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Please stop with the jokes/posts that speculate something sexual or scandalous is at play here. They do not contribute to discussion and are generally of very poor taste.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
July 17 2012 05:00 GMT
#321
On July 17 2012 13:58 lisward wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 13:50 Flamingo777 wrote:
On July 17 2012 12:12 IRL_Sinister wrote:
Bit dramatic from MMA to want to join a foreign team because of one disciplinary sanction. We don't get the full picture here so it's hard to tell what the problem is; ie with Slayers, the Manager or MMA himself.

not really, if a working person was to get demoted and suffer a drastic decline in working conditions, it is completely fine to want to work for another company that might admire their proficiency more than their current company.

That's just how I see it though.

Also, he is only being demoted for 16 days, so I feel that what he did can't be as serious as what Coca did at least, because Coca was demoted for a very long time. Maybe he just doesn't feel the punishment is fair?


??? Did you read a bad translation, I think the number 16 refers to when his demotion came into effect. 16 would be such an arbitrary number
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
July 17 2012 05:01 GMT
#322
The real question is . . . what would happen if Stephano were on slayers?

Is there even a word for that kind of potential drama?
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
July 17 2012 05:01 GMT
#323
On July 17 2012 13:44 Praetorial wrote:
poor MMA...

When ur name is MMA it's not gona be hard to find a new team...a top tier foreign team and win a ton of money.
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
July 17 2012 05:02 GMT
#324
On July 17 2012 14:00 mango_destroyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 13:58 lisward wrote:
On July 17 2012 13:50 Flamingo777 wrote:
On July 17 2012 12:12 IRL_Sinister wrote:
Bit dramatic from MMA to want to join a foreign team because of one disciplinary sanction. We don't get the full picture here so it's hard to tell what the problem is; ie with Slayers, the Manager or MMA himself.

not really, if a working person was to get demoted and suffer a drastic decline in working conditions, it is completely fine to want to work for another company that might admire their proficiency more than their current company.

That's just how I see it though.

Also, he is only being demoted for 16 days, so I feel that what he did can't be as serious as what Coca did at least, because Coca was demoted for a very long time. Maybe he just doesn't feel the punishment is fair?


??? Did you read a bad translation, I think the number 16 refers to when his demotion came into effect. 16 would be such an arbitrary number


yeah i saw the same translation, it's not 16 days, it started the 16th. ugh, I hope we get an official statement today.
BadBinky
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland649 Posts
July 17 2012 05:02 GMT
#325
If MKP was in SlayerS he would be a B teamer after that tweet.
It's more important to be tough than to have any fun.
IMLyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada714 Posts
July 17 2012 05:02 GMT
#326
I wonder what happens at SlayerS that has them losing players all the time.
I'ma show you how great I am ~ Muhammed Ali
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 17 2012 05:03 GMT
#327
Motivation problems? Slayers decides to do this or maybe something that is similar to Coca? I doubt it. Until we know what really happened, we might understand the situation and the actions.

I'll patiently wait for more info, meanwhile good luck to MMA. Hope everything solves out.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
fairymonger
Profile Joined June 2011
United States81 Posts
July 17 2012 05:03 GMT
#328
Really be interesting on how this plays out. Hopefully he didnt do anything too bad ><
Never give up on your dreams. Without dreams man is nothing
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 17 2012 05:04 GMT
#329
Good to see an official post!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
cronichazel
Profile Joined May 2012
United States81 Posts
July 17 2012 05:04 GMT
#330
On July 17 2012 13:56 CajunMan wrote:
He probably got eve prego.


u know, I do think there might have been some kinda relationship with eve that is disturbing the team house
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15683 Posts
July 17 2012 05:05 GMT
#331
On July 17 2012 14:02 Mutality wrote:
I wonder what happens at SlayerS that has them losing players all the time.


Consider this: You know how Jessica has a reputation of being somewhat crazy and super overaggressive? Consider the fact that this image is what she shows to the public. The wife of Boxer, one of the most famous people in Korea, and this is how she behaves in public, knowing very well how much people watch her every move. Now imagine what she is like behind closed doors. Its gotta be a downright nightmare. Obviously I have no inside information, but I cannot imagine that she is a positive influence on the Slayers atmosphere.
PhoenixDark
Profile Joined March 2011
United States286 Posts
July 17 2012 05:07 GMT
#332
I don't think the MMA news has anything to do with Jessica per se. Boxer considered MMA his protege and seemed very invested in him becoming a truly great player and leader. But like nearly every GSL winner, MMA's play deteriorated shortly after his big win. GSL winners get a large sum of money, and given how young most are, it's not surprising that they seemingly become relaxed after winning, and decide to start spending the money (sure they buy their parents stuff, but they also clearly spend it on themselves). And while most of the GSL winners rebound eventually, some sooner than others, MMA has pretty much fallen off the map.

We were talking in the NASL thread about his heavy micro/aggression style going out of style as Terran became more macro oriented, and I think that's part of the reason he has fallen off. Another reason is likely due to practice. If he isn't showing the proper determination in practice, I could totally see Boxer attempting to demote him as a means of motivating/shaming him. But apparently it backfired...

I think we're going to see more of this. BW pros practiced under harsher and more concentrated circumstances than most SC2 players. That's not to say SC2 players don't practice, just that they aren't practicing as much as many BW teams do/did. Boxer is obviously from that old school mind set, and has witnessed players on his own former teams work very hard and ultimately reach great heights (iloveoov). I wouldn't be surprised if he is trying to get MMA to that level, but MMA is simply not as motivated.

Joining a foreigner team offers great opportunity while rewarding laziness in many ways; if MMA were to join a major foreigner team, it's very unlikely he would "have" to practice hard, and would instead be flown from tournament to tournament enjoying the thrill of fans and winning money. I fear that if we continue to see moves like this, the Korean scene might begin to protect itself by cooperating less and less with foreign teams/tournaments.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=435469
lisward
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Singapore959 Posts
July 17 2012 05:08 GMT
#333
On July 17 2012 14:02 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 14:00 mango_destroyer wrote:
On July 17 2012 13:58 lisward wrote:
On July 17 2012 13:50 Flamingo777 wrote:
On July 17 2012 12:12 IRL_Sinister wrote:
Bit dramatic from MMA to want to join a foreign team because of one disciplinary sanction. We don't get the full picture here so it's hard to tell what the problem is; ie with Slayers, the Manager or MMA himself.

not really, if a working person was to get demoted and suffer a drastic decline in working conditions, it is completely fine to want to work for another company that might admire their proficiency more than their current company.

That's just how I see it though.

Also, he is only being demoted for 16 days, so I feel that what he did can't be as serious as what Coca did at least, because Coca was demoted for a very long time. Maybe he just doesn't feel the punishment is fair?


??? Did you read a bad translation, I think the number 16 refers to when his demotion came into effect. 16 would be such an arbitrary number


yeah i saw the same translation, it's not 16 days, it started the 16th. ugh, I hope we get an official statement today.

God damn Internet people pretending to know korean
Opinions are like phasers -- everybody ought to have one
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
July 17 2012 05:09 GMT
#334
WHAT THE F@%$?!

Is Slayers trying to destroy their team?!
MMA's like the ace player!
His games against DongRaeGu a few weeks ago in LA were pretty top notch!
moo...for DRG
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
July 17 2012 05:09 GMT
#335
On July 17 2012 13:51 Kamwah wrote:
Ganzi supposedly forfeiting his match in Code A...

MMA being punished for something.


I have come to the conclusion that MMA killed Ganzi.



Hahahahaha that's pretty good actually.
Trans Rights
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
July 17 2012 05:10 GMT
#336
hopefully he will be able to join a foreign team, he is underpaid and undersupported on SlayerS
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Dr.Sin
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1126 Posts
July 17 2012 05:10 GMT
#337
This is shocking. Slayers' management needs to pause and assess how they have been hemorrhaging talent for the past few months.
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
July 17 2012 05:11 GMT
#338
On July 17 2012 14:07 PhoenixDark wrote:
I don't think the MMA news has anything to do with Jessica per se. Boxer considered MMA his protege and seemed very invested in him becoming a truly great player and leader. But like nearly every GSL winner, MMA's play deteriorated shortly after his big win. GSL winners get a large sum of money, and given how young most are, it's not surprising that they seemingly become relaxed after winning, and decide to start spending the money (sure they buy their parents stuff, but they also clearly spend it on themselves). And while most of the GSL winners rebound eventually, some sooner than others, MMA has pretty much fallen off the map.

We were talking in the NASL thread about his heavy micro/aggression style going out of style as Terran became more macro oriented, and I think that's part of the reason he has fallen off. Another reason is likely due to practice. If he isn't showing the proper determination in practice, I could totally see Boxer attempting to demote him as a means of motivating/shaming him. But apparently it backfired...

I think we're going to see more of this. BW pros practiced under harsher and more concentrated circumstances than most SC2 players. That's not to say SC2 players don't practice, just that they aren't practicing as much as many BW teams do/did. Boxer is obviously from that old school mind set, and has witnessed players on his own former teams work very hard and ultimately reach great heights (iloveoov). I wouldn't be surprised if he is trying to get MMA to that level, but MMA is simply not as motivated.

Joining a foreigner team offers great opportunity while rewarding laziness in many ways; if MMA were to join a major foreigner team, it's very unlikely he would "have" to practice hard, and would instead be flown from tournament to tournament enjoying the thrill of fans and winning money. I fear that if we continue to see moves like this, the Korean scene might begin to protect itself by cooperating less and less with foreign teams/tournaments.


Yet none of us know. I don't think that can be over stated enough. Especially when ranting with such confidence. However I don't find your theory that unlikely.
"Right on" - Morrow
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
July 17 2012 05:11 GMT
#339
On July 17 2012 14:09 neoghaleon55 wrote:
WHAT THE F@%$?!

Is Slayers trying to destroy their team?!
MMA's like the ace player!
His games against DongRaeGu a few weeks ago in LA were pretty top notch!


MMA is a great player, but he's certainly not their ace.
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
NekoFlandre
Profile Joined March 2011
United States497 Posts
July 17 2012 05:12 GMT
#340
What in gods name did he do?
Kitty Flandre....even more scary..
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