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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
May 30 2012 12:18 GMT
#621
On May 30 2012 19:32 v3chr0 wrote:
Blizzard lost a lawsuit regarding Wardens functions and now they can't scan your computer for internal and external hacks anymore; making this problem much more difficult to deal with.



Link? Can't find anything about that
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 12:23:38
May 30 2012 12:22 GMT
#622
On May 30 2012 21:03 Silvertine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 20:27 Capped wrote:
Glad hackers are getting banned, but damn you guys are so childish sometimes, arguing about bullshit.

zZzZzZz for whatever reason, hackers are getting their shit turfed out of here now, be HAPPY people, HAPPY!

Wether it was one report, or 100 threads on TL and Reddit and international news coverage that took it.

THE FUCKER, GOT BANNED! (well, demoted, something happened!)

Dont worry, be happy!

+ Show Spoiler +


Also props to TT1, he's done shite in the past and he's the first to admit it, now he's some sort of hacking templar or some shit, turned from the dark side! :D

All you need now is some website for hacking rehab mate!

It's funny how people will get frustrated with others... for being frustrated. Either that or they will whine about people whining.

You have 1000 posts and yet you seem extremely new to the concept of the internet, a forum or TL. People are going to argue about things. When people say stupid things, others will get upset. I don't think linking a Bob Marley song is going to help that. And if you really took it to heart you wouldn't be shouting "THE FUCKER GOT BANNED"!


Was trying to get my point across :3

And he did, no? ^_^

Im not stressed out or anything by it, maybe i came across wrong with the caps and all, I just find it silly. Carry on by all means :D
Useless wet fish.
niilzon
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium105 Posts
May 30 2012 12:22 GMT
#623
On May 28 2012 13:10 ZweiGaming wrote:
As I said, GM maphackers are not something I can accept.


Actually, that's something that should not be accepted in ANY league.

Therefore Blizzard needs to use automated detection processes, which supposedly do not work correctly if they exist, since those players are obviously hacking
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 12:26:59
May 30 2012 12:24 GMT
#624
Isnt it possible for players to stream while hacking?

That program that hides certain things from viewers (e.g desktop, webpages) could be adapted for it no?

Didnt RICH develop that program? CONSPIRACY!
Useless wet fish.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
May 30 2012 12:30 GMT
#625
On May 30 2012 21:22 niilzon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 13:10 ZweiGaming wrote:
As I said, GM maphackers are not something I can accept.


Actually, that's something that should not be accepted in ANY league.

Therefore Blizzard needs to use automated detection processes, which supposedly do not work correctly if they exist, since those players are obviously hacking


The reason blizzard is catching the people they are is because threads like these bring it to there attention. There automated detection doesnt catch that many hackers but like with wow if they know to check you then they will catch you.
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
May 30 2012 12:34 GMT
#626
On May 30 2012 21:24 Capped wrote:
Isnt it possible for players to stream while hacking?

That program that hides certain things from viewers (e.g desktop, webpages) could be adapted for it no?

Didnt RICH develop that program? CONSPIRACY!

RICH made an app that forces an application into the layered windows category for xsplit, so that it's screen region capture method ignores it.
From the vod of the hacker that someone linked, it appears that the hack runs within the game's dx9 frame buffer, meaning any capture method (dxtory, game source, or screen region) would capture it. That's just one implementation of one type of cheat, so in theory you could run the map hack as an overlay and hide it from stream viewers, but you can pretty easily figure out that the dude is hacking just based on their mechanics and decision making, they'll play like tards and react to things they can't see on a very consistant basis.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 30 2012 12:38 GMT
#627
On May 30 2012 21:34 CatNzHat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 21:24 Capped wrote:
Isnt it possible for players to stream while hacking?

That program that hides certain things from viewers (e.g desktop, webpages) could be adapted for it no?

Didnt RICH develop that program? CONSPIRACY!

RICH made an app that forces an application into the layered windows category for xsplit, so that it's screen region capture method ignores it.
From the vod of the hacker that someone linked, it appears that the hack runs within the game's dx9 frame buffer, meaning any capture method (dxtory, game source, or screen region) would capture it. That's just one implementation of one type of cheat, so in theory you could run the map hack as an overlay and hide it from stream viewers, but you can pretty easily figure out that the dude is hacking just based on their mechanics and decision making, they'll play like tards and react to things they can't see on a very consistant basis.


Of course it would be easy to figure out, but the actual hack could be hidden. This is all in theory though.

It was just a passing thought, interesting though
Useless wet fish.
Sergio1992
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Italy522 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 12:56:54
May 30 2012 12:53 GMT
#628
Meh maphacking (or at least I think so?)

There are other people on this thread that I think have posted his name, but I'm not too sure about it, so I give you a replay I was sent via pm.

http://www.upload.ee/files/2380986/meh_maphacking.SC2Replay.html

Someone check it and say if it is enough clear or we need more proofs. But I guess we do need more.

Edit: And knowing that I was once his practice partner thread, I am not anymore surprised that he was able to counter every move I did with such amazing game-sense
Edit 2: that army moving right at 14:00 is really strange :D
-stOpSKY-
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada498 Posts
May 30 2012 13:12 GMT
#629
Im glad to see this Impa kid finally getting banned. GameOfDrone also was banned too(another maphacker).
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 30 2012 14:02 GMT
#630
Didn't blizz file a lawsuit against the people who were selling sc2 hacks? I wonder what the result was. Someone needs to find those guys' home addresses and go teach the skinny pale low-lifes a lesson.
one-one-one
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden551 Posts
May 30 2012 14:05 GMT
#631
On May 30 2012 21:16 Deleuze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 18:20 imCookies wrote:
NEW UPDATE: Impa is now in bronze league, Blizzard has to be the ones demoting him according to his match history he hasnt been able to play for hours, my guess is that he IS banned http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/275464/1/Impa/


Blizzard is one awesome company;

"well, we won't ban you, but i guess we can just demote you for the fun of it."
glad to see Blizzard paying attention to this.


Oh yeah, I remember this - don't hackers get banned and then their profiles get demoted to a special Disney Land Bronze league forever. Didn't this happen the last time when there were loads of EG.Idras doing the 'you were dropped' hack last year?

Such a small gesture but so effective.


Yeah. Put them all in their own n00b league where they belong.

Let the matchmaking system only match them vs each other.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1BFY4R7IIP4#t=1710s
FlukyS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland485 Posts
May 30 2012 14:53 GMT
#632
On May 30 2012 04:53 NiNETAiL wrote:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/81576264/SC2/DSNiNETAiL Replays.rar


Its funny how you think people will believe that you aren't map hacking because you post replays that you either 1. have it turned off or 2. are being really careful about using it.

I think there is more than enough evidence for you to be banned from the reps people posted.
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
May 30 2012 14:57 GMT
#633
On May 30 2012 23:02 Doodsmack wrote:
Didn't blizz file a lawsuit against the people who were selling sc2 hacks? I wonder what the result was. Someone needs to find those guys' home addresses and go teach the skinny pale low-lifes a lesson.


Don't see the crime there. If they do something on Blizz-servers thats something else. Just reading date you receive is not a crime und selling something like that shouln't be either.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 30 2012 15:03 GMT
#634
On May 30 2012 23:57 CruelZeratul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 23:02 Doodsmack wrote:
Didn't blizz file a lawsuit against the people who were selling sc2 hacks? I wonder what the result was. Someone needs to find those guys' home addresses and go teach the skinny pale low-lifes a lesson.


Don't see the crime there. If they do something on Blizz-servers thats something else. Just reading date you receive is not a crime und selling something like that shouln't be either.



It's not a crime but Blizzard alleged that it interfered with their profits so they're entitled to damages. Blizzard sued in a court that's not a criminal court.
Silvertine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States509 Posts
May 30 2012 15:32 GMT
#635
Saw a pretty blatant case posted in one of the reddit threads, thought I'd add it:

OnTheThrone

http://drop.sc/188667?pass=24fc33a0-f52f-40a5-9c21-e3d6795571cd
http://drop.sc/188691
http://drop.sc/188690
Gl!tch
Profile Joined December 2010
United States573 Posts
May 30 2012 15:35 GMT
#636
Victory! I lol'd at the bronze account. They could have just removed the account... but demoting him all the way down gets more laughs
“I mean, they say you die twice. One time when you stop breathing and a second time, a bit later on, when somebody says your name for the last time.” ― Banksy
Catatonic
Profile Joined August 2011
United States699 Posts
May 30 2012 15:35 GMT
#637
On May 30 2012 17:08 Masvidal wrote:
Ahhhhh . . . yet another witch hunt to keep tens of thousands of angry nerds busy trying to feed their E-go, and end up wasting more time running back and forth between battlenet and TL and reddit with their pitchforks and torches than they spend playing the game. If it keeps up like this, I'll be GM by the end of the summer because I'll be the only one practicing!

So we should just let those who cheat and gain money from cheating remain and do nothing about it? I hope you're joking otherwise the only feasible reason I can see to defend them is if you do it yourself
T: DeMuslim SeleCT. P: Naniwa Genius. Z: IdrA Destiny Team: EG
BeeNu
Profile Joined June 2011
615 Posts
May 30 2012 15:43 GMT
#638
Was that DSNiNETAiL guy determined to be a maphacker? I'm a bit suspicious since I see him spamming channels offering GM level coaching all the time and if he is a hacker he's likely scamming people out of money... I know I saw his name show up in this thread a while ago but idk if anything was decided about him.
doggy
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany306 Posts
May 30 2012 15:47 GMT
#639
On May 30 2012 21:53 Sergio1992 wrote:
Meh maphacking (or at least I think so?)

There are other people on this thread that I think have posted his name, but I'm not too sure about it, so I give you a replay I was sent via pm.

http://www.upload.ee/files/2380986/meh_maphacking.SC2Replay.html

Someone check it and say if it is enough clear or we need more proofs. But I guess we do need more.

Edit: And knowing that I was once his practice partner thread, I am not anymore surprised that he was able to counter every move I did with such amazing game-sense
Edit 2: that army moving right at 14:00 is really strange :D



He does definately maphack. I also mentioned him in my previous post, he also hacked vs me, i added a replay as well.

But what can we do about it? Nothing, because production tab hacks will never be detected or punished by blizzard. It also could have been "luck" or sth else
SuperYo1000
Profile Joined July 2008
United States880 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 15:50:40
May 30 2012 15:48 GMT
#640
On May 30 2012 21:53 Sergio1992 wrote:
Meh maphacking (or at least I think so?)

There are other people on this thread that I think have posted his name, but I'm not too sure about it, so I give you a replay I was sent via pm.

http://www.upload.ee/files/2380986/meh_maphacking.SC2Replay.html

Someone check it and say if it is enough clear or we need more proofs. But I guess we do need more.

Edit: And knowing that I was once his practice partner thread, I am not anymore surprised that he was able to counter every move I did with such amazing game-sense
Edit 2: that army moving right at 14:00 is really strange :D




thats pretty suspicous since he went robo tech and never built even 1 observer......yet could react to your advancements as if observers were everywhere




He does definately maphack. I also mentioned him in my previous post, he also hacked vs me, i added a replay as well.

But what can we do about it? Nothing, because production tab hacks will never be detected or punished by blizzard. It also could have been "luck" or sth else


well...we are getting them banned so I say keep posting more replays
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