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P7GAB
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada486 Posts
August 06 2012 23:24 GMT
#421
I dont understand if they released him from the team are they not expecting him to look for another team?
RinconH
Profile Joined April 2010
United States512 Posts
August 06 2012 23:28 GMT
#422
The most hilarious thing about this thread is people hand wringing over "all the drama in SC2".

One, they are reading this thread.

Two, "drama" is good for the scene. It shows it is healthy and people care. All human societies love drama (read: gossip).
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
August 06 2012 23:37 GMT
#423
Its true we don't know what really happened in either this case or the Golden case but a team manager making public tweets about internal conflicts is completely unprofessional even if she is 100% in the right. Jessica needs to exercise more self-restraint.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
August 06 2012 23:55 GMT
#424
oh cella where are you? we need you more than ever
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
August 06 2012 23:55 GMT
#425
On August 07 2012 06:57 Robbie! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 13:15 Waxangel wrote:
Has Jessica ever not made herself look like the bad guy in these situations ?

True that, I feel like a similar thing happened to Dragon when he left the team, she put words in Dragons mouth making him out to be the problem, but this Crank problem kind of reassures the fact that she is just a little protective over her players, or what ever she seems to be pulling. In the mean time I feel bad for crank, can't imagine the stress of these childish "twitter wars" Jessica is provoking, while trying to find a foreign team.

Funny how people conveniently forget how there was no drama when Sleep, Golden, GanZi and TaeJa left.

This pretty much looks like CranK's fault, you don't announce to your fans that you've left your team when you have not even given your team notice.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
August 07 2012 00:18 GMT
#426
On August 07 2012 04:38 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 03:54 DeekZ wrote:
Someone in the SlayerS management really needs to stand up to Jessica and tell her to stop making these tweets, I don't think there's been a single fucking bit of SlayerS drama that she hasn't aired out on twitter and just made the entire thing a huge PR nightmare for them.

No wonder the Koreans on the team don't want to stick around, she acts like it's one big happy family and she's like the mother, but really it sounds more like she's a monarch and everyone else has to be an ass-kissing peasant.

She comes across as the bad guy every single time she does this as well, what a fucking disaster she is for SlayerS.

Has less to do with Jessica and more to do with people harping on about shit that any person would do. Do you really believe that anyone would have said anything about this if Jessica hadn't done that legal thing when Eve got harassed? People are just incapable of seeing anything for what it is. The community has decided to Jessica is an overreactive bitch, so every time she says ANYTHING it's perceived that way. Hell, she cried after Slayers won and some idiot actually made a thread about it showing trouble in her relationship with Boxer.

Come on guys, get a fucking grip. Crank is in the wrong here, and I say that as a fan of him. He should not be tweeting about management issues when he is a player. It's simply not his jurisdiction. Furthermore, Jessica has said nothing negative about Crank until Crank started to bait her out. Like what the fuck? Do you think you could do that shit in real life and get away with it? "Oh, my CEO just let me take some time off even though my reason isn't great. I guess I should probably talk about all the problems with the company in public while I'm away. That's going to work awesomely."

Jesus Christ.

This is right.

Have you heard anything about girl gamers getting harassed that harsh (posting her face on naked porn star's body...) anymore ever since Eve events? No. Jessica might do something that some people consider crazy, but she was still in the right. If not because of her aggressiveness about Eve event, there might be more cases of girl gamers got bullied.

Same case with Dragon. The dude literally said that he was looking for a foreign team as soon as he left the team house to go back home and started streaming again, even wrote so on his twitchtv page. He clearly was in the wrong and yet fanboy defended him blindly.

Moreover, people seem to not like Jessica announcing things on twitter, and doing twitter wars. This is just a stupid culture gap. This happens all the time in kpop culture. In fact, there are twitter wars between Korean celebrity every-single-fuking-time whenever there're voting, or some kind of awards. The newest one I remember was SNSD vs SUJU last month. This always happens, SMtown artists vs JYP artist, ELF vs everythingelse, fan wars,.... Hell, even in America, celebrity twitter wars are not that rare.
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
August 07 2012 00:25 GMT
#427
On August 07 2012 08:55 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 06:57 Robbie! wrote:
On August 06 2012 13:15 Waxangel wrote:
Has Jessica ever not made herself look like the bad guy in these situations ?

True that, I feel like a similar thing happened to Dragon when he left the team, she put words in Dragons mouth making him out to be the problem, but this Crank problem kind of reassures the fact that she is just a little protective over her players, or what ever she seems to be pulling. In the mean time I feel bad for crank, can't imagine the stress of these childish "twitter wars" Jessica is provoking, while trying to find a foreign team.

Funny how people conveniently forget how there was no drama when Sleep, Golden, GanZi and TaeJa left.

This pretty much looks like CranK's fault, you don't announce to your fans that you've left your team when you have not even given your team notice.


Jessica is known for a very short temper, and really hates people who she thinks is trying to deceive her. Dragon did that, and apparently Crank is going the same route too.

On the other hand, the ones who kept it honest about wanting to join a foreign team (Ganzi and Teaja) still maintain a very good relationship with Slayers and Jessica.
unbaal
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden44 Posts
August 07 2012 00:36 GMT
#428
@S_SienZ and Jellyjello good point.
www.essv.se
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 07 2012 00:38 GMT
#429
On August 07 2012 09:25 jellyjello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 08:55 S_SienZ wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:57 Robbie! wrote:
On August 06 2012 13:15 Waxangel wrote:
Has Jessica ever not made herself look like the bad guy in these situations ?

True that, I feel like a similar thing happened to Dragon when he left the team, she put words in Dragons mouth making him out to be the problem, but this Crank problem kind of reassures the fact that she is just a little protective over her players, or what ever she seems to be pulling. In the mean time I feel bad for crank, can't imagine the stress of these childish "twitter wars" Jessica is provoking, while trying to find a foreign team.

Funny how people conveniently forget how there was no drama when Sleep, Golden, GanZi and TaeJa left.

This pretty much looks like CranK's fault, you don't announce to your fans that you've left your team when you have not even given your team notice.


Jessica is known for a very short temper, and really hates people who she thinks is trying to deceive her. Dragon did that, and apparently Crank is going the same route too.

On the other hand, the ones who kept it honest about wanting to join a foreign team (Ganzi and Teaja) still maintain a very good relationship with Slayers and Jessica.

Jessica isn't known for a very short temper. The community has painted her as having one, despite essentially no one ever having met her. I seriously can't remember the last time there was a legitimate complaint to be made against Jessica.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 07 2012 00:39 GMT
#430
On August 07 2012 09:38 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 09:25 jellyjello wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:55 S_SienZ wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:57 Robbie! wrote:
On August 06 2012 13:15 Waxangel wrote:
Has Jessica ever not made herself look like the bad guy in these situations ?

True that, I feel like a similar thing happened to Dragon when he left the team, she put words in Dragons mouth making him out to be the problem, but this Crank problem kind of reassures the fact that she is just a little protective over her players, or what ever she seems to be pulling. In the mean time I feel bad for crank, can't imagine the stress of these childish "twitter wars" Jessica is provoking, while trying to find a foreign team.

Funny how people conveniently forget how there was no drama when Sleep, Golden, GanZi and TaeJa left.

This pretty much looks like CranK's fault, you don't announce to your fans that you've left your team when you have not even given your team notice.


Jessica is known for a very short temper, and really hates people who she thinks is trying to deceive her. Dragon did that, and apparently Crank is going the same route too.

On the other hand, the ones who kept it honest about wanting to join a foreign team (Ganzi and Teaja) still maintain a very good relationship with Slayers and Jessica.

Jessica isn't known for a very short temper. The community has painted her as having one, despite essentially no one ever having met her. I seriously can't remember the last time there was a legitimate complaint to be made against Jessica.


She's VERY well known throughout the scene for having a short temper by more or less everyone, Korean or not.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
August 07 2012 00:50 GMT
#431
On August 07 2012 09:39 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 09:38 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:25 jellyjello wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:55 S_SienZ wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:57 Robbie! wrote:
On August 06 2012 13:15 Waxangel wrote:
Has Jessica ever not made herself look like the bad guy in these situations ?

True that, I feel like a similar thing happened to Dragon when he left the team, she put words in Dragons mouth making him out to be the problem, but this Crank problem kind of reassures the fact that she is just a little protective over her players, or what ever she seems to be pulling. In the mean time I feel bad for crank, can't imagine the stress of these childish "twitter wars" Jessica is provoking, while trying to find a foreign team.

Funny how people conveniently forget how there was no drama when Sleep, Golden, GanZi and TaeJa left.

This pretty much looks like CranK's fault, you don't announce to your fans that you've left your team when you have not even given your team notice.


Jessica is known for a very short temper, and really hates people who she thinks is trying to deceive her. Dragon did that, and apparently Crank is going the same route too.

On the other hand, the ones who kept it honest about wanting to join a foreign team (Ganzi and Teaja) still maintain a very good relationship with Slayers and Jessica.

Jessica isn't known for a very short temper. The community has painted her as having one, despite essentially no one ever having met her. I seriously can't remember the last time there was a legitimate complaint to be made against Jessica.


She's VERY well known throughout the scene for having a short temper by more or less everyone, Korean or not.


It's more like she's commonly thought to have a short temper. It's not "known" that she has one. I wouldn't say that everyone thinks that, I have no idea how the players feel about her. I don't think she has a short temper, I've seen nothing to indicate that she does. A short temper would be flying off the handle in a blink of the eye. All she's really done is post on twitter, so she's passionate and vocal, but I don't know about short tempered.

As others have said a fair bit of it may well come down to cultural differences. Arguments over Twitter are pretty common. Still I think she could use a couple PR lessons and I definitely think the drama about her is blown way out of proportion by the western SC2 fanbase.
bumkin: How can you play like 50 games per day... I 4gate 2 times then it's nap time
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 07 2012 00:52 GMT
#432
On August 07 2012 09:50 MVega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 09:39 Diamond wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:38 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:25 jellyjello wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:55 S_SienZ wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:57 Robbie! wrote:
On August 06 2012 13:15 Waxangel wrote:
Has Jessica ever not made herself look like the bad guy in these situations ?

True that, I feel like a similar thing happened to Dragon when he left the team, she put words in Dragons mouth making him out to be the problem, but this Crank problem kind of reassures the fact that she is just a little protective over her players, or what ever she seems to be pulling. In the mean time I feel bad for crank, can't imagine the stress of these childish "twitter wars" Jessica is provoking, while trying to find a foreign team.

Funny how people conveniently forget how there was no drama when Sleep, Golden, GanZi and TaeJa left.

This pretty much looks like CranK's fault, you don't announce to your fans that you've left your team when you have not even given your team notice.


Jessica is known for a very short temper, and really hates people who she thinks is trying to deceive her. Dragon did that, and apparently Crank is going the same route too.

On the other hand, the ones who kept it honest about wanting to join a foreign team (Ganzi and Teaja) still maintain a very good relationship with Slayers and Jessica.

Jessica isn't known for a very short temper. The community has painted her as having one, despite essentially no one ever having met her. I seriously can't remember the last time there was a legitimate complaint to be made against Jessica.


She's VERY well known throughout the scene for having a short temper by more or less everyone, Korean or not.


It's more like she's commonly thought to have a short temper. It's not "known" that she has one. I wouldn't say that everyone thinks that, I have no idea how the players feel about her. I don't think she has a short temper, I've seen nothing to indicate that she does. A short temper would be flying off the handle in a blink of the eye. All she's really done is post on twitter, so she's passionate and vocal, but I don't know about short tempered.

As others have said a fair bit of it may well come down to cultural differences. Arguments over Twitter are pretty common. Still I think she could use a couple PR lessons and I definitely think the drama about her is blown way out of proportion by the western SC2 fanbase.


You do know I not only know Jessica personally, but also I know A LOT of people in this industry that know her and share the same opinion? It's not like I am guessing on this, it's just a known fact Jessica will fly off the handle on you for nothing if you are not careful around her.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 07 2012 00:56 GMT
#433
On August 07 2012 09:38 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 09:25 jellyjello wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:55 S_SienZ wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:57 Robbie! wrote:
On August 06 2012 13:15 Waxangel wrote:
Has Jessica ever not made herself look like the bad guy in these situations ?

True that, I feel like a similar thing happened to Dragon when he left the team, she put words in Dragons mouth making him out to be the problem, but this Crank problem kind of reassures the fact that she is just a little protective over her players, or what ever she seems to be pulling. In the mean time I feel bad for crank, can't imagine the stress of these childish "twitter wars" Jessica is provoking, while trying to find a foreign team.

Funny how people conveniently forget how there was no drama when Sleep, Golden, GanZi and TaeJa left.

This pretty much looks like CranK's fault, you don't announce to your fans that you've left your team when you have not even given your team notice.


Jessica is known for a very short temper, and really hates people who she thinks is trying to deceive her. Dragon did that, and apparently Crank is going the same route too.

On the other hand, the ones who kept it honest about wanting to join a foreign team (Ganzi and Teaja) still maintain a very good relationship with Slayers and Jessica.

Jessica isn't known for a very short temper. The community has painted her as having one, despite essentially no one ever having met her. I seriously can't remember the last time there was a legitimate complaint to be made against Jessica.

I dislike Jessica because she never tweeted me back T_T. biggest complaint i have, that, and she let boxer hurt his himself so now we can't see him play. she needs to be more controlling of that boy.
MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
August 07 2012 01:02 GMT
#434
On August 07 2012 09:52 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 09:50 MVega wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:39 Diamond wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:38 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:25 jellyjello wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:55 S_SienZ wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:57 Robbie! wrote:
On August 06 2012 13:15 Waxangel wrote:
Has Jessica ever not made herself look like the bad guy in these situations ?

True that, I feel like a similar thing happened to Dragon when he left the team, she put words in Dragons mouth making him out to be the problem, but this Crank problem kind of reassures the fact that she is just a little protective over her players, or what ever she seems to be pulling. In the mean time I feel bad for crank, can't imagine the stress of these childish "twitter wars" Jessica is provoking, while trying to find a foreign team.

Funny how people conveniently forget how there was no drama when Sleep, Golden, GanZi and TaeJa left.

This pretty much looks like CranK's fault, you don't announce to your fans that you've left your team when you have not even given your team notice.


Jessica is known for a very short temper, and really hates people who she thinks is trying to deceive her. Dragon did that, and apparently Crank is going the same route too.

On the other hand, the ones who kept it honest about wanting to join a foreign team (Ganzi and Teaja) still maintain a very good relationship with Slayers and Jessica.

Jessica isn't known for a very short temper. The community has painted her as having one, despite essentially no one ever having met her. I seriously can't remember the last time there was a legitimate complaint to be made against Jessica.


She's VERY well known throughout the scene for having a short temper by more or less everyone, Korean or not.


It's more like she's commonly thought to have a short temper. It's not "known" that she has one. I wouldn't say that everyone thinks that, I have no idea how the players feel about her. I don't think she has a short temper, I've seen nothing to indicate that she does. A short temper would be flying off the handle in a blink of the eye. All she's really done is post on twitter, so she's passionate and vocal, but I don't know about short tempered.

As others have said a fair bit of it may well come down to cultural differences. Arguments over Twitter are pretty common. Still I think she could use a couple PR lessons and I definitely think the drama about her is blown way out of proportion by the western SC2 fanbase.


You do know I not only know Jessica personally, but also I know A LOT of people in this industry that know her and share the same opinion? It's not like I am guessing on this, it's just a known fact Jessica will fly off the handle on you for nothing if you are not careful around her.


No, how would I possibly know that? But I am a little confused that you said they share the same opinion and then later say it's a known fact.
bumkin: How can you play like 50 games per day... I 4gate 2 times then it's nap time
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 07 2012 01:05 GMT
#435
On August 07 2012 10:02 MVega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 09:52 Diamond wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:50 MVega wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:39 Diamond wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:38 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:25 jellyjello wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:55 S_SienZ wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:57 Robbie! wrote:
On August 06 2012 13:15 Waxangel wrote:
Has Jessica ever not made herself look like the bad guy in these situations ?

True that, I feel like a similar thing happened to Dragon when he left the team, she put words in Dragons mouth making him out to be the problem, but this Crank problem kind of reassures the fact that she is just a little protective over her players, or what ever she seems to be pulling. In the mean time I feel bad for crank, can't imagine the stress of these childish "twitter wars" Jessica is provoking, while trying to find a foreign team.

Funny how people conveniently forget how there was no drama when Sleep, Golden, GanZi and TaeJa left.

This pretty much looks like CranK's fault, you don't announce to your fans that you've left your team when you have not even given your team notice.


Jessica is known for a very short temper, and really hates people who she thinks is trying to deceive her. Dragon did that, and apparently Crank is going the same route too.

On the other hand, the ones who kept it honest about wanting to join a foreign team (Ganzi and Teaja) still maintain a very good relationship with Slayers and Jessica.

Jessica isn't known for a very short temper. The community has painted her as having one, despite essentially no one ever having met her. I seriously can't remember the last time there was a legitimate complaint to be made against Jessica.


She's VERY well known throughout the scene for having a short temper by more or less everyone, Korean or not.


It's more like she's commonly thought to have a short temper. It's not "known" that she has one. I wouldn't say that everyone thinks that, I have no idea how the players feel about her. I don't think she has a short temper, I've seen nothing to indicate that she does. A short temper would be flying off the handle in a blink of the eye. All she's really done is post on twitter, so she's passionate and vocal, but I don't know about short tempered.

As others have said a fair bit of it may well come down to cultural differences. Arguments over Twitter are pretty common. Still I think she could use a couple PR lessons and I definitely think the drama about her is blown way out of proportion by the western SC2 fanbase.


You do know I not only know Jessica personally, but also I know A LOT of people in this industry that know her and share the same opinion? It's not like I am guessing on this, it's just a known fact Jessica will fly off the handle on you for nothing if you are not careful around her.


No, how would I possibly know that? But I am a little confused that you said they share the same opinion and then later say it's a known fact.


Ok since you don't know I run the ESV TV Korean Weekly, do stage admin'ing for major tournaments like IPL 4, and work day to day with pros from all around the world including Korea. I have first hand experience with every Korean pro that is known aside for MvP. I have dealt with her personally on many occasions and even in person.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
August 07 2012 01:15 GMT
#436
On August 07 2012 10:05 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 10:02 MVega wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:52 Diamond wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:50 MVega wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:39 Diamond wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:38 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:25 jellyjello wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:55 S_SienZ wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:57 Robbie! wrote:
On August 06 2012 13:15 Waxangel wrote:
Has Jessica ever not made herself look like the bad guy in these situations ?

True that, I feel like a similar thing happened to Dragon when he left the team, she put words in Dragons mouth making him out to be the problem, but this Crank problem kind of reassures the fact that she is just a little protective over her players, or what ever she seems to be pulling. In the mean time I feel bad for crank, can't imagine the stress of these childish "twitter wars" Jessica is provoking, while trying to find a foreign team.

Funny how people conveniently forget how there was no drama when Sleep, Golden, GanZi and TaeJa left.

This pretty much looks like CranK's fault, you don't announce to your fans that you've left your team when you have not even given your team notice.


Jessica is known for a very short temper, and really hates people who she thinks is trying to deceive her. Dragon did that, and apparently Crank is going the same route too.

On the other hand, the ones who kept it honest about wanting to join a foreign team (Ganzi and Teaja) still maintain a very good relationship with Slayers and Jessica.

Jessica isn't known for a very short temper. The community has painted her as having one, despite essentially no one ever having met her. I seriously can't remember the last time there was a legitimate complaint to be made against Jessica.


She's VERY well known throughout the scene for having a short temper by more or less everyone, Korean or not.


It's more like she's commonly thought to have a short temper. It's not "known" that she has one. I wouldn't say that everyone thinks that, I have no idea how the players feel about her. I don't think she has a short temper, I've seen nothing to indicate that she does. A short temper would be flying off the handle in a blink of the eye. All she's really done is post on twitter, so she's passionate and vocal, but I don't know about short tempered.

As others have said a fair bit of it may well come down to cultural differences. Arguments over Twitter are pretty common. Still I think she could use a couple PR lessons and I definitely think the drama about her is blown way out of proportion by the western SC2 fanbase.


You do know I not only know Jessica personally, but also I know A LOT of people in this industry that know her and share the same opinion? It's not like I am guessing on this, it's just a known fact Jessica will fly off the handle on you for nothing if you are not careful around her.


No, how would I possibly know that? But I am a little confused that you said they share the same opinion and then later say it's a known fact.


Ok since you don't know I run the ESV TV Korean Weekly, do stage admin'ing for major tournaments like IPL 4, and work day to day with pros from all around the world including Korea. I have first hand experience with every Korean pro that is known aside for MvP. I have dealt with her personally on many occasions and even in person.



"I'm Diamond, you've probably heard of me."
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 01:30:09
August 07 2012 01:20 GMT
#437
On August 07 2012 09:39 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 09:38 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:25 jellyjello wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:55 S_SienZ wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:57 Robbie! wrote:
On August 06 2012 13:15 Waxangel wrote:
Has Jessica ever not made herself look like the bad guy in these situations ?

True that, I feel like a similar thing happened to Dragon when he left the team, she put words in Dragons mouth making him out to be the problem, but this Crank problem kind of reassures the fact that she is just a little protective over her players, or what ever she seems to be pulling. In the mean time I feel bad for crank, can't imagine the stress of these childish "twitter wars" Jessica is provoking, while trying to find a foreign team.

Funny how people conveniently forget how there was no drama when Sleep, Golden, GanZi and TaeJa left.

This pretty much looks like CranK's fault, you don't announce to your fans that you've left your team when you have not even given your team notice.


Jessica is known for a very short temper, and really hates people who she thinks is trying to deceive her. Dragon did that, and apparently Crank is going the same route too.

On the other hand, the ones who kept it honest about wanting to join a foreign team (Ganzi and Teaja) still maintain a very good relationship with Slayers and Jessica.

Jessica isn't known for a very short temper. The community has painted her as having one, despite essentially no one ever having met her. I seriously can't remember the last time there was a legitimate complaint to be made against Jessica.


She's VERY well known throughout the scene for having a short temper by more or less everyone, Korean or not.



EDIT: misread
MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
August 07 2012 01:22 GMT
#438
On August 07 2012 10:05 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 10:02 MVega wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:52 Diamond wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:50 MVega wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:39 Diamond wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:38 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:25 jellyjello wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:55 S_SienZ wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:57 Robbie! wrote:
On August 06 2012 13:15 Waxangel wrote:
Has Jessica ever not made herself look like the bad guy in these situations ?

True that, I feel like a similar thing happened to Dragon when he left the team, she put words in Dragons mouth making him out to be the problem, but this Crank problem kind of reassures the fact that she is just a little protective over her players, or what ever she seems to be pulling. In the mean time I feel bad for crank, can't imagine the stress of these childish "twitter wars" Jessica is provoking, while trying to find a foreign team.

Funny how people conveniently forget how there was no drama when Sleep, Golden, GanZi and TaeJa left.

This pretty much looks like CranK's fault, you don't announce to your fans that you've left your team when you have not even given your team notice.


Jessica is known for a very short temper, and really hates people who she thinks is trying to deceive her. Dragon did that, and apparently Crank is going the same route too.

On the other hand, the ones who kept it honest about wanting to join a foreign team (Ganzi and Teaja) still maintain a very good relationship with Slayers and Jessica.

Jessica isn't known for a very short temper. The community has painted her as having one, despite essentially no one ever having met her. I seriously can't remember the last time there was a legitimate complaint to be made against Jessica.


She's VERY well known throughout the scene for having a short temper by more or less everyone, Korean or not.


It's more like she's commonly thought to have a short temper. It's not "known" that she has one. I wouldn't say that everyone thinks that, I have no idea how the players feel about her. I don't think she has a short temper, I've seen nothing to indicate that she does. A short temper would be flying off the handle in a blink of the eye. All she's really done is post on twitter, so she's passionate and vocal, but I don't know about short tempered.

As others have said a fair bit of it may well come down to cultural differences. Arguments over Twitter are pretty common. Still I think she could use a couple PR lessons and I definitely think the drama about her is blown way out of proportion by the western SC2 fanbase.


You do know I not only know Jessica personally, but also I know A LOT of people in this industry that know her and share the same opinion? It's not like I am guessing on this, it's just a known fact Jessica will fly off the handle on you for nothing if you are not careful around her.


No, how would I possibly know that? But I am a little confused that you said they share the same opinion and then later say it's a known fact.


Ok since you don't know I run the ESV TV Korean Weekly, do stage admin'ing for major tournaments like IPL 4, and work day to day with pros from all around the world including Korea. I have first hand experience with every Korean pro that is known aside for MvP. I have dealt with her personally on many occasions and even in person.


Impressive. Congratulations. (Not sarcasm) Just hadn't heard of you before.
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 07 2012 01:28 GMT
#439
On August 07 2012 10:22 MVega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 10:05 Diamond wrote:
On August 07 2012 10:02 MVega wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:52 Diamond wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:50 MVega wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:39 Diamond wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:38 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:25 jellyjello wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:55 S_SienZ wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:57 Robbie! wrote:
[quote]
True that, I feel like a similar thing happened to Dragon when he left the team, she put words in Dragons mouth making him out to be the problem, but this Crank problem kind of reassures the fact that she is just a little protective over her players, or what ever she seems to be pulling. In the mean time I feel bad for crank, can't imagine the stress of these childish "twitter wars" Jessica is provoking, while trying to find a foreign team.

Funny how people conveniently forget how there was no drama when Sleep, Golden, GanZi and TaeJa left.

This pretty much looks like CranK's fault, you don't announce to your fans that you've left your team when you have not even given your team notice.


Jessica is known for a very short temper, and really hates people who she thinks is trying to deceive her. Dragon did that, and apparently Crank is going the same route too.

On the other hand, the ones who kept it honest about wanting to join a foreign team (Ganzi and Teaja) still maintain a very good relationship with Slayers and Jessica.

Jessica isn't known for a very short temper. The community has painted her as having one, despite essentially no one ever having met her. I seriously can't remember the last time there was a legitimate complaint to be made against Jessica.


She's VERY well known throughout the scene for having a short temper by more or less everyone, Korean or not.


It's more like she's commonly thought to have a short temper. It's not "known" that she has one. I wouldn't say that everyone thinks that, I have no idea how the players feel about her. I don't think she has a short temper, I've seen nothing to indicate that she does. A short temper would be flying off the handle in a blink of the eye. All she's really done is post on twitter, so she's passionate and vocal, but I don't know about short tempered.

As others have said a fair bit of it may well come down to cultural differences. Arguments over Twitter are pretty common. Still I think she could use a couple PR lessons and I definitely think the drama about her is blown way out of proportion by the western SC2 fanbase.


You do know I not only know Jessica personally, but also I know A LOT of people in this industry that know her and share the same opinion? It's not like I am guessing on this, it's just a known fact Jessica will fly off the handle on you for nothing if you are not careful around her.


No, how would I possibly know that? But I am a little confused that you said they share the same opinion and then later say it's a known fact.


Ok since you don't know I run the ESV TV Korean Weekly, do stage admin'ing for major tournaments like IPL 4, and work day to day with pros from all around the world including Korea. I have first hand experience with every Korean pro that is known aside for MvP. I have dealt with her personally on many occasions and even in person.


Impressive. Congratulations. (Not sarcasm) Just hadn't heard of you before.


Thank you, much <3. Never feel bad for asking for some kind of verification .
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Kich
Profile Joined April 2011
United States339 Posts
August 07 2012 01:52 GMT
#440
On August 07 2012 10:05 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 10:02 MVega wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:52 Diamond wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:50 MVega wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:39 Diamond wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:38 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:25 jellyjello wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:55 S_SienZ wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:57 Robbie! wrote:
On August 06 2012 13:15 Waxangel wrote:
Has Jessica ever not made herself look like the bad guy in these situations ?

True that, I feel like a similar thing happened to Dragon when he left the team, she put words in Dragons mouth making him out to be the problem, but this Crank problem kind of reassures the fact that she is just a little protective over her players, or what ever she seems to be pulling. In the mean time I feel bad for crank, can't imagine the stress of these childish "twitter wars" Jessica is provoking, while trying to find a foreign team.

Funny how people conveniently forget how there was no drama when Sleep, Golden, GanZi and TaeJa left.

This pretty much looks like CranK's fault, you don't announce to your fans that you've left your team when you have not even given your team notice.


Jessica is known for a very short temper, and really hates people who she thinks is trying to deceive her. Dragon did that, and apparently Crank is going the same route too.

On the other hand, the ones who kept it honest about wanting to join a foreign team (Ganzi and Teaja) still maintain a very good relationship with Slayers and Jessica.

Jessica isn't known for a very short temper. The community has painted her as having one, despite essentially no one ever having met her. I seriously can't remember the last time there was a legitimate complaint to be made against Jessica.


She's VERY well known throughout the scene for having a short temper by more or less everyone, Korean or not.


It's more like she's commonly thought to have a short temper. It's not "known" that she has one. I wouldn't say that everyone thinks that, I have no idea how the players feel about her. I don't think she has a short temper, I've seen nothing to indicate that she does. A short temper would be flying off the handle in a blink of the eye. All she's really done is post on twitter, so she's passionate and vocal, but I don't know about short tempered.

As others have said a fair bit of it may well come down to cultural differences. Arguments over Twitter are pretty common. Still I think she could use a couple PR lessons and I definitely think the drama about her is blown way out of proportion by the western SC2 fanbase.


You do know I not only know Jessica personally, but also I know A LOT of people in this industry that know her and share the same opinion? It's not like I am guessing on this, it's just a known fact Jessica will fly off the handle on you for nothing if you are not careful around her.


No, how would I possibly know that? But I am a little confused that you said they share the same opinion and then later say it's a known fact.


I have dealt with her personally on many occasions and even in person.


And sometimes in person. Personally. Just a funny wording.
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