EPTClosing this. Suspicious player actions from analyzing replays doesn't qualify as irrefutable evidence.
looks like we're next boys.
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@akamu isn't it possible that hackers don't always hack?
GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating th…
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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody. Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence. | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
looks like we're next boys. edit: @akamu isn't it possible that hackers don't always hack? | ||
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one-one-one
Sweden551 Posts
On October 16 2012 17:26 Akamu wrote: Ive played Nerffy twice this season. I've split 1-1 with him. One game being a cloak banshee all in, hackers shouldn't lose to that. He seemed pretty cool and we talked after. I'll have to check replays now, if i still have them. He is cool if you don't call him out on cheating. I played him once. He was obviously map hacking and had no idea how to play TvT. His approach was pretty creative because he copied my build - reaper expand - exactly. He even made a reaper that just sat at his natural because he didn't have the apm to do anything useful with it, lulz. After some position wars with marine tank vs marine tank he got bored and doom dropped my main. He caught me a bit off guard because it seemed like a weird move to lift your entire army into my main already in the midgame  He ended up way ahead but didn't even recognize his advantage so he left the game. I would have been in a better position if it wasn't for the fact that he magically intercepted my harassment drops due to his ability to see through the fog of war. The guy is seriously awful. Platinum or worse without maphacks. There is no way that he would be master/gm mmr without hacks. Check any replay against this guy carefully. | ||
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Naffy
France10 Posts
Just here to report a maphacker that has apprently not been reported yet. Though i've played him many times. Hacker name : RememberMe Server : Europe League+Rank : Master 845pts (Mid Master in his division) Replay : http://drop.sc/265434 Description/what to look for into the replay : - PvT : No scout (not obvious enough) (4mn30) - Moving army before scouting the harassement (not obvious enough) - Moves probes from B2 to B1 before hellion harass came, not scouted (almost obvious enough) (7mn25) - Shift clicking tanks with DTs through the fog of war (i think obvious enough) (15mn) | ||
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Grimmyman123
Canada939 Posts
On October 17 2012 07:36 Naffy wrote: First of all : I am Naffy, not Nerrfy ! :D (Sometimes people on the ladder call me maphacker because of our nicknames) Just here to report a maphacker that has apprently not been reported yet. Though i've played him many times. Hacker name : RememberMe Server : Europe League+Rank : Master 845pts (Mid Master in his division) Replay : http://drop.sc/265434 Description/what to look for into the replay : - PvT : No scout (not obvious enough) (4mn30) - Moving army before scouting the harassement (not obvious enough) - Moves probes from B2 to B1 before hellion harass came, not scouted (almost obvious enough) (7mn25) - Shift clicking tanks with DTs through the fog of war (i think obvious enough) (15mn) Note: Protoss player does not scout entire game, never makes any observers at all, entire game. 7:20 Moves stalkers to prepare for drop in Main 7:40 Warps in more stalkers and Queues them to move to intercept drop before drop is visible in Main 7:40 Moves probes from Natural to Main, as enemy units (hellions) outside natural ramp (no vision) 9:03 Stalkers move to right side of Main to attempt intercept of drop on its way down to the Natural, and blinks to kill it. 9:50 Moving Stalkers to intercept banshee before banshee in vision Does not make ANY OBSERVERS at all, though Banshees in base (Production tab hack - no cloak researched) 11:03 Looks at Banshee at future location for 3rd expansion. APM Drops massively - Camera Lock? 11:03 Threads Vision needle between banshee (no vision of banshee) and Terran Tower control with Warp Prism 11:40-11:52 Thoroughly looks at Terrans Main and Natural before addressing Warp Prism for drop. NO PREVIOUS SCOUTING Whatsoever. 13:24 Looks through fog of war before drop at natural with a 2nd warp prism 14:05 Look through fog of war at terran's 3rd Command Center as it is moving to take 3rd Natural Expansion 14:59 Looks through fog of war at terran army in center mid map 15:07 Attack Queue DT on Tanks with no vision 15:25 Warps in stalkers at 3rd to deal with 1 Medivac drop on high ground 15:30 Attacks when terran army is repositioning, no vision 16:37 Queues DT's on tanks through fog of war 17:05 Queues DT again on tank through fog of war 17:23 Queues DT again on tank through fog 17:53 Looks over enemy base through fog of war 19:31 Queues DT again on Tanks in mid map through fog of war 20:06 Drop Load - immediately warps in stalkers at 4th base to prepare for drop 20:20 Warps in more stalkers at 4th for drop 20:21 Looks at army at tower adn tehn moves stalkers to intercept drop at 4th he cannot see yet 21:40 Prism to terran 4th not yet scouted 21:44 Looks at Terrans Natural 21:54 DT's Warped in at Terran Natural Queued to attack turret, turret not yet scouted or has vision of. 22:37 Looks at army through fog of war mid map 23:15 Moves and blinks stalkers to intercept drop in protoss main 24:17 Looks at mid map terran army through fog of war 24:44-25:06 Looks at terran army mid map for 21 Seconds CONTINUOUSLY. 25:47 Looks at Fog of war to Terran army after lost major battle with no vision any more 27:09 Looks at terran army through fog of war 31:39 Looks at Terrans 5th expansion thorugh fog of war, queues to attack 6th - Neither Scouted or have vision 33:28 ***100% Proof*** Builds Nexus on place of where his vision says there is a CC - not possible. 33:32 Looks at flying Barracks through fog of war. Blatant hacker. I confirm 100%. | ||
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Braric
Canada184 Posts
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cari-kira
Germany655 Posts
On October 17 2012 08:10 Grimmyman123 wrote: Note: Protoss player does not scout entire game, never makes any observers at all, entire game. 7:20 Moves stalkers to prepare for drop in Main 7:40 Warps in more stalkers and Queues them to move to intercept drop before drop is visible in Main 7:40 Moves probes from Natural to Main, as enemy units (hellions) outside natural ramp (no vision) 9:03 Stalkers move to right side of Main to attempt intercept of drop on its way down to the Natural, and blinks to kill it. 9:50 Moving Stalkers to intercept banshee before banshee in vision Does not make ANY OBSERVERS at all, though Banshees in base (Production tab hack - no cloak researched) 11:03 Looks at Banshee at future location for 3rd expansion. APM Drops massively - Camera Lock? 11:03 Threads Vision needle between banshee (no vision of banshee) and Terran Tower control with Warp Prism 11:40-11:52 Thoroughly looks at Terrans Main and Natural before addressing Warp Prism for drop. NO PREVIOUS SCOUTING Whatsoever. 13:24 Looks through fog of war before drop at natural with a 2nd warp prism 14:05 Look through fog of war at terran's 3rd Command Center as it is moving to take 3rd Natural Expansion 14:59 Looks through fog of war at terran army in center mid map 15:07 Attack Queue DT on Tanks with no vision 15:25 Warps in stalkers at 3rd to deal with 1 Medivac drop on high ground 15:30 Attacks when terran army is repositioning, no vision 16:37 Queues DT's on tanks through fog of war 17:05 Queues DT again on tank through fog of war 17:23 Queues DT again on tank through fog 17:53 Looks over enemy base through fog of war 19:31 Queues DT again on Tanks in mid map through fog of war 20:06 Drop Load - immediately warps in stalkers at 4th base to prepare for drop 20:20 Warps in more stalkers at 4th for drop 20:21 Looks at army at tower adn tehn moves stalkers to intercept drop at 4th he cannot see yet 21:40 Prism to terran 4th not yet scouted 21:44 Looks at Terrans Natural 21:54 DT's Warped in at Terran Natural Queued to attack turret, turret not yet scouted or has vision of. 22:37 Looks at army through fog of war mid map 23:15 Moves and blinks stalkers to intercept drop in protoss main 24:17 Looks at mid map terran army through fog of war 24:44-25:06 Looks at terran army mid map for 21 Seconds CONTINUOUSLY. 25:47 Looks at Fog of war to Terran army after lost major battle with no vision any more 27:09 Looks at terran army through fog of war 31:39 Looks at Terrans 5th expansion thorugh fog of war, queues to attack 6th - Neither Scouted or have vision 33:28 ***100% Proof*** Builds Nexus on place of where his vision says there is a CC - not possible. 33:32 Looks at flying Barracks through fog of war. Blatant hacker. I confirm 100%. well.. dont get your argumentation completely messed up by including so much shitty arguments that proof nothing. only take this: 33:28 ***100% Proof*** Builds Nexus on place of where his vision says there is a CC - not possible. there you got your proof, as far as i see it. the rest is useless and only weakens your position. | ||
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GodTroll
Canada41 Posts
Top masters player [Nerffy]. He bluntly states that he hacks, and tells me exactly what I am doing. I found this funny. He builds buildings without looking at the building location, constant camera locks, per-emptive viking placements to intercept banshees, etc... Kinda really obvious. He made it obvious on purpose, telling me after the game that Blizzard won't do a single thing. Sad...just sad. | ||
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Grimmyman123
Canada939 Posts
On October 17 2012 17:37 cari-kira wrote: well.. dont get your argumentation completely messed up by including so much shitty arguments that proof nothing. only take this: 33:28 ***100% Proof*** Builds Nexus on place of where his vision says there is a CC - not possible. there you got your proof, as far as i see it. the rest is useless and only weakens your position. Actually, when it comes to law, overwhelming amounts of supporting actions/behavior adds to the case, it does not take away from the case. If it was a glance here or there, I could understand and call it circumstantial. However, when there are over 30 different indicators, as is in this case, I would still maintain that he is map hacking. | ||
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Grimmyman123
Canada939 Posts
On October 17 2012 18:04 GodTroll wrote: http://drop.sc/265580 Top masters player [Nerffy]. He bluntly states that he hacks, and tells me exactly what I am doing. I found this funny. He builds buildings without looking at the building location, constant camera locks, per-emptive viking placements to intercept banshees, etc... Kinda really obvious. He made it obvious on purpose, telling me after the game that Blizzard won't do a single thing. Sad...just sad. Chat: 02:36 [All] Nerffy: depot 02:42 [All] llllllllllll: ? 02:46 [All] Nerffy: im hacking 02:50 [All] llllllllllll: wat? 02:53 [All] Nerffy: map hack 02:57 [All] Nerffy: saw u needed depot 02:59 [All] llllllllllll: cool story 03:04 [All] Nerffy: np 03:26 [All] Nerffy: next time 50c 03:32 [All] llllllllllll: wat? 03:38 [All] Nerffy: 50 cents next time 03:44 [All] llllllllllll: wat? 03:52 [All] Nerffy: yur bad 10:16 [All] llllllllllll: gg | ||
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fb.BlackRa
United States17 Posts
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pprrii
Russian Federation216 Posts
On October 17 2012 07:36 Naffy wrote: First of all : I am Naffy, not Nerrfy ! :D (Sometimes people on the ladder call me maphacker because of our nicknames) Just here to report a maphacker that has apprently not been reported yet. Though i've played him many times. Hacker name : RememberMe Server : Europe League+Rank : Master 845pts (Mid Master in his division) Replay : http://drop.sc/265434 Description/what to look for into the replay : - PvT : No scout (not obvious enough) (4mn30) - Moving army before scouting the harassement (not obvious enough) - Moves probes from B2 to B1 before hellion harass came, not scouted (almost obvious enough) (7mn25) - Shift clicking tanks with DTs through the fog of war (i think obvious enough) (15mn) I played this guy too some days ago, after the game i was like 100% sure he is hacking | ||
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Renfield
United States62 Posts
Here's four things that seemed out of place to me 1) The Terran player, without scouting, opens with a two reaper build on Ohana. Anyone who knows p v t knows how bad this build is generally, but it's a perfect counter to my greedy FE. 2) 3:35 Terran select's 2 scv's and brings them off the mineral line to go towards my base (presumably to build bunkers for reapers). I cancel my nexus. Without scouting he immediately sends the scv's back to mine. 3) 9:34. I warp in 5 zealots to prepare to attack. Terran player, without scouting, immediately responds by building two additional bunkers. 4) 9:57. I warp in more units and prepare for all in attack. Terran player again with absolutely no scouting information, pulls 10-12 scvs from mining and brings them toward his bunkers to get ready to repair them. Watch the game from his perspective with the production tab on. It looks really fishy. Replay: http://drop.sc/265692 I'm a masters NA player btw. | ||
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Grimmyman123
Canada939 Posts
On October 18 2012 10:02 Renfield wrote: Check this replay out and see what you think. The Terran player I'm up against made a series of very peculiar decisions that caught my attention. Here's four things that seemed out of place to me 1) The Terran player, without scouting, opens with a two reaper build on Ohana. Anyone who knows p v t knows how bad this build is generally, but it's a perfect counter to my greedy FE. 2) 3:35 Terran select's 2 scv's and brings them off the mineral line to go towards my base (presumably to build bunkers for reapers). I cancel my nexus. Without scouting he immediately sends the scv's back to mine. 3) 9:34. I warp in 5 zealots to prepare to attack. Terran player, without scouting, immediately responds by building two additional bunkers. 4) 9:57. I warp in more units and prepare for all in attack. Terran player again with absolutely no scouting information, pulls 10-12 scvs from mining and brings them toward his bunkers to get ready to repair them. Watch the game from his perspective with the production tab on. It looks really fishy. Replay: http://drop.sc/265692 I'm a masters NA player btw. I went through it fairly thoroughly. Things I noticed in addition, his Queue into your base at the start of the reaper harrass was quite long, several seconds, as if he was looking as much as deciding where to click. Further, there was an APM drop and lack of camera movement towards the end of the game. His next action is the swapping of the starport and factory, and then he resumes normal play. I confirm all the points you make - most notably is the pulling SCV's to repair bunker prior to the POTENTIAL of ANY attack, indicating likely map hack and watching the mini map. However, I don't see anything that cannot be explained away. I hypothesize that he is map hacking with production tab hacking, but the few occurances of fishy behavior can be explained away (timing attacks, etc). In his defense, his APM is high enough (equal to his opponents) indicating that he isn't a gold leaguer in Master league benefiting from a hack exclusively. If he is hacking, he isn't stupid enough to look through the fog of war blantantly or repeatedly, or make other moves which are indicitave. It would have been nice to see his responses to cloaked units or drops, that usually is more telling. I also found an old replay from a previous patch version at www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=download&id=215752. His APM is much lower in this game, but nothing truly out of the ordinary, he loses quite badly to burrowed banelings in the end of the game, but he does make a few fishy moves here and there, but nothing like moving SCV's to prepare for an impending attack. It may be the same GreatfoU but on a different account as this claim against a hacker from the old thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252666¤tpage=28 And I cannot help but notice that account from that complaint has not been used in quite some time. | ||
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EmpireEraser
United States20 Posts
On October 16 2012 17:05 Vogue wrote: I know he's already confirmed, but I just played against Nerffy again. I really just want to emphasize how fucking awful this guy is. http://drop.sc/265270 He would literally be diamond if he didn't hack. the chat of that game is fucking awesome. "05:57 [All] zeezVogue: you're su fucking awful 06:05 [All] Nerffy: oh come on it was pretty close" HAHAHAHAHAHA | ||
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MiseryTheory
Canada19 Posts
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Naffy
France10 Posts
Server : EU League+Rank : 1500pts (Very high master) Replay : http://drop.sc/265941 Description/what to look for into the replay : Using automatic-blink (his stalkers blink and they are not selected many times) Almost beat him , without hacking he's low master maybe diamond. | ||
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hellokittySC2
United States395 Posts
Server : US League somewhere very high masters (sick win ratio) Replay : http://drop.sc/265962 this is just from a pro's perspective, his camera locks at my nat(no scan) ~6:00-6:10 sees where my probe going to the left side initially in my base with his scouting scv (should assume my buildings all there), Scans right on top of everything, just seems fishy, something to be aware of. | ||
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Dzerzhinsky
Scotland327 Posts
On October 07 2012 13:30 Erik.TheRed wrote: I just played him as well, found a convenient spot in my main on entombed for proxy 2 gates. http://drop.sc/262149 Just played this guy and thought I recognised his name from here (I actually searched his name when the game loaded up, hence the checking for Gates inside my main). It's pretty obvious. He never scouts outside of his natural the whole game, I open Cloak Banshee, he builds 2 Observers and rallys them to his mineral lines along with a few units. You can really see the Plat-level play (what he was 2 seasons ago before his miraculous jump) shining through regardless. http://drop.sc/266011 Edit: just noticed that he's already confirmed. Must have spelled it wrong when I searched earlier. | ||
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Thylacine
Sweden882 Posts
33:28 ***100% Proof*** Builds Nexus on place of where his vision says there is a CC - not possible. This makes no sense. If he already had vision of the place, and SAW there was a CC there, (which he must've seen since he tried to plant down a nexus there) then why did he try to do it? What's the point? Maybe it's a bug in that case? I do think hes a hacker though, you gave some serious evidence, alot of evidence which is already convincing enough. #2. Did Nerffy finally get banned? He hasn't been playing for a few days, and before that he played EVERY day? We can only hope. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2811054/1/Nerffy/matches | ||
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