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On July 31 2012 04:53 legaton wrote:
I have a hard time understanding why "e-sports" is a reason enough to like a do something ("for the sake of e-sports" in the OP), specially when it comes down to promoting yet another generic song with the same beats i've heard at least a hundred time. This song is shit as most of the musical production of Korea is. I'm not saying koreans aren't capable of producing good music. I've had the luck of hearing a lot of concerts from one of the best, i believe, music directors alive today, Myung Chung, from the Orchestre Philarmonique de Radio France. But korean pop music is a match made in hell between girls/boys band from the eighties and kanye west copycats.
Whether it's 'good' or not is arguable and comes down to personal preference. But for the sake of e-sports, it will help. Getting an entertainer who is 1# on the Korean charts is great exposure/popularity boost. Having him performer is a great thing for e-sports.
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Not enough PSY. We require more Pylons.
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On July 31 2012 04:53 legaton wrote:
I have a hard time understanding why "e-sports" is a reason enough to like a do something ("for the sake of e-sports" in the OP), specially when it comes down to promoting yet another generic song with the same beats i've heard at least a hundred time. This song is shit as most of the musical production of Korea is. I'm not saying koreans aren't capable of producing good music. I've had the luck of hearing a lot of concerts from one of the best, i believe, music directors alive today, Myung Chung, from the Orchestre Philarmonique de Radio France. But korean pop music is a match made in hell between girls/boys band from the eighties and kanye west copycats.
so true
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the concept of 'esports' still enrages me
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The thing for me is that the song is already being driven into the ground, by the time the next 'gsl event' happens it will be even less relevant than it is now. It would have been perfect at the last GSTL finals.
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On July 31 2012 04:53 legaton wrote:
I have a hard time understanding why "e-sports" is a reason enough to like a do something ("for the sake of e-sports" in the OP), specially when it comes down to promoting yet another generic song with the same beats i've heard at least a hundred time. This song is shit as most of the musical production of Korea is. I'm not saying koreans aren't capable of producing good music. I've had the luck of hearing a lot of concerts from one of the best, i believe, music directors alive today, Myung Chung, from the Orchestre Philarmonique de Radio France. But korean pop music is a match made in hell between girls/boys band from the eighties and kanye west copycats.
If you don't like certain music, by all means go ahead. That is your personal opinion. However, you're not the ultimate judge of what's "good music" and "bad music" for everyone else. Realize that people around the world have widely different preferences and that often depends a lot on their cultural backgrounds. You're calling something "a match made in hell from the eighties and kanye west copycats" because you don't like it. Mentioning Chung does not excuse you from generalizing and degrading the entire Korean pop music industry.
I myself come from a classical music background and I have pretty clear likes and dislikes, but I don't go around saying "god, that country's pop music is garbage".
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On July 31 2012 04:53 legaton wrote:
I have a hard time understanding why "e-sports" is a reason enough to like a do something ("for the sake of e-sports" in the OP), specially when it comes down to promoting yet another generic song with the same beats i've heard at least a hundred time. This song is shit as most of the musical production of Korea is. I'm not saying koreans aren't capable of producing good music. I've had the luck of hearing a lot of concerts from one of the best, i believe, music directors alive today, Myung Chung, from the Orchestre Philarmonique de Radio France. But korean pop music is a match made in hell between girls/boys band from the eighties and kanye west copycats.
Oh the irony....
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PSY performing at the GSL would be so cool! I hope it happens.
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FOR STARCRAFT! see ya League of Lossers
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On July 31 2012 08:47 Sein wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 04:53 legaton wrote:
I have a hard time understanding why "e-sports" is a reason enough to like a do something ("for the sake of e-sports" in the OP), specially when it comes down to promoting yet another generic song with the same beats i've heard at least a hundred time. This song is shit as most of the musical production of Korea is. I'm not saying koreans aren't capable of producing good music. I've had the luck of hearing a lot of concerts from one of the best, i believe, music directors alive today, Myung Chung, from the Orchestre Philarmonique de Radio France. But korean pop music is a match made in hell between girls/boys band from the eighties and kanye west copycats. If you don't like certain music, by all means go ahead. That is your personal opinion. However, you're not the ultimate judge of what's "good music" and "bad music" for everyone else. Realize that people around the world have widely different preferences and that often depends a lot on their cultural backgrounds. You're calling something "a match made in hell from the eighties and kanye west copycats" because you don't like it. Mentioning Chung does not excuse you from generalizing and degrading the entire Korean pop music industry. I myself come from a classical music background and I have pretty clear likes and dislikes, but I don't go around saying "god, that country's pop music is garbage".
I think it's safe to say he was calling any country's pop music garbage.
For the most part, he's right. It's intentionally unoriginal, and pretty much removes any creativity from the equation. It's totally okay to like garbage music... I find some of it catchy... but it's still garbage.
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On July 31 2012 09:26 discomatt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 08:47 Sein wrote:On July 31 2012 04:53 legaton wrote:
I have a hard time understanding why "e-sports" is a reason enough to like a do something ("for the sake of e-sports" in the OP), specially when it comes down to promoting yet another generic song with the same beats i've heard at least a hundred time. This song is shit as most of the musical production of Korea is. I'm not saying koreans aren't capable of producing good music. I've had the luck of hearing a lot of concerts from one of the best, i believe, music directors alive today, Myung Chung, from the Orchestre Philarmonique de Radio France. But korean pop music is a match made in hell between girls/boys band from the eighties and kanye west copycats. If you don't like certain music, by all means go ahead. That is your personal opinion. However, you're not the ultimate judge of what's "good music" and "bad music" for everyone else. Realize that people around the world have widely different preferences and that often depends a lot on their cultural backgrounds. You're calling something "a match made in hell from the eighties and kanye west copycats" because you don't like it. Mentioning Chung does not excuse you from generalizing and degrading the entire Korean pop music industry. I myself come from a classical music background and I have pretty clear likes and dislikes, but I don't go around saying "god, that country's pop music is garbage". I think it's safe to say he was calling any country's pop music garbage. For the most part, he's right. It's intentionally unoriginal, and pretty much removes any creativity from the equation. It's totally okay to like garbage music... I find some of it catchy... but it's still garbage.
you dont get the point
the problem is that people like you calling other people's taste as garbage and don't understand why there is a backlash against you.
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On July 31 2012 09:26 discomatt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 08:47 Sein wrote:On July 31 2012 04:53 legaton wrote:
I have a hard time understanding why "e-sports" is a reason enough to like a do something ("for the sake of e-sports" in the OP), specially when it comes down to promoting yet another generic song with the same beats i've heard at least a hundred time. This song is shit as most of the musical production of Korea is. I'm not saying koreans aren't capable of producing good music. I've had the luck of hearing a lot of concerts from one of the best, i believe, music directors alive today, Myung Chung, from the Orchestre Philarmonique de Radio France. But korean pop music is a match made in hell between girls/boys band from the eighties and kanye west copycats. If you don't like certain music, by all means go ahead. That is your personal opinion. However, you're not the ultimate judge of what's "good music" and "bad music" for everyone else. Realize that people around the world have widely different preferences and that often depends a lot on their cultural backgrounds. You're calling something "a match made in hell from the eighties and kanye west copycats" because you don't like it. Mentioning Chung does not excuse you from generalizing and degrading the entire Korean pop music industry. I myself come from a classical music background and I have pretty clear likes and dislikes, but I don't go around saying "god, that country's pop music is garbage". I think it's safe to say he was calling any country's pop music garbage. For the most part, he's right. It's intentionally unoriginal, and pretty much removes any creativity from the equation. It's totally okay to like garbage music... I find some of it catchy... but it's still garbage.
In what sense is it garbage?
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On July 31 2012 09:42 Klyberess wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 09:26 discomatt wrote:On July 31 2012 08:47 Sein wrote:On July 31 2012 04:53 legaton wrote:
I have a hard time understanding why "e-sports" is a reason enough to like a do something ("for the sake of e-sports" in the OP), specially when it comes down to promoting yet another generic song with the same beats i've heard at least a hundred time. This song is shit as most of the musical production of Korea is. I'm not saying koreans aren't capable of producing good music. I've had the luck of hearing a lot of concerts from one of the best, i believe, music directors alive today, Myung Chung, from the Orchestre Philarmonique de Radio France. But korean pop music is a match made in hell between girls/boys band from the eighties and kanye west copycats. If you don't like certain music, by all means go ahead. That is your personal opinion. However, you're not the ultimate judge of what's "good music" and "bad music" for everyone else. Realize that people around the world have widely different preferences and that often depends a lot on their cultural backgrounds. You're calling something "a match made in hell from the eighties and kanye west copycats" because you don't like it. Mentioning Chung does not excuse you from generalizing and degrading the entire Korean pop music industry. I myself come from a classical music background and I have pretty clear likes and dislikes, but I don't go around saying "god, that country's pop music is garbage". I think it's safe to say he was calling any country's pop music garbage. For the most part, he's right. It's intentionally unoriginal, and pretty much removes any creativity from the equation. It's totally okay to like garbage music... I find some of it catchy... but it's still garbage. In what sense is it garbage?
Because he doesn't like it.
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Psy performing at GSL would be amazing.
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On July 31 2012 09:42 Klyberess wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 09:26 discomatt wrote:On July 31 2012 08:47 Sein wrote:On July 31 2012 04:53 legaton wrote:
I have a hard time understanding why "e-sports" is a reason enough to like a do something ("for the sake of e-sports" in the OP), specially when it comes down to promoting yet another generic song with the same beats i've heard at least a hundred time. This song is shit as most of the musical production of Korea is. I'm not saying koreans aren't capable of producing good music. I've had the luck of hearing a lot of concerts from one of the best, i believe, music directors alive today, Myung Chung, from the Orchestre Philarmonique de Radio France. But korean pop music is a match made in hell between girls/boys band from the eighties and kanye west copycats. If you don't like certain music, by all means go ahead. That is your personal opinion. However, you're not the ultimate judge of what's "good music" and "bad music" for everyone else. Realize that people around the world have widely different preferences and that often depends a lot on their cultural backgrounds. You're calling something "a match made in hell from the eighties and kanye west copycats" because you don't like it. Mentioning Chung does not excuse you from generalizing and degrading the entire Korean pop music industry. I myself come from a classical music background and I have pretty clear likes and dislikes, but I don't go around saying "god, that country's pop music is garbage". I think it's safe to say he was calling any country's pop music garbage. For the most part, he's right. It's intentionally unoriginal, and pretty much removes any creativity from the equation. It's totally okay to like garbage music... I find some of it catchy... but it's still garbage. In what sense is it garbage?
did you not read his post? "it's intentionally unoriginal" which is dead on and is a perfectly good reason.
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are you guys seriously discussing the same nonsense bans were dropped for like ten hours ago?
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On July 31 2012 09:48 CuSToM wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 09:42 Klyberess wrote:On July 31 2012 09:26 discomatt wrote:On July 31 2012 08:47 Sein wrote:On July 31 2012 04:53 legaton wrote:
I have a hard time understanding why "e-sports" is a reason enough to like a do something ("for the sake of e-sports" in the OP), specially when it comes down to promoting yet another generic song with the same beats i've heard at least a hundred time. This song is shit as most of the musical production of Korea is. I'm not saying koreans aren't capable of producing good music. I've had the luck of hearing a lot of concerts from one of the best, i believe, music directors alive today, Myung Chung, from the Orchestre Philarmonique de Radio France. But korean pop music is a match made in hell between girls/boys band from the eighties and kanye west copycats. If you don't like certain music, by all means go ahead. That is your personal opinion. However, you're not the ultimate judge of what's "good music" and "bad music" for everyone else. Realize that people around the world have widely different preferences and that often depends a lot on their cultural backgrounds. You're calling something "a match made in hell from the eighties and kanye west copycats" because you don't like it. Mentioning Chung does not excuse you from generalizing and degrading the entire Korean pop music industry. I myself come from a classical music background and I have pretty clear likes and dislikes, but I don't go around saying "god, that country's pop music is garbage". I think it's safe to say he was calling any country's pop music garbage. For the most part, he's right. It's intentionally unoriginal, and pretty much removes any creativity from the equation. It's totally okay to like garbage music... I find some of it catchy... but it's still garbage. In what sense is it garbage? did you not read his post? "it's intentionally unoriginal" which is dead on and is a perfectly good reason.
Well, then he just called 90% of everything garbage including this forum since its made for a sequel which guess what, is intentional unoriginal.
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On July 31 2012 09:48 CuSToM wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 09:42 Klyberess wrote:On July 31 2012 09:26 discomatt wrote:On July 31 2012 08:47 Sein wrote:On July 31 2012 04:53 legaton wrote:
I have a hard time understanding why "e-sports" is a reason enough to like a do something ("for the sake of e-sports" in the OP), specially when it comes down to promoting yet another generic song with the same beats i've heard at least a hundred time. This song is shit as most of the musical production of Korea is. I'm not saying koreans aren't capable of producing good music. I've had the luck of hearing a lot of concerts from one of the best, i believe, music directors alive today, Myung Chung, from the Orchestre Philarmonique de Radio France. But korean pop music is a match made in hell between girls/boys band from the eighties and kanye west copycats. If you don't like certain music, by all means go ahead. That is your personal opinion. However, you're not the ultimate judge of what's "good music" and "bad music" for everyone else. Realize that people around the world have widely different preferences and that often depends a lot on their cultural backgrounds. You're calling something "a match made in hell from the eighties and kanye west copycats" because you don't like it. Mentioning Chung does not excuse you from generalizing and degrading the entire Korean pop music industry. I myself come from a classical music background and I have pretty clear likes and dislikes, but I don't go around saying "god, that country's pop music is garbage". I think it's safe to say he was calling any country's pop music garbage. For the most part, he's right. It's intentionally unoriginal, and pretty much removes any creativity from the equation. It's totally okay to like garbage music... I find some of it catchy... but it's still garbage. In what sense is it garbage? did you not read his post? "it's intentionally unoriginal" which is dead on and is a perfectly good reason.
Well, it doesn't make much sense to say that garbage is intentionally unoriginal, does it? If he dislikes it, that's fine, but he seems to think he's doing something more than uttering his personal preference. (He's not.)
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It's okay. I hate Kpop, I really do, but irreverence makes anything good. I watch those other Kpop videos where I'm supposed to take these "singers" seriously, like they all gathered, wrote and composed this fluff themselves, sincerely... and the accompanying video is some dramatic short story about a girl who owns a shop, or is visiting a shop, and is in love with some metrosexual male who also happens to be there....
Then I see PSY, and I feel better about the whole genre. "Take a shot of me rapping and then zoom out to show me sitting on a toilet." That suits me better. And honestly, yes, it suits pop music better.
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EPT
