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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
ChiefTMNT
Profile Joined September 2014
Canada3 Posts
December 07 2014 04:52 GMT
#8561
http://drop.sc/390001
Reporting a hacker
Protoss NA - battlenet://starcraft/profile/1/7700078970984726528

Blizzard please actually do something about hackers...
Hi
Gen.Rolly
Profile Joined September 2011
United States200 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-07 05:47:48
December 07 2014 05:46 GMT
#8562
drop.sc/390003
Reporting a hacker
Protoss NA - battlenet://starcraft/profile/1/7700078970984726528

Looks into Fog of War around 12:25 before a big battle, and also various other times.
Vector locked in.
poligono
Profile Joined December 2014
2 Posts
December 07 2014 13:37 GMT
#8563
Team: [MT] Sterben
Server: EU
League: Master
Replay: http://drop.sc/390016

Counters oracle without knowing about it, scans for dts while fighting while having a raven (he's a retard yes) and not having scouted my shrine.
Marine kid
Profile Joined December 2014
Russian Federation2 Posts
December 07 2014 15:27 GMT
#8564
On December 07 2014 22:37 poligono wrote:
Team: [MT] Sterben
Server: EU
League: Master
Replay: http://drop.sc/390016

Counters oracle without knowing about it, scans for dts while fighting while having a raven (he's a retard yes) and not having scouted my shrine.

Mine in mineral line is what alot of terrans blindly do if they go for fast factory just to be safe. That scan could actually be an accident, maybe he wanted to call down a mule or something else, you can't know exactly. I see no maphacker here, but only a raging cheesy guy who completely failed every move got wrecked by a counter attack.
Wormi
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany181 Posts
December 07 2014 16:27 GMT
#8565
On December 07 2014 22:37 poligono wrote:
Team: [MT] Sterben
Server: EU
League: Master
Replay: http://drop.sc/390016

Counters oracle without knowing about it, scans for dts while fighting while having a raven (he's a retard yes) and not having scouted my shrine.


yea. but i love his fake scouting. finally someone who tries to hide it. first with his scv, later with the medivac.
the timing he repositions his mine is pretty funny. right after you start blink he puts it in a position to counter blink play. ^^
I´m a real person. Beep beep.
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-07 16:37:03
December 07 2014 16:35 GMT
#8566
double post
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-07 17:06:10
December 07 2014 16:36 GMT
#8567
On December 07 2014 13:52 ChiefTMNT wrote:
http://drop.sc/390001
Reporting a hacker
Protoss NA - battlenet://starcraft/profile/1/7700078970984726528


Edit: BOTH of these are about the same player, so this can't be a coincidence. I checked the replays, the 1st one doesn't give much away but you can see the player checking into the fog of war and he blindly goes to where the other play spawns without scouting.

In the second example, shown below, the hacker never scouts and moves to expansions blindly without first scouting them. At 17:45 he even moves his army to defend a muta attack in his main base, and he doesn't even have observers or any other units scouting for him! This guy is clearly a hacker, albeit a VERY terrible SC2 player. Blizzard pls do something about this.

On December 07 2014 14:46 Gen.Rolly wrote:
drop.sc/390003
Reporting a hacker
Protoss NA - battlenet://starcraft/profile/1/7700078970984726528

Looks into Fog of War around 12:25 before a big battle, and also various other times.
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
GGOSterben
Profile Joined December 2014
Australia2 Posts
December 07 2014 22:24 GMT
#8568
On December 07 2014 22:37 poligono wrote:
Team: [MT] Sterben
Server: EU
League: Master
Replay: http://drop.sc/390016

Counters oracle without knowing about it, scans for dts while fighting while having a raven (he's a retard yes) and not having scouted my shrine.
Why cheesers likes to act like they only ones who did that stupid cheesy build?

No stalkers from proxy gate - it means that protoss teching up or building nexus, i dont believe in mid master protosses, so - they are cheesing as usual.

I knew that protoss can't continue to stay on this tech - only thing that i could not break were dts, i just notice this and build that raven trying to hope that protoss is stupid enough to not build any colossi, and I was right, you commited to dts and u lost trying to get another free win with broken units.

But I think terran players shouldnt defend any cheesy protoss builds, because if terran defends - all protosses starts QQing everywhere calling everybody - maphackers, so l2p and stop QQing, pathetic race...
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 00:08:05
December 08 2014 00:07 GMT
#8569
On December 08 2014 07:24 GGOSterben wrote:


But I think terran players shouldnt defend any cheesy protoss builds, because if terran defends - all protosses starts QQing everywhere calling everybody - maphackers, so l2p and stop QQing, pathetic race...


I came into this thread hoping to see this type of argument going on and I was quite satisfied.
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
December 08 2014 05:29 GMT
#8570
On December 08 2014 09:07 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2014 07:24 GGOSterben wrote:


But I think terran players shouldnt defend any cheesy protoss builds, because if terran defends - all protosses starts QQing everywhere calling everybody - maphackers, so l2p and stop QQing, pathetic race...


I came into this thread hoping to see this type of argument going on and I was quite satisfied.

Rofl the defendant is here
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 08 2014 06:33 GMT
#8571
Detective Templar investigated the case of Sterben. Analyzation of replay:

2:00
Scouting SCV is sent to the proxy gate, as well as one other location. The path of the SCV is not rigorous at all and can not actually see a proxy gate if it was in a slightly different location. Not suspicious on its own, but similar patterns were exhibited in very suspicious ways.

4:00
Bunker built on ramp despite only seeing a zealot. Reasonable and not suspicious.

5:30
A damning piece of evidence exists here. Sterben has not scouted a single bit, not even to see whether additional units were created from the gateways. While his choice of a widow mine is not absurd, the positioning of it in the mineral line is extremely suspicious.

Note that the gateway proxy is in the area below the main base of Sterben. Why would Sterben position his widow mine to deflect an oracle coming from the right side? Why does he unload his marines from the bunker, as if he knew there were no gateway units coming, in order to completely deflect an oracle he didn't have definite knowledge of? Neither of these are suggested by information that might have come from outside the game.

Even if he would want to counter an oracle that is only possible, that positioning is highly suspicious, as the oracle could easily be on the left side of the map, and it is even suggested by the game as it would be more convenient to place the stargate next to the already proxied pylon.

6:30
Another damning bit of evidence, which is even supported by the defendant. The accuser expanded immediately after losing the oracle and Sterben IMMEDIATELY salvages his bunker. However, there could have just as easily been a 3 gateway + void ray attack just about to push up his ramp, in which case he'd need the bunker. Additionally, as I said, Sterben even gives evidence that he would blindly assume the opposite. When he says

No stalkers from proxy gate - it means that protoss teching up or building nexus, i dont believe in mid master protosses, so - they are cheesing as usual.


He says that the protoss is likely cheesing. A proxy oracle into expand is a greedy + tech play, and is not particularly suggested in-game. A cheese would be the aforementioned 3-gate stargate attack, which would look exactly the same due to a lack of scouting. This means he is countering exactly what he doesn't expect his opponent to do. His attitude upon arriving in this thread- confident and defensive- proclaims that he was playing intelligently in this game, so he should not have been doing what he thought wouldn't work.

8:30
Sterben sends his medivac to the stargate. He doesn't look around for it, but simply sends it there and brings it back immediately. You can not argue that he wouldn't do this because of the phoenix, because he knows the phoenix is there.

Additionally, he has barely left his base but is getting a raven against DTs. This is suspicious but, by itself, not conclusive.

10:00
He moves his tank/marine army back in response to a red blip on the minimap which had appeared less than a second before. Odd behavior.

11:45
The scan despite having a raven moment. Unless he completely forgot he had a raven, the only satisfying explanation is that he knew there was a DT and was trying to find it. Or maybe he was trying to land a manner MULE and messed up.

In conclusion, the events at 5:30 and 6:30 strongly suggest a production hack and a minimap hack, and unusual movements in other parts of the game only reinforce this.
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Almand
Profile Joined September 2012
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 10:33:36
December 08 2014 10:31 GMT
#8572
On December 08 2014 15:33 The_Templar wrote:
Additionally, he has barely left his base but is getting a raven against DTs. This is suspicious but, by itself, not conclusive.


Also noticed how he cancelled viking on a halfway done and started techlab on starport to get raven immediately after protoss started dark shrine. Why would you cancel viking like this? Idk perfect game sense i guess.
StreetWise
Profile Joined January 2010
United States594 Posts
December 08 2014 20:30 GMT
#8573
On December 07 2014 13:52 ChiefTMNT wrote:
http://drop.sc/390001
Reporting a hacker
Protoss NA - battlenet://starcraft/profile/1/7700078970984726528

Blizzard please actually do something about hackers...


Came on here to report the same low life, so its pretty much certain he is a hacker. I still win though... lol.
http://drop.sc/390078
I will not be poisoned by your bitterness
Konranjyoutai
Profile Joined April 2012
112 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 13:55:50
December 09 2014 13:53 GMT
#8574
Name - Barcode
Server - NA
League - Diamond
Replay - http://drop.sc/390107

Starts the game off by attack moving a marine towards an overlord he doesn't have vision of. Then throws down two bunkers to counter a handful of speedlings immediately after without scouting. He then goes into fast four CC and 6-8 starport hellion/banshee/raven/viking. Before this he makes a push with a handful of marines and hellions, scans the highground to kill an overlord he doesn't have vision of and never saw it position itself then continues to position his units and intercept my units with zero vision. I end up winning but still..this is absurd how obvious he makes it. Very strange stuff.
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
December 09 2014 17:33 GMT
#8575
On December 09 2014 22:53 Konranjyoutai wrote:
Name - Barcode
Server - NA
League - Diamond
Replay - http://drop.sc/390107

Starts the game off by attack moving a marine towards an overlord he doesn't have vision of. Then throws down two bunkers to counter a handful of speedlings immediately after without scouting. He then goes into fast four CC and 6-8 starport hellion/banshee/raven/viking. Before this he makes a push with a handful of marines and hellions, scans the highground to kill an overlord he doesn't have vision of and never saw it position itself then continues to position his units and intercept my units with zero vision. I end up winning but still..this is absurd how obvious he makes it. Very strange stuff.

Surprising how this hacker doesn't even TRY to hide it. He outright never scouts, and makes 2 bunkers to defend against a big number of speedlings. At 8:30 he scans over the high ground to kill an overlord he couldn't have otherwise known had existed in the first place. Multiple other pieces of evidence arise in this replay. Blizz, fucking ban this guy.
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
Abturn
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany55 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 20:31:54
December 09 2014 20:31 GMT
#8576
Name : TES Stareagle
Server : EU
League : GM
Replay : http://drop.sc/390117

Not sure if he's a 100% Hacker but he does weird Things, maybe a better known Hacker Detecter could watch it?
Opening is just weird, CC First into Ebay Block and i go 1 Gate FE with SG he has intime Turrets without a Scout Scan and even before oracle appears he builded a 2nd Turret. Also his Army movement was weird too, but like i said could someone who has more expierence watch it?
Fyrex
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada102 Posts
December 09 2014 20:41 GMT
#8577
On November 26 2014 18:29 ChiefSC wrote:
Name llIlllIIIl (LLILLLIIIL)
Server: NA
League: GM
Race: Terran
Replay: http://drop.sc/389451

First of all watch the God damn replay you see what i mean!
He must be a maphacker or he must see the future. He hardcounter´s me all the time. Build turrets when. I do burrow. Run in right postions and my favorit thing is 15min not even a SINGLE SCOUT SCAN OR EVEN A DROP! But he knows what i do... Sorry for my bad english.


I just watched it and it didn't really seem all that suspicious to me. Just a turtling terran.
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
December 09 2014 23:01 GMT
#8578
On December 10 2014 05:31 Abturn wrote:
Name : TES Stareagle
Server : EU
League : GM
Replay : http://drop.sc/390117

Not sure if he's a 100% Hacker but he does weird Things, maybe a better known Hacker Detecter could watch it?
Opening is just weird, CC First into Ebay Block and i go 1 Gate FE with SG he has intime Turrets without a Scout Scan and even before oracle appears he builded a 2nd Turret. Also his Army movement was weird too, but like i said could someone who has more expierence watch it?

That player is NOT a hacker. I watched the replay and there are no camlocks, and nothing really suspicious really going on. The player seems to just have outplayed you. You say "without a Scout Scan" but did you even notice the SCV that he popped into your base after the 5 min mark? I mean, how can you even let that happen. So yes, he saw your SG so he reacted.
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
donejango
Profile Joined December 2014
Canada3 Posts
December 09 2014 23:20 GMT
#8579
--- Nuked ---
JonyJ
Profile Joined August 2010
Israel7 Posts
December 10 2014 01:27 GMT
#8580
Name: [RatZ] Nerffy
Server: AM
League: Masters
Replay: http://drop.sc/390126

A suspicious replay where Nerffy has weird camera movements throughout the game - barely changes his camera view all early and midgame. It also seems that he counters all I do very well and blindly (at least from early to midgame stages), wanted to see what you guys think.
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