EPT[?] Spades hacking? - Page 23
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07:06 KST - method linked here has been disproved here 10:54 KST - Find a full timeline of pro comments (including Spades) in the topic here. 08:47 KST - Summary: Accusations of maphacking have the potential to destroy a player's career if left unaddressed. Because of the potential consequences, we should be careful about accepting unproven accusations. The principle of 'innocent until proven guilty' should be applied here. That does not mean that there has been a conclusion about this case, however, which is why this thread remains tentatively open. Please discuss with caution and use evidence to back up your claims. (also a summary post by an unnamed pro on reddit here) | ||
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Crowned
United States368 Posts
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JackDT
724 Posts
It's not exactly practical but players could in theory play with a webcam pointed at their monitor. Just recording so they have evidence from the game. For a big online tournament with a big prize it might be smart. | ||
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NeWeNiyaLord
Norway2474 Posts
On June 05 2012 07:14 -UMADIMSTYLIN- wrote: Everytime I would play Spades on ladder he always freaking knew where my army was and knew exactly where to counter. NEVER scanned anything, this makes a lot fo sense Dude, replay or gtfo | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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mYiKane
Canada1772 Posts
 however, nerchio has sure gained my respect and i am definitely a fan of him now. he's so level headed and doesn't jump to conclusions, love it! | ||
TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On June 05 2012 07:14 -UMADIMSTYLIN- wrote: Everytime I would play Spades on ladder he always freaking knew where my army was and knew exactly where to counter. NEVER scanned anything, this makes a lot fo sense Please prove that you have played him. | ||
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Shana
Indonesia1814 Posts
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b0rt_
Norway931 Posts
On April 21 2008 00:46 Liquid`NonY wrote: Getting caught hacking once deserves a life ban from all competitive events. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=69911¤tpage=5 | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On June 05 2012 07:15 LgNKane wrote: Well I'm sure spades has lost a few fans unfortunately even if its not true however, nerchio has sure gained my respect and i am definitely a fan of him now. he's so level headed and doesn't jump to conclusions, love it! You werent a fan of Nerchio already?????? Hes the best. | ||
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MrCash
United States1504 Posts
Well I just searched the entire thread and didn't see a single actual response about his actions. Only a post to Illusion with the intention of one. If you find a post explaining any of it, please link. | ||
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Gardel
Mexico220 Posts
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Slikk
Norway81 Posts
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On June 05 2012 07:10 Snowbear wrote: If I was in your position, I would go to my replay map, put all my replays in a rar file, and upload it immediately. Yer that's what every pro person wants to do, especially those maybe not to successful, make all your builds availeble to your opponents. Having had nothing to do, I skimmed over the other 3 replays and I see nothing really unusual about them. Kind of feel it's shameful that there's so little evidence needed to uproar everyone... | ||
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zezamer
Finland5701 Posts
On June 05 2012 07:14 JackDT wrote: It's not exactly practical but players could in theory play with a webcam pointed at their monitor. Just recording so they have evidence from the game. For a big online tournament with a big prize it might be smart. Why wouldn't you just stream on private stream to be recorded ? or record fpvod in some other way | ||
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Artok
Netherlands2219 Posts
On June 05 2012 07:14 -UMADIMSTYLIN- wrote: Everytime I would play Spades on ladder he always freaking knew where my army was and knew exactly where to counter. NEVER scanned anything, this makes a lot fo sense now thats some serious proof, coming from a guy with such an intelligent name, I bet you're 100% right! What about you share those replays and let's all see how hard he hacks. | ||
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rANDY
United Kingdom748 Posts
edit: It has come to my attention that some info in this is incorrect, as you need to double click, so this is no longer proof but more circumstantial evidence, as the double click is possible, but, in my opinion, highly unlikely to have movement in it. Hello, I decided to watch these games with the intention of finding one non-circumstantial piece of evidence to show if map hacks were being used in order to try and bring some certainty to this situation, as no matter how much circumstantial evidence there is, one cannot use it to convict someone comfortably. I believe I have found some non-circumstantial proof when watching the first replay. To see this in the replay most clearly, slow the speed right down. When a terran places a scan using the minimap it will take his camera instantly to that position with the scan circle centred on the screen. At 6:23 of game 1 on Antigua Shipyard, when Spades scans Lucifron's base his camera jumps to where the scan is, but the scan is off-center but to the top part of the screen. The only way this is possible is if he was already looking at this area and placed the scan manually not using the mini map and did not click the center of the screen. The only way this was possible is if the screen was locked on his base while he was looking at the fog. You can see in the replay that the screen moved instantly when he scanned to the off center position from his main. For completeness, at 13:16 in the same game is an example of Lucifron scanning the center of the map using the mini-map. His screen jumps straight to the scan and the scan is exactly central to the screen (where he clicked on the mini-map). I believe this shows conculsive proof that Spades' screen was locked while viewing Lucifron's base and was therefore using a maphack. | ||
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jaebigdong
87 Posts
once a hacker, always a hacker? | ||
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Xadar
497 Posts
On June 05 2012 07:15 Shana wrote: Is this is the same spades in BW? Yes, he already hacked in BW. | ||
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Synche
United States1345 Posts
On June 05 2012 07:16 Gardel wrote: Please, TeamLiquid close this thread, it will only generate more hate, there is nothing more to discuss here, Spades situation should be handled privately. He's been accused, he's responded. There's nothing more to this thread except irrational people. I think it's time to lock it, let it here for people to read and make their own conclusions. | ||
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14fighter
United States226 Posts
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