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dragonborn
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GSL Players Bracket #1 - http://leveltory.com/wcg2012_kt_preliminary2 GSL Players Bracket #2 - http://leveltory.com/wcg2012_kt_preliminary3 Some Notable matches for Round of 1:  JYP vs  CuriousPuzzle vs LifeNesTea vs  aLiveCreator vs RyungSniper vs Byunfinale vs LosirAFirst vs LeenockHack vs sculpSymbol vs TearMvp seeded into main bracket. | ||
opterown
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Dodgin
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Fionn
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
(Nestea vs aLive) vs (Creator vs Ryung), what the heck WCG bracket makers YuGiOh's bracket looks totally winnable, and we all know he is beast at qualifiers wooohoooo | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
byun/taeja/sniper/moon second DEATH | ||
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
On July 26 2012 12:49 ZenithM wrote: Shit MKP is in the same bracket as Leenock. That'll be a tough fight. MKP didnt lose a single bo3 against Leenock. He is like 8-2 against him. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
Sniper vs Byunfinale vs LosirAIMFirst vs LeenockHack vs sculpSymbol vs Tear | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 26 2012 12:51 dragonborn wrote: MKP didnt lose a single bo3 against Leenock. He is like 8-2 against him. lost in HSC qualifiers recently also in IPL TAC | ||
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lichter
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On July 26 2012 12:51 dragonborn wrote: MKP didnt lose a single bo3 against Leenock. He is like 8-2 against him. Times have changed, MKP's TvZ is not what it once was I fear. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 26 2012 12:52 lichter wrote: Is Mvp already seeded since he won last year? Yes looks like he is seeded past the qualifiers and straight into the WCG Korea tournament. I looked through to see if maybe all 3 representatives of Korea from 2011 were seeded but Marineking and Supernova's names are there so I guess only Mvp is seeded. | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 26 2012 12:53 Dodgin wrote: I think they listed Supernova as Protoss by mistake, because I can't find his name anywhere else on there. Yes looks like he is seeded past the qualifiers and straight into the WCG Korea tournament. I looked through to see if maybe all 3 representatives of Korea from 2011 were seeded but Marineking and Supernova's names are there so I guess only Mvp is seeded. Yeah I figured he'd get seeded into the main Korea tournament. They should probably just send him straight to the WCG main tournament as Defending Champion though? Kinda weird not to have the defending champ there. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
And KT.hitmaN, the bonjwa of our time, is in the group with Horang2, BaBy, Fantasy, and hyvaa, among others. | ||
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United States97276 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 26 2012 12:56 eviltomahawk wrote: Woah, the group with Skyhigh, Lizzy, Soulkey, and Light looks crazy. And KT.hitmaN, the bonjwa of our time, is in the group with Horang2, BaBy, Fantasy, and hyvaa, among others. Ohhh I am ashamed I missed his name. He's definitely going to deserve the new bonjwa of our times title if he beats Horang, BaBy and Fantasy. | ||
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JJH777
United States4414 Posts
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
On July 26 2012 12:52 opterown wrote: lost in HSC qualifiers recently also in IPL TAC I watched every single MKP vs Leenock games in GSL. I feel like Leenock's style not good against MKP. On July 26 2012 13:00 JJH777 wrote: Nestea vs Alive first round is such bad seeding. Winner of that match will play against Ryung/Creator :d | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On July 26 2012 12:56 lichter wrote: Yeah I figured he'd get seeded into the main Korea tournament. They should probably just send him straight to the WCG main tournament as Defending Champion though? Kinda weird not to have the defending champ there. I don't think WCG did defending champ seed for BW either so it seems ok. 13 Kespa and 17 Non-Kespa = 30 players + IMMVP + 1 Kespa seed(All the top Kespa players seemed account for...) = 32 man group stage? | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
He won't make it with how he's been playing :/ | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On July 26 2012 12:57 Shellshock1122 wrote: You guys talking about MKP vs Leenock... I'm just hoping he makes it through Slayers_Dark in the first round T_T Haha we prefer not to think about the worst case scenarios :D | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 26 2012 13:02 dragonborn wrote: I watched every single MKP vs Leenock games in GSL. I feel like Leenock's style not good against MKP. that was prepatch and pre-mkp tvz derp haha | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 26 2012 12:56 lichter wrote: Yeah I figured he'd get seeded into the main Korea tournament. They should probably just send him straight to the WCG main tournament as Defending Champion though? Kinda weird not to have the defending champ there. Well the WCG Korea tournament picks the three representatives of Korea each year, top 3 of the tournament go to the grand finals. You can't just seed the previous winner in every year since you only get 3 spots into the finals It's not really fair to the other players. If Mvp earns it by winning WCG Korea again ( or anywhere in the top 3 ) he can go back to defend his title. WCG Korea is actually much harder to win than the WCG grand finals themselves. although Marineking and Supernova did not actually make it to the finals of the WCG last year, getting eliminated before they got there by foreigners. Mvp ended up carrying the flag for Korea winning both tournaments. Unless WCG came up with some new rule that the winner of the previous year gets seeded in again and skips any nationals, and still gives 3 spots to WCG Korea it doesn't really make sense. It's silly that only 3 people from a country so full of talent get to represent Korea in the finals, but I guess that keeps it more fair for foreigners and keeps WCG what it's supposed to be about. | ||
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deadmau
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
On July 26 2012 12:47 Dodgin wrote: Bisu's group actually looks fairly doable...YOU CAN DO IT BEESUIT If I had a penny every time... | ||
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NHY
1013 Posts
On July 26 2012 13:02 vthree wrote: I don't think WCG did defending champ seed for BW either so it seems ok. 13 Kespa and 17 Non-Kespa = 30 players + IMMVP + 1 Kespa seed(All the top Kespa players seemed account for...) = 32 man group stage? No, it will be 13 Kespa + 17 Non-Kespa = 30 players qualifier round 1 -> 15 players + MVP = 16 players qualifier round 2 -> Final 3 goes to WCG | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 26 2012 13:10 NHY wrote: No, it will be 13 Kespa + 17 Non-Kespa = 30 players qualifier round 1 -> 15 players + MVP = 16 players qualifier round 2 -> Final 3 goes to WCG ah cool makes sense~ tyty | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4516 Posts
On July 26 2012 12:48 Fionn wrote: Oh shit, potential DRG vs. Polt final. hah, in your dreams! | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On July 26 2012 13:10 NHY wrote: No, it will be 13 Kespa + 17 Non-Kespa = 30 players qualifier round 1 -> 15 players + MVP = 16 players qualifier round 2 -> Final 3 goes to WCG Ah, this makes more sense and it rewards MVP by giving him seed to Ro16. But 30 players --> 15 will be different. Can't do Dual tournament. I guess they can have 5 groups of 6 and do round robin and top 3 advances? Or they can do 1v1 but would seem weird. Also, it seems the schedule will be Kespa on 27th, Groups 1-9 non Kespa on 28th, Group 10-17 non Kespa on 29th (all FXO, Slayers are in these groups to avoid conflict with GSTL) | ||
GTR
51497 Posts
also interesting to see ggaemo and beast[kaL] in the kespa qualifier (ggaemo didnt turn up for the osl qualifier and beast[kal] wasn't even a participant) | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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Solid`Blazed
Malaysia91 Posts
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Xtreme94
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.Wraath
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 26 2012 13:41 .Wraath wrote: GOM is casting these correct? Will there be any free vods? (sorry if noobie question )OGN did the production for WCG Korea last year but it was also streamed on GOM, all the vods were ( and still are ) free. You can find them on GOM's website. GOM is broadcasting WCS Korea so OGN might do WCG to split the workload, I don't think anyone knows for sure yet. | ||
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nmetasch
United States600 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
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Dakure
United States513 Posts
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
I believe in you though! Jo Byung Se hwaiting~~~ | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
http://www.gomtv.net/2012wcg/ http://www.gomtv.net/2012wcg/news/70333 http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=223437&cid=0&kind=8 | ||
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s1ege
Korea (South)123 Posts
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SilentSC2
United States505 Posts
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System42
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On July 26 2012 14:32 s1ege wrote: Does Mvp get a seed? Read the whole thing before talking please. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 26 2012 14:32 s1ege wrote: Does Mvp get a seed? On July 26 2012 13:10 NHY wrote: No, it will be 13 Kespa + 17 Non-Kespa = 30 players qualifier round 1 -> 15 players + MVP = 16 players qualifier round 2 -> Final 3 goes to WCG | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On July 26 2012 13:49 nmetasch wrote: I'm not a fan of the segregation of brackets between Kespa and GSL players... the second Kespa players catch up this type of segregated bracketing will disapear, and should the GSL players fall behind, theres not a snowballs chance in hell that the SC2 scene will cater to the GSL players by giving them seperate bracketing... It all seems very biased, everyone is trying so hard to protect Kespas interests. I guess it's necessary though, we do need Kespa to successfully integrate into SC2 to bring over the BW viewerbase.. I actually think this is ok for the first few tournaments. We have to remember that in Korea, the BW teams have the big sponsors. As we have seen in the WCS qualifiers, although BW pros are playing well, they would be hard press to make it through mixed brackets (only Reality made it thru and a few others got to finals). Then we would basically have GSL players in OSL, WCS and WCG while Kespa players only have PL. I don't think sponsors will be too happy about that. Of course, viewer base is important as well. It is sort of like foreign tournaments holding qualifiers for each region (the server lag plays a part but let's be honest, plenty of koreans can qualify playing on EU/NA servers). Also, this is just for the qualifiers and to make it to WCG, you need to make top 3 so I think it is fine. It is not like Kespa gets 1 of the seeds and non Kespa gets the other 2. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
looks like 15 bo3 though to select from 30 -> 15! | ||
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NHY
1013 Posts
On July 26 2012 16:39 opterown wrote: schedule is a tad confusing hrmm http://leveltory.com/12874 looks like 15 bo3 though to select from 30 -> 15! Yeah and it seems we will have 2 Kespa vs Kespa 4 non-Kespa vs non-Kespa 9 Kespa vs non-Kespa | ||
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OnFiRe888
United States629 Posts
edit: nvm^ They are determining all 3 seeds for the wcg grand finals this weekend? That's really unfourtunate, I liked how they did it last year where it was drawn out and every match was broadcast. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 26 2012 16:50 OnFiRe888 wrote: Wait, there are only 30 spots open in the qualifiers, and 1 goes to mvp, any idea what happened to the last spot? edit: nvm^ They are determining all 3 seeds for the wcg grand finals this weekend? That's really unfourtunate, I liked how they did it last year where it was drawn out and every match was broadcast. 30 spots from qualifiers --> 15 bo3 to select 15 these 15 + mvp -> play tournament to determine top3 | ||
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OnFiRe888
United States629 Posts
On July 26 2012 17:09 opterown wrote: 30 spots from qualifiers --> 15 bo3 to select 15 these 15 + mvp -> play tournament to determine top3 All of that is being done this weekend? | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
i think the 30 bo3 are on august 1st, not sure about the rest though WCS already is pretty full-on. we'll see with further announcements i guess | ||
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OnFiRe888
United States629 Posts
On July 26 2012 17:16 opterown wrote: i think the 30 bo3 are on august 1st, not sure about the rest though WCS already is pretty full-on. we'll see with further announcements i guess Actually, the way I'm interpreting the page is this: Day 1- kespa prelims Day 2- non-kespa prelims Day 3- first 10 bo3s (out of the 15) of the preliminary winners Day 4- (which is oddly enough 2 days after day 3) the last 5 bo2s of the preliminary winners. ^day 4 is also not listed on the gom page or schedule, so I wonder if gom knows that this is supposed to be a 4 day qualifier. It is unclear as to what they will do the 15 bo3 winners + MVP. Perhaps there is hope that it will be long and drawn out like last year. =D Hopefully there will be an english stream too. It's also weird that the 2nd group of kespa players are scheduled to be playing on aug 1. If that is true, this whole qualifier does not make sense to me. -_- It's disappointing to see so much potential in a tournament, but terrible clarification. Hopefully stuff gets sorted out soon enough. | ||
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bgx
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 26 2012 17:23 OnFiRe888 wrote: Actually, the way I'm interpreting the page is this: Day 1- kespa prelims Day 2- non-kespa prelims Day 3- first 10 bo3s (out of the 15) of the preliminary winners Day 4- (which is oddly enough 2 days after day 3) the last 5 bo2s of the preliminary winners. ^day 4 is also not listed on the gom page or schedule, so I wonder if gom knows that this is supposed to be a 4 day qualifier. It is unclear as to what they will do the 15 bo3 winners + MVP. Perhaps there is hope that it will be long and drawn out like last year. =D Hopefully there will be an english stream too. It's also weird that the 2nd group of kespa players are scheduled to be playing on aug 1. If that is true, this whole qualifier does not make sense to me. -_- It's disappointing to see so much potential in a tournament, but terrible clarification. Hopefully stuff gets sorted out soon enough. hmm day 1 - kespa prelims day 2 - nonkespa prelims groups 1-9 day 3 - nonkespa prelims groups 10-17 (since too many groups and also slayers/fxo are busy on day 2 with GSTL) AND 10 BO3 (these 10 are between some kespa players and nonkespa groups 1-9) day 4 - 5 BO3 (between nonkespa groups 10-17 and the rest of the kespa players) i think. | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On July 26 2012 17:30 opterown wrote: hmm day 1 - kespa prelims day 2 - nonkespa prelims groups 1-9 day 3 - nonkespa prelims groups 10-17 (since too many groups and also slayers/fxo are busy on day 2 with GSTL) AND 10 BO3 (these 10 are between some kespa players and nonkespa groups 1-9) day 4 - 5 BO3 (between nonkespa groups 10-17 and the rest of the kespa players) i think. Thats only for qualis? Holy shit. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Inca got that E Z :D | ||
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Yes, last year, basically it is Code B qualifiers (but with ALL players except 8 seeds) + Code S (32 man 2 group stages, then 8 man single elim) all rolled into 1 and took like 3 months (aug 6th - Nov 13). This year, it will be slightly shorter since we will have single elim until Ro16 (not sure what happens after that) but we have Kespa players as well so the tournament is huge. The number of full time pro players in Korea is probably close to the rest of the world combined. And MC's comment sort of makes sense. Maybe he was originally slotted for day 3 which was going to conflict with ASUS ROG. All the players going to ASUS ROG are scheduled to play on Day 2 EXCEPT Hero. Not sure what is up with that. Maybe he plans to play on Aug 1st and then head straight to the airport to make it in time for ASUS ROG on the 2nd. | ||
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opterown
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Aunvilgod
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
something like - final MLG event (e.g. on the scale of providence versus other MLGs of 2011) WCS blizzard cup (final GSL event) dreamhack winter and also for team events - IPL TAC GSTL KSL SPL ?? | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On July 26 2012 19:45 opterown wrote: hero plays on the 3rd at ROG so he has time i think! Nope, all groups at ROG gets played on the 2nd, however, Hero is in the late session. The 3rd is already second stage. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 26 2012 21:59 vthree wrote: Nope, all groups at ROG gets played on the 2nd, however, Hero is in the late session. The 3rd is already second stage. oops haha oh ye | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On July 26 2012 21:49 Aunvilgod wrote: Mvp won so much stuff in 2011 that it is still enough for the second half of 2012. True. But remember he won GSL season 2 as well which is what got him the WCS seed. OSL seed was from being the top Terran in terms of results and WCG seed is because he is defending champ at WCG Korea and WCG itself. | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
On July 26 2012 22:04 vthree wrote: True. But remember he won GSL season 2 as well which is what got him the WCS seed. OSL seed was from being the top Terran in terms of results and WCG seed is because he is defending champ at WCG Korea and WCG itself. Mvp is smart enough to win only the big things lol | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Assuming he gets through his WCG group, he will still have one more best of 3 against another group winner so it is probably be pretty late Korea time when he finishes. If he has booked a late flight, due to time difference, he will arrive at ROG early morning of the 3rd. Which still gives him quite a bit of time to rest since his group doesn't start until 7PM local time. So I think he should be fine. He has Socke, Elfi and SortOf in his group. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
too many tourney these days I guess | ||
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rave[wcr]
United States1166 Posts
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
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Sumahi
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 26 2012 23:03 silent_owl wrote: Where is Jaedong?O_O group 10 http://leveltory.com/wcg2012_kt_preliminary1 | ||
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Flossy
United States870 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On July 26 2012 21:52 opterown wrote: man we should totally have a grand slam of sc2 events something like - final MLG event (e.g. on the scale of providence versus other MLGs of 2011) WCS blizzard cup (final GSL event) dreamhack winter and also for team events - IPL TAC GSTL KSL SPL ?? It would be nice if all the premier/major tournament built up to one titanic event. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 27 2012 04:57 CosmicSpiral wrote: It would be nice if all the premier/major tournament built up to one titanic event. Well they kind of do, that's what the Blizzard cup was. Inviting the champions of lots of tournaments and the top of GSL points, which are the GSL champions. | ||
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Sabre
United Kingdom1086 Posts
On July 26 2012 22:14 Arceus wrote: 3 days? WCG is supposed to be played in months and it was as hard as any starleague too many tourney these days I guess its just WCG Korea | ||
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ragz_gt
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Fleuria
England466 Posts
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Darneck
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On July 27 2012 04:58 Dodgin wrote: Well they kind of do, that's what the Blizzard cup was. Inviting the champions of lots of tournaments and the top of GSL points, which are the GSL champions. They ought to be hard qualifications across a wide range of tournaments: the winner of Dreamhack gets a spot, the winner of GSL4 gets a spot, the winner of IPL4 gets a spot, etc. | ||
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Skwid1g
United States953 Posts
On July 26 2012 13:49 nmetasch wrote: I'm not a fan of the segregation of brackets between Kespa and GSL players... the second Kespa players catch up this type of segregated bracketing will disapear, and should the GSL players fall behind, theres not a snowballs chance in hell that the SC2 scene will cater to the GSL players by giving them seperate bracketing... It all seems very biased, everyone is trying so hard to protect Kespas interests. I guess it's necessary though, we do need Kespa to successfully integrate into SC2 to bring over the BW viewerbase.. One group has a few weeks of full sc2 practice, the other has 2+ years. I think it's fair; if the GSL players fall behind it's due to lack of skill, not starting 2 years behind the other group of players. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 27 2012 05:27 CosmicSpiral wrote: They ought to be hard qualifications across a wide range of tournaments: the winner of Dreamhack gets a spot, the winner of GSL4 gets a spot, the winner of IPL4 gets a spot, etc. GSL winners 1-5 get a spot Winner of final MLG event gets a spot (on the scale of providence) Winner of final IPL event gets a spot (assuming each IPL event gets bigger) winner of final dreamhack gets a spot (assuming each DH event gets bigger) MVP of winning team in SPL and GSTL and IPLTAC get a spot etc etc that would be awesome~ | ||
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OnFiRe888
United States629 Posts
On July 27 2012 07:11 opterown wrote: GSL winners 1-5 get a spot Winner of final MLG event gets a spot (on the scale of providence) Winner of final IPL event gets a spot (assuming each IPL event gets bigger) winner of final dreamhack gets a spot (assuming each DH event gets bigger) MVP of winning team in SPL and GSTL and IPLTAC get a spot etc etc that would be awesome~ Let's not get too ahead of ourselves guys. Remember, because of wcs korea, gom is going to be down a month when it comes to casting sc2. I would be surprised to see them finish a fifth gsl season by the end of the year at the pace they are going. =/ Honestly, it doesn't bother me too much either, longer tournaments = bigger buildup = not crap finals. XD | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 27 2012 09:07 OnFiRe888 wrote: Let's not get too ahead of ourselves guys. Remember, because of wcs korea, gom is going to be down a month when it comes to casting sc2. I would be surprised to see them finish a fifth gsl season by the end of the year at the pace they are going. =/ Honestly, it doesn't bother me too much either, longer tournaments = bigger buildup = not crap finals. XD they have season 4 and 5 and a blizzcup lined up for the rest of the year ;D not many off-weeks haha | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On July 27 2012 10:07 opterown wrote: they have season 4 and 5 and a blizzcup lined up for the rest of the year ;D not many off-weeks haha August - WCS Korea End of August/September/October - GSL S4 End of October/November/December - GSL 5 End of December/Beggining of January - Blizzard Cup Probably something like that. | ||
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Darneck
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OnFiRe888
United States629 Posts
On July 27 2012 10:07 opterown wrote: they have season 4 and 5 and a blizzcup lined up for the rest of the year ;D not many off-weeks haha Are you sure? Any "proof"? | ||
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AndAgain
United States2621 Posts
On July 27 2012 11:48 Darneck wrote: The kespa portion of this starts in 3 hours? Yeah, looks like it. http://www.gomtv.net/2012wcg/news/70333 | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
Sweet! This is a nice surprise, gives me something to watch while I fight off sleep waiting for the GSL finals :D | ||
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JSy
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/dLpmr.jpg) | ||
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GTR
51497 Posts
It's okay, KTX got sold out quickly this morning, so I'll probably head to e-Stars tomorrow. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
gom korean site google calendar. obviously not set in stone, but they're planning something like that | ||
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kochanfe
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Clefairy
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
live report!! | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
On July 27 2012 12:41 kochanfe wrote: First and LoSirA have links to their BW tlpd entries. that's not first anyways ^.^. he's anyppi | ||
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