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On July 17 2012 13:58 lisward wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 13:50 Flamingo777 wrote:On July 17 2012 12:12 IRL_Sinister wrote:
Bit dramatic from MMA to want to join a foreign team because of one disciplinary sanction. We don't get the full picture here so it's hard to tell what the problem is; ie with Slayers, the Manager or MMA himself. not really, if a working person was to get demoted and suffer a drastic decline in working conditions, it is completely fine to want to work for another company that might admire their proficiency more than their current company. That's just how I see it though. Also, he is only being demoted for 16 days, so I feel that what he did can't be as serious as what Coca did at least, because Coca was demoted for a very long time. Maybe he just doesn't feel the punishment is fair?
??? Did you read a bad translation, I think the number 16 refers to when his demotion came into effect. 16 would be such an arbitrary number
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The real question is . . . what would happen if Stephano were on slayers?
Is there even a word for that kind of potential drama?
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On July 17 2012 13:44 Praetorial wrote:
poor MMA...
When ur name is MMA it's not gona be hard to find a new team...a top tier foreign team and win a ton of money.
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On July 17 2012 14:00 mango_destroyer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 13:58 lisward wrote:On July 17 2012 13:50 Flamingo777 wrote:On July 17 2012 12:12 IRL_Sinister wrote:
Bit dramatic from MMA to want to join a foreign team because of one disciplinary sanction. We don't get the full picture here so it's hard to tell what the problem is; ie with Slayers, the Manager or MMA himself. not really, if a working person was to get demoted and suffer a drastic decline in working conditions, it is completely fine to want to work for another company that might admire their proficiency more than their current company. That's just how I see it though. Also, he is only being demoted for 16 days, so I feel that what he did can't be as serious as what Coca did at least, because Coca was demoted for a very long time. Maybe he just doesn't feel the punishment is fair? ??? Did you read a bad translation, I think the number 16 refers to when his demotion came into effect. 16 would be such an arbitrary number
yeah i saw the same translation, it's not 16 days, it started the 16th. ugh, I hope we get an official statement today.
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If MKP was in SlayerS he would be a B teamer after that tweet.
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I wonder what happens at SlayerS that has them losing players all the time.
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Motivation problems? Slayers decides to do this or maybe something that is similar to Coca? I doubt it. Until we know what really happened, we might understand the situation and the actions.
I'll patiently wait for more info, meanwhile good luck to MMA. Hope everything solves out.
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Really be interesting on how this plays out. Hopefully he didnt do anything too bad ><
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Good to see an official post!
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On July 17 2012 13:56 CajunMan wrote:
He probably got eve prego.
u know, I do think there might have been some kinda relationship with eve that is disturbing the team house
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On July 17 2012 14:02 Mutality wrote:
I wonder what happens at SlayerS that has them losing players all the time.
Consider this: You know how Jessica has a reputation of being somewhat crazy and super overaggressive? Consider the fact that this image is what she shows to the public. The wife of Boxer, one of the most famous people in Korea, and this is how she behaves in public, knowing very well how much people watch her every move. Now imagine what she is like behind closed doors. Its gotta be a downright nightmare. Obviously I have no inside information, but I cannot imagine that she is a positive influence on the Slayers atmosphere.
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I don't think the MMA news has anything to do with Jessica per se. Boxer considered MMA his protege and seemed very invested in him becoming a truly great player and leader. But like nearly every GSL winner, MMA's play deteriorated shortly after his big win. GSL winners get a large sum of money, and given how young most are, it's not surprising that they seemingly become relaxed after winning, and decide to start spending the money (sure they buy their parents stuff, but they also clearly spend it on themselves). And while most of the GSL winners rebound eventually, some sooner than others, MMA has pretty much fallen off the map.
We were talking in the NASL thread about his heavy micro/aggression style going out of style as Terran became more macro oriented, and I think that's part of the reason he has fallen off. Another reason is likely due to practice. If he isn't showing the proper determination in practice, I could totally see Boxer attempting to demote him as a means of motivating/shaming him. But apparently it backfired...
I think we're going to see more of this. BW pros practiced under harsher and more concentrated circumstances than most SC2 players. That's not to say SC2 players don't practice, just that they aren't practicing as much as many BW teams do/did. Boxer is obviously from that old school mind set, and has witnessed players on his own former teams work very hard and ultimately reach great heights (iloveoov). I wouldn't be surprised if he is trying to get MMA to that level, but MMA is simply not as motivated.
Joining a foreigner team offers great opportunity while rewarding laziness in many ways; if MMA were to join a major foreigner team, it's very unlikely he would "have" to practice hard, and would instead be flown from tournament to tournament enjoying the thrill of fans and winning money. I fear that if we continue to see moves like this, the Korean scene might begin to protect itself by cooperating less and less with foreign teams/tournaments.
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On July 17 2012 14:02 Popkiller wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 14:00 mango_destroyer wrote:On July 17 2012 13:58 lisward wrote:On July 17 2012 13:50 Flamingo777 wrote:On July 17 2012 12:12 IRL_Sinister wrote:
Bit dramatic from MMA to want to join a foreign team because of one disciplinary sanction. We don't get the full picture here so it's hard to tell what the problem is; ie with Slayers, the Manager or MMA himself. not really, if a working person was to get demoted and suffer a drastic decline in working conditions, it is completely fine to want to work for another company that might admire their proficiency more than their current company. That's just how I see it though. Also, he is only being demoted for 16 days, so I feel that what he did can't be as serious as what Coca did at least, because Coca was demoted for a very long time. Maybe he just doesn't feel the punishment is fair? ??? Did you read a bad translation, I think the number 16 refers to when his demotion came into effect. 16 would be such an arbitrary number yeah i saw the same translation, it's not 16 days, it started the 16th. ugh, I hope we get an official statement today.
God damn Internet people pretending to know korean
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WHAT THE F@%$?!
Is Slayers trying to destroy their team?!
MMA's like the ace player!
His games against DongRaeGu a few weeks ago in LA were pretty top notch!
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On July 17 2012 13:51 Kamwah wrote:
Ganzi supposedly forfeiting his match in Code A...
MMA being punished for something.
I have come to the conclusion that MMA killed Ganzi.
Hahahahaha that's pretty good actually.
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hopefully he will be able to join a foreign team, he is underpaid and undersupported on SlayerS
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This is shocking. Slayers' management needs to pause and assess how they have been hemorrhaging talent for the past few months.
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On July 17 2012 14:07 PhoenixDark wrote:
I don't think the MMA news has anything to do with Jessica per se. Boxer considered MMA his protege and seemed very invested in him becoming a truly great player and leader. But like nearly every GSL winner, MMA's play deteriorated shortly after his big win. GSL winners get a large sum of money, and given how young most are, it's not surprising that they seemingly become relaxed after winning, and decide to start spending the money (sure they buy their parents stuff, but they also clearly spend it on themselves). And while most of the GSL winners rebound eventually, some sooner than others, MMA has pretty much fallen off the map.
We were talking in the NASL thread about his heavy micro/aggression style going out of style as Terran became more macro oriented, and I think that's part of the reason he has fallen off. Another reason is likely due to practice. If he isn't showing the proper determination in practice, I could totally see Boxer attempting to demote him as a means of motivating/shaming him. But apparently it backfired...
I think we're going to see more of this. BW pros practiced under harsher and more concentrated circumstances than most SC2 players. That's not to say SC2 players don't practice, just that they aren't practicing as much as many BW teams do/did. Boxer is obviously from that old school mind set, and has witnessed players on his own former teams work very hard and ultimately reach great heights (iloveoov). I wouldn't be surprised if he is trying to get MMA to that level, but MMA is simply not as motivated.
Joining a foreigner team offers great opportunity while rewarding laziness in many ways; if MMA were to join a major foreigner team, it's very unlikely he would "have" to practice hard, and would instead be flown from tournament to tournament enjoying the thrill of fans and winning money. I fear that if we continue to see moves like this, the Korean scene might begin to protect itself by cooperating less and less with foreign teams/tournaments.
Yet none of us know. I don't think that can be over stated enough. Especially when ranting with such confidence. However I don't find your theory that unlikely.
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On July 17 2012 14:09 neoghaleon55 wrote:
WHAT THE F@%$?!
Is Slayers trying to destroy their team?!
MMA's like the ace player!
His games against DongRaeGu a few weeks ago in LA were pretty top notch!
MMA is a great player, but he's certainly not their ace.
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What in gods name did he do?
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