EPTOn June 07 2012 06:53 daemir wrote:
Strange, here I thought it was his career on the line. You'd think if he could sort if out by just opening up his stream while he is practicing for Anaheim (just don't show fancy tacs in those games?) to clear his name, it's not much to ask, is it?
Unless ofc...
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On June 07 2012 06:49 snam wrote:
Yeah, no. Thats the wrong way to go about this. There must be some other way to prove him guilty/not guilty. The burden of proof is on the accuser and in this case YOU would have to prove that he CANT do that.
On June 07 2012 06:44 SolHeiM wrote:
How about you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you did not hack? You can't do that, can you? Start your stream and show us how you can play say, 20 games in a row without ever looking in fog of war, and using your minimap to perform almost every single action. Please do that. Until you do that, I will take CatZ's word as conclusive evidence that you are a hacker.
Because habits are almost impossible to just turn off day to day. Prove to us you can do that, and then I will start to believe you.
On June 07 2012 06:41 Spades wrote:
I spent 2 days going b ack and forth with people. I have Anaheim in 2 days. I dont have time to sit around this thread and defend myself all day. I've said what I can, I gave replays, I encourage people doing all this technical research. I left my team so they would avoid backlash from this situation such as emailing sponsors etc. What else do you want from me. No matter what I say, people deny and question it. I'm tired, I just want to practice for Anaheim and perform well, that's all I want to focus on for the next week.
On June 07 2012 06:38 Shiori wrote:
It would help immensely if you were active in the investigation and actually tried to be honest with us rather than just sitting around until it's painstakingly figured out. And this is coming from someone who has defended you at more than one point in this thread.
On June 07 2012 06:36 Spades wrote:
Theres maybe 10 people objectively finding if I am guilty or innocent, I am not naive enough to think most of this is objective. I appreciate the objective people, and I hope they find results, one way or the other.
On June 07 2012 06:35 Reptilia wrote:
We are clearly trying to find objectively whether you are guilty or innocent.*
On June 07 2012 06:34 Spades wrote:
We are clearly joking around here
On June 07 2012 06:31 Antylamon wrote:
Oh, wow, I just found out you are Brian Francis.
I thought you got someone else to write the program for a sec there
Also, your reaction to the entire thing is soooo suspicious. I would've raged at everyone in sight if this happened to me, but you've only done that to a couple people. Can you address that? I don't want to call you out with certainty until I can be 110% sure.
On June 07 2012 06:19 Spades wrote:
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how so? we are laughing at how stupid this whole situation is, and all the "evidence" gets debunked shortly after. I'm in a chat with 20 people, including pro gamers. IF YOU CANT TELL, WE ARE ROLLING OUR EYES AND JOKING ABOUT THIS. I AM NOT A HACKER CAPABLE OF HACKING THE PENTAGON OR CREATING UNSTOPPABLE HACKS, I AM NOT A COMPUTER PROGRAMMER
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how so? we are laughing at how stupid this whole situation is, and all the "evidence" gets debunked shortly after. I'm in a chat with 20 people, including pro gamers. IF YOU CANT TELL, WE ARE ROLLING OUR EYES AND JOKING ABOUT THIS. I AM NOT A HACKER CAPABLE OF HACKING THE PENTAGON OR CREATING UNSTOPPABLE HACKS, I AM NOT A COMPUTER PROGRAMMER
Oh, wow, I just found out you are Brian Francis.
I thought you got someone else to write the program for a sec there
Also, your reaction to the entire thing is soooo suspicious. I would've raged at everyone in sight if this happened to me, but you've only done that to a couple people. Can you address that? I don't want to call you out with certainty until I can be 110% sure.
We are clearly joking around here
We are clearly trying to find objectively whether you are guilty or innocent.*
Theres maybe 10 people objectively finding if I am guilty or innocent, I am not naive enough to think most of this is objective. I appreciate the objective people, and I hope they find results, one way or the other.
It would help immensely if you were active in the investigation and actually tried to be honest with us rather than just sitting around until it's painstakingly figured out. And this is coming from someone who has defended you at more than one point in this thread.
I spent 2 days going b ack and forth with people. I have Anaheim in 2 days. I dont have time to sit around this thread and defend myself all day. I've said what I can, I gave replays, I encourage people doing all this technical research. I left my team so they would avoid backlash from this situation such as emailing sponsors etc. What else do you want from me. No matter what I say, people deny and question it. I'm tired, I just want to practice for Anaheim and perform well, that's all I want to focus on for the next week.
How about you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you did not hack? You can't do that, can you? Start your stream and show us how you can play say, 20 games in a row without ever looking in fog of war, and using your minimap to perform almost every single action. Please do that. Until you do that, I will take CatZ's word as conclusive evidence that you are a hacker.
Because habits are almost impossible to just turn off day to day. Prove to us you can do that, and then I will start to believe you.
Yeah, no. Thats the wrong way to go about this. There must be some other way to prove him guilty/not guilty. The burden of proof is on the accuser and in this case YOU would have to prove that he CANT do that.
Strange, here I thought it was his career on the line. You'd think if he could sort if out by just opening up his stream while he is practicing for Anaheim (just don't show fancy tacs in those games?) to clear his name, it's not much to ask, is it?
Unless ofc...
Spades said he was being kept up to date by some people via PM.
Someone please PM him and tell him to do this.
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