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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
After 6 months with CheckSix, Seong Han "Sleep" Kim and the team have parted ways. Though having solid performances at all live events he attended while representing CheckSix, both parties felt that Sleep was not a great fit for the team anymore. We hope he enjoyed his time on the team, but for now he will be back living as a free agent in South Korea. Here is a link to the rest of the announcement. http://t.co/zu2Amn6l | ||
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Jaxtyk
United States600 Posts
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Prophanity
United States165 Posts
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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GTR
51686 Posts
On July 14 2012 14:13 hunts wrote: Honestly I expected this, xsix doesn't seem like the type of team that a GSL quality player would stay on since they seem like more of a team for up and coming players, not already established ones. Best of luck to sleep, hope he finds a team he can settle down with. Sleep isn't a GSL quality player. | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Deleted User 173346
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
Am I thinking of someone else then? If so I apologize, but I swear I remember him being in code S about half a year ago? I believe when he was either on slayers or IM? I think he was on IM before slayers? | ||
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8mmspikes
United States1704 Posts
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BreakfastBurrito
United States893 Posts
On July 14 2012 14:35 hunts wrote: Am I thinking of someone else then? If so I apologize, but I swear I remember him being in code S about half a year ago? I believe when he was either on slayers or IM? I think he was on IM before slayers? He was on both slayers and IM at different times, but was never in GSL. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Sleep http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/2086 Notable things I saw was 3rd at lone star clash. He has ALMOST made it into Code A before. | ||
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NOOBALOPSE
Canada802 Posts
On July 14 2012 14:35 hunts wrote: Am I thinking of someone else then? If so I apologize, but I swear I remember him being in code S about half a year ago? I believe when he was either on slayers or IM? I think he was on IM before slayers? Yes, I think you are right. | ||
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GTR
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Fujikura
United States337 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37107 Posts
What?! Sleep was doing so well on that team too... | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On July 14 2012 14:45 GTR wrote: Golden probably, he was on fOu and then SlayerS. Now he's on LighT. However, from what I've been told, he's very active with his team, unlike what Sleep and x6 were. From what I've gathered, Sleep appears to be one of those mediocre Korean 'mercenaries' that try and find foreigner teams, expecting salary and to be flown around for tournaments, simply for the fact they are Korean and think they are better than all the foreigners out there. Ok I apologize, for some reason I thought sleep was in code S at some point, which is why it was so hard for me to see him staying with checksix long term, since I can't see them offering the same kind of salary as TL or EG or the other big foreign teams that can afford to keep code S players around. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On July 14 2012 14:50 SeeKeR wrote: Oo What?! Sleep was doing so well on that team too... My guesses are: a) Wants to go back to Korea. Could be for a variety of reasons, doesn't really like living in the US, misses home/family/friends/etc. With OSL popping up and Korean SC2 growing, there isn't as much appeal/need to be in the foreign market b) Being on a foreign team wasn't as great as he thought it'd be. I feel like Koreans go to a foreign event meet foreign team managers and get this delusion of grandeur where they think foreign teams have a ton of money to throw around, etc. | ||
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CitySings
Canada1 Post
On July 14 2012 14:45 GTR wrote: Golden probably, he was on fOu and then SlayerS. Now he's on LighT. However, from what I've been told, he's very active with his team, unlike what Sleep and x6 were. From what I've gathered, Sleep appears to be one of those mediocre Korean 'mercenaries' that try and find foreigner teams, expecting salary and to be flown around for tournaments, simply for the fact they are Korean and think they are better than all the foreigners out there. Although what you're conjecturing may be correct in regards to Sleep not participating or interacting much with his team, I think we shouldn't really make a judgment call about him only having dollar signs for eyes or believing in a superiority complex without having actually knowing Sleep and his actions towards x6, it's just these kind of assumptions that lead up to 90% of the witch hunts that go on in this community. To clear something up as well, apparently in a translated article/tweet, Xeris was mistaken about Sleep's demand for a high salary ($1500/month) and was possibly just misinformed about the situation. But again, unless a industry insider reveals the actual figures everything is just theorizing. (T/N : Sleep also expressed that what ex Fnatic manager Xeris said about Sleep demanding $1500/month is not true - I hope this helps the clear out some issues) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304430 - The Actual Article GL to Sleep trying to find a new team, I hope it works out. | ||
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Netsky
Australia1155 Posts
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tranmillitary
210 Posts
On July 14 2012 14:45 GTR wrote: Golden probably, he was on fOu and then SlayerS. Now he's on LighT. However, from what I've been told, he's very active with his team, unlike what Sleep and x6 were. From what I've gathered, Sleep appears to be one of those mediocre Korean 'mercenaries' that try and find foreigner teams, expecting salary and to be flown around for tournaments, simply for the fact they are Korean and think they are better than all the foreigners out there. you know what's funny... Sleep is actually better than 95 percent of foreign players LOL.. and he's a mediocre player by korean standards. | ||
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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
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Shin_Gouki
United States313 Posts
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hoivenmayven
United States134 Posts
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cmcnutt34
United States43 Posts
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8mmspikes
United States1704 Posts
On July 14 2012 15:37 KawaiiRice wrote: don't think he really cared about x6... he went ling bane or roach bane allin every single clan war we played vs him lol He practiced within the team one time...and just did 6 pools | ||
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HoriZoNXI
Australia310 Posts
On July 14 2012 15:56 8mmspikes wrote: He practiced within the team one time...and just did 6 pools Wow sounds he like a jerk :O Don't know what to think about this now... | ||
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TelecoM
United States10834 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On July 14 2012 15:37 KawaiiRice wrote: don't think he really cared about x6... he went ling bane or roach bane allin every single clan war we played vs him lol I don't see why any foreign team would want him after this. And not sure how many korean teams will be jumping to get him either (but that has more to do with him being mediocre by korean standards) | ||
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
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8mmspikes
United States1704 Posts
On July 14 2012 16:41 Glurkenspurk wrote: Does this mean there is room for a zerg in x6? Hmmm? Hmmm? I think they are pretty well off in the Zerg area with Suppy Mystik and Mkengyn  | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 14 2012 15:56 8mmspikes wrote: He practiced within the team one time...and just did 6 pools How do you know? :O. If true that sucks. If you join a team you should practice with the team xD | ||
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ridethecatbus
United States64 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On July 14 2012 16:48 blade55555 wrote: How do you know? :O. If true that sucks. If you join a team you should practice with the team xD spikes knows people. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
I really like watching Sleep's ZvP. | ||
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Catatonic
United States699 Posts
On July 14 2012 16:25 fusionsdf wrote: I don't see why any foreign team would want him after this. And not sure how many korean teams will be jumping to get him either (but that has more to do with him being mediocre by korean standards) A) Maybe the lower tier ones might have an issue but if any bigger names wanted to give a shot to him I doubt that they would have any issue with this guy. B) SlayerS still seemed to like him after they left due to tweets posted from when Dragon was picked up by Millennium so I'm more then sure Korean teams are fine with him as well. C) Maybe mediocre by Korean standards but still better then many currently getting chances on their teams lol. | ||
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Ksquared
United States1748 Posts
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Kotreb
Croatia1392 Posts
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On July 14 2012 17:42 Catatonic wrote: A) Maybe the lower tier ones might have an issue but if any bigger names wanted to give a shot to him I doubt that they would have any issue with this guy. B) SlayerS still seemed to like him after they left due to tweets posted from when Dragon was picked up by Millennium so I'm more then sure Korean teams are fine with him as well. C) Maybe mediocre by Korean standards but still better then many currently getting chances on their teams lol. Yeah in terms of pure skill he's definitely on the level of the best foreigners like Grubby, Ret, Socke, Sheth. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On July 14 2012 17:47 Ksquared wrote: Doesn't Sleep live in the US? Or am I just completely wrong and stupid? I believe he moved when he signed with x6. At least that was the impression I got from his introduction video. On July 14 2012 15:04 hunts wrote: Ok I apologize, for some reason I thought sleep was in code S at some point, which is why it was so hard for me to see him staying with checksix long term, since I can't see them offering the same kind of salary as TL or EG or the other big foreign teams that can afford to keep code S players around. Technically Sleep did play in an Open Season against Maka (I just remember all the dumb puns about alarm clocks and all). I could have sworn he played some GSTL games too, but I can't find any of him so I guess I just remember seeing his face in the roster line-ups (which at least means he was an A-teamer, since Slayers has a B-team, not sure if IM does or not though). | ||
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RageBot
Israel1530 Posts
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GeorgeyBeats
United Kingdom338 Posts
On July 14 2012 14:15 LuckyFool wrote: Sleep needs to work on being a better team player imo. gl to him in the future This. I think he may have overvalued himself when his contract was running out and he may have priced himself out of a solid team that is x6. Although he is a good player, he does have the draw that other players have on the bigger foreign teams. Perhaps heading back to korea? | ||
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rbkl
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hellokittySC2
United States395 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On July 14 2012 17:42 Catatonic wrote: A) Maybe the lower tier ones might have an issue but if any bigger names wanted to give a shot to him I doubt that they would have any issue with this guy. Yeah but the lower tier ones will be more desperate to get a player as good as him, I'm not sure a top foreign team would want him now. | ||
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solidONE
United States160 Posts
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huehuehuehue
Estonia455 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On July 14 2012 17:47 Ksquared wrote: Doesn't Sleep live in the US? Or am I just completely wrong and stupid? Well according to this he is moving back to Korea. | ||
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
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VPreboot
United States132 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32755 Posts
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
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KoDo
United States683 Posts
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
On July 14 2012 22:48 Superiorwolf wrote: I think it's funny people say xSix is overall far below Sleep's caliber when they always forget that he got 3-2'd by Mystik at a SoCal LAN for $1000. I placed the same as him at MLG, playing WAY more players than he did. It's only a little infuriating when you downplay the rest of the team just because the star player is gone. No offense but one MLG open bracket where the quality of players vary so much doesn`t help prove your point when it comes to placing. If xSix is as close in terms of skill as you say we should see the results of that in major LANs. Finding isolated incidences where he doesn`t do well mean anything as you can do that with many top players. Rather than getting all angry people don`t recognize the other players of the team give them a real reason to. | ||
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[N3O]r3d33m3r
Germany674 Posts
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KoDo
United States683 Posts
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
On July 14 2012 23:12 mango_destroyer wrote: No offense but one MLG open bracket where the quality of players vary so much doesn`t help prove your point when it comes to placing. If xSix is as close in terms of skill as you say we should see the results of that in major LANs. Finding isolated incidences where he doesn`t do well mean anything as you can do that with many top players. Rather than getting all angry people don`t recognize the other players of the team give them a real reason to. I agree with you that the rest of CheckSix should start giving people a reason to recognize us. However, if MLG is not considered a major LAN, I don't know what is. Most of the players on CheckSix are full-time students and the only LAN they are able to attend is the occasional MLG or local LAN, whereas Sleep was able to attend a ton of events. A lot of CheckSix players did very well at the recent MLG and I'm saying that it's unfair to immediately say "everyone else on xSix is FAR below Sleep's caliber." Just my 2 cents. | ||
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chadissilent
Canada1187 Posts
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FuzzyHat
United States79 Posts
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
As for Sleep, he's probably already got another offer that is either waiting for him or in the process of being emailed to him. Sleep is a good Korean player, and good Korean players get picked up (usually). | ||
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Wintex
Norway16849 Posts
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Oiseaux
United States676 Posts
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ibo422
Belgium2844 Posts
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dragoon
United States695 Posts
regardless, good luck to both parties | ||
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the p00n
Netherlands615 Posts
Don't forget to keep us posted about Seong Han Kim and his endeavors in finding teams and/or clans. | ||
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VTPerfect
United States487 Posts
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viOLetFanClub
Korea (South)390 Posts
Why the salt? | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
He isn't, it's just a statement of fact. | ||
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
On July 15 2012 08:17 johnnywup wrote: unfortunately saw this coming with him not participating for x6 in team leagues (specifically ESEA grand finals) and him deleting his twitter.. His Twitter is still there? Seong han Kim @92Sleep I did left Checksix Gaming. 7:02 PM - 14 Jul 12 via web | ||
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SolarJto
United States260 Posts
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MrMercuG
Netherlands2389 Posts
On July 15 2012 06:37 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: Well that's going to hurt Check-Six a bit. Not going to tear them down, of course, but it does sting. As for Sleep, he's probably already got another offer that is either waiting for him or in the process of being emailed to him. Sleep is a good Korean player, and good Korean players get picked up (usually). InCa, TOP, Genius etc. still teamless | ||
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