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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.
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On December 25 2012 03:01 Traumatized0 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2012 16:07 EtherealDeath wrote:On December 24 2012 08:14 Traumatized0 wrote:On December 24 2012 08:07 crbox wrote:On December 24 2012 04:19 KirA_TheGreaT wrote: Wow really, WLHgeorge is hacker ? I crushed him lol In general hackers are completely terrible players, except like maybe CombatEX and a few others, they have high ladder ranks because of the program they use, not because of any actual skill. There's no real achievement in beating an hacker, though I agree it feels great sometimes. Except WLHgeorge didn't hack... he just shared his acc with Gerudo to boost his MMR when it was Tanked ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) still banned so w/e sharing accounts with hackers is bannable too. Eh I'm fairly sure rts_trauma was on the list of paid users that I skimmed off the hack maker's website a while ago, so I think this guy probably hacked at one point or another, and may still do so with externals. You can even google his name and it's hacking across all manners of games. No reason to believe he would just randomly stop, especially with the replays. Too bad their userlist is closed off to non paying people now, can't check, but I'm fairly sure. edit - No sooner do I write this, my next game has a 2 stack of friends who troll and feed and don't help, and there is also a russian who goes 20 minute no boots. I assume you can provide picks then lol ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) Oh shit so that's where my edit went. How the hell did it go to that post lol. I was in the Dota QQ thread and was like wtf, where's the edit.
And no don't have the list anymore, just running off memory based on word associations, which is why I only said pretty sure and not 100% he was on it. Not that it matters, since it's quite clear from replays that he hacks.
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On December 24 2012 04:59 HeafynK wrote:Hacker name: CamelHumper Server: NA League: Masters Description: This guy is so obvius... he never scout he know i was going reapers and when i move my reapers he move all his army at the same direction... how is this posible. Well you will notice all those obvius moves easily. Here ir the replay: http://drop.sc/287067
Take a look at this guy "CamelHumper" what a disgrace, definitely using maphack. No scouting whatsoever, he looks in the fog of war in multiple occasions. BLATANT HACKER. TvT on Shakuras 22 min long game, the guy never scouted, not a single scan/unit to see what his opponent was doing yet he had a perfect army movement between his main and his natural to defend from the early pressure, killed an unseen ninja expo...so annoying to see ppl like this.
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Hacker name: NewChelsea Server: North America League: Master Description: No scout Random 3 Techlab to counter reapers Sends 3 Marauders to my constructing third which was not scouted http://drop.sc/287403
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On December 25 2012 04:06 EtherealDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 03:01 Traumatized0 wrote:On December 24 2012 16:07 EtherealDeath wrote:On December 24 2012 08:14 Traumatized0 wrote:On December 24 2012 08:07 crbox wrote:On December 24 2012 04:19 KirA_TheGreaT wrote: Wow really, WLHgeorge is hacker ? I crushed him lol In general hackers are completely terrible players, except like maybe CombatEX and a few others, they have high ladder ranks because of the program they use, not because of any actual skill. There's no real achievement in beating an hacker, though I agree it feels great sometimes. Except WLHgeorge didn't hack... he just shared his acc with Gerudo to boost his MMR when it was Tanked ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) still banned so w/e sharing accounts with hackers is bannable too. Eh I'm fairly sure rts_trauma was on the list of paid users that I skimmed off the hack maker's website a while ago, so I think this guy probably hacked at one point or another, and may still do so with externals. You can even google his name and it's hacking across all manners of games. No reason to believe he would just randomly stop, especially with the replays. Too bad their userlist is closed off to non paying people now, can't check, but I'm fairly sure. edit - No sooner do I write this, my next game has a 2 stack of friends who troll and feed and don't help, and there is also a russian who goes 20 minute no boots. I assume you can provide picks then lol ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) Oh shit so that's where my edit went. How the hell did it go to that post lol. I was in the Dota QQ thread and was like wtf, where's the edit. And no don't have the list anymore, just running off memory based on word associations, which is why I only said pretty sure and not 100% he was on it. Not that it matters, since it's quite clear from replays that he hacks.
so 2 replays compared to 50+ on his stream? nice. I'm sure this means he maphacks 100% of the time and didn't let someone on his account to get him from silver mmr back to masters your logic is flawless
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On December 25 2012 08:49 Traumatized0 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 04:06 EtherealDeath wrote:On December 25 2012 03:01 Traumatized0 wrote:On December 24 2012 16:07 EtherealDeath wrote:On December 24 2012 08:14 Traumatized0 wrote:On December 24 2012 08:07 crbox wrote:On December 24 2012 04:19 KirA_TheGreaT wrote: Wow really, WLHgeorge is hacker ? I crushed him lol In general hackers are completely terrible players, except like maybe CombatEX and a few others, they have high ladder ranks because of the program they use, not because of any actual skill. There's no real achievement in beating an hacker, though I agree it feels great sometimes. Except WLHgeorge didn't hack... he just shared his acc with Gerudo to boost his MMR when it was Tanked ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) still banned so w/e sharing accounts with hackers is bannable too. Eh I'm fairly sure rts_trauma was on the list of paid users that I skimmed off the hack maker's website a while ago, so I think this guy probably hacked at one point or another, and may still do so with externals. You can even google his name and it's hacking across all manners of games. No reason to believe he would just randomly stop, especially with the replays. Too bad their userlist is closed off to non paying people now, can't check, but I'm fairly sure. edit - No sooner do I write this, my next game has a 2 stack of friends who troll and feed and don't help, and there is also a russian who goes 20 minute no boots. I assume you can provide picks then lol ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) Oh shit so that's where my edit went. How the hell did it go to that post lol. I was in the Dota QQ thread and was like wtf, where's the edit. And no don't have the list anymore, just running off memory based on word associations, which is why I only said pretty sure and not 100% he was on it. Not that it matters, since it's quite clear from replays that he hacks. so 2 replays compared to 50+ on his stream? nice. I'm sure this means he maphacks 100% of the time and didn't let someone on his account to get him from silver mmr back to masters ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) your logic is flawless Dude the guy is quite obviously running an external maphack unless he has the most absurd luck ever. Go watch his stream. You will see a huge number of proxy 2 gate on 4 players maps, and he is never on wrong on their location.
You may notice he is using game capture instead of window capture, so there's no way to see what other programs he is running. He also has an external monitor which is running something of interest to him during games, as you can tell by the light from the second monitor and his eye movements. Of course he could just be watching youtube or something, but the fact that he never misses a proxy 2 gate is very telling. He even tries to explain it sometimes, saying he calls out the spawn position before the game starts to people who accuse him of hacking, and then directs them to his stream, but you can see in the relevant games that he does not in fact do this.
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On December 25 2012 09:03 EtherealDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 08:49 Traumatized0 wrote:On December 25 2012 04:06 EtherealDeath wrote:On December 25 2012 03:01 Traumatized0 wrote:On December 24 2012 16:07 EtherealDeath wrote:On December 24 2012 08:14 Traumatized0 wrote:On December 24 2012 08:07 crbox wrote:On December 24 2012 04:19 KirA_TheGreaT wrote: Wow really, WLHgeorge is hacker ? I crushed him lol In general hackers are completely terrible players, except like maybe CombatEX and a few others, they have high ladder ranks because of the program they use, not because of any actual skill. There's no real achievement in beating an hacker, though I agree it feels great sometimes. Except WLHgeorge didn't hack... he just shared his acc with Gerudo to boost his MMR when it was Tanked ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) still banned so w/e sharing accounts with hackers is bannable too. Eh I'm fairly sure rts_trauma was on the list of paid users that I skimmed off the hack maker's website a while ago, so I think this guy probably hacked at one point or another, and may still do so with externals. You can even google his name and it's hacking across all manners of games. No reason to believe he would just randomly stop, especially with the replays. Too bad their userlist is closed off to non paying people now, can't check, but I'm fairly sure. edit - No sooner do I write this, my next game has a 2 stack of friends who troll and feed and don't help, and there is also a russian who goes 20 minute no boots. I assume you can provide picks then lol ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) Oh shit so that's where my edit went. How the hell did it go to that post lol. I was in the Dota QQ thread and was like wtf, where's the edit. And no don't have the list anymore, just running off memory based on word associations, which is why I only said pretty sure and not 100% he was on it. Not that it matters, since it's quite clear from replays that he hacks. so 2 replays compared to 50+ on his stream? nice. I'm sure this means he maphacks 100% of the time and didn't let someone on his account to get him from silver mmr back to masters ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) your logic is flawless Dude the guy is quite obviously running an external maphack unless he has the most absurd luck ever. Go watch his stream. You will see a huge number of proxy 2 gate on 4 players maps, and he is never on wrong on their location. You may notice he is using game capture instead of window capture, so there's no way to see what other programs he is running. He also has an external monitor which is running something of interest to him during games, as you can tell by the light from the second monitor and his eye movements. Of course he could just be watching youtube or something, but the fact that he never misses a proxy 2 gate is very telling. He even tries to explain it sometimes, saying he calls out the spawn position before the game starts to people who accuse him of hacking, and then directs them to his stream, but you can see in the relevant games that he does not in fact do this.
He is never wrong... except the times he is wrong, I agree.
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the games posted in the thread are both from ladder and clanwars.
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On December 25 2012 09:06 Traumatized0 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 09:03 EtherealDeath wrote:On December 25 2012 08:49 Traumatized0 wrote:On December 25 2012 04:06 EtherealDeath wrote:On December 25 2012 03:01 Traumatized0 wrote:On December 24 2012 16:07 EtherealDeath wrote:On December 24 2012 08:14 Traumatized0 wrote:On December 24 2012 08:07 crbox wrote:On December 24 2012 04:19 KirA_TheGreaT wrote: Wow really, WLHgeorge is hacker ? I crushed him lol In general hackers are completely terrible players, except like maybe CombatEX and a few others, they have high ladder ranks because of the program they use, not because of any actual skill. There's no real achievement in beating an hacker, though I agree it feels great sometimes. Except WLHgeorge didn't hack... he just shared his acc with Gerudo to boost his MMR when it was Tanked ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) still banned so w/e sharing accounts with hackers is bannable too. Eh I'm fairly sure rts_trauma was on the list of paid users that I skimmed off the hack maker's website a while ago, so I think this guy probably hacked at one point or another, and may still do so with externals. You can even google his name and it's hacking across all manners of games. No reason to believe he would just randomly stop, especially with the replays. Too bad their userlist is closed off to non paying people now, can't check, but I'm fairly sure. edit - No sooner do I write this, my next game has a 2 stack of friends who troll and feed and don't help, and there is also a russian who goes 20 minute no boots. I assume you can provide picks then lol ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) Oh shit so that's where my edit went. How the hell did it go to that post lol. I was in the Dota QQ thread and was like wtf, where's the edit. And no don't have the list anymore, just running off memory based on word associations, which is why I only said pretty sure and not 100% he was on it. Not that it matters, since it's quite clear from replays that he hacks. so 2 replays compared to 50+ on his stream? nice. I'm sure this means he maphacks 100% of the time and didn't let someone on his account to get him from silver mmr back to masters ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) your logic is flawless Dude the guy is quite obviously running an external maphack unless he has the most absurd luck ever. Go watch his stream. You will see a huge number of proxy 2 gate on 4 players maps, and he is never on wrong on their location. You may notice he is using game capture instead of window capture, so there's no way to see what other programs he is running. He also has an external monitor which is running something of interest to him during games, as you can tell by the light from the second monitor and his eye movements. Of course he could just be watching youtube or something, but the fact that he never misses a proxy 2 gate is very telling. He even tries to explain it sometimes, saying he calls out the spawn position before the game starts to people who accuse him of hacking, and then directs them to his stream, but you can see in the relevant games that he does not in fact do this. He is never wrong... except the times he is wrong, I agree. Give it a rest, George.
P.S. I like your builds, particularly your PvP nexus first into blind double robo immortal into blind warp prism snipe into 0 anti-air deathball into bad macro, into masters league. The no scout version.
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Just played some dude TsuWoo high masters NA, pretty blatant map hacking wasn't trying to conceal it or anything, constantly looking at my base through fog of war.
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Traumatized, even if it was somehow true that he just let a hacker use it - well, that's just as fucking bad, and he deserves to be on this list.
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His name has the word trauma, and his only post have been defending someone named trauma.
I think hes on the list for a reason.
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On December 25 2012 10:41 kukarachaa wrote: Just played some dude TsuWoo high masters NA, pretty blatant map hacking wasn't trying to conceal it or anything, constantly looking at my base through fog of war.
I second the TsuWoo accusation. I have a pretty damning replay of him obviously looking at relevent tech through fog of war. And in a zvz, i go for a baneling attack, he looks at my morphing banelings with no vision, sends two banelings of his own directly to their location and splits them to intercept. All without vision. Can post replay if needed.
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Not to sound whiny or anything, but have anyone checked on the replays me and Diestar added ? We both reported the same guy for maphack and seems as either everyone forgot to look at those or just didnt feel like mentioning them, would appriciate if anyone could please take a look !
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On December 25 2012 10:59 PanN wrote: His name has the word trauma, and his only post have been defending someone named trauma.
I think hes on the list for a reason.
My first post was reporting an obvious maphacker, which everyone seems to have ignored actually. (page 210)
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Hacker name: Dysphoria Server: EU League: Master Description: Makes vikings for no reason at 13min40 he pulls vcs to his wall for no reason (my army is incoming but he can't see it) http://drop.sc/286923
(on drop.sc i saw other replays from him and he's called Etna in the chat, so i think he just used his rename)
merry xmas ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
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On December 25 2012 14:09 Buffy wrote: Not to sound whiny or anything, but have anyone checked on the replays me and Diestar added ? We both reported the same guy for maphack and seems as either everyone forgot to look at those or just didnt feel like mentioning them, would appriciate if anyone could please take a look !
i wrote in my recent op update that i would not be updating the list this week because i am away from my pc on vacation. i'll check them out when i get back. don't worry, keep posting.
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On December 25 2012 12:42 Bannt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 10:41 kukarachaa wrote: Just played some dude TsuWoo high masters NA, pretty blatant map hacking wasn't trying to conceal it or anything, constantly looking at my base through fog of war. I second the TsuWoo accusation. I have a pretty damning replay of him obviously looking at relevent tech through fog of war. And in a zvz, i go for a baneling attack, he looks at my morphing banelings with no vision, sends two banelings of his own directly to their location and splits them to intercept. All without vision. Can post replay if needed.
please do.
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On December 25 2012 10:41 kukarachaa wrote: Just played some dude TsuWoo high masters NA, pretty blatant map hacking wasn't trying to conceal it or anything, constantly looking at my base through fog of war.
please provide the replay of the game in question if you want to contribute to him being listed.
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Hey guys i was just wondering, is there any estimation of the proportion of players who actually hack? Is it 1%? 5%? I've never been aware of playing against a hacker and i wonder if there's a chance i already played them without noticing.
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On December 26 2012 00:24 Traumatized0 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 10:59 PanN wrote: His name has the word trauma, and his only post have been defending someone named trauma.
I think hes on the list for a reason. My first post was reporting an obvious maphacker, which everyone seems to have ignored actually. (page 210)
Doesn't change the fact that 90%+ of your posts have been dedicated to defending someone thats an obvious hacker does it? No, it doesn't.
Also, in one of rts_traumas vods, he accuses someone of maphack, and goes over the replay, with your flawless logic, that should mean he is in fact not a hacker right?
Oh wait!
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