EPTOn July 31 2012 08:48 LamaMitHut wrote:
2 for every clanchange he had, wc3 and sc2 combined.
2 for every clanchange he had, wc3 and sc2 combined.
How do you possibly know this?
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On July 31 2012 08:46 ChoboDane wrote: I hope you're not suggesting Major isnt actually good. Major is as solid and legit as they come. He's never won or placed top 3 in anything noteworthy though. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/WinDy ... is he called windy now? | ||
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Caliber
United States598 Posts
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johnny123
521 Posts
On July 31 2012 08:45 Yaki wrote: Player A beating player B doesn't always mean that Player A is better than player B. SortOf beat naniwa twice recently, is he better than naniwa ? NO. Also, naniwa faced genius 3 times in the gsl and lost once out of these 3 encounters. Thank you for saying exactly my point, Yet you post with confidence that those 8 players are better. What a damn joke. And you forget to mention naniwa after loosing to genius once in the gsl, comes back in wins the 2nd set to advance threw the groups. While genius gets knocked out twice . Naniwa has proven himself in the gsl with his PvP and PvT. Just shut up hater. Alot of those protoss loose to foriegn zergs as well. It does not mean jack shit. Genius lost to rets zerg in dreamhack. Stephano just topples the majority of korean protoss no prob. A lot of these European zergs are beasts in the matchup and will take down koreans as well. So saying naniwa lost to some foreign scrub zerg does not prove anything on whether those 8 protoss you named are actually better. Some are better against certain races, but to conclusively say they are better? lawl. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
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Bam Lee
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SK could be possible, he seemed to be on good terms with mc over the past few weeks. Maybe an indicator? mtw is an option as well, they recently got supernova and might want to build up a roster capable of competing in team tournaments again? Fnatic seems obvious.Money+koreans,why not | ||
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
On July 31 2012 08:44 Demorase wrote: we'll see, never say never. a foreign guy that's actually good can be attractive to some korean teams, makes them stand out and stuff. No way a Korean team takes him, unless EG fronts Slayers like $100,000? The probe rush ruined any chance of that. Korean teams take that kind of stuff much more seriously than foreign teams, and they have better local talent to put their money into rather than disgracing their team with a progamer who does not compose himself like a professional. So if all Korean teams are out, the only team left that has the money to make Naniwa switch teams like this is EG. And EG obviously has no problem at all with aquiring someone who is seen as a bit of a "misfit." It doesn't matter if Idra doesn't like it, Idra isn't the one paying the bills at the EG house or signing the paychecks for the players. | ||
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On July 31 2012 08:45 FuzzyJAM wrote: Jjakji was fairly lucky to win Code S (look at his run - things fell into place for him in a way that isn't true for Seed or basically anyone else) and has been fairly unlucky since, putting up great games and barely losing to top opponents typically. He's still one of the best Terrans in the world as far as I'm concerned. Yeah and Seed was just one wrong FF away from losing to Byun (would it be 3:0 or 3:1)? Also, just from my personal PoV, when watching the games, I was not actually particulary impressed by him, aside from maybe series v Symbol. I was much more impressed by Oz at MLG or Alicia at MLGs/NASL then by Seed this GSL. But thats just my PoV. I just agree with the guy above, that Seed actually can do the same as Jjakji and fall out in a season or two... Also, you are NSHS fan, of course your terran ace is 'still one of the best Terrans in the world as far as you are concerned.' You wouldn't be the good enough fan if he weren't. But still, there is not many people who would say the same (for me, SaSe is one of the best protosses in the world, so yeah....) | ||
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
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Demorase
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and yet Startale had no problem having him in their bench during the GSTL. like i said, never... | ||
LamaMitHut
Germany187 Posts
it was a joke. but he had 8 clans in sc2, and he got a looooooooong history in wc3. fnatic, mym, wicked and mtw are former clans i remember. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 31 2012 08:54 Ammanas wrote: Yeah and Seed was just one wrong FF away from losing to Byun (would it be 3:0 or 3:1)? Also, just from my personal PoV, when watching the games, I was not actually particulary impressed by him, aside from maybe series v Symbol. I was much more impressed by Oz at MLG or Alicia at MLGs/NASL then by Seed this GSL. But thats just my PoV. I just agree with the guy above, that Seed actually can do the same as Jjakji and fall out in a season or two... Also, you are NSHS fan, of course your terran ace is 'still one of the best Terrans in the world as far as you are concerned.' You wouldn't be the good enough fan if he weren't. But still, there is not many people who would say the same (for me, SaSe is one of the best protosses in the world, so yeah....) If guys like Supernova who have never won anything can stay in Code S for 9 seasons there's no reason to believe a champion is going to drop out, don't act like one player sets the rules for everyone else. | ||
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
On July 31 2012 08:52 johnny123 wrote: Thank you for saying exactly my point, Yet you post with confidence that those 8 players are better. What a damn joke. And you forget to mention naniwa after loosing to genius once in the gsl, comes back in wins the 2nd set to advance threw the groups. While genius gets knocked out twice . Naniwa has proven himself in the gsl with his PvP and PvT. Just shut up hater. Alot of those protoss loose to foriegn zergs as well. It does not mean jack shit. Genius lost to rets zerg in dreamhack. Stephano just topples the majority of korean protoss no prob. A lot of these European zergs are beasts in the matchup and will take down koreans as well. So saying naniwa lost to some foreign scrub zerg does not prove anything on whether those 8 protoss you named are actually better. Some are better against certain races, but to conclusively say they are better? lawl. Ret and Stephano are actually top foreign zergs. Naniwa has been losing to a lot of unknown/up&coming zergs lately. Also I did mention that naniwa faced 3 times genius in the gsl but only lost once so I don't really understand the "you forget to mention naniwa after loosing to genius once in the gsl, comes back in wins the 2nd set to advance threw the groups" part. Reading your post, you seem pretty angry, just chill man, we can have a calm argument. | ||
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Repomies
Finland73 Posts
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fabulously
Norway724 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On July 31 2012 08:59 Repomies wrote: Naniwa joins the newly formed team ICA of Sweden. Woooow did NOT see that one coming :D I wonder how he likes it there since all the players are Swedish. Now let's see if SaSe follows not a real team... | ||
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alukarD
Mexico396 Posts
Mouz needs a powerful pickup, and NaNiWa is. Who knows. I'll support NaNiWa wherever he goes. | ||
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IRL_Sinister
Ireland621 Posts
On July 31 2012 08:59 Repomies wrote: Naniwa joins the newly formed team ICA of Sweden. Woooow did NOT see that one coming :D I wonder how he likes it there since all the players are Swedish. Now let's see if SaSe follows That thread seems legit. | ||
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thecoolman
United States38 Posts
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On July 31 2012 08:47 jmbthirteen wrote: Seed, just wins Code S, is not better than Naniwa.... Are you fucking kidding me dude? How the hell is Naniwa a better player than Seed? Well, thats because I was not particularly impressed with Seed's games in GSL, also I don't think he would do well in foreign tournaments (he took way too many risks/cut too many corners). I would put Creator over almost anyone on that list though, aside from MC. Imo he will just drop out to Code A (and not advance through up and downs) in 1-2 seasons... But still, it's my personal opinion, you don't need to agree with it. | ||
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