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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
December 24 2012 19:06 GMT
#4201
On December 25 2012 03:01 Traumatized0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 16:07 EtherealDeath wrote:
On December 24 2012 08:14 Traumatized0 wrote:
On December 24 2012 08:07 crbox wrote:
On December 24 2012 04:19 KirA_TheGreaT wrote:
Wow really, WLHgeorge is hacker ? I crushed him lol


In general hackers are completely terrible players, except like maybe CombatEX and a few others, they have high ladder ranks because of the program they use, not because of any actual skill.

There's no real achievement in beating an hacker, though I agree it feels great sometimes.


Except WLHgeorge didn't hack... he just shared his acc with Gerudo to boost his MMR when it was Tanked still banned so w/e sharing accounts with hackers is bannable too.

Eh I'm fairly sure rts_trauma was on the list of paid users that I skimmed off the hack maker's website a while ago, so I think this guy probably hacked at one point or another, and may still do so with externals. You can even google his name and it's hacking across all manners of games. No reason to believe he would just randomly stop, especially with the replays.

Too bad their userlist is closed off to non paying people now, can't check, but I'm fairly sure.

edit - No sooner do I write this, my next game has a 2 stack of friends who troll and feed and don't help, and there is also a russian who goes 20 minute no boots.


I assume you can provide picks then lol

Oh shit so that's where my edit went. How the hell did it go to that post lol. I was in the Dota QQ thread and was like wtf, where's the edit.

And no don't have the list anymore, just running off memory based on word associations, which is why I only said pretty sure and not 100% he was on it. Not that it matters, since it's quite clear from replays that he hacks.
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
December 24 2012 22:02 GMT
#4202
On December 24 2012 04:59 HeafynK wrote:
Hacker name: CamelHumper
Server: NA
League: Masters
Description:
This guy is so obvius... he never scout he know i was going reapers and when i move my reapers he move all his army at the same direction... how is this posible. Well you will notice all those obvius moves easily.

Here ir the replay: http://drop.sc/287067


Take a look at this guy "CamelHumper" what a disgrace, definitely using maphack. No scouting whatsoever, he looks in the fog of war in multiple occasions. BLATANT HACKER.
TvT on Shakuras 22 min long game, the guy never scouted, not a single scan/unit to see what his opponent was doing yet he had a perfect army movement between his main and his natural to defend from the early pressure, killed an unseen ninja expo...so annoying to see ppl like this.
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
Erehaimu
Profile Joined August 2012
Argentina23 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-24 23:48:16
December 24 2012 23:48 GMT
#4203
Hacker name: NewChelsea
Server: North America
League: Master
Description:
No scout
Random 3 Techlab to counter reapers
Sends 3 Marauders to my constructing third which was not scouted
http://drop.sc/287403
Traumatized0
Profile Joined December 2012
10 Posts
December 24 2012 23:49 GMT
#4204
On December 25 2012 04:06 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 03:01 Traumatized0 wrote:
On December 24 2012 16:07 EtherealDeath wrote:
On December 24 2012 08:14 Traumatized0 wrote:
On December 24 2012 08:07 crbox wrote:
On December 24 2012 04:19 KirA_TheGreaT wrote:
Wow really, WLHgeorge is hacker ? I crushed him lol


In general hackers are completely terrible players, except like maybe CombatEX and a few others, they have high ladder ranks because of the program they use, not because of any actual skill.

There's no real achievement in beating an hacker, though I agree it feels great sometimes.


Except WLHgeorge didn't hack... he just shared his acc with Gerudo to boost his MMR when it was Tanked still banned so w/e sharing accounts with hackers is bannable too.

Eh I'm fairly sure rts_trauma was on the list of paid users that I skimmed off the hack maker's website a while ago, so I think this guy probably hacked at one point or another, and may still do so with externals. You can even google his name and it's hacking across all manners of games. No reason to believe he would just randomly stop, especially with the replays.

Too bad their userlist is closed off to non paying people now, can't check, but I'm fairly sure.

edit - No sooner do I write this, my next game has a 2 stack of friends who troll and feed and don't help, and there is also a russian who goes 20 minute no boots.


I assume you can provide picks then lol

Oh shit so that's where my edit went. How the hell did it go to that post lol. I was in the Dota QQ thread and was like wtf, where's the edit.

And no don't have the list anymore, just running off memory based on word associations, which is why I only said pretty sure and not 100% he was on it. Not that it matters, since it's quite clear from replays that he hacks.


so 2 replays compared to 50+ on his stream? nice. I'm sure this means he maphacks 100% of the time and didn't let someone on his account to get him from silver mmr back to masters your logic is flawless
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
December 25 2012 00:03 GMT
#4205
On December 25 2012 08:49 Traumatized0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 04:06 EtherealDeath wrote:
On December 25 2012 03:01 Traumatized0 wrote:
On December 24 2012 16:07 EtherealDeath wrote:
On December 24 2012 08:14 Traumatized0 wrote:
On December 24 2012 08:07 crbox wrote:
On December 24 2012 04:19 KirA_TheGreaT wrote:
Wow really, WLHgeorge is hacker ? I crushed him lol


In general hackers are completely terrible players, except like maybe CombatEX and a few others, they have high ladder ranks because of the program they use, not because of any actual skill.

There's no real achievement in beating an hacker, though I agree it feels great sometimes.


Except WLHgeorge didn't hack... he just shared his acc with Gerudo to boost his MMR when it was Tanked still banned so w/e sharing accounts with hackers is bannable too.

Eh I'm fairly sure rts_trauma was on the list of paid users that I skimmed off the hack maker's website a while ago, so I think this guy probably hacked at one point or another, and may still do so with externals. You can even google his name and it's hacking across all manners of games. No reason to believe he would just randomly stop, especially with the replays.

Too bad their userlist is closed off to non paying people now, can't check, but I'm fairly sure.

edit - No sooner do I write this, my next game has a 2 stack of friends who troll and feed and don't help, and there is also a russian who goes 20 minute no boots.


I assume you can provide picks then lol

Oh shit so that's where my edit went. How the hell did it go to that post lol. I was in the Dota QQ thread and was like wtf, where's the edit.

And no don't have the list anymore, just running off memory based on word associations, which is why I only said pretty sure and not 100% he was on it. Not that it matters, since it's quite clear from replays that he hacks.


so 2 replays compared to 50+ on his stream? nice. I'm sure this means he maphacks 100% of the time and didn't let someone on his account to get him from silver mmr back to masters your logic is flawless

Dude the guy is quite obviously running an external maphack unless he has the most absurd luck ever. Go watch his stream. You will see a huge number of proxy 2 gate on 4 players maps, and he is never on wrong on their location.

You may notice he is using game capture instead of window capture, so there's no way to see what other programs he is running. He also has an external monitor which is running something of interest to him during games, as you can tell by the light from the second monitor and his eye movements. Of course he could just be watching youtube or something, but the fact that he never misses a proxy 2 gate is very telling. He even tries to explain it sometimes, saying he calls out the spawn position before the game starts to people who accuse him of hacking, and then directs them to his stream, but you can see in the relevant games that he does not in fact do this.
Traumatized0
Profile Joined December 2012
10 Posts
December 25 2012 00:06 GMT
#4206
On December 25 2012 09:03 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 08:49 Traumatized0 wrote:
On December 25 2012 04:06 EtherealDeath wrote:
On December 25 2012 03:01 Traumatized0 wrote:
On December 24 2012 16:07 EtherealDeath wrote:
On December 24 2012 08:14 Traumatized0 wrote:
On December 24 2012 08:07 crbox wrote:
On December 24 2012 04:19 KirA_TheGreaT wrote:
Wow really, WLHgeorge is hacker ? I crushed him lol


In general hackers are completely terrible players, except like maybe CombatEX and a few others, they have high ladder ranks because of the program they use, not because of any actual skill.

There's no real achievement in beating an hacker, though I agree it feels great sometimes.


Except WLHgeorge didn't hack... he just shared his acc with Gerudo to boost his MMR when it was Tanked still banned so w/e sharing accounts with hackers is bannable too.

Eh I'm fairly sure rts_trauma was on the list of paid users that I skimmed off the hack maker's website a while ago, so I think this guy probably hacked at one point or another, and may still do so with externals. You can even google his name and it's hacking across all manners of games. No reason to believe he would just randomly stop, especially with the replays.

Too bad their userlist is closed off to non paying people now, can't check, but I'm fairly sure.

edit - No sooner do I write this, my next game has a 2 stack of friends who troll and feed and don't help, and there is also a russian who goes 20 minute no boots.


I assume you can provide picks then lol

Oh shit so that's where my edit went. How the hell did it go to that post lol. I was in the Dota QQ thread and was like wtf, where's the edit.

And no don't have the list anymore, just running off memory based on word associations, which is why I only said pretty sure and not 100% he was on it. Not that it matters, since it's quite clear from replays that he hacks.


so 2 replays compared to 50+ on his stream? nice. I'm sure this means he maphacks 100% of the time and didn't let someone on his account to get him from silver mmr back to masters your logic is flawless

Dude the guy is quite obviously running an external maphack unless he has the most absurd luck ever. Go watch his stream. You will see a huge number of proxy 2 gate on 4 players maps, and he is never on wrong on their location.

You may notice he is using game capture instead of window capture, so there's no way to see what other programs he is running. He also has an external monitor which is running something of interest to him during games, as you can tell by the light from the second monitor and his eye movements. Of course he could just be watching youtube or something, but the fact that he never misses a proxy 2 gate is very telling. He even tries to explain it sometimes, saying he calls out the spawn position before the game starts to people who accuse him of hacking, and then directs them to his stream, but you can see in the relevant games that he does not in fact do this.



He is never wrong... except the times he is wrong, I agree.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
December 25 2012 00:30 GMT
#4207
the games posted in the thread are both from ladder and clanwars.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
mindjames
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Israel433 Posts
December 25 2012 01:35 GMT
#4208
On December 25 2012 09:06 Traumatized0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 09:03 EtherealDeath wrote:
On December 25 2012 08:49 Traumatized0 wrote:
On December 25 2012 04:06 EtherealDeath wrote:
On December 25 2012 03:01 Traumatized0 wrote:
On December 24 2012 16:07 EtherealDeath wrote:
On December 24 2012 08:14 Traumatized0 wrote:
On December 24 2012 08:07 crbox wrote:
On December 24 2012 04:19 KirA_TheGreaT wrote:
Wow really, WLHgeorge is hacker ? I crushed him lol


In general hackers are completely terrible players, except like maybe CombatEX and a few others, they have high ladder ranks because of the program they use, not because of any actual skill.

There's no real achievement in beating an hacker, though I agree it feels great sometimes.


Except WLHgeorge didn't hack... he just shared his acc with Gerudo to boost his MMR when it was Tanked still banned so w/e sharing accounts with hackers is bannable too.

Eh I'm fairly sure rts_trauma was on the list of paid users that I skimmed off the hack maker's website a while ago, so I think this guy probably hacked at one point or another, and may still do so with externals. You can even google his name and it's hacking across all manners of games. No reason to believe he would just randomly stop, especially with the replays.

Too bad their userlist is closed off to non paying people now, can't check, but I'm fairly sure.

edit - No sooner do I write this, my next game has a 2 stack of friends who troll and feed and don't help, and there is also a russian who goes 20 minute no boots.


I assume you can provide picks then lol

Oh shit so that's where my edit went. How the hell did it go to that post lol. I was in the Dota QQ thread and was like wtf, where's the edit.

And no don't have the list anymore, just running off memory based on word associations, which is why I only said pretty sure and not 100% he was on it. Not that it matters, since it's quite clear from replays that he hacks.


so 2 replays compared to 50+ on his stream? nice. I'm sure this means he maphacks 100% of the time and didn't let someone on his account to get him from silver mmr back to masters your logic is flawless

Dude the guy is quite obviously running an external maphack unless he has the most absurd luck ever. Go watch his stream. You will see a huge number of proxy 2 gate on 4 players maps, and he is never on wrong on their location.

You may notice he is using game capture instead of window capture, so there's no way to see what other programs he is running. He also has an external monitor which is running something of interest to him during games, as you can tell by the light from the second monitor and his eye movements. Of course he could just be watching youtube or something, but the fact that he never misses a proxy 2 gate is very telling. He even tries to explain it sometimes, saying he calls out the spawn position before the game starts to people who accuse him of hacking, and then directs them to his stream, but you can see in the relevant games that he does not in fact do this.



He is never wrong... except the times he is wrong, I agree.

Give it a rest, George.

P.S.
I like your builds, particularly your PvP nexus first into blind double robo immortal into blind warp prism snipe into 0 anti-air deathball into bad macro, into masters league. The no scout version.
kukarachaa
Profile Joined February 2011
United States284 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-25 01:42:07
December 25 2012 01:41 GMT
#4209
Just played some dude TsuWoo high masters NA, pretty blatant map hacking wasn't trying to conceal it or anything, constantly looking at my base through fog of war.
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
December 25 2012 01:55 GMT
#4210
Traumatized, even if it was somehow true that he just let a hacker use it - well, that's just as fucking bad, and he deserves to be on this list.
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
December 25 2012 01:59 GMT
#4211
His name has the word trauma, and his only post have been defending someone named trauma.

I think hes on the list for a reason.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Bannt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States73 Posts
December 25 2012 03:42 GMT
#4212
On December 25 2012 10:41 kukarachaa wrote:
Just played some dude TsuWoo high masters NA, pretty blatant map hacking wasn't trying to conceal it or anything, constantly looking at my base through fog of war.



I second the TsuWoo accusation. I have a pretty damning replay of him obviously looking at relevent tech through fog of war. And in a zvz, i go for a baneling attack, he looks at my morphing banelings with no vision, sends two banelings of his own directly to their location and splits them to intercept. All without vision. Can post replay if needed.
Buffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden665 Posts
December 25 2012 05:09 GMT
#4213
Not to sound whiny or anything, but have anyone checked on the replays me and Diestar added ? We both reported the same guy for maphack and seems as either everyone forgot to look at those or just didnt feel like mentioning them, would appriciate if anyone could please take a look !
Yes I am
Traumatized0
Profile Joined December 2012
10 Posts
December 25 2012 15:24 GMT
#4214
On December 25 2012 10:59 PanN wrote:
His name has the word trauma, and his only post have been defending someone named trauma.

I think hes on the list for a reason.



My first post was reporting an obvious maphacker, which everyone seems to have ignored actually. (page 210)
loko1275
Profile Joined June 2012
11 Posts
December 25 2012 15:35 GMT
#4215
Hacker name: Dysphoria
Server: EU
League: Master
Description:
Makes vikings for no reason
at 13min40 he pulls vcs to his wall for no reason (my army is incoming but he can't see it)
http://drop.sc/286923

(on drop.sc i saw other replays from him and he's called Etna in the chat, so i think he just used his rename)

merry xmas
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
December 25 2012 15:52 GMT
#4216
On December 25 2012 14:09 Buffy wrote:
Not to sound whiny or anything, but have anyone checked on the replays me and Diestar added ? We both reported the same guy for maphack and seems as either everyone forgot to look at those or just didnt feel like mentioning them, would appriciate if anyone could please take a look !


i wrote in my recent op update that i would not be updating the list this week because i am away from my pc on vacation. i'll check them out when i get back. don't worry, keep posting.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
December 25 2012 15:55 GMT
#4217
On December 25 2012 12:42 Bannt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 10:41 kukarachaa wrote:
Just played some dude TsuWoo high masters NA, pretty blatant map hacking wasn't trying to conceal it or anything, constantly looking at my base through fog of war.



I second the TsuWoo accusation. I have a pretty damning replay of him obviously looking at relevent tech through fog of war. And in a zvz, i go for a baneling attack, he looks at my morphing banelings with no vision, sends two banelings of his own directly to their location and splits them to intercept. All without vision. Can post replay if needed.


please do.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
December 25 2012 16:08 GMT
#4218
On December 25 2012 10:41 kukarachaa wrote:
Just played some dude TsuWoo high masters NA, pretty blatant map hacking wasn't trying to conceal it or anything, constantly looking at my base through fog of war.


please provide the replay of the game in question if you want to contribute to him being listed.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Natalya
Profile Joined December 2011
Belgium287 Posts
December 25 2012 16:56 GMT
#4219
Hey guys i was just wondering, is there any estimation of the proportion of players who actually hack? Is it 1%? 5%? I've never been aware of playing against a hacker and i wonder if there's a chance i already played them without noticing.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-25 17:13:16
December 25 2012 17:00 GMT
#4220
On December 26 2012 00:24 Traumatized0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 10:59 PanN wrote:
His name has the word trauma, and his only post have been defending someone named trauma.

I think hes on the list for a reason.



My first post was reporting an obvious maphacker, which everyone seems to have ignored actually. (page 210)


Doesn't change the fact that 90%+ of your posts have been dedicated to defending someone thats an obvious hacker does it? No, it doesn't.

Also, in one of rts_traumas vods, he accuses someone of maphack, and goes over the replay, with your flawless logic, that should mean he is in fact not a hacker right?

Oh wait!
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
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