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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody. Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence. | ||
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Ichobicho
Norway79 Posts
Server: EU League: high master Description: He reacts perfectly and move his stalkers all game according to muta movement, even though he never has vision of them (quite obvious). A few times he moves his stalkers from his 3rd to his nat, cause the muta are moving there, although he never sees them before they are in the nat. Game was played earlier today. http://drop.sc/288677 | ||
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
if he hasnt already been listed as hacking in hots then i can find the replay probably | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
 DuffgirlServer: EU League: master, points, wins / losses Description: Duffgirl (z, top left) vs Mekar (p, bot right) @ entombed valley @2:46 looks into Mekars base through FOW. is 6 pooling and sending lings cross map. @11:10 looks into fow. @13:30 is going for a baneling bust, but gets scouted and mekar walls off his ramp. pulls back without ever scouting mekars ramp. @15:47 going up to 3 queens before scouting void (on 19 drones and 2 base). Duffgirl (z, bot right) vs LeeSsang (t, bot left) @ shakuras plateu @1:22 looks into fow and sends drone bot left, even though ovi is also on the way bot left. @2:00 diverts ovi even before reaching main, breaches into it. @4:07 looks into fow at hidden rax started with initial scouted scv at top right main and sends lings there. @4:24 sends ling to another hidden rax at the third of leesang. On November 29 2012 06:08 ASGuerrero wrote: I was playing 1v1 ladder Master League with this guy Duffygirl and got 6 pool lings/drones rushed. Until this part, everything is normal. But, after checking the replay, I found myself in player's view mode (Duffgirl), Entombed Valley - 4 position map - and just seeing him moving around in my main and preparing rally points directly to my base without any kind of scout (even the overlord he purposely send it in the other way). Then I checked his match history and what I saw? 3 or 4 wins in a row with the same tactic IN THE SAME 4 POSITION KIND OF MAPS. Duffygirl vs AGSlave (my replay): http://drop.sc/279693 Duffygirl vs Kawa: http://drop.sc/279682 (and I'm still waiting for Dantirius replay) On December 28 2012 07:48 OminouS wrote: Duffgirl, 1600~ Masters Zerg on EU that apparently 6pools every game. Map was Antiga, sent lings + drones straigth to my base, didn't even bother to scout the other two bases with overlord. http://drop.sc/288557 | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
 EGldraServer: NA League: master, 1288 points, 33 wins / 40 losses Description: Soloturtle (p, top left) vs EGldra (t, bot right) @ ohana le @3:39 autoscv prod @4:13 autoscv prod @4:32 autoscv prod @7:51 automule ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5wr3t.png) @7:55 impossible selection and autoscv, and an autoscv, note 101e0 is his main cc. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SbXQt.png) | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
 IIIIIIIIIIServer: EU League: grandmaster, 1348 points, 215 wins / 154 losses Description: IIIIIIIIIIII (p, bot left) vs Noispaxen (z, top right) @ daybreak @3:08 is going nex forge inbase, gate, no probescout. @6:10 camera sits for a while (~5 secs) below his nex, followed by a quick jump to Noispaxens base and then back to his front. still no scouting. at this point nois is streaming lings cross map. @6:33 starts a second cannon and sends the stalker to block before the lings are in vision. IIIIIIIIIIII (p, top right) vs Maismz (z, top left) @ entombed valley @3:38 scouts top left after going nex, forge, gate, cannon. @7:03 peek towards Mais lings in FOW outside his ramp. @7:15 without having any scouting intel other than seeing the natural hatchery he cancels stargate, tarts up 2 more cannons at his front, walls off completely. Mais is making a lot of lings, has some outside his front, getting drops and banenest. even builds cannons in his main. @8:19 moves his units into the main and warps in there. is looking at where the drops are entering. @9:23 looks into fog of war at 3 constructing spines. a gm protoss who never scouts and reactively blind counters his opponents with both build and unit movements and peeks into FOW. especially the turn around in game 2 vs Mais, where he's moving towards stargate tech, then completely turns around and fortifies his base with no scouting intel, moves units into position for drop and warps in there as well. no doubt that this is a hacker. Note: previously IIIIIIIIIIII. | ||
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RazerRapter
Germany7 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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Cokefreak
Finland8095 Posts
On December 29 2012 20:54 RazerRapter wrote: Hacker name: AReS Server: EU League: grandmaster top 50 Description: He attacks my proxy rax without even scouting it and rallys the zerglings without scouting it We need a replay please. You can upload it to drop.sc | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
LPGTtSultanServer: EU League: gm, 897 points, 129 wins / 84 losses Description: LPGTtSultan (p, bot left) vs POCHAHONTAS (z, top right) @ cloud kingdom opens nex, forge, gate, no scout. @6:30 POCHAHONTAS going for 7 roaches, blindly puts down 3 cannons at front. @9:27 long look into fow. LPGttSultan (p, top right) vs DieStar (t, bot left) @ cloud kingdom @3:43 tries to dodge incoming scv with no vision of it. goes 1 gate exp into forge, DieStar is doing 2 rax with conc. @5:00 starts up two cannons at his nat. @5:30 going up to 4 cannons. still no scouting info at all. @11:05 moves his entire army into the main where a double drop is coming. LPGttSultan (p, bot left) vs Katio (p, top right) @ daybreak @7:32 long look into FOW. @15:30 has no map vision and no observer, blindly moves his army to his third as Katio is attacking into it. Conclusion: never scouting as gm, blind army movement and blindly adding cannons is particularly revealing, i would say those are fairly conclusive. just checked his match history and he went two gate when 6 pooled, which is funny since he never seems to probescout. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/W3heD.png) | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
MilliAttoServer: EU League: master, 1629 points, 210 wins / 180 losses Description: AposisIcho (z, bot left) vs MilliAtto (p, top right) @ cloud kingdom MilliAtto opens with nex gate forge, goes for a quick gateway timing and kills Icho's third, but gets pushed back. @12:16 blindly making 6 cannons and chronoing blink. he has only seen speedlings. @13:20 moves all his stalkers into the main where mutas attack from. is completely blind, obs sitting at his natural nexus. @14:16 looks into FOW at lings. @14:39 is clearing overlord at his third with non stalker, moves back with those and moves stalkers out, icho is attacking with muta ling up nat ramp @15:49 is looking at edge of FOW when and where mutas fly in at natural. @17:43 spamclicking his stalkers into FOW where mutas are outside his third. he is still completely blind. @19:50 runs all his stalkers from his third to his natural where mutas are moving, completely blind. would like more reps, just to be absolutely sure, but i don't think you can be that lucky with your army movement. | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
ThylacineServer: EU League: master, 703 points, 18 wins / 19 losses Description: Thylacine (t, top right) vs Kesella (z, top left) @ entombed valley @1:51 blindly sends three scvs to top right, as Kesella's scouting drone walks down his natural ramp, Thylacine pulls his 3 scvs away. @2:05 looking into fog of war, when hatch is placed he sends up his scvs to block ramp with raxes. korona regarding thylacine / tl account: Edit: It is likely (even if not for certain) that it is his account. On other thread he expressed his interest on 'practice buddy search engine': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=335250#6 . I searched 'Thylacine' from that service and got one hit (Thylacine.771): http://scvrush.com/users/6882-thylacine . I added that account as character friend in SC2 client and that account matched the replay's account. Edit2: It might also be that the previous is not his or he has several accounts with same name. In this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=355984 he reports a _different_ 'Thylacine' -named account to be his. | ||
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GodOfWarAReS
Germany105 Posts
On December 29 2012 20:54 RazerRapter wrote: Hacker name: AReS Server: EU League: grandmaster top 50 Description: He attacks my proxy rax without even scouting it and rallys the zerglings without scouting it oh wow seriously? i would like to see a replay of that too. i guess your duffgirl -.- and btw you ever playd a 2 rax?? i cant rally zerglings to your raxes intime to kill them except i go pool before hatch. check my match history i never do this in zvt. tell me your ingame name -.- i would thank you very much if you would remove his post after realizing that i dont maphack. | ||
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FallY
Germany7 Posts
[QUOTE]On December 29 2012 20:54 RazerRapter wrote: Hacker name: AReS Server: EU League: grandmaster top 50 Description: He attacks my proxy rax without even scouting it and rallys the zerglings without scouting it[/QUOTE] wanna see replay too | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
On December 29 2012 22:04 GodOfWarAReS wrote: oh wow seriously? i would like to see a replay of that too. i guess your duffgirl -.- and btw you ever playd a 2 rax?? i cant rally zerglings to your raxes intime to kill them except i go pool before hatch. check my match history i never do this in zvt. tell me your ingame name -.- i would thank you very much if you would remove his post after realizing that i dont maphack. you can report it to mods if you feel if it has malicious intent, i am powerless. | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
RiskiServer: EU League: master, 1241 points, 44 wins / 22 losses Description: Riski (t, bot left) vs Pikachu (t, top left) @ antiga shipyard @7:12 impossible selection, auto scvprod. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/v3ttZ.jpg) @7:31 impossible selection, auto scvprod. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/FmwzP.jpg) @8:17 impossible selection, auto scvprod. note 103d4 is his natural orbital. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/o59CZ.jpg) there is blindly knowing spawn, blind army movement etc etc as well, but it's purely of academic interest at this point.. | ||
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Adonminus
Israel543 Posts
I want to tell you one story, long time ago a player tried to cannon rush me on a 4p map, he was trying to be greedy so he didn't scout completely and know what happened? He cannon rushed the wrong main and then was forced to gg and I won the game. But imagine if he guessed right? Would that mean he is maphacker, no it wouldn't. So I believe we should have at least 2 replays to prove a player is a maphacker. | ||
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GodOfWarAReS
Germany105 Posts
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Kaitokid
Germany1327 Posts
On December 29 2012 22:27 Adonminus wrote: Why accuse a grandmaster player without even providing a replay? And even if you do, one replay cannot prove that a person hacks unless it's the most obvious hacking possible. I want to tell you one story, long time ago a player tried to cannon rush me on a 4p map, he was trying to be greedy so he didn't scout completely and know what happened? He cannon rushed the wrong main and then was forced to gg and I won the game. But imagine if he guessed right? Would that mean he is maphacker, no it wouldn't. So I believe we should have at least 2 replays to prove a player is a maphacker. while this is true theres no reason to not bring something fishy like that up, but of course he should be less direct about it without close to 100% prove. that being said the accusation against AReS seems pretty ridiculous without a replay. I've played AReS a few times and he never seemed like a maphacker to me aswell, but I guess if the guy provides a replay for his claim its at least worth looking into even if its just 1 and not 2 replays.. 2 replays is probably not enough either, but once there is a suspicion its easy to get more replays of a specific player | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
On December 29 2012 22:27 GodOfWarAReS wrote: mods?? how i can contact them? and y i can send you replays of all my games the last days. i think its duffgirl because i insult him because he maphacked. he told me that everyone can write in this channel that someone uses maphacks. so i guess its him. it's the second time that account has made an accusation without posting replay. last time it was just some barcode's name. the mods will take care of it in due time, don't worry. | ||
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GodOfWarAReS
Germany105 Posts
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
On December 29 2012 22:31 Kaitokid wrote: while this is true theres no reason to not bring something fishy like that up, but of course he should be less direct about it without close to 100% prove. that being said the accusation against AReS seems pretty ridiculous without a replay. I've played AReS a few times and he never seemed like a maphacker to me aswell, but I guess if the guy provides a replay for his claim its at least worth looking into even if its just 1 and not 2 replays.. 2 replays is probably not enough either, but once there is a suspicion its easy to get more replays of a specific player i wouldn't discourage anyone from posting replays they find suspicious, even if it is just one and their opponent is GM. in some cases you don't need more than 1 replay to prove someone is using hacks. i feel Adonminus' animosity is a bit misplaced, and it's probably in the heat of the moment. i think the mods warn (and will probably ban if repeated) for posting accusations without replays. i think it's good to thread more carefully when you post though, like katio says. i often catch myself jumping the gun a bit. for now i reported his post, citing that it's the second time he posts without accusation without replay. AReS doesn't have enough posts to report i think. | ||
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