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Please stop with the jokes/posts that speculate something sexual or scandalous is at play here. They do not contribute to discussion and are generally of very poor taste.
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
July 17 2012 11:21 GMT
#661
Ah the infamous "I was forced to" excuse
we're not falling for it Khaldor
I have no quote!
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
July 17 2012 11:21 GMT
#662
On July 17 2012 20:14 NexUmbra wrote:
Damn there are somethings that just GO, like it will be really difficult to start saying Whatever_MMA

When MC changed from oGs I still always called him oGsMC. It's like if MVP or NesTea left IM. It just isn't right :'(


Personally, i still want MVP to join team Mvp.

Wasn't there a history of MMA being the star of the team but not really part of the team on a personal level, i.e. his teammates don't really like him that much? Or am i confusing him with someone else?
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 11:23:10
July 17 2012 11:22 GMT
#663
well this is over

edit: I've been posting in the wrong thread :/
/facepalm
I have no quote!
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
July 17 2012 11:23 GMT
#664
On July 17 2012 20:21 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 20:14 NexUmbra wrote:
Damn there are somethings that just GO, like it will be really difficult to start saying Whatever_MMA

When MC changed from oGs I still always called him oGsMC. It's like if MVP or NesTea left IM. It just isn't right :'(


Personally, i still want MVP to join team Mvp.

Wasn't there a history of MMA being the star of the team but not really part of the team on a personal level, i.e. his teammates don't really like him that much? Or am i confusing him with someone else?

I have never seen anything that says SlayerS team mates not liking eachother. You're probably confusing him with someone else
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
July 17 2012 11:24 GMT
#665
I got all the laugh from this thread.

people on TL sure know how to make jokes hahaha!
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
July 17 2012 11:26 GMT
#666
Do we have any news ? Any twitters thingy ? From any of the pros / Slayers / Managers ?

I can't seem to find any in this thread (also i skipped from 20 to 30)
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
July 17 2012 11:28 GMT
#667
On July 17 2012 20:20 Skwid1g wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 18:29 mememolly wrote:
why would a foreign team want a player who can't accept a team's decision?

foreign teams should build up foreigners not take on koreans when they fall out with their team

I also hate the way koreans think they can just walk into every foreign team no questions asked


Because the decision may be unfounded? Your post literally makes no sense. Why should foreign teams pick up bad foreigners and build them up when there are already better players? How is that fair to the players that practice harder and are better at the game?

No Korean thinks that, but they *know* most foreign teams would want them. Because, you know, they're better than foreigners.


by building up foreigners I meant foreigners who are working hard (maybe even harder) than certain korean players

Your last point makes no sense tbh, surely "knowing" requires them to think, anyways I just think that is is douchey that some korean players just assume that a foreign team would want them, it's not to say that this is right or wrong just that it comes across as douchey
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 17 2012 11:28 GMT
#668
On July 17 2012 20:11 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 19:56 Eufouria wrote:
The baseless speculation in this thread… it hurts so bad.

This situation is interesting though, I've always got the impression that MMA, Crank and Puzzle are the senior members of the SlayerS team, so for MMA to get demoted to B-team and both him and Crank to change their twitter names then there is likely more to this than just MMA getting punished and wanting to join a foreign team.


Crank is definitely not a senior member of the team. He's a relative newcomer. Alicia has been on the team since the early days, as is Ryung, who had been with the team since the first GSTLs. Puzzle was acquired late-summer 2011 from Zenex.

Crank is often at GSL supporting his teammates, while Ryung and Alicia are not. Crank was also on SKT1.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 17 2012 11:28 GMT
#669
On July 17 2012 20:28 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 20:20 Skwid1g wrote:
On July 17 2012 18:29 mememolly wrote:
why would a foreign team want a player who can't accept a team's decision?

foreign teams should build up foreigners not take on koreans when they fall out with their team

I also hate the way koreans think they can just walk into every foreign team no questions asked


Because the decision may be unfounded? Your post literally makes no sense. Why should foreign teams pick up bad foreigners and build them up when there are already better players? How is that fair to the players that practice harder and are better at the game?

No Korean thinks that, but they *know* most foreign teams would want them. Because, you know, they're better than foreigners.


by building up foreigners I meant foreigners who are working hard (maybe even harder) than certain korean players

Your last point makes no sense tbh, surely "knowing" requires them to think, anyways I just think that is is douchey that some korean players just assume that a foreign team would want them, it's not to say that this is right or wrong just that it comes across as douchey


If foreigners were working harder than Koreans, there would be a Foreigner GSL Title....
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S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
July 17 2012 11:30 GMT
#670
On July 17 2012 20:28 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 20:11 Bagration wrote:
On July 17 2012 19:56 Eufouria wrote:
The baseless speculation in this thread… it hurts so bad.

This situation is interesting though, I've always got the impression that MMA, Crank and Puzzle are the senior members of the SlayerS team, so for MMA to get demoted to B-team and both him and Crank to change their twitter names then there is likely more to this than just MMA getting punished and wanting to join a foreign team.


Crank is definitely not a senior member of the team. He's a relative newcomer. Alicia has been on the team since the early days, as is Ryung, who had been with the team since the first GSTLs. Puzzle was acquired late-summer 2011 from Zenex.

Crank is often at GSL supporting his teammates, while Ryung and Alicia are not. Crank was also on SKT1.

Irrelevant when it comes to seniority in SlayerS.

Alicia and Ryung were the 1st generation. CranK only came in few months ago.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 11:31:56
July 17 2012 11:31 GMT
#671
On July 17 2012 20:28 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 20:28 mememolly wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:20 Skwid1g wrote:
On July 17 2012 18:29 mememolly wrote:
why would a foreign team want a player who can't accept a team's decision?

foreign teams should build up foreigners not take on koreans when they fall out with their team

I also hate the way koreans think they can just walk into every foreign team no questions asked


Because the decision may be unfounded? Your post literally makes no sense. Why should foreign teams pick up bad foreigners and build them up when there are already better players? How is that fair to the players that practice harder and are better at the game?

No Korean thinks that, but they *know* most foreign teams would want them. Because, you know, they're better than foreigners.


by building up foreigners I meant foreigners who are working hard (maybe even harder) than certain korean players

Your last point makes no sense tbh, surely "knowing" requires them to think, anyways I just think that is is douchey that some korean players just assume that a foreign team would want them, it's not to say that this is right or wrong just that it comes across as douchey


If foreigners were working harder than Koreans, there would be a Foreigner GSL Title....


not really, talent has a lot to do with it, stephano doesn't work as hard as other players but wins because of "natural" talent, plus there are a lot of boundaries for foreigners to overcome in korea while competing in GSL so this can also play a factor, it is more complex than just who works the hardest
SelK
Profile Joined May 2011
France81 Posts
July 17 2012 11:32 GMT
#672
Perhaps he received offers from foreign teams promising him a better salary and showed that to Jessica in order to discuss a pay rise, which was then seen as unloyalty.
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
July 17 2012 11:37 GMT
#673
On July 17 2012 20:32 SelK wrote:
Perhaps he received offers from foreign teams promising him a better salary and showed that to Jessica in order to discuss a pay rise, which was then seen as unloyalty.


Well, Diamond said there's a funny story behind it and that wouldn't exactly be a funny story
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
July 17 2012 11:40 GMT
#674
On July 17 2012 20:37 SolidMustard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 20:32 SelK wrote:
Perhaps he received offers from foreign teams promising him a better salary and showed that to Jessica in order to discuss a pay rise, which was then seen as unloyalty.


Well, Diamond said there's a funny story behind it and that wouldn't exactly be a funny story

its not a funny story to kick out the face of the team out of the house and demotes him to B team
yo
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 17 2012 11:40 GMT
#675
On July 17 2012 20:31 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 20:28 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:28 mememolly wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:20 Skwid1g wrote:
On July 17 2012 18:29 mememolly wrote:
why would a foreign team want a player who can't accept a team's decision?

foreign teams should build up foreigners not take on koreans when they fall out with their team

I also hate the way koreans think they can just walk into every foreign team no questions asked


Because the decision may be unfounded? Your post literally makes no sense. Why should foreign teams pick up bad foreigners and build them up when there are already better players? How is that fair to the players that practice harder and are better at the game?

No Korean thinks that, but they *know* most foreign teams would want them. Because, you know, they're better than foreigners.


by building up foreigners I meant foreigners who are working hard (maybe even harder) than certain korean players

Your last point makes no sense tbh, surely "knowing" requires them to think, anyways I just think that is is douchey that some korean players just assume that a foreign team would want them, it's not to say that this is right or wrong just that it comes across as douchey


If foreigners were working harder than Koreans, there would be a Foreigner GSL Title....


not really, talent has a lot to do with it, stephano doesn't work as hard as other players but wins because of "natural" talent, plus there are a lot of boundaries for foreigners to overcome in korea while competing in GSL so this can also play a factor, it is more complex than just who works the hardest


That's exaclty my point. Stephano could take a GSL if he worked as hard as the most dedicated koreans....

There are talented koreans and koreans who get results because of insane preparation.

Some foreigners have talent (Stephano is the best example), but lack some work (I'm not saying they don't work at all, don't misinterpret ^^), exception is Naniwa...

It's visible in how Koreans dominate the scene, though some foreigners still manage to get some tournaments, but only foreign ones. GSL is still Korean only (with never more than 3-4 exception, 1 in code S).
LiquipediaWanderer
dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
July 17 2012 11:41 GMT
#676
On July 17 2012 12:10 dragonborn wrote:
MMA without SlayerS tag?

Just doesnt seems right

So true
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
July 17 2012 11:42 GMT
#677
On July 17 2012 20:28 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 20:28 mememolly wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:20 Skwid1g wrote:
On July 17 2012 18:29 mememolly wrote:
why would a foreign team want a player who can't accept a team's decision?

foreign teams should build up foreigners not take on koreans when they fall out with their team

I also hate the way koreans think they can just walk into every foreign team no questions asked


Because the decision may be unfounded? Your post literally makes no sense. Why should foreign teams pick up bad foreigners and build them up when there are already better players? How is that fair to the players that practice harder and are better at the game?

No Korean thinks that, but they *know* most foreign teams would want them. Because, you know, they're better than foreigners.


by building up foreigners I meant foreigners who are working hard (maybe even harder) than certain korean players

Your last point makes no sense tbh, surely "knowing" requires them to think, anyways I just think that is is douchey that some korean players just assume that a foreign team would want them, it's not to say that this is right or wrong just that it comes across as douchey


If foreigners were working harder than Koreans, there would be a Foreigner GSL Title....

Korean has RTS gene in their veins though
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 17 2012 11:44 GMT
#678
On July 17 2012 20:42 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 20:28 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:28 mememolly wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:20 Skwid1g wrote:
On July 17 2012 18:29 mememolly wrote:
why would a foreign team want a player who can't accept a team's decision?

foreign teams should build up foreigners not take on koreans when they fall out with their team

I also hate the way koreans think they can just walk into every foreign team no questions asked


Because the decision may be unfounded? Your post literally makes no sense. Why should foreign teams pick up bad foreigners and build them up when there are already better players? How is that fair to the players that practice harder and are better at the game?

No Korean thinks that, but they *know* most foreign teams would want them. Because, you know, they're better than foreigners.


by building up foreigners I meant foreigners who are working hard (maybe even harder) than certain korean players

Your last point makes no sense tbh, surely "knowing" requires them to think, anyways I just think that is is douchey that some korean players just assume that a foreign team would want them, it's not to say that this is right or wrong just that it comes across as douchey


If foreigners were working harder than Koreans, there would be a Foreigner GSL Title....

Korean has RTS gene in their veins though


Yup I agree. But it includes an incredible discipline when it comes to training imho.
LiquipediaWanderer
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
July 17 2012 11:48 GMT
#679
FnaticRC_MMA please !!!

I was cheering for Slayers just because of MMA and Alicia , but there always been something wrong in this team.. dunno what..
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
July 17 2012 11:49 GMT
#680
On July 17 2012 20:31 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 20:28 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:28 mememolly wrote:
On July 17 2012 20:20 Skwid1g wrote:
On July 17 2012 18:29 mememolly wrote:
why would a foreign team want a player who can't accept a team's decision?

foreign teams should build up foreigners not take on koreans when they fall out with their team

I also hate the way koreans think they can just walk into every foreign team no questions asked


Because the decision may be unfounded? Your post literally makes no sense. Why should foreign teams pick up bad foreigners and build them up when there are already better players? How is that fair to the players that practice harder and are better at the game?

No Korean thinks that, but they *know* most foreign teams would want them. Because, you know, they're better than foreigners.


by building up foreigners I meant foreigners who are working hard (maybe even harder) than certain korean players

Your last point makes no sense tbh, surely "knowing" requires them to think, anyways I just think that is is douchey that some korean players just assume that a foreign team would want them, it's not to say that this is right or wrong just that it comes across as douchey


If foreigners were working harder than Koreans, there would be a Foreigner GSL Title....


not really, talent has a lot to do with it, stephano doesn't work as hard as other players but wins because of "natural" talent, plus there are a lot of boundaries for foreigners to overcome in korea while competing in GSL so this can also play a factor, it is more complex than just who works the hardest


If talent has a lot to do with it, why not capitalize on talented Koreans to win games and sponsorship for your team? Foreign or not has nothing to do with it, again. Let's drop your Korean bashing and get back to speculations about MMA.

MMA is going to stay at SlayerS imo. He is too valuable to be dropped. Still one of the best Terrans in the world. His slump might have to do a lot with -all- terrans having a hard time currently.
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