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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody. Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence. | ||
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dde
Canada796 Posts
On March 27 2014 17:05 sc2chronic wrote: Hacker name: TomBombodil Server: NA League: masters Description: Played him again. Again blind counter to 10 pool bane. Moves his army positioned according to mine. http://drop.sc/377639 he should be on ban list this guy map hacks 100 percent | ||
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Jimmeh
United Kingdom908 Posts
Server EU League Masters Description http://drop.sc/378452 Normally I'd go through the replay and provide exact details, but honestly if you watch the replay for 8minutes (at most) in game time you'll see enough. Follows my reaper with his stalker/MSC perfectly and completely blind, after his stalker pressure he amoves directly onto my scouting SCVs in fog of war, warps in stalkers perfectly to an unscouted drop, always positions his army perfectly wherever I'm attacking, moves out zealots to exactly where my marines are positioned... and all of this is with 0 scouting. Basically he doesn't even try to hide it. | ||
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Candino
Russian Federation26 Posts
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yolteotl
France76 Posts
Hacker name : lllllllllllll Server EU (Division : Jorgensen Echo) League : Master Description : http://www.ggtracker.com/matches/4916456 I cheesed him (proxy rax), he watched at it @ 2:20 and 2:24, then put a bunker without scout it... He found a scv building a ninja-CC at the end too (and other funny stuffs during the game) | ||
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Candino
Russian Federation26 Posts
League : Master replay 5:20 Changes rally point as like as he knows i am expanding 13:40 0 observers but reacts so luckily to my 2 medivac drop 14:02 Incredible luck at catching 1 more medivac. 14:13 Why does he suddenly move all his army back? 14:19 Which sense helped him move ht to the perfect position to feedback 4 medivacs? 0 observers all game long. How can it be possible to play like this in tvp? Please check the replay. | ||
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AFSpeeDy
126 Posts
On April 12 2014 22:30 Candino wrote: Hacker name : [AF]TOM League : Master replay 5:20 Changes rally point as like as he knows i am expanding 13:40 0 observers but reacts so luckily to my 2 medivac drop 14:02 Incredible luck at catching 1 more medivac. 14:13 Why does he suddenly move all his army back? 14:19 Which sense helped him move ht to the perfect position to feedback 4 medivacs? 0 observers all game long. How can it be possible to play like this in tvp? Please check the replay. Without watching the replay i can 100% say that he never hacks. Hell, he even streams the whole time on TL and commentates in Teamspeak and yes, luck is part of the game. (Im the Co Leader of Af). EDIT: Watched the replay. 5:20 Doesnt mean anything. 13:40 his army spots your medivacs as he moves to the middle of the map. Honestly its not hard to catch medivacs when they are 30 seconds ago unloaded and standing there. 14:13 He chased the medvacs before and then went back. I heard standing in the middle of nowhere isn't very good. 14:19 he had 1 safety HT standing there with 89 energy. 1 Feedback doesnt kill 4 medivacs. Honestly next time dont accuse someone of maphacking when you lost. | ||
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Candino
Russian Federation26 Posts
On April 12 2014 22:47 AFSpeeDy wrote: Without watching the replay i can 100% say that he never hacks. Hell, he even streams the whole time on TL and commentates in Teamspeak and yes, luck is part of the game. (Im the Co Leader of Af). You can stream with maphack easily just by capturing only sc2. Maphack is like an overlay which you can just not include into capture. I just can't understand how he can play with 0 observers and can't understand why he moved all his army back while fixing templar position 5 sec before drop. | ||
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RLcAnWaiT
Germany4 Posts
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Ai.Cola
Germany236 Posts
On April 12 2014 23:11 Candino wrote: You can stream with maphack easily just by capturing only sc2. Maphack is like an overlay which you can just not include into capture. I just can't understand how he can play with 0 observers and can't understand why he moved all his army back while fixing templar position 5 sec before drop. How do you know that maphack works like that? Gonna watch the replay now. Edit: so the end was kinda weird, but there is absolutely no solid evidence for maphack. | ||
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Jade
Poland289 Posts
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LingBlingBling
United States353 Posts
On April 12 2014 23:11 Candino wrote: You can stream with maphack easily just by capturing only sc2. Maphack is like an overlay which you can just not include into capture. I just can't understand how he can play with 0 observers and can't understand why he moved all his army back while fixing templar position 5 sec before drop. This guy is a perfect example of why we need moderation back in this Thread. Everything you said was wrong. There are 2 types of map hacks, Internal (most commonly used injects into .exe and provides other features potentially, can't be hidden on stream) and external which is a overlay that also can't be hidden on stream, the map hack portion aka mini map hack will still be displayed on screen, the only way to hide would be to have the overlay on a 2nd monitor. But the guy you are accusing is 100% legit and nothing in the replays shows any ounce of hacking, this is why we need moderation, this thread is just being used to rage cry and whine after losing games. People dragging innocent peoples names into the mud because they lost games, hardly any good evidence presented at all. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On April 14 2014 12:11 LingBlingBling wrote: This guy is a perfect example of why we need moderation back in this Thread. Everything you said was wrong. There are 2 types of map hacks, Internal (most commonly used injects into .exe and provides other features potentially, can't be hidden on stream) and external which is a overlay that also can't be hidden on stream, the map hack portion aka mini map hack will still be displayed on screen, the only way to hide would be to have the overlay on a 2nd monitor. But the guy you are accusing is 100% legit and nothing in the replays shows any ounce of hacking, this is why we need moderation, this thread is just being used to rage cry and whine after losing games. People dragging innocent peoples names into the mud because they lost games, hardly any good evidence presented at all. Look, the dude posted evidence, and people called him out. Thread purpose served. Having a moderator here would do nothing to prevent the thing you're complaining about, because it happened all the time before when there was someone watching the thread. | ||
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Daimai
Sweden762 Posts
On April 14 2014 12:05 Jade wrote: http://drop.sc/378638 [PwRG] Stygian Not much to say, proxy 2 gate on Merry Go Round. What is hilarous is that he scouts with 2 probes yet he starts his proxy in my base without even checking the base he's proxying in and his 2nd probe stopped at the other base's natural. Hehe, watched the replay, seems my scouting trick has caught on. It's not maphack. If you select the probe of Stygian you will see that he has queued up two commands to walk to the place where the nexus is supposed to be. This creates two green lines and if they diverge, you know a nexus is there without needing to actually see it, since its in the way of the probes pathing, even through the fog of war. I suspect that the other probe didn't scout because the guy didn't have the multitasking to check two bases at once. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On April 14 2014 13:47 Daimai wrote: Hehe, watched the replay, seems my scouting trick has caught on. It's not maphack. If you select the probe of Stygian you will see that he has queued up two commands to walk to the place where the nexus is supposed to be. This creates two green lines and if they diverge, you know a nexus is there without needing to actually see it, since its in the way of the probes pathing, even through the fog of war. I suspect that the other probe didn't scout because the guy didn't have the multitasking to check two bases at once. I'm not catching on .... how does that work...? | ||
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mainerd
United States347 Posts
On April 14 2014 14:32 FabledIntegral wrote: I'm not catching on .... how does that work...? I think you shift queue a move command that sends the probe back out of the main after the move command that hits the nex. The probe will follow the same exact path if no structure is there, but will diverge from that path as it enters the main if there is a structure. The two pathing lines diverge before you see the nex, letting you know it is there. | ||
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Wormi
Germany181 Posts
On April 12 2014 22:30 Candino wrote: Hacker name : [AF]TOM League : Master replay 5:20 Changes rally point as like as he knows i am expanding 13:40 0 observers but reacts so luckily to my 2 medivac drop 14:02 Incredible luck at catching 1 more medivac. 14:13 Why does he suddenly move all his army back? 14:19 Which sense helped him move ht to the perfect position to feedback 4 medivacs? 0 observers all game long. How can it be possible to play like this in tvp? Please check the replay. such an army movement without obs! if this was luck, he wasted a ton of karma during this game. on the other hand, i met him several times on the ladder. don´t think he was hacking against me. maybe you can check his ranking. when i played him, we were both low master. if he got into top 8 masters within a month, it could be mh. | ||
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
On April 12 2014 05:16 yolteotl wrote: Obvious maphacker : Hacker name : lllllllllllll Server EU (Division : Jorgensen Echo) League : Master Description : http://www.ggtracker.com/matches/4916456 I cheesed him (proxy rax), he watched at it @ 2:20 and 2:24, then put a bunker without scout it... He found a scv building a ninja-CC at the end too (and other funny stuffs during the game) I watched replay from his camera view, very dodgy indeed. He doenst even look at what units to attack, his camera doesnt look at battles. He also looks into the fog of war minimap (only map hackers do that?). Also, he blindly drops turrets for banchees. That could be luck, but with the amount of turrets he used looks he knew, even tho no scan. | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On April 14 2014 12:11 LingBlingBling wrote: This guy is a perfect example of why we need moderation back in this Thread. Everything you said was wrong. There are 2 types of map hacks, Internal (most commonly used injects into .exe and provides other features potentially, can't be hidden on stream) and external which is a overlay that also can't be hidden on stream, the map hack portion aka mini map hack will still be displayed on screen, the only way to hide would be to have the overlay on a 2nd monitor. But the guy you are accusing is 100% legit and nothing in the replays shows any ounce of hacking, this is why we need moderation, this thread is just being used to rage cry and whine after losing games. People dragging innocent peoples names into the mud because they lost games, hardly any good evidence presented at all. Just to make it clear, you can stream with an external maphack using OBS. You capture sc2 scene and it won't show the said maphack. We got several dump people a while ago that were claiming they didn't hack and show us a stream for the sake of it, still the way they played was so obvious that it was a proof in itself (walling with canon to protecct 4 gate without scout ever scouting, spotting right away at the exact position other proxies, etc.) | ||
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Ai.Cola
Germany236 Posts
On April 14 2014 15:35 Wormi wrote: such an army movement without obs! if this was luck, he wasted a ton of karma during this game. on the other hand, i met him several times on the ladder. don´t think he was hacking against me. maybe you can check his ranking. when i played him, we were both low master. if he got into top 8 masters within a month, it could be mh. Can you name more than 1 or two of those lucky, weird army movements in that game? The fact that OP mentioned the oracle ralley in itself tells me that he didn't even watch the replay properly, because he changes the ralley point several times, with no system at all, and not in response to the expansion, also he immediatly cues his oracle in the main base ... where is the evidence? | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
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