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Please stop with the jokes/posts that speculate something sexual or scandalous is at play here. They do not contribute to discussion and are generally of very poor taste.
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
July 17 2012 11:53 GMT
#681
On July 17 2012 20:49 plogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 20:31 mememolly wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:28 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:28 mememolly wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:20 Skwid1g wrote:
On July 17 2012 18:29 mememolly wrote:
why would a foreign team want a player who can't accept a team's decision?

foreign teams should build up foreigners not take on koreans when they fall out with their team

I also hate the way koreans think they can just walk into every foreign team no questions asked


Because the decision may be unfounded? Your post literally makes no sense. Why should foreign teams pick up bad foreigners and build them up when there are already better players? How is that fair to the players that practice harder and are better at the game?

No Korean thinks that, but they *know* most foreign teams would want them. Because, you know, they're better than foreigners.


by building up foreigners I meant foreigners who are working hard (maybe even harder) than certain korean players

Your last point makes no sense tbh, surely "knowing" requires them to think, anyways I just think that is is douchey that some korean players just assume that a foreign team would want them, it's not to say that this is right or wrong just that it comes across as douchey


If foreigners were working harder than Koreans, there would be a Foreigner GSL Title....


not really, talent has a lot to do with it, stephano doesn't work as hard as other players but wins because of "natural" talent, plus there are a lot of boundaries for foreigners to overcome in korea while competing in GSL so this can also play a factor, it is more complex than just who works the hardest


If talent has a lot to do with it, why not capitalize on talented Koreans to win games and sponsorship for your team? Foreign or not has nothing to do with it, again. Let's drop your Korean bashing and get back to speculations about MMA.

MMA is going to stay at SlayerS imo. He is too valuable to be dropped. Still one of the best Terrans in the world. His slump might have to do a lot with -all- terrans having a hard time currently.


Pretty likely. His strength was always TvZ and the matchup is broken, and his weakness was TvP and that's got harder too.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
July 17 2012 11:54 GMT
#682
Starting to understand why so many SlayerS players talk about MMA as a douche. Very unprofessional of him to make a scene out of this, no matter what the reason is. He is still contracted by SlayerS, he should not be removing slayers tag etc.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
July 17 2012 11:54 GMT
#683
On July 17 2012 20:31 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 20:28 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:28 mememolly wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:20 Skwid1g wrote:
On July 17 2012 18:29 mememolly wrote:
why would a foreign team want a player who can't accept a team's decision?

foreign teams should build up foreigners not take on koreans when they fall out with their team

I also hate the way koreans think they can just walk into every foreign team no questions asked


Because the decision may be unfounded? Your post literally makes no sense. Why should foreign teams pick up bad foreigners and build them up when there are already better players? How is that fair to the players that practice harder and are better at the game?

No Korean thinks that, but they *know* most foreign teams would want them. Because, you know, they're better than foreigners.


by building up foreigners I meant foreigners who are working hard (maybe even harder) than certain korean players

Your last point makes no sense tbh, surely "knowing" requires them to think, anyways I just think that is is douchey that some korean players just assume that a foreign team would want them, it's not to say that this is right or wrong just that it comes across as douchey


If foreigners were working harder than Koreans, there would be a Foreigner GSL Title....


not really, talent has a lot to do with it, stephano doesn't work as hard as other players but wins because of "natural" talent, plus there are a lot of boundaries for foreigners to overcome in korea while competing in GSL so this can also play a factor, it is more complex than just who works the hardest


there are always exceptions but as a general rule of thumb hard work and dedication gives you success in GSL.
Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
July 17 2012 11:54 GMT
#684
On July 17 2012 20:49 plogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 20:31 mememolly wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:28 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:28 mememolly wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:20 Skwid1g wrote:
On July 17 2012 18:29 mememolly wrote:
why would a foreign team want a player who can't accept a team's decision?

foreign teams should build up foreigners not take on koreans when they fall out with their team

I also hate the way koreans think they can just walk into every foreign team no questions asked


Because the decision may be unfounded? Your post literally makes no sense. Why should foreign teams pick up bad foreigners and build them up when there are already better players? How is that fair to the players that practice harder and are better at the game?

No Korean thinks that, but they *know* most foreign teams would want them. Because, you know, they're better than foreigners.


by building up foreigners I meant foreigners who are working hard (maybe even harder) than certain korean players

Your last point makes no sense tbh, surely "knowing" requires them to think, anyways I just think that is is douchey that some korean players just assume that a foreign team would want them, it's not to say that this is right or wrong just that it comes across as douchey


If foreigners were working harder than Koreans, there would be a Foreigner GSL Title....


not really, talent has a lot to do with it, stephano doesn't work as hard as other players but wins because of "natural" talent, plus there are a lot of boundaries for foreigners to overcome in korea while competing in GSL so this can also play a factor, it is more complex than just who works the hardest


If talent has a lot to do with it, why not capitalize on talented Koreans to win games and sponsorship for your team? Foreign or not has nothing to do with it, again. Let's drop your Korean bashing and get back to speculations about MMA.

MMA is going to stay at SlayerS imo. He is too valuable to be dropped. Still one of the best Terrans in the world. His slump might have to do a lot with -all- terrans having a hard time currently.


How is it "Korean bashing" when he says that Koreans who just assume foreign teams want them are being douchey? They're being egotistical at the very least. He even says that MMA might be right or wrong, it's more the assumption that the poster is taking offense to. I swear, question something/someone and suddenly you're hating on them.

I don't even necessarily agree with this guy, but the kneejerk racist/xenophobe labeling that goes on is ridiculous.
HaXeR
Profile Joined December 2011
Czech Republic189 Posts
July 17 2012 11:59 GMT
#685
On July 17 2012 20:54 shabby wrote:
Starting to understand why so many SlayerS players talk about MMA as a douche. Very unprofessional of him to make a scene out of this, no matter what the reason is. He is still contracted by SlayerS, he should not be removing slayers tag etc.

Source...?
HaXeR
Profile Joined December 2011
Czech Republic189 Posts
July 17 2012 12:03 GMT
#686
On July 17 2012 20:54 farnham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 20:31 mememolly wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:28 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:28 mememolly wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:20 Skwid1g wrote:
On July 17 2012 18:29 mememolly wrote:
why would a foreign team want a player who can't accept a team's decision?

foreign teams should build up foreigners not take on koreans when they fall out with their team

I also hate the way koreans think they can just walk into every foreign team no questions asked


Because the decision may be unfounded? Your post literally makes no sense. Why should foreign teams pick up bad foreigners and build them up when there are already better players? How is that fair to the players that practice harder and are better at the game?

No Korean thinks that, but they *know* most foreign teams would want them. Because, you know, they're better than foreigners.


by building up foreigners I meant foreigners who are working hard (maybe even harder) than certain korean players

Your last point makes no sense tbh, surely "knowing" requires them to think, anyways I just think that is is douchey that some korean players just assume that a foreign team would want them, it's not to say that this is right or wrong just that it comes across as douchey


If foreigners were working harder than Koreans, there would be a Foreigner GSL Title....


not really, talent has a lot to do with it, stephano doesn't work as hard as other players but wins because of "natural" talent, plus there are a lot of boundaries for foreigners to overcome in korea while competing in GSL so this can also play a factor, it is more complex than just who works the hardest


there are always exceptions but as a general rule of thumb hard work and dedication gives you success in GSL.

Do you really think that Stephano practices 3 hours a day, week before big tournament goes ski and then wins that tournament? Did you heard of anybody else who would be similar? Think twice before you believe everything you hear..
halfies
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom327 Posts
July 17 2012 12:06 GMT
#687
On July 17 2012 20:22 najreteip wrote:
well this is over

edit: I've been posting in the wrong thread :/
/facepalm

hahahah, i saw your posts and was so confused, but this explains it all
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
July 17 2012 12:15 GMT
#688
Still a lot of information not posted, best of luck to MMA.
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
July 17 2012 12:18 GMT
#689
Wow we still have no updated info on this? Khaldor??? Wolf??? Thorzain? What is going on???!!!!
DonGrisu
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria697 Posts
July 17 2012 12:18 GMT
#690
FnaticRcMMA... Yeah with Moon, Oz, Alive,...
Fnatic 4 Ever...!!
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 12:22:25
July 17 2012 12:20 GMT
#691
On July 17 2012 20:31 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 20:28 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:28 mememolly wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:20 Skwid1g wrote:
On July 17 2012 18:29 mememolly wrote:
why would a foreign team want a player who can't accept a team's decision?

foreign teams should build up foreigners not take on koreans when they fall out with their team

I also hate the way koreans think they can just walk into every foreign team no questions asked


Because the decision may be unfounded? Your post literally makes no sense. Why should foreign teams pick up bad foreigners and build them up when there are already better players? How is that fair to the players that practice harder and are better at the game?

No Korean thinks that, but they *know* most foreign teams would want them. Because, you know, they're better than foreigners.


by building up foreigners I meant foreigners who are working hard (maybe even harder) than certain korean players

Your last point makes no sense tbh, surely "knowing" requires them to think, anyways I just think that is is douchey that some korean players just assume that a foreign team would want them, it's not to say that this is right or wrong just that it comes across as douchey


If foreigners were working harder than Koreans, there would be a Foreigner GSL Title....


not really, talent has a lot to do with it, stephano doesn't work as hard as other players but wins because of "natural" talent, plus there are a lot of boundaries for foreigners to overcome in korea while competing in GSL so this can also play a factor, it is more complex than just who works the hardest


What Stephano says about his practice regime is pretty much a bullcrap. He works as hard if not harder then other pros. EU pros have spoken about it and also EG players did when Stephano was there.

Edit: Not arguing that there is no "talent" aspect to it, there is something else then just work making people like Flash be godly at the game, but Stephano does put a shit ton of work into his play.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 17 2012 12:22 GMT
#692
On July 17 2012 21:18 blamekilly wrote:
Wow we still have no updated info on this? Khaldor??? Wolf??? Thorzain? What is going on???!!!!


They're quite busy at the moment...
LiquipediaWanderer
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 17 2012 12:24 GMT
#693
On July 17 2012 21:22 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 21:18 blamekilly wrote:
Wow we still have no updated info on this? Khaldor??? Wolf??? Thorzain? What is going on???!!!!


They're quite busy at the moment...


They're also probably not going to just go spreading gossipy stuff :p
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
July 17 2012 12:28 GMT
#694
This thread is really entertaining. I wondered what the funni story is <3
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 17 2012 12:29 GMT
#695
On July 17 2012 20:54 shabby wrote:
Starting to understand why so many SlayerS players talk about MMA as a douche. Very unprofessional of him to make a scene out of this, no matter what the reason is. He is still contracted by SlayerS, he should not be removing slayers tag etc.


Woosh

I think most of the Slayers players jokingly "hate" MMA for making them look bad, not because he is actually an ass. Second, let's wait until the full story comes out before making such damning conclusions, shall we?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
July 17 2012 12:29 GMT
#696
On July 17 2012 12:10 dragonborn wrote:
MMA without SlayerS tag?

Just doesnt seems right



This pretty much says it all. I wonder what happened to cause this.
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
July 17 2012 12:29 GMT
#697
MMAde a move on Jessica?
이제동 - 이영호 since '07.
beesinyoface
Profile Joined May 2012
2450 Posts
July 17 2012 12:30 GMT
#698
Not really going to read too much into the situation until more info is released. Regardless, MMA sports a Tigers hat so therefore I have love towards him.
aaaaa
Jaegeru
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom676 Posts
July 17 2012 12:31 GMT
#699
On July 17 2012 21:18 blamekilly wrote:
Wow we still have no updated info on this? Khaldor??? Wolf??? Thorzain? What is going on???!!!!


They're too busy working and practicing which is the correct thing to do rather than just tweeting and speculating more which would be like pouring petrol onto a fire.
MVP on winning his Fourth GSL - "Yeah I know the routine, take the flowers and cheque, I will kiss the trophy for the photo"
Aserrin
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay231 Posts
July 17 2012 12:34 GMT
#700
On July 17 2012 20:54 shabby wrote:
Starting to understand why so many SlayerS players talk about MMA as a douche. Very unprofessional of him to make a scene out of this, no matter what the reason is. He is still contracted by SlayerS, he should not be removing slayers tag etc.

Wow, he took his slayers tag from twitter, what a douche!
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