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On January 05 2015 10:41 duckk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 01:46 GGzerG wrote:On January 04 2015 17:08 duckk wrote:On January 04 2015 13:58 RPR_Tempest wrote:On January 03 2015 13:07 FabledIntegral wrote:On January 03 2015 05:03 RPR_Tempest wrote:[LYGs] GhostKing, Master Terran on NA. http://drop.sc/391159Fairly blatant stuff, doesn't scout (apart from once as a side effect from a mine drop). I put down a roach warren and he instantly puts a tech lab on his rax and moves it to factory to rush out a tank. The good old standard, cc first into rax-factory-tech lab build. Also, he sees my lair later and you can probably assume that its mutas, but not 100%. He puts down some turrets at a standardish time, which is fine. What isn't fine is how many he puts down (2 in one spot, 3 in another single spot) without even confirming if mutas are in fact coming or not. Tank after CC first is also not insanely uncommon if you scout gas from a Zerg (assuming, did not see rep, just going based on what you stated). As I said, he didn't scout anything at all (even my position) until he mine dropped later in the game. I have talked with a few people and gone over replays (not yours because I dont care about that)He is 100% legit. What a very mature and kind way to express why you didn't go over his replay as well. It is better than publicly accusing some1 who is legit of hacking? Have 50 random people send you a replay of some1 who is "hacking" and the majority of them will be a joke.
Oh ok and that justifies you being rude for no reason lol, inferiority complex much? Or do you just feel that you are good enough to talk to people in a demeaning way? Hey can I see one of your replays where you accuse someone of hacking duckk? Oh wait I don't feel like watching your Joke replays , sorry thx.
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is there a reason why the hackers aren´t updated to the front page anymore?
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On January 08 2015 00:37 hypnotoad.410 wrote:
is there a reason why the hackers aren´t updated to the front page anymore?
Nunez doesn't seem to be that active anymore. Last update was more than a year ago
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On January 01 2015 04:54 playa wrote:Name: vileSynC Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2448187/1/vileSynC/Server: NA League GM Replay: http://ggtracker.com/matches/5700344I don't know what I'm supposed to do. So, everyone knows this guy hacks. Yet, he has over 6.5K games played: reporting is obviously futile. I personally find this game troubling/sad, though, because he is playing in a way more legit way than a lot of hacking pros/semi pros are. 1, he scouted me with a probe. 2, not only did he use hallucinations but he looked at them :o I'm still in shock that there was a probe in my base, yet it wasn't for making cannons. I don't want the guy banned because I find it cute that despite everyone in GM knowing he hacks, he at least "made an effort." And, after 6.5k games, have to give him some credit... That said, if we're going to allow players to hack for years on end, when anyone above gold league knows what they're doing, can we please try to find a way to have them benefit the scene? IMO, this guy and people like him, who are relatively harmless (don't play in tournaments) should have to submit their replays to either Blizzard or some group of people that are tasked with looking over replays. Games of hackers versus hackers should provide the most damning evidence, IMO, of illegitimate play. We have got to start trying to turn some hackers into assets instead of turning the whole ladder into a liability. No one reports anyone because they're either too obvious or you realize they're hacking, but you never get the chance to play them enough to have a big enough sample to prove it to others. As for the replay, at 22:08 does a hacker move. His general theme seems to be "wait until things become relevant to me" to bother attacking/killing. I found that interesting, because everyone else... they just instantly kill things and then act like they get lucky every game but are too busy to play the lotto.
That's not me. I haven't played sc2 since IPL4 (almost 3 years ago), I've been playing csgo for the past 2 years. Bought HotS in the summer and played placements, got placed into plat and haven't touched it since. Actually wasn't even aware of this until someone pm'ed me yesterday.
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On January 08 2015 07:23 SyNc` wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 04:54 playa wrote:Name: vileSynC Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2448187/1/vileSynC/Server: NA League GM Replay: http://ggtracker.com/matches/5700344I don't know what I'm supposed to do. So, everyone knows this guy hacks. Yet, he has over 6.5K games played: reporting is obviously futile. I personally find this game troubling/sad, though, because he is playing in a way more legit way than a lot of hacking pros/semi pros are. 1, he scouted me with a probe. 2, not only did he use hallucinations but he looked at them :o I'm still in shock that there was a probe in my base, yet it wasn't for making cannons. I don't want the guy banned because I find it cute that despite everyone in GM knowing he hacks, he at least "made an effort." And, after 6.5k games, have to give him some credit... That said, if we're going to allow players to hack for years on end, when anyone above gold league knows what they're doing, can we please try to find a way to have them benefit the scene? IMO, this guy and people like him, who are relatively harmless (don't play in tournaments) should have to submit their replays to either Blizzard or some group of people that are tasked with looking over replays. Games of hackers versus hackers should provide the most damning evidence, IMO, of illegitimate play. We have got to start trying to turn some hackers into assets instead of turning the whole ladder into a liability. No one reports anyone because they're either too obvious or you realize they're hacking, but you never get the chance to play them enough to have a big enough sample to prove it to others. As for the replay, at 22:08 does a hacker move. His general theme seems to be "wait until things become relevant to me" to bother attacking/killing. I found that interesting, because everyone else... they just instantly kill things and then act like they get lucky every game but are too busy to play the lotto. That's not me. I haven't played sc2 since IPL4 (almost 3 years ago), I've been playing csgo for the past 2 years. Bought HotS in the summer and played placements, got placed into plat and haven't touched it since. Actually wasn't even aware of this until someone pm'ed me yesterday.
Pretty lame to pose as someone! Don't stress it :-p
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can´t we somehow get an overview of hackers?
p.e. i played a lot of imbaQQ guys, but they didn´t seemed to be hacking. i´m kinda confused since everyone says it´s the hacker team. i only played master players though.
it takes quite some time to search for hackers in those 400 pages.
on the other hand it doesn´t really matter, i know.
just thought about it.
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Replay: http://drop.sc/391857
Hacker name: TheGMTerran
Server: North America
League : Diamond
Description: First obvious maphacker I've played in a while. Been watching Puck's stream and have been having relative success with the Warp Prism Immortal drop and it's basically become my go to PvT build on ladder. Yet, this guy as soon as he finishes his starport, blindly builds a viking and multiple turrets in his base without scouting. Everytime I sent a hallucinated phoenix to try and scout him, he would position his army perfectly to catch it.
Timestamps:
6:13 - Clearly looks into my fog of war and through my base.
6:57 - Looks at my natural and through my base again, fog of war. No scans.
11:15 - I find it strange with no map vision, he splits half his army to deal with an empty warp prism. No scouting. Still does not even know what base I'm at.
11:42 - Takes a quick peek at my army at my third through fog of war.
13:15 - I'm not sure if this is a normal route for terran to take, but obviously he never knew what base I was at. Drops directly on my Templar Archives and Robo without scouting. Didn't even feel like playing the game out because I felt it was obvious I was just dealing with a maphacker.
Thoughts would be appreciated.
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Terran aesde is a Maphack user
account
battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/10190688299291508736
Replay
http://drop.sc/391892
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On January 08 2015 08:48 hypnotoad.410 wrote:
can´t we somehow get an overview of hackers?
p.e. i played a lot of imbaQQ guys, but they didn´t seemed to be hacking. i´m kinda confused since everyone says it´s the hacker team. i only played master players though.
it takes quite some time to search for hackers in those 400 pages.
on the other hand it doesn´t really matter, i know.
just thought about it.
Yeah sure just do the OP, watch every replay, and update it yourself.
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On January 11 2015 09:36 Jimmeh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 08:48 hypnotoad.410 wrote:
can´t we somehow get an overview of hackers?
p.e. i played a lot of imbaQQ guys, but they didn´t seemed to be hacking. i´m kinda confused since everyone says it´s the hacker team. i only played master players though.
it takes quite some time to search for hackers in those 400 pages.
on the other hand it doesn´t really matter, i know.
just thought about it. Yeah sure just do the OP, watch every replay, and update it yourself.
Because he has the ability to update the OP.
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On January 11 2015 09:47 GGzerG wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 09:36 Jimmeh wrote:On January 08 2015 08:48 hypnotoad.410 wrote:
can´t we somehow get an overview of hackers?
p.e. i played a lot of imbaQQ guys, but they didn´t seemed to be hacking. i´m kinda confused since everyone says it´s the hacker team. i only played master players though.
it takes quite some time to search for hackers in those 400 pages.
on the other hand it doesn´t really matter, i know.
just thought about it. Yeah sure just do the OP, watch every replay, and update it yourself. Because he has the ability to update the OP.
If only there was some way to create new threads.
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On January 11 2015 09:49 Jimmeh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 09:47 GGzerG wrote:On January 11 2015 09:36 Jimmeh wrote:On January 08 2015 08:48 hypnotoad.410 wrote:
can´t we somehow get an overview of hackers?
p.e. i played a lot of imbaQQ guys, but they didn´t seemed to be hacking. i´m kinda confused since everyone says it´s the hacker team. i only played master players though.
it takes quite some time to search for hackers in those 400 pages.
on the other hand it doesn´t really matter, i know.
just thought about it. Yeah sure just do the OP, watch every replay, and update it yourself. Because he has the ability to update the OP. If only there was some way to create new threads.
Editing old posts can be done.
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On January 07 2015 16:08 GGzerG wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 10:41 duckk wrote:On January 05 2015 01:46 GGzerG wrote:On January 04 2015 17:08 duckk wrote:On January 04 2015 13:58 RPR_Tempest wrote:On January 03 2015 13:07 FabledIntegral wrote:On January 03 2015 05:03 RPR_Tempest wrote:[LYGs] GhostKing, Master Terran on NA. http://drop.sc/391159Fairly blatant stuff, doesn't scout (apart from once as a side effect from a mine drop). I put down a roach warren and he instantly puts a tech lab on his rax and moves it to factory to rush out a tank. The good old standard, cc first into rax-factory-tech lab build. Also, he sees my lair later and you can probably assume that its mutas, but not 100%. He puts down some turrets at a standardish time, which is fine. What isn't fine is how many he puts down (2 in one spot, 3 in another single spot) without even confirming if mutas are in fact coming or not. Tank after CC first is also not insanely uncommon if you scout gas from a Zerg (assuming, did not see rep, just going based on what you stated). As I said, he didn't scout anything at all (even my position) until he mine dropped later in the game. I have talked with a few people and gone over replays (not yours because I dont care about that)He is 100% legit. What a very mature and kind way to express why you didn't go over his replay as well. It is better than publicly accusing some1 who is legit of hacking? Have 50 random people send you a replay of some1 who is "hacking" and the majority of them will be a joke. Oh ok and that justifies you being rude for no reason lol, inferiority complex much? Or do you just feel that you are good enough to talk to people in a demeaning way? Hey can I see one of your replays where you accuse someone of hacking duckk? Oh wait I don't feel like watching your Joke replays , sorry thx.
Falsely accusing people of hacking is a very valid reason to be "rude". It is a waste of time for myself and is a very large reason in Blizzard being less active in banning. If you pm me I can show you replays I've used to get people banned, however I take my replays directly to blizzard. Does my being "rude" justify yourself being equally rude. smh the people on this website.
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Before being able to PM duck, this is the PM I received from him.
On January 11 2015 10:18 duckk wrote:
You are extremely autistic, go kill yourself low level no name.
Yea I'm sure Blizzard listens to you very well, and I'm sure everyone on TL should listen to your amazing opinion and analytical skill as well sir, you demonstrate such a high level of knowledge and wisdom by PMing someone you told to PM you, that they are autistic and to go kill themselves because they disagree with you on an internet forum.
Also you take your Replays directly to Blizzard themselves ? And they just ban the hackers for you? Wow you must be someone very important. I can feel your importance emanate from your low post count.
Do you always tell someone to PM you for proof of replays you've brought to Blizzard yourself ( lol ) , and then proceed to call them autistic and tell them to commit suicide? SMH random low post count users on this website... T_T
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How is duckk not banned from Team Liquid yet? He just spams the forums and harasses people all day in PMs lol. All his posts have all been non constructive trolling and toxic vile. This thread has degenerated over the past year.
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Was really hoping the amount of hacking had been exaggerated, just started playing again and well, this is demotivating...
battlenet://starcraft/profile/1/10103760905704570880
replay: http://drop.sc/391924
Hacker name: (its some barcode)
Server: North America
League : He was masters but currently Platinum (likely due to being inactive for several seasons) playing vs diamonds/masters. (94% winrate, 100% as toss. lol...)
EDIT: Well... he 'played' another like 20 games and is currently diamond now. What is hilarious is that after his first loss as toss he left the league and played another placement match to make it look like he has 0 losses in his league... Obviously that fake win-ratio is very important to it xD
Description: Really blatant hacking. Camera almost never enters fog of war, but he attack moves every scouting marine I place in the fog of war without looking. Pulls back his army to defend pushes without vision etc.
Timeline:
The suspicious stuff:
3:30 - as he is following my scv into fog of war you'll notice a screen jitter as his camera transitions between the vision he has in his main and the probe at his natural.
3:30 - 3:44 - keeps probe hidden while he waits for my scv to move out of the way to build a nexus (does coincide with the mineral timing but still fishy).
5:30 - camera again jitters as he scrolls through fog between his nat and main.
5:30 - sends stalker to my base (has never scouted).
And here is where the fun begins and where I start to realize how much this guy is hacking. Grab some popcorn:
12:00 - Attack moves into fog to kill scouting marine
12:38 - Attack moves into fog to kill scouting marine
13:55 - Attack moves into fog without looking at fog to kill scouting marine.
13:55 - 14:10 - Follows one of my squads into fog without vision. (this is the point in game where i realized something was fishy)
14:53 - Attack moves into fog to kill scouting marine
14:57 - Attack moves into one of my squads in fog of war
15:25 - After chasing my first squad, recalls home as another squad is in fog breaking the rocks to his nat/third.
16:05 - Stops attacking the squad that just broke down the rocks and attack moves another squad in fog at the ramp.
16:25 - my squad at the rocks pushes forward again as I see him approach the watch tower. He immediately pulls back to defend as my units move forward.
16:38 - Attack moves the units I have pulling back from the rocks through fog of war.
(I scan at 16:58 trying to see if he had an observer on me cause at this point I'm almost certain he is hacking.)
17:05 - His units randomly break chase again and go home to defend right as my units in fog start moving toward his third.
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I saw in another thread that team ascension was signing up some of their players for a tournament. Euphoria (who has been mentioned in this thread) was signed up, with Psycho being listed as his aka. A year ago or so, I played Psycho on star station. I had been pylon blocking around that time, and I had just decided to try out making a cannon to go along with the pylon block. After I made a plyon, I went to scout his base. Before my probe even got close to returning down the ramp to make a cannon, he literally pulled all of his drones to try to prevent this. He hadn't even come close to scouting my base yet.
He told me to "check the replay." If that is his defense, he was hacking 100%. Thus, I added him so I never had to play him again. And, games like these are probably why aprilterran isn't in a hurry for people to provide evidence in this thread about euphoria hacking. This has got to be one of the shadiest/dirtiest teams going.
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On January 14 2015 09:49 playa wrote:
I saw in another thread that team ascension was signing up some of their players for a tournament. Euphoria (who has been mentioned in this thread) was signed up, with Psycho being listed as his aka. A year ago or so, I played Psycho on star station. I had been pylon blocking around that time, and I had just decided to try out making a cannon to go along with the pylon block. After I made a plyon, I went to scout his base. Before my probe even got close to returning down the ramp to make a cannon, he literally pulled all of his drones to try to prevent this. He hadn't even come close to scouting my base yet.
He told me to "check the replay." If that is his defense, he was hacking 100%. Thus, I added him so I never had to play him again. And, games like these are probably why aprilterran isn't in a hurry for people to provide evidence in this thread about euphoria hacking. This has got to be one of the shadiest/dirtiest teams going.
do you have the replay by chance? I have several reports on this guy, but the situation you are in is possible. Ive had games against players like incontrol who did that every game and on different maps i blindly sent 4 drones to my natural at a certain time.
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On January 14 2015 09:54 duckk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2015 09:49 playa wrote:
I saw in another thread that team ascension was signing up some of their players for a tournament. Euphoria (who has been mentioned in this thread) was signed up, with Psycho being listed as his aka. A year ago or so, I played Psycho on star station. I had been pylon blocking around that time, and I had just decided to try out making a cannon to go along with the pylon block. After I made a plyon, I went to scout his base. Before my probe even got close to returning down the ramp to make a cannon, he literally pulled all of his drones to try to prevent this. He hadn't even come close to scouting my base yet.
He told me to "check the replay." If that is his defense, he was hacking 100%. Thus, I added him so I never had to play him again. And, games like these are probably why aprilterran isn't in a hurry for people to provide evidence in this thread about euphoria hacking. This has got to be one of the shadiest/dirtiest teams going. do you have the replay by chance? I have several reports on this guy, but the situation you are in is possible. Ive had games against players like incontrol who did that every game and on different maps i blindly sent 4 drones to my natural at a certain time.
Yeah I do. I'll upload (sec). This is part of the reason why I gave a back story. Not only was this my first time playing the guy, to my knowledge, but I had been only pylon blocking for at least a month. Yes, I was pylon blocking at the same time as in this replay (even if it was too early/incorrect).
For the longest time, this was the only way I knew when people would hack vs me. Because no one ever pulled drones like this when I didn't have a forge. Only when I tried this.
Replay: http://drop.sc/392051
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Server : [NA]
Players Name : [gXi]Prometheus
Race : Protoss
Matchup : Z v P ( me Z ) ( I am Top Master Z for reference in past 17 seasons)
Replay : http://drop.sc/392052
bnet account : I am unable to find his battle.net account
I have never posted a replay of a game before but this guy I feel so obviously hacks....This was in this [gXi] clan tournament, I 10pooled first game and it didn't seem very evident and the game ended fast due to me not stopping a cannon rush, this the 2nd game that I feel was so obvious.
Reasons why he hacks :
1. Never scouts my base all game except with 1 probe
2. Never scouts im my tech path
3. always has camera on his units right before engagements , even before my baneling bust and he builds a 2nd defensive cannon to block his ramp completely.
4. Builds an observer, leaves it idle at my 3rd for a minute, if u watch he never see's ANYTHING with the observer ( Never looks at it with his camera ) , then takes it back into his army.
5. Builds EIGHT ( 8 ) defensive cannons at his natural expansion without scouting what tech path im going, opens blink for no reason.
6. I think it is really obvious if you just keep the camera on his view only....please tell me what you think guys...
I tried to tell [gXi] clan leaders and members the player obviously maphacks or production hacks, but they would not listen. Wouldn't even let me provide the replay, just banned me from chat. ( rofl ) .
I think it is pretty damn obvious...
Replay : http://drop.sc/392052
EDIT : It is really sad that this happened in a custom game / for what was supposed to be a touranment.
[gXi] clan would do nothing about this and the leaders / managers wouldn't even watch the replay. When I showed one of there lower league players he said "He just played good" , Yea he must be related to Nostradamus.
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