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dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
April 10 2013 09:25 GMT
#1441
On April 10 2013 18:15 Shellshock1122 wrote:
If we go through with the change, congratulations to Terminator on becoming the new UWC!


Until he loses to Bear in SPL. Bwuahahahahaahahahhahaa.
Kalai
Profile Joined July 2010
Japan17 Posts
April 10 2013 10:04 GMT
#1442
Just a lurker's opinion, but I think these games absolutely should be counted. They're offline, broadcast live and a part of the WCS tournament (demonstrated by the fact that the players participating are more or less committing to play in WCS KR). All conditions required by the rules are fulfilled. As such, taking the results into account isn't a deviation from the original idea.
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
April 10 2013 10:31 GMT
#1443
Hmm, if we do do this, then maybe someone should go back through the books and see if there has ever been a time when like puma was champ and lost in the code a quals...
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DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
April 10 2013 10:59 GMT
#1444
On April 10 2013 19:31 Luepert wrote:
Hmm, if we do do this, then maybe someone should go back through the books and see if there has ever been a time when like puma was champ and lost in the code a quals...

We don't have to on account of this being WCS (not code A qualifiers). Second, not all the code A qualifiers were cast.
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
April 10 2013 11:03 GMT
#1445
On April 10 2013 19:31 Luepert wrote:
Hmm, if we do do this, then maybe someone should go back through the books and see if there has ever been a time when like puma was champ and lost in the code a quals...


I've just had a look and it doesn't change anything (although there are a couple of nailbiting moments with Curious and Baby both qualifying while UWC).
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 11:24:47
April 10 2013 11:24 GMT
#1446
On April 10 2013 20:03 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 19:31 Luepert wrote:
Hmm, if we do do this, then maybe someone should go back through the books and see if there has ever been a time when like puma was champ and lost in the code a quals...


I've just had a look and it doesn't change anything (although there are a couple of nailbiting moments with Curious and Baby both qualifying while UWC).


That settles it in my book then.
opterown, you ok with this?
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
April 10 2013 11:36 GMT
#1447
thread is already updated~
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
April 10 2013 11:39 GMT
#1448
On April 10 2013 20:36 opterown wrote:
thread is already updated~


Panic beat Bear, not Pet.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 10 2013 11:39 GMT
#1449
Panic beat bear.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
April 10 2013 11:40 GMT
#1450
oops, all these ex-zenex ST players are the same the same to me
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
April 10 2013 11:41 GMT
#1451
On April 10 2013 20:40 opterown wrote:
oops, all these ex-zenex ST players are the same the same to me


Yeah, so happy that Life finally qualified for Code A! :D
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
April 10 2013 18:26 GMT
#1452
Whoo, Terminator! Keeping him in my FPL, hope he keeps his title! Or not, I want another Bear.
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
April 10 2013 18:53 GMT
#1453
Team 8 play EG-TL next in Pro League so hopefully one of the EG-TL players can bring it out of the PL. I want to see the UWC at Dreamhack
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 10 2013 19:34 GMT
#1454
Bear - World Champion
Feb 19 2013 - Apr 10 2013

our grandsons will sing for him
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
ZodaSoda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1191 Posts
April 10 2013 22:30 GMT
#1455
now this just feels dirty....
LiquipediaI'm the strongest Dragon that you've ever seen, You're gonna die motherfucker, I take up five screens. -Kraid
Acer1791
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany182 Posts
April 10 2013 22:55 GMT
#1456
yeah it kinda feels wrong to make a change only cause khaldor showed some games..
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
April 10 2013 23:22 GMT
#1457
As long as I'm favorable to discharge Bear from this title (it was becoming realllllly long), I think we'll encounter a big issue with the new WCS. According to Blizzard, each region is equal in terms of prize pool / tournament format, etc. However, korean qualifiers (which is not the tournament itself) are played offline but neither the EU/NA qualifiers nor the first group stage will be.

So, will the first stages of the biggest SC2 tournament in the world be counted out of the UWC processus because they're online even so they are more important than korean code B (and belonging to the same tournament) ?
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Toganas
Profile Joined February 2011
United States63 Posts
April 11 2013 05:27 GMT
#1458
I just hope that Bear regains his title in the next week or so. I think it'd be absolute greatness and fitting for the UWC.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 11 2013 06:20 GMT
#1459
On April 11 2013 08:22 Boucot wrote:
As long as I'm favorable to discharge Bear from this title (it was becoming realllllly long), I think we'll encounter a big issue with the new WCS. According to Blizzard, each region is equal in terms of prize pool / tournament format, etc. However, korean qualifiers (which is not the tournament itself) are played offline but neither the EU/NA qualifiers nor the first group stage will be.

So, will the first stages of the biggest SC2 tournament in the world be counted out of the UWC processus because they're online even so they are more important than korean code B (and belonging to the same tournament) ?


Well, if Opterwon's rule is there to discount cross-server lag, and other uncertainties that come with online play, then, yes, it's reasonable to discount the online part of WCS. In fact, the online part of WCS is probably going to have all the ills of such online tournaments as TLS and MLG v. Proleague. And it would take away from the legitimacy of UWC (also known as fun), if the award bounces through random games where lag might play a major role.

On the other hand, if we do not allow Code B, despite it being played live and broadcasted because it's a qualifier, then we're also in trouble because we set a precedent that suggests we cannot count code A because it has the same structure as Code B: there is no winning player, it merely determines who is qualified for Code S.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
April 11 2013 06:23 GMT
#1460
On April 11 2013 08:22 Boucot wrote:
As long as I'm favorable to discharge Bear from this title (it was becoming realllllly long), I think we'll encounter a big issue with the new WCS. According to Blizzard, each region is equal in terms of prize pool / tournament format, etc. However, korean qualifiers (which is not the tournament itself) are played offline but neither the EU/NA qualifiers nor the first group stage will be.

So, will the first stages of the biggest SC2 tournament in the world be counted out of the UWC processus because they're online even so they are more important than korean code B (and belonging to the same tournament) ?


This isn't a problem with the UWC, this is a problem with WCS being thrown together with little preparation and poor structure outside of Korea. I have yet to talk to a single manager or player that feels WCS EU/NA should be online for as long as it is heh.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
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