had to offer that Dignitas could not? Judging from a recent "Real Talk" show with Naniwa it could possibly be over salary. Whatever may be the reason I'm sad to see Sjow leave Dignitas I always think of him and Select first when I think of Dignitas. But best of luck to him and his endeavours!
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wait, the website is in french I CANT READ IT AAAA
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Congrats to both Sjow and Eclypsia.
Sometimes parts of this community make me scratch my head in confusion. As others have pointed out amongst the flood of "Why Eclypsia? They have such a bad reputation." Scarlett/Desrow leaving Eclypsia wasn't over money, it was over other internal issues, which as far as I'm aware we don't have the specifics of. It may have just been that Eclypsia was unable to fulfill an agreement or one of the players had expectations that couldn't be met at that time. Things change, teams can get better or worse but sometimes I get the feeling that if a team makes one misstep there are elements of this community that would forever believe they're a bad team (or conversely a perfect team if they had one shining moment of glory) and not want any players to give them a chance.
We're all spectators, we're just watching from the outside and we don't ever get the nitty gritty details or at least not all of them. Sjow is a professional and Sjow has to look out for Sjow's best interest. In all likelihood Sjow knows what we know, and Sjow has chosen to leave Dignitas and join Eclypsia which means that Sjow most likely knows something about Eclypsia that we do not. Perhaps Eclypsia will go on to be an absolutely amazing team, perhaps they've taken fan/player feedback to heart and made critical changes or perhaps the earlier drama was just a tragic misstep.
Maybe it is a bad team like some people say, maybe there will be financial issues, maybe a lot of things, but since Sjow is a professional we should give him the benefit of the doubt and think that for some reason he has reason to believe that this move is best for his future. Either way congratulations again to both Sjow and Eclypsia and I wish them all the best of luck.
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On August 02 2012 23:30 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 23:28 TylerThaCreator wrote:
I feel like this article was horribly translated...the terrible GOM.tv? Google translate bro, not my fault LOL. If someone wants to provide a better translation please post it.
Do you still want this re-translated? I can do it if you want, but I won't if you don't say anything (lazy).
Cheers.
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On August 04 2012 03:21 SolarXPn wrote:
Hmm this is strange
why is it strange`?
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How is this not strange. I have only heard negative things about this team. Why would you sign with a team that will more than likely screw you over?
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People still seems to be butthurt from the April Fool's joke..Btw Finland is not part of scandinavia therefore Welmu is not scandinavian.
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I think maybe they meant "merciless gomtv competition"
good luck sjow
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iiiiitttsss Sjow time.
Like everyone else, I too am a little confused. I mean I guess EC is a cool team, rooted for them vs the korean powerhouses in IPLTAC, but compared to d.? Hmmm well best of luck to Sjow, got my vote no matter the team. Kinda like Nani, which in his case in particular is important
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Wait what, is Sjow 26 years old :O?
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I wasn't sure if this was real or not, based on Eclypsia's past joke articles...
But apparently it is, and I respect SjoW, so best of luck to him. I hope he made the right decision, although I really liked him on Dignitas.
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Why join them o.o ?
He was having a bad time recently and he is one of those players that is always considered a "serious competition" regardless of results, much like White ra, Kas, Darkforce... etc
He really built his brand with dignitas and since he was still pro gaming at his age he was likely getting a salary that was "good enough" for him.
Joining a shady, shitty team is the exact move that ( if it goes wrong )could bring him from "not doing so well recently" level to obscurity level imo.
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Really looking forward to see him in some major tourneys again.
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Haha, wow, that is pretty amusing. Ruurk is clearly an EC account as well (even though he refers to EC's website as "their website") considering every single one of his 19 posts are on EC-related threads (including this one) defending and promoting EC. I guess he's at least a different person (or using a different IP) since he isn't banned.
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this is so not happening :c
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Why didn't he join this new team MorroW founded? He is swedish... and even NaNiWa joined so why wouldn't he?
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On August 08 2012 00:26 SharkStarcraft wrote:
Why didn't he join this new team MorroW founded? He is swedish... and even NaNiWa joined so why wouldn't he?
I hope this isn't a serious comment... xD
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On August 08 2012 00:32 bokchoi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 00:26 SharkStarcraft wrote:
Why didn't he join this new team MorroW founded? He is swedish... and even NaNiWa joined so why wouldn't he? I hope this isn't a serious comment... xD
I hope it's one :D
Would be so awesome
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