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Hanetsuki
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany50 Posts
July 24 2012 13:21 GMT
#141

On the weekend, you will be in Busan playing in the GSTL finals

I was hoping to do an all-kill as the starting player but MMA will have that honour (T/N: hmm... the name is definitely MMA). If I do get sent out, I will finish up nicely.


Reading JYP's interview, really revealed my heart, concerning the whole topic about MMA. I hope MMA and SlayerS will start to get along again. Else i can't explain why they would use MMA as starting player...
Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
July 24 2012 13:34 GMT
#142
Hmmm... I wonder if MKP would actually live up to his word if he went out next season ^____^

Also, Hearts comment on ''anything to add'' is f*cking hilarious :D I bet he forgot to buy her a present...


Great work as always storywriter <3 <3
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 24 2012 13:36 GMT
#143
On July 24 2012 22:34 Coal wrote:
Also, Hearts comment on ''anything to add'' is f*cking hilarious :D I bet he forgot to buy her a present...

He can always give her a cheese, he seems to have plenty of that laying around...
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
July 24 2012 13:38 GMT
#144
On July 24 2012 21:30 niteReloaded wrote:
I'm saddened by Nazgul's player picking policy.
A bunch of guys who combined alltogether have a 1% chance of one day winning Code S + Taeja (who will probably switch teams as he gets more successful, like it happened with HuK).

TL gets insane exposure, how is it possible that they have to settle for 3rd tier players, while rejecting a skillful Korean with an interesting personality like Genius?

With the amount of unique visitors every day, TL could have the most sponsor money of all teams, the best players, competing to win GSL and GSTL every season.
For example, out of the 3 best foreigners, Stephano, Naniwa and Thorzain, none of them are on TL.

Even if they say a player has to be especially mannered etc (which you could say eliminates Naniwa and maybe even Stephano), what's wrong with Thorzain?


I think you vastly overestimate the money that TL makes from page-views/advertising.
Shadow_Dog
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada427 Posts
July 24 2012 13:42 GMT
#145
TIL that MK is a softie, I guess he will quit after next season then.
blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
July 24 2012 13:42 GMT
#146
On July 24 2012 19:01 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 18:54 Bagration wrote:
On July 24 2012 18:44 Ruscour wrote:
On July 24 2012 18:42 Bagration wrote:
What? Liquid turned down Genius yet they keep guys who haven't shown any substantial results in more than a year? Strange, but I guess Genius just asked for too much. Still, the guy has talent, and a very outgoing personality.

And of course, it is great to hear that MMA is the starter for the GSTL finals. Hopefully this means the friction is now behind them.

Liquid is more of a "family" and I can't imagine them picking up anyone not named SuperNoVa at least until after they sign SuperNoVa.


I don't think they signed Taeja because he was "family", they signed him for raw talent. :p

but like, in liquid rising, they want players they can develop
genius is well developed and possibly has already peaked.



They picked Taeja from the SlayerS talent tree tree.... What development are you talking about? Family? Like Zenio and Tyler right?

The only person I can think of that got better under TL has been Hero and maybe Ret.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 24 2012 13:45 GMT
#147
I think TL has made some pretty good pickups. Hero and Taeja are obviously the biggest headliners I'd say, but I've still a notable improvement in everyone else's play as well, even if it's not past the threshold of getting them into the GSL.
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
July 24 2012 13:46 GMT
#148
Hmm MKP doesn't seem to like Reality that much xD
Also Heart seems a bit egocentric to me. Maybe thank you know.. Like your team or something? The sponsors?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 24 2012 13:46 GMT
#149
On July 24 2012 22:42 blamekilly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 19:01 opterown wrote:
On July 24 2012 18:54 Bagration wrote:
On July 24 2012 18:44 Ruscour wrote:
On July 24 2012 18:42 Bagration wrote:
What? Liquid turned down Genius yet they keep guys who haven't shown any substantial results in more than a year? Strange, but I guess Genius just asked for too much. Still, the guy has talent, and a very outgoing personality.

And of course, it is great to hear that MMA is the starter for the GSTL finals. Hopefully this means the friction is now behind them.

Liquid is more of a "family" and I can't imagine them picking up anyone not named SuperNoVa at least until after they sign SuperNoVa.


I don't think they signed Taeja because he was "family", they signed him for raw talent. :p

but like, in liquid rising, they want players they can develop
genius is well developed and possibly has already peaked.



They picked Taeja from the SlayerS talent tree tree.... What development are you talking about? Family? Like Zenio and Tyler right?

The only person I can think of that got better under TL has been Hero and maybe Ret.

development as in, allowing them to shine. they discussed this in liquid rising :D
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The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
July 24 2012 13:47 GMT
#150
MKP dropping the gauntlet for Reality. I guess we'll see if he's right soon enough.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
July 24 2012 13:53 GMT
#151
Amazing how far some people go when they pick apart these interviews, its quite funny reading some of the comments here. xD

Thank you storywriter.
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blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
July 24 2012 13:55 GMT
#152
On July 24 2012 22:46 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 22:42 blamekilly wrote:
On July 24 2012 19:01 opterown wrote:
On July 24 2012 18:54 Bagration wrote:
On July 24 2012 18:44 Ruscour wrote:
On July 24 2012 18:42 Bagration wrote:
What? Liquid turned down Genius yet they keep guys who haven't shown any substantial results in more than a year? Strange, but I guess Genius just asked for too much. Still, the guy has talent, and a very outgoing personality.

And of course, it is great to hear that MMA is the starter for the GSTL finals. Hopefully this means the friction is now behind them.

Liquid is more of a "family" and I can't imagine them picking up anyone not named SuperNoVa at least until after they sign SuperNoVa.


I don't think they signed Taeja because he was "family", they signed him for raw talent. :p

but like, in liquid rising, they want players they can develop
genius is well developed and possibly has already peaked.



They picked Taeja from the SlayerS talent tree tree.... What development are you talking about? Family? Like Zenio and Tyler right?

The only person I can think of that got better under TL has been Hero and maybe Ret.

development as in, allowing them to shine. they discussed this in liquid rising :D



I just think people need to stop with the whole "he doesn't fit Liquid" crap. How similar were these tree pick ups, Hero, Zenio, Taeja??? They're not similar at all, they're completely different. Hero was b-teamer who had talent but no exposure. Liquid saw this and thought they could develop him. Zenio is a weird pick up. He's a guy that's not liked by many and he is low/mid level talent that already hit his ceiling. Taeja was raw top talent that was available at the right time. He was also already hugely popular within the SC2 community. I don't think Liquid has any real policy on player pick up, it's more like what they can afford and who is available at that time.
Greggle
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-24 13:56:11
July 24 2012 13:55 GMT
#153
Glad Liquid didn't pick up Genius, the MVP situation always seemed shady to me and I've always found him rather arrogant. Normally I'm a huge fan of arrogance and trash talking, but it isn't a liquid thing.

As for MMA opening... FUCK YEAH! Bring on the GSTL hype!


On July 24 2012 22:55 blamekilly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 22:46 opterown wrote:
On July 24 2012 22:42 blamekilly wrote:
On July 24 2012 19:01 opterown wrote:
On July 24 2012 18:54 Bagration wrote:
On July 24 2012 18:44 Ruscour wrote:
On July 24 2012 18:42 Bagration wrote:
What? Liquid turned down Genius yet they keep guys who haven't shown any substantial results in more than a year? Strange, but I guess Genius just asked for too much. Still, the guy has talent, and a very outgoing personality.

And of course, it is great to hear that MMA is the starter for the GSTL finals. Hopefully this means the friction is now behind them.

Liquid is more of a "family" and I can't imagine them picking up anyone not named SuperNoVa at least until after they sign SuperNoVa.


I don't think they signed Taeja because he was "family", they signed him for raw talent. :p

but like, in liquid rising, they want players they can develop
genius is well developed and possibly has already peaked.



They picked Taeja from the SlayerS talent tree tree.... What development are you talking about? Family? Like Zenio and Tyler right?

The only person I can think of that got better under TL has been Hero and maybe Ret.

development as in, allowing them to shine. they discussed this in liquid rising :D



I just think people need to stop with the whole "he doesn't fit Liquid" crap. How similar were these tree pick ups, Hero, Zenio, Taeja??? They're not similar at all, they're completely different. Hero was b-teamer who had talent but no exposure. Liquid saw this and thought they could develop him. Zenio is a weird pick up. He's a guy that's not liked by many and he is low/mid level talent that already hit his ceiling. Taeja was raw top talent that was available at the right time. He was also already hugely popular within the SC2 community. I don't think Liquid has any real policy on player pick up, it's more like what they can afford and who is available at that time.


It's all about personality really.
Life is too short to take it seriously.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-24 13:55:53
July 24 2012 13:55 GMT
#154
On July 24 2012 21:30 niteReloaded wrote:
I'm saddened by Nazgul's player picking policy.
A bunch of guys who combined alltogether have a 1% chance of one day winning Code S + Taeja (who will probably switch teams as he gets more successful, like it happened with HuK).

TL gets insane exposure, how is it possible that they have to settle for 3rd tier players, while rejecting a skillful Korean with an interesting personality like Genius?

With the amount of unique visitors every day, TL could have the most sponsor money of all teams, the best players, competing to win GSL and GSTL every season.
For example, out of the 3 best foreigners, Stephano, Naniwa and Thorzain, none of them are on TL.

Even if they say a player has to be especially mannered etc (which you could say eliminates Naniwa and maybe even Stephano), what's wrong with Thorzain?

No.
Other teams, such as Mouz, EG, Empire,.... have diverse business. They have teams for other games too, such as CS, DotA, LoL,..v.v..v. their players across all the games all have pretty good and consistent results to back up face for sponsors. Tha makes them appeal so much better to sponsors, and people also visit their webpages for all the games they play, which make their unique visitors comparable to TL. TL isn't better than other teams in any way.
Greggle
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1131 Posts
July 24 2012 13:57 GMT
#155
On July 24 2012 22:55 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 21:30 niteReloaded wrote:
I'm saddened by Nazgul's player picking policy.
A bunch of guys who combined alltogether have a 1% chance of one day winning Code S + Taeja (who will probably switch teams as he gets more successful, like it happened with HuK).

TL gets insane exposure, how is it possible that they have to settle for 3rd tier players, while rejecting a skillful Korean with an interesting personality like Genius?

With the amount of unique visitors every day, TL could have the most sponsor money of all teams, the best players, competing to win GSL and GSTL every season.
For example, out of the 3 best foreigners, Stephano, Naniwa and Thorzain, none of them are on TL.

Even if they say a player has to be especially mannered etc (which you could say eliminates Naniwa and maybe even Stephano), what's wrong with Thorzain?

No.
Other teams, such as Mouz, EG, Empire,.... have diverse business. They have teams for other games too, such as CS, DotA, LoL,..v.v..v. their players across all the games all have pretty good and consistent results to back up face for sponsors. Tha makes them appeal so much better to sponsors, and people also visit their webpages for all the games they play, which make their unique visitors comparable to TL. TL isn't better than other teams in any way.


TL pretty much IS the Starcraft community. I'd say that puts them ahead.
Life is too short to take it seriously.
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
July 24 2012 13:58 GMT
#156
Now that genius has secured his code s spot, I have no doubt a foreign team will pick him up soon
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 24 2012 14:10 GMT
#157
On July 24 2012 22:58 Incomplet wrote:
Now that genius has secured his code s spot, I have no doubt a foreign team will pick him up soon

Him and SuperNoVa have been Code S for really long and have yet to find a team. It's saddening how quickly Heart, Killer and NaDa got picked up by Complexity but how long it's taken for both of them to find a team. Maybe it's a salary bargaining issue. *shrug*.
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MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
July 24 2012 14:15 GMT
#158
MMA first in GSTL lineeup? WHATTT
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
July 24 2012 14:16 GMT
#159
On July 24 2012 23:15 MasterKang wrote:
MMA first in GSTL lineeup? WHATTT


He's a B-Teamer.

The B-Teamers come out first in GSTL :p
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 24 2012 14:18 GMT
#160
Maximum Korean saturation reached?
Foreign teams should expand more.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
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