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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
CDMVR
Profile Joined August 2011
United States92 Posts
July 10 2012 08:58 GMT
#1781
you guys do realize theres people out there still defending Spades to death.

Theres always going to be people defending their friends/fans so I suggest an expert or a group of experts/progamers take a look at this
Warwick Only [Dia IV KR, Dia I NA]
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
July 10 2012 09:03 GMT
#1782
On July 10 2012 17:57 shinyA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 17:54 EtherealDeath wrote:
On July 10 2012 17:46 Paradise` wrote:
LOL that loop around was super spider sense! :D

edit; why is zooharz having his friends come back him up lol "todeskampf"

Actually it's called not fucking a guy's reputation over before all the evidence is in. Normally the way this would be done when there may be alternative reasons (i.e. not something so obvious as blink hack or always proxy 2 gating right spot) is by PMing the shit to the guy who is doing this thread, or otherwise creating yourself a large multi-replay sample size with analysis. However, now that shit's been posted anyways one replay at a time, we should not be rushing to judgment, even though I admit this looparound is hard to explain - but keep in mind we are watching a short segment of an 11 minute game that is somehow at around 20 supply for each player... at that point in the game. So this is an abnormal game already to begin with.

ZoohairZ reputation? He's only known for flaming the shit out of people that beat him...and now hacking rotfl

Well, BM is different from hacking. I mean granted quite a bit of this shit is really fucked up looking.
shinyA
Profile Joined November 2008
United States473 Posts
July 10 2012 09:07 GMT
#1783
On July 10 2012 18:03 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 17:57 shinyA wrote:
On July 10 2012 17:54 EtherealDeath wrote:
On July 10 2012 17:46 Paradise` wrote:
LOL that loop around was super spider sense! :D

edit; why is zooharz having his friends come back him up lol "todeskampf"

Actually it's called not fucking a guy's reputation over before all the evidence is in. Normally the way this would be done when there may be alternative reasons (i.e. not something so obvious as blink hack or always proxy 2 gating right spot) is by PMing the shit to the guy who is doing this thread, or otherwise creating yourself a large multi-replay sample size with analysis. However, now that shit's been posted anyways one replay at a time, we should not be rushing to judgment, even though I admit this looparound is hard to explain - but keep in mind we are watching a short segment of an 11 minute game that is somehow at around 20 supply for each player... at that point in the game. So this is an abnormal game already to begin with.

ZoohairZ reputation? He's only known for flaming the shit out of people that beat him...and now hacking rotfl

Well, BM is different from hacking. I mean granted quite a bit of this shit is really fucked up looking.

I think it's funny though that look at the way he has responded, he immediately goes and loads up his stream and claims to "stream and play in a ton of LANs" but his last stream vod is like a year old...lol
twitch.tv/ggshinya
zoohairZ
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 09:12:36
July 10 2012 09:10 GMT
#1784
On July 10 2012 18:07 shinyA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 18:03 EtherealDeath wrote:
On July 10 2012 17:57 shinyA wrote:
On July 10 2012 17:54 EtherealDeath wrote:
On July 10 2012 17:46 Paradise` wrote:
LOL that loop around was super spider sense! :D

edit; why is zooharz having his friends come back him up lol "todeskampf"

Actually it's called not fucking a guy's reputation over before all the evidence is in. Normally the way this would be done when there may be alternative reasons (i.e. not something so obvious as blink hack or always proxy 2 gating right spot) is by PMing the shit to the guy who is doing this thread, or otherwise creating yourself a large multi-replay sample size with analysis. However, now that shit's been posted anyways one replay at a time, we should not be rushing to judgment, even though I admit this looparound is hard to explain - but keep in mind we are watching a short segment of an 11 minute game that is somehow at around 20 supply for each player... at that point in the game. So this is an abnormal game already to begin with.

ZoohairZ reputation? He's only known for flaming the shit out of people that beat him...and now hacking rotfl

Well, BM is different from hacking. I mean granted quite a bit of this shit is really fucked up looking.

I think it's funny though that look at the way he has responded, he immediately goes and loads up his stream and claims to "stream and play in a ton of LANs" but his last stream vod is like a year old...lol



I played a lot of d3 since release until recently, just started playing alot of sc2 again this season. What do you want me to say/do? Somebody asked me to stream my ladder so i did. everything i say and/or do will be put into question now. Its alright. dont blame you guys.

EDIT: There's a TON of people who hate me, way more people hate me than like/support me. There's going to be a lot of ppl trying to bring me down/shun me now. So im just gonna continue playing and streaming games probably.
Narw
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland884 Posts
July 10 2012 09:15 GMT
#1785
Yeah, pull the hate card when i bet 90% of people have no idea who you even are. That overlord stuff, it can't be explained, there is no magic spider sense like that, its called hack.
shinyA
Profile Joined November 2008
United States473 Posts
July 10 2012 09:15 GMT
#1786
On July 10 2012 18:10 zoohairZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 18:07 shinyA wrote:
On July 10 2012 18:03 EtherealDeath wrote:
On July 10 2012 17:57 shinyA wrote:
On July 10 2012 17:54 EtherealDeath wrote:
On July 10 2012 17:46 Paradise` wrote:
LOL that loop around was super spider sense! :D

edit; why is zooharz having his friends come back him up lol "todeskampf"

Actually it's called not fucking a guy's reputation over before all the evidence is in. Normally the way this would be done when there may be alternative reasons (i.e. not something so obvious as blink hack or always proxy 2 gating right spot) is by PMing the shit to the guy who is doing this thread, or otherwise creating yourself a large multi-replay sample size with analysis. However, now that shit's been posted anyways one replay at a time, we should not be rushing to judgment, even though I admit this looparound is hard to explain - but keep in mind we are watching a short segment of an 11 minute game that is somehow at around 20 supply for each player... at that point in the game. So this is an abnormal game already to begin with.

ZoohairZ reputation? He's only known for flaming the shit out of people that beat him...and now hacking rotfl

Well, BM is different from hacking. I mean granted quite a bit of this shit is really fucked up looking.

I think it's funny though that look at the way he has responded, he immediately goes and loads up his stream and claims to "stream and play in a ton of LANs" but his last stream vod is like a year old...lol



I played a lot of d3 since release until recently, just started playing alot of sc2 again this season. What do you want me to say/do? Somebody asked me to stream my ladder so i did. everything i say and/or do will be put into question now. Its alright. dont blame you guys.

EDIT: There's a TON of people who hate me, way more people hate me than like/support me. There's going to be a lot of ppl trying to bring me down/shun me now. So im just gonna continue playing and streaming games probably.

How you explain the overseer?

and no one asked you to stream, you just said since you're getting all the attention that you would stream...OMG LIAR I CAUGHT U!!!

lol, tbh I don't really care <3 <3 <3

I think you hack/have hacked 100%, but if you just stream every game from now on then it won't matter..it's not like blizzard will ban you and if they do you just buy a new account...
<3sc2
twitch.tv/ggshinya
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 09:30:18
July 10 2012 09:22 GMT
#1787
--- Nuked ---
binski
Profile Joined December 2010
United States225 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 09:34:08
July 10 2012 09:33 GMT
#1788
LOLOLOL "eating dinner".
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 09:51:56
July 10 2012 09:51 GMT
#1789
edit - wrong thread LOL meant to be in GSL
hashaki
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway210 Posts
July 10 2012 09:58 GMT
#1790
Dat overseer looparound (which sadly isn't enough proof).

Is zoohairZ willing to upload a bunch of replays from around the same time the replays the accusations are from? If he's not hacking as he claims, surely this would be the best way to go about proving his innocence.
Life is like animal porn... It's not for everyone
CDMVR
Profile Joined August 2011
United States92 Posts
July 10 2012 10:29 GMT
#1791
200 apm while eating dinner and flying an overseer in circles to avoid a void ray.

Classic.
Warwick Only [Dia IV KR, Dia I NA]
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 11:52:06
July 10 2012 11:49 GMT
#1792
On July 10 2012 17:58 Itallion wrote:
you guys do realize theres people out there still defending Spades to death.

Theres always going to be people defending their friends/fans so I suggest an expert or a group of experts/progamers take a look at this


I don't even know this guy, I've never heard of him before this thread.
All I see is some guy posting a replay that has a single moment where for a second you go "hmm..."
Instead of pming this to someone who knows about this he posts it in a public thread for all to see and gossip about.

All of a sudden the talk is about how the guy is bm as fuck and now he's "known for hacking"

To use an extreme example: What if you're arrested for pedophilia and are cleared of all charges. Do you think that doesn't follow you around?

Who the fuck are you guys to claim "100% hack"
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
CDMVR
Profile Joined August 2011
United States92 Posts
July 10 2012 11:51 GMT
#1793
if you play high masters ladder at all, you'd know that zoohairz is known for being BM as fuck ever since he jumped up in the rankings.

It's not "All of a sudden"
Warwick Only [Dia IV KR, Dia I NA]
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 10 2012 11:53 GMT
#1794
On July 10 2012 20:51 Itallion wrote:
if you play high masters ladder at all, you'd know that zoohairz is known for being BM as fuck ever since he jumped up in the rankings.

It's not "All of a sudden"


Do you not get my point? This is a thread about confirmed hackers. People just like to hate, so nothing constructive is said.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8128 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 12:58:45
July 10 2012 12:57 GMT
#1795
With the amount of cheaters popping up lately, someone actually good in the industry should make a weekly show trying to find out whetever someone is cheating or not, and what cheats their using. This will not only help find the black sheep, but more importantly help clearing the names of those who aren't cheating but still get their reputation sullen by random doorknobs in this thread who screams "maphack" because their opponent got lucky.
-Cyrus-
Profile Joined June 2011
United States318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 13:32:31
July 10 2012 13:30 GMT
#1796
On July 10 2012 18:10 zoohairZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 18:07 shinyA wrote:
On July 10 2012 18:03 EtherealDeath wrote:
On July 10 2012 17:57 shinyA wrote:
On July 10 2012 17:54 EtherealDeath wrote:
On July 10 2012 17:46 Paradise` wrote:
LOL that loop around was super spider sense! :D

edit; why is zooharz having his friends come back him up lol "todeskampf"

Actually it's called not fucking a guy's reputation over before all the evidence is in. Normally the way this would be done when there may be alternative reasons (i.e. not something so obvious as blink hack or always proxy 2 gating right spot) is by PMing the shit to the guy who is doing this thread, or otherwise creating yourself a large multi-replay sample size with analysis. However, now that shit's been posted anyways one replay at a time, we should not be rushing to judgment, even though I admit this looparound is hard to explain - but keep in mind we are watching a short segment of an 11 minute game that is somehow at around 20 supply for each player... at that point in the game. So this is an abnormal game already to begin with.

ZoohairZ reputation? He's only known for flaming the shit out of people that beat him...and now hacking rotfl

Well, BM is different from hacking. I mean granted quite a bit of this shit is really fucked up looking.

I think it's funny though that look at the way he has responded, he immediately goes and loads up his stream and claims to "stream and play in a ton of LANs" but his last stream vod is like a year old...lol



I played a lot of d3 since release until recently, just started playing alot of sc2 again this season. What do you want me to say/do? Somebody asked me to stream my ladder so i did. everything i say and/or do will be put into question now. Its alright. dont blame you guys.

EDIT: There's a TON of people who hate me, way more people hate me than like/support me. There's going to be a lot of ppl trying to bring me down/shun me now. So im just gonna continue playing and streaming games probably.


That overseer shit is blatant hacking and proof that you do so. Stop lying to everyone, you are insulting not only the community but yourself as well. You should be fucking ashamed of yourself and the community has every right to oust you for cheating. Cheaters deserve no respect, especially in game like this. Get out, seriously. SC2 is no place for cheating scum like yourself.

I'm glad the community is hunting down hacking scumbags now. This is a good thing.
hashaki
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway210 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 14:10:22
July 10 2012 14:09 GMT
#1797
On July 10 2012 20:49 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 17:58 Itallion wrote:
you guys do realize theres people out there still defending Spades to death.

Theres always going to be people defending their friends/fans so I suggest an expert or a group of experts/progamers take a look at this


I don't even know this guy, I've never heard of him before this thread.
All I see is some guy posting a replay that has a single moment where for a second you go "hmm..."
Instead of pming this to someone who knows about this he posts it in a public thread for all to see and gossip about.

All of a sudden the talk is about how the guy is bm as fuck and now he's "known for hacking"

To use an extreme example: What if you're arrested for pedophilia and are cleared of all charges. Do you think that doesn't follow you around?

Who the fuck are you guys to claim "100% hack"


Well, what has been presented in this thread isn't enough to say 100% for sure, but it is enough to warrant suspicion. Which is why I suggest he posts a bunch of replays from the same time-period the overseer-replay is taken from so we can all have a look and find out. If he is innocent as he say he is, he'll post them no questions asked.

If he never comes back and posts them, we all know the verdict in this case.
Life is like animal porn... It's not for everyone
sWs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States409 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 17:32:23
July 10 2012 17:28 GMT
#1798
I cant believe TL is letting this thread stay open..

So if someone finds a replay of me, moving a probe out of the way of a marine/zergling and then dropping a proxy pylong will i too be condemned as a hacker?

You guys are beyond immature, and this is flat out ridiculous. Personal quandaries aside, you have one fucking replay. You have no proof, your dislike for ZoohairZ has turned barely anything into a witchhunt and it sickens me that this is all based off something that could possibly of been a complete fluke/accident.

In the thousands of games you, him, or I have played, do you not think something like this is bound to happen?

Innocent until proven guilty in my mind, have some respect for your fellow player.

/E -- And to Shinya's credibility I have heard him accuse about 10 people now with little to no proof of hacking, because he loses against them. People like LgNKane, and even other good players. Flat out sad.

it is pretty depressing to see people grab their pitchforks over one replay.. so willing to basically exile someone from the community, so beyond depressing. It won't be all fun in games, when you're wrongfully in the cross hairs. Keep that in mind. @ everyone acting like a jackass here.
@swsc2
shinyA
Profile Joined November 2008
United States473 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 18:52:22
July 10 2012 18:43 GMT
#1799
On July 11 2012 02:28 TOdesKaMpF wrote:
I cant believe TL is letting this thread stay open..

So if someone finds a replay of me, moving a probe out of the way of a marine/zergling and then dropping a proxy pylong will i too be condemned as a hacker?

You guys are beyond immature, and this is flat out ridiculous. Personal quandaries aside, you have one fucking replay. You have no proof, your dislike for ZoohairZ has turned barely anything into a witchhunt and it sickens me that this is all based off something that could possibly of been a complete fluke/accident.

In the thousands of games you, him, or I have played, do you not think something like this is bound to happen?

Innocent until proven guilty in my mind, have some respect for your fellow player.

/E -- And to Shinya's credibility I have heard him accuse about 10 people now with little to no proof of hacking, because he loses against them. People like LgNKane, and even other good players. Flat out sad.

it is pretty depressing to see people grab their pitchforks over one replay.. so willing to basically exile someone from the community, so beyond depressing. It won't be all fun in games, when you're wrongfully in the cross hairs. Keep that in mind. @ everyone acting like a jackass here.

So because I think a few players hack means that they don't? I post clear evidence of hacking, if you see that and think it's a coincidence you're clearly biased.

I lose plenty of games, I have like 70 losses this season. Just becasue I think 3 or 4 people on the ladder hack is irrelevant and I didn't post anything about them, this is about zoohairz, this is about the proof presented against him. Not just the overseer stuff but the first replay as well brought up a ton of suspicion. It's obvious you're bias, you should probably stay away from a thread where you are contributing nothing to it.

Also, I didn't even think zoohairz hacked before this. I thought he was a flaming coinflipper, sure, but I never seriously accused him of hacking. The replay that was posted in this thread looked really, really suspicious so I decided to look at the replays I had against him. "Shockingly" I found something that should be classified as 99% proof of hacking and posted it. Defend him all you want, maybe you want to defend impa too?

http://www.twitch.tv/s2shinya/b/324345396
^ For anyone who missed the video of zoohairz hacking~

Edit - as for the "thousands of games" thing, I have like 4 replays against him. 2 are me losing to nydus and the other 2 are me winning flat out with cannons at his nat. What are the odds out of those games something like that overseer happens?

And you want to talk about MY BIAS? Read your post you fkn hypocrite lol , it's literally dismissing any suspicion based on the fact that you're zoohairz friend.
twitch.tv/ggshinya
Schickysc
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada380 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 18:57:00
July 10 2012 18:45 GMT
#1800
On July 11 2012 02:28 TOdesKaMpF wrote:
I cant believe TL is letting this thread stay open..

So if someone finds a replay of me, moving a probe out of the way of a marine/zergling and then dropping a proxy pylong will i too be condemned as a hacker?



Chill out. Nobody will listen to someone call hacks if that was the only evidence. Watch the replay and note the points I made. It is suspicious. 100%? Hell no, but worth looking into other replays of his.

Just saw the overseer thing for the first time. My OPINION is now 100% that he hacks.
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