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mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
August 07 2012 02:22 GMT
#441
On August 07 2012 08:55 S_SienZ wrote:
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On August 07 2012 06:57 Robbie! wrote:
On August 06 2012 13:15 Waxangel wrote:
Has Jessica ever not made herself look like the bad guy in these situations ?

True that, I feel like a similar thing happened to Dragon when he left the team, she put words in Dragons mouth making him out to be the problem, but this Crank problem kind of reassures the fact that she is just a little protective over her players, or what ever she seems to be pulling. In the mean time I feel bad for crank, can't imagine the stress of these childish "twitter wars" Jessica is provoking, while trying to find a foreign team.

Funny how people conveniently forget how there was no drama when Sleep, Golden, GanZi and TaeJa left.

This pretty much looks like CranK's fault, you don't announce to your fans that you've left your team when you have not even given your team notice.


Exactly my thoughts.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
August 07 2012 02:32 GMT
#442
On August 07 2012 10:02 MVega wrote:
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On August 07 2012 09:52 Diamond wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:50 MVega wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:39 Diamond wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:38 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:25 jellyjello wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:55 S_SienZ wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:57 Robbie! wrote:
On August 06 2012 13:15 Waxangel wrote:
Has Jessica ever not made herself look like the bad guy in these situations ?

True that, I feel like a similar thing happened to Dragon when he left the team, she put words in Dragons mouth making him out to be the problem, but this Crank problem kind of reassures the fact that she is just a little protective over her players, or what ever she seems to be pulling. In the mean time I feel bad for crank, can't imagine the stress of these childish "twitter wars" Jessica is provoking, while trying to find a foreign team.

Funny how people conveniently forget how there was no drama when Sleep, Golden, GanZi and TaeJa left.

This pretty much looks like CranK's fault, you don't announce to your fans that you've left your team when you have not even given your team notice.


Jessica is known for a very short temper, and really hates people who she thinks is trying to deceive her. Dragon did that, and apparently Crank is going the same route too.

On the other hand, the ones who kept it honest about wanting to join a foreign team (Ganzi and Teaja) still maintain a very good relationship with Slayers and Jessica.

Jessica isn't known for a very short temper. The community has painted her as having one, despite essentially no one ever having met her. I seriously can't remember the last time there was a legitimate complaint to be made against Jessica.


She's VERY well known throughout the scene for having a short temper by more or less everyone, Korean or not.


It's more like she's commonly thought to have a short temper. It's not "known" that she has one. I wouldn't say that everyone thinks that, I have no idea how the players feel about her. I don't think she has a short temper, I've seen nothing to indicate that she does. A short temper would be flying off the handle in a blink of the eye. All she's really done is post on twitter, so she's passionate and vocal, but I don't know about short tempered.

As others have said a fair bit of it may well come down to cultural differences. Arguments over Twitter are pretty common. Still I think she could use a couple PR lessons and I definitely think the drama about her is blown way out of proportion by the western SC2 fanbase.


You do know I not only know Jessica personally, but also I know A LOT of people in this industry that know her and share the same opinion? It's not like I am guessing on this, it's just a known fact Jessica will fly off the handle on you for nothing if you are not careful around her.


No, how would I possibly know that? But I am a little confused that you said they share the same opinion and then later say it's a known fact.


There's a nifty little button next to every posters name that says "Profile"

It might be wise to click that, especially with members that have 5k+ posts so you know who you are arguing with when you argue with them
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
August 07 2012 02:46 GMT
#443
So, is there a reason Slayers players keep making excuses to be able to go home and then start looking for a new team? Like Dragon saying retiring then started searching for a foreign team, similar with Crank's neck problem. There must be a reason. Could it be that some players are not allowed to leave. If they're allowed to leave by talking face to face with Jessica first, then they wouldn't need to create these uncomfortable excuses.

If certain player's heart is not there with the team anymore and wanted to search for a new team, then there's no need for Jessica to go on twitter. They're going to leave either way. I think Jessica is just sending message to the next players that want to leave. She just wants to make sure they know that it's going to be an uncomforable situation if they choose to leaves. probably a message to MMA.
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mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
August 07 2012 02:51 GMT
#444
On August 07 2012 11:46 NoGasfOu wrote:
So, is there a reason Slayers players keep making excuses to be able to go home and then start looking for a new team? Like Dragon saying retiring then started searching for a foreign team, similar with Crank's neck problem. There must be a reason. Could it be that some players are not allowed to leave. If they're allowed to leave by talking face to face with Jessica first, then they wouldn't need to create these uncomfortable excuses.

If certain player's heart is not there with the team anymore and wanted to search for a new team, then there's no need for Jessica to go on twitter. They're going to leave either way. I think Jessica is just sending message to the next players that want to leave. She just wants to make sure they know that it's going to be an uncomforable situation if they choose to leaves. probably a message to MMA.


OR just 2 players being a dick on the same team. Golden,Sleep, Ganzi and Teaja had no problems.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
August 07 2012 02:58 GMT
#445
On August 07 2012 11:46 NoGasfOu wrote:
So, is there a reason Slayers players keep making excuses to be able to go home and then start looking for a new team? Like Dragon saying retiring then started searching for a foreign team, similar with Crank's neck problem. There must be a reason. Could it be that some players are not allowed to leave. If they're allowed to leave by talking face to face with Jessica first, then they wouldn't need to create these uncomfortable excuses.

If certain player's heart is not there with the team anymore and wanted to search for a new team, then there's no need for Jessica to go on twitter. They're going to leave either way. I think Jessica is just sending message to the next players that want to leave. She just wants to make sure they know that it's going to be an uncomforable situation if they choose to leaves. probably a message to MMA.


It's not like Dragon was a real player anyways, he was just Boxer's practice partner and he shouldn't have expected more considering his background and the fact that he promised not to play in tournaments
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OpTicalRH
Profile Joined June 2011
147 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 03:26:18
August 07 2012 03:08 GMT
#446
On August 07 2012 07:27 disinfect wrote:
Don't they have kitchens in Korea?

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tbh, i was wondering when would this kitchen joke come up
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
August 07 2012 03:13 GMT
#447
On August 07 2012 11:51 mtn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 11:46 NoGasfOu wrote:
So, is there a reason Slayers players keep making excuses to be able to go home and then start looking for a new team? Like Dragon saying retiring then started searching for a foreign team, similar with Crank's neck problem. There must be a reason. Could it be that some players are not allowed to leave. If they're allowed to leave by talking face to face with Jessica first, then they wouldn't need to create these uncomfortable excuses.

If certain player's heart is not there with the team anymore and wanted to search for a new team, then there's no need for Jessica to go on twitter. They're going to leave either way. I think Jessica is just sending message to the next players that want to leave. She just wants to make sure they know that it's going to be an uncomforable situation if they choose to leaves. probably a message to MMA.


OR just 2 players being a dick on the same team. Golden,Sleep, Ganzi and Teaja had no problems.

If they're being a dick, then Jessica should be happy and let them go. But, she clearly is not happy about them leaving at all.
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Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 07 2012 03:14 GMT
#448
On August 07 2012 12:13 NoGasfOu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 11:51 mtn wrote:
On August 07 2012 11:46 NoGasfOu wrote:
So, is there a reason Slayers players keep making excuses to be able to go home and then start looking for a new team? Like Dragon saying retiring then started searching for a foreign team, similar with Crank's neck problem. There must be a reason. Could it be that some players are not allowed to leave. If they're allowed to leave by talking face to face with Jessica first, then they wouldn't need to create these uncomfortable excuses.

If certain player's heart is not there with the team anymore and wanted to search for a new team, then there's no need for Jessica to go on twitter. They're going to leave either way. I think Jessica is just sending message to the next players that want to leave. She just wants to make sure they know that it's going to be an uncomforable situation if they choose to leaves. probably a message to MMA.


OR just 2 players being a dick on the same team. Golden,Sleep, Ganzi and Teaja had no problems.

If they're being a dick, then Jessica should be happy and let them go. But, she clearly is not happy about them leaving at all.

Are you kidding me? See, this is what's stupid. It's like you've decided to put a negative spin on no matter what Jessica says.
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
August 07 2012 03:16 GMT
#449
On August 07 2012 12:14 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 12:13 NoGasfOu wrote:
On August 07 2012 11:51 mtn wrote:
On August 07 2012 11:46 NoGasfOu wrote:
So, is there a reason Slayers players keep making excuses to be able to go home and then start looking for a new team? Like Dragon saying retiring then started searching for a foreign team, similar with Crank's neck problem. There must be a reason. Could it be that some players are not allowed to leave. If they're allowed to leave by talking face to face with Jessica first, then they wouldn't need to create these uncomfortable excuses.

If certain player's heart is not there with the team anymore and wanted to search for a new team, then there's no need for Jessica to go on twitter. They're going to leave either way. I think Jessica is just sending message to the next players that want to leave. She just wants to make sure they know that it's going to be an uncomforable situation if they choose to leaves. probably a message to MMA.


OR just 2 players being a dick on the same team. Golden,Sleep, Ganzi and Teaja had no problems.

If they're being a dick, then Jessica should be happy and let them go. But, she clearly is not happy about them leaving at all.

Are you kidding me? See, this is what's stupid. It's like you've decided to put a negative spin on no matter what Jessica says.

No, I'm trying to figure out why the players had to make bad excuses to be able to leave the team.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 07 2012 03:20 GMT
#450
On August 07 2012 12:16 NoGasfOu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 12:14 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:13 NoGasfOu wrote:
On August 07 2012 11:51 mtn wrote:
On August 07 2012 11:46 NoGasfOu wrote:
So, is there a reason Slayers players keep making excuses to be able to go home and then start looking for a new team? Like Dragon saying retiring then started searching for a foreign team, similar with Crank's neck problem. There must be a reason. Could it be that some players are not allowed to leave. If they're allowed to leave by talking face to face with Jessica first, then they wouldn't need to create these uncomfortable excuses.

If certain player's heart is not there with the team anymore and wanted to search for a new team, then there's no need for Jessica to go on twitter. They're going to leave either way. I think Jessica is just sending message to the next players that want to leave. She just wants to make sure they know that it's going to be an uncomforable situation if they choose to leaves. probably a message to MMA.


OR just 2 players being a dick on the same team. Golden,Sleep, Ganzi and Teaja had no problems.

If they're being a dick, then Jessica should be happy and let them go. But, she clearly is not happy about them leaving at all.

Are you kidding me? See, this is what's stupid. It's like you've decided to put a negative spin on no matter what Jessica says.

No, I'm trying to figure out why the players had to make bad excuses to be able to leave the team.

Because they know their reason is going to be basically a spit in the faces of the management. It's also not a legitimate reason to be released from their contract. So they ask to be released on the basis of another reason, banking on their management's trust, only to turn around and join someone else.

That's extremely rude and disloyal.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 07 2012 03:27 GMT
#451
On August 07 2012 12:20 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 12:16 NoGasfOu wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:14 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:13 NoGasfOu wrote:
On August 07 2012 11:51 mtn wrote:
On August 07 2012 11:46 NoGasfOu wrote:
So, is there a reason Slayers players keep making excuses to be able to go home and then start looking for a new team? Like Dragon saying retiring then started searching for a foreign team, similar with Crank's neck problem. There must be a reason. Could it be that some players are not allowed to leave. If they're allowed to leave by talking face to face with Jessica first, then they wouldn't need to create these uncomfortable excuses.

If certain player's heart is not there with the team anymore and wanted to search for a new team, then there's no need for Jessica to go on twitter. They're going to leave either way. I think Jessica is just sending message to the next players that want to leave. She just wants to make sure they know that it's going to be an uncomforable situation if they choose to leaves. probably a message to MMA.


OR just 2 players being a dick on the same team. Golden,Sleep, Ganzi and Teaja had no problems.

If they're being a dick, then Jessica should be happy and let them go. But, she clearly is not happy about them leaving at all.

Are you kidding me? See, this is what's stupid. It's like you've decided to put a negative spin on no matter what Jessica says.

No, I'm trying to figure out why the players had to make bad excuses to be able to leave the team.

Because they know their reason is going to be basically a spit in the faces of the management. It's also not a legitimate reason to be released from their contract. So they ask to be released on the basis of another reason, banking on their management's trust, only to turn around and join someone else.

That's extremely rude and disloyal.


You act like Crank was under contract.....
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NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
August 07 2012 03:35 GMT
#452
On August 07 2012 12:20 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 12:16 NoGasfOu wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:14 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:13 NoGasfOu wrote:
On August 07 2012 11:51 mtn wrote:
On August 07 2012 11:46 NoGasfOu wrote:
So, is there a reason Slayers players keep making excuses to be able to go home and then start looking for a new team? Like Dragon saying retiring then started searching for a foreign team, similar with Crank's neck problem. There must be a reason. Could it be that some players are not allowed to leave. If they're allowed to leave by talking face to face with Jessica first, then they wouldn't need to create these uncomfortable excuses.

If certain player's heart is not there with the team anymore and wanted to search for a new team, then there's no need for Jessica to go on twitter. They're going to leave either way. I think Jessica is just sending message to the next players that want to leave. She just wants to make sure they know that it's going to be an uncomforable situation if they choose to leaves. probably a message to MMA.


OR just 2 players being a dick on the same team. Golden,Sleep, Ganzi and Teaja had no problems.

If they're being a dick, then Jessica should be happy and let them go. But, she clearly is not happy about them leaving at all.

Are you kidding me? See, this is what's stupid. It's like you've decided to put a negative spin on no matter what Jessica says.

No, I'm trying to figure out why the players had to make bad excuses to be able to leave the team.

Because they know their reason is going to be basically a spit in the faces of the management. It's also not a legitimate reason to be released from their contract. So they ask to be released on the basis of another reason, banking on their management's trust, only to turn around and join someone else.

That's extremely rude and disloyal.

If Golden,Sleep, Ganzi and Teaja can be released from the contract by talking face to face with Jessica first, then Dragon and Crank could as well. All of them basically had the exact reason for leaving the team. Those four were able to leave peacefully without spit in the face, but the other two had to make excuses.
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Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 03:49:45
August 07 2012 03:46 GMT
#453
On August 07 2012 12:35 NoGasfOu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 12:20 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:16 NoGasfOu wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:14 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:13 NoGasfOu wrote:
On August 07 2012 11:51 mtn wrote:
On August 07 2012 11:46 NoGasfOu wrote:
So, is there a reason Slayers players keep making excuses to be able to go home and then start looking for a new team? Like Dragon saying retiring then started searching for a foreign team, similar with Crank's neck problem. There must be a reason. Could it be that some players are not allowed to leave. If they're allowed to leave by talking face to face with Jessica first, then they wouldn't need to create these uncomfortable excuses.

If certain player's heart is not there with the team anymore and wanted to search for a new team, then there's no need for Jessica to go on twitter. They're going to leave either way. I think Jessica is just sending message to the next players that want to leave. She just wants to make sure they know that it's going to be an uncomforable situation if they choose to leaves. probably a message to MMA.


OR just 2 players being a dick on the same team. Golden,Sleep, Ganzi and Teaja had no problems.

If they're being a dick, then Jessica should be happy and let them go. But, she clearly is not happy about them leaving at all.

Are you kidding me? See, this is what's stupid. It's like you've decided to put a negative spin on no matter what Jessica says.

No, I'm trying to figure out why the players had to make bad excuses to be able to leave the team.

Because they know their reason is going to be basically a spit in the faces of the management. It's also not a legitimate reason to be released from their contract. So they ask to be released on the basis of another reason, banking on their management's trust, only to turn around and join someone else.

That's extremely rude and disloyal.

If Golden,Sleep, Ganzi and Teaja can be released from the contract by talking face to face with Jessica first, then Dragon and Crank could as well. All of them basically had the exact reason for leaving the team. Those four were able to leave peacefully without spit in the face, but the other two had to make excuses.

Have you factored out possible immaturity of the two you speak about? Maybe they simply did not have the balls to talk to management? Do you seriously believe that, after Crank's reaction to twits, Jessica is solely to blame? He dropped out of the conversation/spat pretty quickly.
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
August 07 2012 03:57 GMT
#454
On August 07 2012 12:46 Roman666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 12:35 NoGasfOu wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:20 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:16 NoGasfOu wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:14 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:13 NoGasfOu wrote:
On August 07 2012 11:51 mtn wrote:
On August 07 2012 11:46 NoGasfOu wrote:
So, is there a reason Slayers players keep making excuses to be able to go home and then start looking for a new team? Like Dragon saying retiring then started searching for a foreign team, similar with Crank's neck problem. There must be a reason. Could it be that some players are not allowed to leave. If they're allowed to leave by talking face to face with Jessica first, then they wouldn't need to create these uncomfortable excuses.

If certain player's heart is not there with the team anymore and wanted to search for a new team, then there's no need for Jessica to go on twitter. They're going to leave either way. I think Jessica is just sending message to the next players that want to leave. She just wants to make sure they know that it's going to be an uncomforable situation if they choose to leaves. probably a message to MMA.


OR just 2 players being a dick on the same team. Golden,Sleep, Ganzi and Teaja had no problems.

If they're being a dick, then Jessica should be happy and let them go. But, she clearly is not happy about them leaving at all.

Are you kidding me? See, this is what's stupid. It's like you've decided to put a negative spin on no matter what Jessica says.

No, I'm trying to figure out why the players had to make bad excuses to be able to leave the team.

Because they know their reason is going to be basically a spit in the faces of the management. It's also not a legitimate reason to be released from their contract. So they ask to be released on the basis of another reason, banking on their management's trust, only to turn around and join someone else.

That's extremely rude and disloyal.

If Golden,Sleep, Ganzi and Teaja can be released from the contract by talking face to face with Jessica first, then Dragon and Crank could as well. All of them basically had the exact reason for leaving the team. Those four were able to leave peacefully without spit in the face, but the other two had to make excuses.

Have you factored out possible immaturity of the two you speak about? Maybe they simply did not have the balls to talk to management? Do you seriously believe that, after Crank's reaction to twits, Jessica is solely to blame? He dropped out of the conversation/spat pretty quickly.

Lets say those two were immature and didn't have the ball to talk to her about leaving and had to come up with fake reasons. Is that a good reason for Jessica to twit all over the place. Crank basically said that he can't handle all the talks behind his back anymore and also dropped out of the twitter fight. I don't think it's that easy to drop out of a word fight. The person that drops out of a fight usually has to be a mature one. Dragon didn't even bother to fight. He just let Jessica twit whatever she wanted.
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jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
August 07 2012 03:59 GMT
#455
On August 07 2012 09:38 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 09:25 jellyjello wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:55 S_SienZ wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:57 Robbie! wrote:
On August 06 2012 13:15 Waxangel wrote:
Has Jessica ever not made herself look like the bad guy in these situations ?

True that, I feel like a similar thing happened to Dragon when he left the team, she put words in Dragons mouth making him out to be the problem, but this Crank problem kind of reassures the fact that she is just a little protective over her players, or what ever she seems to be pulling. In the mean time I feel bad for crank, can't imagine the stress of these childish "twitter wars" Jessica is provoking, while trying to find a foreign team.

Funny how people conveniently forget how there was no drama when Sleep, Golden, GanZi and TaeJa left.

This pretty much looks like CranK's fault, you don't announce to your fans that you've left your team when you have not even given your team notice.


Jessica is known for a very short temper, and really hates people who she thinks is trying to deceive her. Dragon did that, and apparently Crank is going the same route too.

On the other hand, the ones who kept it honest about wanting to join a foreign team (Ganzi and Teaja) still maintain a very good relationship with Slayers and Jessica.

Jessica isn't known for a very short temper. The community has painted her as having one, despite essentially no one ever having met her. I seriously can't remember the last time there was a legitimate complaint to be made against Jessica.


Even Jessica herself admitted to having a short temper back when she was just an actress.

But then again, a lot of Korean females have short and hot tempers. I know because I'm married to one.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 07 2012 04:00 GMT
#456
On August 07 2012 12:35 NoGasfOu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 12:20 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:16 NoGasfOu wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:14 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:13 NoGasfOu wrote:
On August 07 2012 11:51 mtn wrote:
On August 07 2012 11:46 NoGasfOu wrote:
So, is there a reason Slayers players keep making excuses to be able to go home and then start looking for a new team? Like Dragon saying retiring then started searching for a foreign team, similar with Crank's neck problem. There must be a reason. Could it be that some players are not allowed to leave. If they're allowed to leave by talking face to face with Jessica first, then they wouldn't need to create these uncomfortable excuses.

If certain player's heart is not there with the team anymore and wanted to search for a new team, then there's no need for Jessica to go on twitter. They're going to leave either way. I think Jessica is just sending message to the next players that want to leave. She just wants to make sure they know that it's going to be an uncomforable situation if they choose to leaves. probably a message to MMA.


OR just 2 players being a dick on the same team. Golden,Sleep, Ganzi and Teaja had no problems.

If they're being a dick, then Jessica should be happy and let them go. But, she clearly is not happy about them leaving at all.

Are you kidding me? See, this is what's stupid. It's like you've decided to put a negative spin on no matter what Jessica says.

No, I'm trying to figure out why the players had to make bad excuses to be able to leave the team.

Because they know their reason is going to be basically a spit in the faces of the management. It's also not a legitimate reason to be released from their contract. So they ask to be released on the basis of another reason, banking on their management's trust, only to turn around and join someone else.

That's extremely rude and disloyal.

If Golden,Sleep, Ganzi and Teaja can be released from the contract by talking face to face with Jessica first, then Dragon and Crank could as well. All of them basically had the exact reason for leaving the team. Those four were able to leave peacefully without spit in the face, but the other two had to make excuses.

That says a lot about the players in question, Perhaps they didn't have he gumption to say what they meant.
leperphilliac
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States399 Posts
August 07 2012 04:07 GMT
#457
You'd imagine being an actress in Korea of all places would know the basics of PR...
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
August 07 2012 04:10 GMT
#458
On August 07 2012 12:59 jellyjello wrote:
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On August 07 2012 09:38 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:25 jellyjello wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:55 S_SienZ wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:57 Robbie! wrote:
On August 06 2012 13:15 Waxangel wrote:
Has Jessica ever not made herself look like the bad guy in these situations ?

True that, I feel like a similar thing happened to Dragon when he left the team, she put words in Dragons mouth making him out to be the problem, but this Crank problem kind of reassures the fact that she is just a little protective over her players, or what ever she seems to be pulling. In the mean time I feel bad for crank, can't imagine the stress of these childish "twitter wars" Jessica is provoking, while trying to find a foreign team.

Funny how people conveniently forget how there was no drama when Sleep, Golden, GanZi and TaeJa left.

This pretty much looks like CranK's fault, you don't announce to your fans that you've left your team when you have not even given your team notice.


Jessica is known for a very short temper, and really hates people who she thinks is trying to deceive her. Dragon did that, and apparently Crank is going the same route too.

On the other hand, the ones who kept it honest about wanting to join a foreign team (Ganzi and Teaja) still maintain a very good relationship with Slayers and Jessica.

Jessica isn't known for a very short temper. The community has painted her as having one, despite essentially no one ever having met her. I seriously can't remember the last time there was a legitimate complaint to be made against Jessica.


Even Jessica herself admitted to having a short temper back when she was just an actress.

But then again, a lot of Korean females have short and hot tempers. I know because I'm married to one.

so true so true.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37058 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 04:12:10
August 07 2012 04:11 GMT
#459
Holy hell...

the level of stupidity in this thread is astounding. Aside from the few posters who are actually making careful analyzed arguments, everyone else is just needlessly bashing Jessica and stating retarded things....

This thread needs to get locked, like right now...
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Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
August 07 2012 04:12 GMT
#460
On August 07 2012 12:57 NoGasfOu wrote:
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On August 07 2012 12:46 Roman666 wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:35 NoGasfOu wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:20 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:16 NoGasfOu wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:14 Shiori wrote:
On August 07 2012 12:13 NoGasfOu wrote:
On August 07 2012 11:51 mtn wrote:
On August 07 2012 11:46 NoGasfOu wrote:
So, is there a reason Slayers players keep making excuses to be able to go home and then start looking for a new team? Like Dragon saying retiring then started searching for a foreign team, similar with Crank's neck problem. There must be a reason. Could it be that some players are not allowed to leave. If they're allowed to leave by talking face to face with Jessica first, then they wouldn't need to create these uncomfortable excuses.

If certain player's heart is not there with the team anymore and wanted to search for a new team, then there's no need for Jessica to go on twitter. They're going to leave either way. I think Jessica is just sending message to the next players that want to leave. She just wants to make sure they know that it's going to be an uncomforable situation if they choose to leaves. probably a message to MMA.


OR just 2 players being a dick on the same team. Golden,Sleep, Ganzi and Teaja had no problems.

If they're being a dick, then Jessica should be happy and let them go. But, she clearly is not happy about them leaving at all.

Are you kidding me? See, this is what's stupid. It's like you've decided to put a negative spin on no matter what Jessica says.

No, I'm trying to figure out why the players had to make bad excuses to be able to leave the team.

Because they know their reason is going to be basically a spit in the faces of the management. It's also not a legitimate reason to be released from their contract. So they ask to be released on the basis of another reason, banking on their management's trust, only to turn around and join someone else.

That's extremely rude and disloyal.

If Golden,Sleep, Ganzi and Teaja can be released from the contract by talking face to face with Jessica first, then Dragon and Crank could as well. All of them basically had the exact reason for leaving the team. Those four were able to leave peacefully without spit in the face, but the other two had to make excuses.

Have you factored out possible immaturity of the two you speak about? Maybe they simply did not have the balls to talk to management? Do you seriously believe that, after Crank's reaction to twits, Jessica is solely to blame? He dropped out of the conversation/spat pretty quickly.

Lets say those two were immature and didn't have the ball to talk to her about leaving and had to come up with fake reasons. Is that a good reason for Jessica to twit all over the place. Crank basically said that he can't handle all the talks behind his back anymore and also dropped out of the twitter fight. I don't think it's that easy to drop out of a word fight. The person that drops out of a fight usually has to be a mature one. Dragon didn't even bother to fight. He just let Jessica twit whatever she wanted.

Well I agree with you, it is not a good reason, she should have just reprimand him and pass it by. Teens are teens, they tend to do stupid things as I did in my time. As for the dropping out of the fight, maybe he was afraid that some facts may go public or, as you put it, could not have been bothered to continue. We will never know I guess, and can speculate endlessly. But you must admit that, apart from Jessica twitting all over the place, it is a legitimate reason to think that these guys could be afraid of coming clean due to the fact that they are young.
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