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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 13:00:53
December 23 2012 12:36 GMT
#4181
On December 23 2012 18:50 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Here's one for the century.

This guy:
Carnicero - NA server Master league
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1607181/1/CARNICERO/

But he can't win a game to save his life. His match history is always Versus a Silver or gold leaguer, and he has 16 wins to 90 (NINETY!!!) Losses. Yet he is still in Masters league.

Is this some sort of new hack?

Not a hack, but you can report him for MMR abuse.

Since start of the S9 Blizzard changed promotion/demotion rules. For example rule "A player can also be instantly promoted to a league if his moving average exceeds the upper bound of that league." seems to have been removed. At the moment it seems hard to get demoted if you have a large loss streak. It seems it is much easier to meet stabilization rules for promotions than demotions.

This is why there are lots of posts such as "I am bronze - why I am matched against master players --> matchmaker is not working" on Bnet forums these days. The abusers have crashed their MMR into lower leagues level, but have not been demoted (matchmaker is working, but it may be hard for masses to realize this as MMR values are hidden).

Edit: It is of course unknown if he used hacks such as loss bots to automatically leave games to lower his MMR.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
December 23 2012 13:14 GMT
#4182
On December 23 2012 20:53 Kesella wrote:
Name: Thylacine
Server: EU
League: Master
Replay: http://drop.sc/286968

Desc: Just blindly running 3 scvs to my base on a 4 p map avoiding drone when it comes towards them without vision. Blocking my ramp with two Baracks.
This is not even something to speculate over its so obvious lol.
Hope he gets banned


always figured this guy was using hacks by the way he idolized some hackmaker and general posting in thread. will have to wait until i get back from holidays to check though.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 14:09:42
December 23 2012 13:37 GMT
#4183
On December 23 2012 22:14 nunez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 20:53 Kesella wrote:
Name: Thylacine
Server: EU
League: Master
Replay: http://drop.sc/286968

Desc: Just blindly running 3 scvs to my base on a 4 p map avoiding drone when it comes towards them without vision. Blocking my ramp with two Baracks.
This is not even something to speculate over its so obvious lol.
Hope he gets banned


always figured this guy was using hacks by the way he idolized some hackmaker and general posting in thread. will have to wait until i get back from holidays to check though.

It is of course unknown if he is the same 'Thylacine' who posted here. There are several SC2 accounts named 'Thylacine' on EU server. And yes the one who posted here indeed seemed more 'promoting' hacks than be against them.


Edit: It is likely (even if not for certain) that it is his account. On other thread he expressed his interest on 'practice buddy search engine': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=335250#6 . I searched 'Thylacine' from that service and got one hit (Thylacine.771): http://scvrush.com/users/6882-thylacine . I added that account as character friend in SC2 client and that account matched the replay's account.

Edit2: It might also be that the previous is not his or he has several accounts with same name. In this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=355984 he reports a _different_ 'Thylacine' -named account to be his.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 13:46:50
December 23 2012 13:42 GMT
#4184
On December 23 2012 22:37 korona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 22:14 nunez wrote:
On December 23 2012 20:53 Kesella wrote:
Name: Thylacine
Server: EU
League: Master
Replay: http://drop.sc/286968

Desc: Just blindly running 3 scvs to my base on a 4 p map avoiding drone when it comes towards them without vision. Blocking my ramp with two Baracks.
This is not even something to speculate over its so obvious lol.
Hope he gets banned


always figured this guy was using hacks by the way he idolized some hackmaker and general posting in thread. will have to wait until i get back from holidays to check though.

It is of course unknown if he is the same 'Thylacine' who posted here. There are several SC2 accounts named 'Thylacine' on EU server. And yes the one who posted here indeed seemed more 'promoting' hacks than be against them.


ye, it might be different ppl, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was the same. guess we won't find out since he's already banned from tl.

edit: i guess i should have realized and written that to begin with, but my spidy senses were tingling.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
December 23 2012 19:13 GMT
#4185
On December 23 2012 22:14 nunez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 20:53 Kesella wrote:
Name: Thylacine
Server: EU
League: Master
Replay: http://drop.sc/286968

Desc: Just blindly running 3 scvs to my base on a 4 p map avoiding drone when it comes towards them without vision. Blocking my ramp with two Baracks.
This is not even something to speculate over its so obvious lol.
Hope he gets banned


always figured this guy was using hacks by the way he idolized some hackmaker and general posting in thread. will have to wait until i get back from holidays to check though.

Yeah, isn't he forever posting on TL...esp in the Mech terran threads?
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
December 23 2012 19:15 GMT
#4186
On December 24 2012 04:13 iAmJeffReY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 22:14 nunez wrote:
On December 23 2012 20:53 Kesella wrote:
Name: Thylacine
Server: EU
League: Master
Replay: http://drop.sc/286968

Desc: Just blindly running 3 scvs to my base on a 4 p map avoiding drone when it comes towards them without vision. Blocking my ramp with two Baracks.
This is not even something to speculate over its so obvious lol.
Hope he gets banned


always figured this guy was using hacks by the way he idolized some hackmaker and general posting in thread. will have to wait until i get back from holidays to check though.

Yeah, isn't he forever posting on TL...esp in the Mech terran threads?

Banned since november IIRC.
KirA_TheGreaT
Profile Joined April 2011
France204 Posts
December 23 2012 19:19 GMT
#4187
Wow really, WLHgeorge is hacker ? I crushed him lol
Extenz
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy822 Posts
December 23 2012 19:24 GMT
#4188
On December 23 2012 22:14 nunez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 20:53 Kesella wrote:
Name: Thylacine
Server: EU
League: Master
Replay: http://drop.sc/286968

Desc: Just blindly running 3 scvs to my base on a 4 p map avoiding drone when it comes towards them without vision. Blocking my ramp with two Baracks.
This is not even something to speculate over its so obvious lol.
Hope he gets banned


always figured this guy was using hacks by the way he idolized some hackmaker and general posting in thread. will have to wait until i get back from holidays to check though.


oooooh Thylacine so it's true, I once met him in 2v2 and he and his partner instantly built a forge when I put mine down and srarted getting defensive cannons with 0 scouting, I accused them of hacking and they were so bm lol, nice to know it's true : )
HeafynK
Profile Joined August 2012
9 Posts
December 23 2012 19:59 GMT
#4189
Hacker name: CamelHumper
Server: NA
League: Masters
Description:
This guy is so obvius... he never scout he know i was going reapers and when i move my reapers he move all his army at the same direction... how is this posible. Well you will notice all those obvius moves easily.

Here ir the replay: http://drop.sc/287067
Traumatized0
Profile Joined December 2012
10 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 21:18:08
December 23 2012 20:54 GMT
#4190
Hacker name: Riski http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1748239/1/Riski/

Server: EU

League: Masters 1k points 37-20 http://sc2ranks.com/eu/1748239/Riski


Description:
This guy is a pretty obvious Maphacker, I played against him in peepmode and he just attacked my pylons as soon as they went down, at first I thought it was just ghosting, then I got in touch with people from his match history and picked up quite a few games where he is obviously maphacking.
http://drop.sc/287074 (maphacking pretty obv in peepmode)
http://drop.sc/287077 (no scout banshee to right place, preparing for reapers and an auto scv production)
http://drop.sc/287078 (Early pool so he double rax wall ins on his ramp, and auto SCV, pretty much direct counters everything then goes ahead and splits rines, stims rauders to kill ling/bling in FOW)

Will be posting pics of where he Auto SCV with impossible selection in a few minutes.

*edit* Ugh, im unaware of how to go into the frame by frame view on sc2gears to catch his auto SCV production, would someone be able to do this for me or tell me how? He is mainly manually creating SCVs, however sometimes he uses auto production, if anything this makes it easier to see since 5+ times during his games he will auto-produce and you can compare the impossible selection to his normal selection :D

*edit 2* http://drop.sc/287092 Auto inject/obv maphacking
DieStar
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland81 Posts
December 23 2012 22:55 GMT
#4191

Hello, i just played against LPGTtSultan and im 100% sure he used maphack against me, everything is in replay which i upladed but the most important things:

1. He didnt even scout me and he play 1 gate - nexus - forge and .... 4 CANONS
2. Perfect moves against my drops and movement army - without obs of course

Im 100% sure he used maphack in this game, i have huge experience in this game and his account should be locked as soon as poosible.



_______________________________

replay: http://speedy.sh/WyBwm/Cloud-Kingdom-LE-30.SC2Replay
http://www.twitch.tv/mdiestar , http://www.facebook.com/DieStarSC
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
December 23 2012 23:07 GMT
#4192
On December 24 2012 04:19 KirA_TheGreaT wrote:
Wow really, WLHgeorge is hacker ? I crushed him lol


In general hackers are completely terrible players, except like maybe CombatEX and a few others, they have high ladder ranks because of the program they use, not because of any actual skill.

There's no real achievement in beating an hacker, though I agree it feels great sometimes.
Traumatized0
Profile Joined December 2012
10 Posts
December 23 2012 23:14 GMT
#4193
On December 24 2012 08:07 crbox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 04:19 KirA_TheGreaT wrote:
Wow really, WLHgeorge is hacker ? I crushed him lol


In general hackers are completely terrible players, except like maybe CombatEX and a few others, they have high ladder ranks because of the program they use, not because of any actual skill.

There's no real achievement in beating an hacker, though I agree it feels great sometimes.


Except WLHgeorge didn't hack... he just shared his acc with Gerudo to boost his MMR when it was Tanked still banned so w/e sharing accounts with hackers is bannable too.
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-24 07:02:44
December 24 2012 07:00 GMT
#4194
On December 24 2012 07:55 DieStar wrote:

Hello, i just played against LPGTtSultan and im 100% sure he used maphack against me, everything is in replay which i upladed but the most important things:

1. He didnt even scout me and he play 1 gate - nexus - forge and .... 4 CANONS
2. Perfect moves against my drops and movement army - without obs of course

Im 100% sure he used maphack in this game, i have huge experience in this game and his account should be locked as soon as poosible.



_______________________________

replay: http://speedy.sh/WyBwm/Cloud-Kingdom-LE-30.SC2Replay


here is a replay against the same guy
http://drop.sc/287205

havent checked it myself but it might help solving this case. didnt notice anything suspicious while playing.

he is GM now aswell

looked through the uploaded reps of him on drop.sc and found this
http://drop.sc/286927
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-24 07:27:03
December 24 2012 07:07 GMT
#4195
On December 24 2012 08:14 Traumatized0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 08:07 crbox wrote:
On December 24 2012 04:19 KirA_TheGreaT wrote:
Wow really, WLHgeorge is hacker ? I crushed him lol


In general hackers are completely terrible players, except like maybe CombatEX and a few others, they have high ladder ranks because of the program they use, not because of any actual skill.

There's no real achievement in beating an hacker, though I agree it feels great sometimes.


Except WLHgeorge didn't hack... he just shared his acc with Gerudo to boost his MMR when it was Tanked still banned so w/e sharing accounts with hackers is bannable too.

Eh I'm fairly sure rts_trauma was on the list of paid users that I skimmed off the hack maker's website a while ago, so I think this guy probably hacked at one point or another, and may still do so with externals. You can even google his name and it's hacking across all manners of games. No reason to believe he would just randomly stop, especially with the replays.

Too bad their userlist is closed off to non paying people now, can't check, but I'm fairly sure.

edit - No sooner do I write this, my next game has a 2 stack of friends who troll and feed and don't help, and there is also a russian who goes 20 minute no boots.
FinalBoss88
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada8 Posts
December 24 2012 14:28 GMT
#4196
On December 22 2012 09:12 Fusa wrote:
I would like you all to take a look at this, it is a 2v2 game with high masters. Please tell me if I am looney toon bat crazy, but his gateways have 0 pylons around them yet they never de-power and still produce units.

Scenario (red and blue both toss) obviously on sharecontrol
Red builds pylon and leaves
Blue builds 5 gate
I kill red pylon
Blue keeps building

I have sent a report to blizzard but this is the first I have seen this issue and honestly it is game breaking outside of 1v1.

http://drop.sc/286684


I also just tested this with a friend, it is a serious bug in game and it defiantly needs to be addressed, if I have never heard or seen about this until now its a pretty elusive topic.

Here is the game I just tested it with a friend vs computers

Shared control or not the player who builds the pylon must leave the game prior to his ally abusing the power-field.

http://drop.sc/286690



I have the Same thing happen to me and my friend. i have the replay but i dont know how to upload it...blue drops pylon in our base and leaves. then red makes gateways and even tho the pylon gets killed. his buildings finish and are powered somehow, and zealots come streaming out. This anger's me so much, how this game can be so broken at times...and so littered with hackers. FYI one of the players names was Flash(the one that stayed).
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
December 24 2012 15:11 GMT
#4197
go to drop.sc, drag & drop the replay on the page, copy paste the url.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Fenneth
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia354 Posts
December 24 2012 15:27 GMT
#4198
Why bother? It's not a hack, it's a bug like allied lurkers or whatever in BW. Building a strategy around it may be unethical in a way but they don't deserve to be listed here.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
December 24 2012 17:04 GMT
#4199
On December 25 2012 00:27 Fenneth wrote:
Why bother? It's not a hack, it's a bug like allied lurkers or whatever in BW. Building a strategy around it may be unethical in a way but they don't deserve to be listed here.


i didn't say they would, and you are right, it doesn't warrant a hacker listing. but i think the current scope of this thread encompasses exploitable bugs, at least more so than any other current thread. if he wants to discuss, talk about and upload a relevant replay i think that's fair game. i do wish people would check the op before posting with regards to uploading reps, but on the other hand those high post avatars look mighty fine.

merry xmas yall.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Traumatized0
Profile Joined December 2012
10 Posts
December 24 2012 18:01 GMT
#4200
On December 24 2012 16:07 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 08:14 Traumatized0 wrote:
On December 24 2012 08:07 crbox wrote:
On December 24 2012 04:19 KirA_TheGreaT wrote:
Wow really, WLHgeorge is hacker ? I crushed him lol


In general hackers are completely terrible players, except like maybe CombatEX and a few others, they have high ladder ranks because of the program they use, not because of any actual skill.

There's no real achievement in beating an hacker, though I agree it feels great sometimes.


Except WLHgeorge didn't hack... he just shared his acc with Gerudo to boost his MMR when it was Tanked still banned so w/e sharing accounts with hackers is bannable too.

Eh I'm fairly sure rts_trauma was on the list of paid users that I skimmed off the hack maker's website a while ago, so I think this guy probably hacked at one point or another, and may still do so with externals. You can even google his name and it's hacking across all manners of games. No reason to believe he would just randomly stop, especially with the replays.

Too bad their userlist is closed off to non paying people now, can't check, but I'm fairly sure.

edit - No sooner do I write this, my next game has a 2 stack of friends who troll and feed and don't help, and there is also a russian who goes 20 minute no boots.


I assume you can provide picks then lol
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