On May 12 2012 14:14 Aserrin wrote: People here thinking that they could have a more educated opinion than Flash?
Ohohoho Ahahaha Ehehehe
Christ.
Anyone who has played SC2, or watched SC2, for more than one month has a more educated opinion than Flash.
No one bowed down the Michael Jordan a month after he swung his first Baseball bat. No matter how "godly" he may be in BW, Flash is still an inexperienced rookie in SC2.
So much ignorance. He can already beat SC2 pro gamers.
Also, he is in Masters on the Korean server, which is very comparable to NA/EU Grandmaster, and no one here with one month of play would be able to achieve.
Isn't the issue though that champions of SC2 like MVP think the game is much closer to fair balance? Masters or not, Flash is new to the game. He hasn't studied other peoples styles and hasn't watched the metagame evolve.
Yes he has an opinion on sc2, but their formed from his own play, since by his own admission he hasn't really studied VODs or replays of existing pros. Flash's opinion means to me as much as every other Korean master, which is to say: less than any current sc2 champions.
Just because Flash is rising fast in sc2 doesn't mean he's right, it just probably means he's mechanically strong, which is what we already knew. Strategy comes with experience and practice. Give him a few months and he probably won't say a thing about other races. If he does then I'll honestly be shocked.
To be fair I wish all the pros who were switching did play all 3 races for a dedicated amount of time. It feels like a lot are just looking at the current metagame in addition to a couple of games and saying "Hey this race seems better" without truly having an understanding of them. I've seen a number of current sc2 pros "off-race" successfully a number of times, yet even though MVP looks great as a zerg, he hasn't switched =/
On May 12 2012 16:57 Alaiz wrote: GOD DAMNIT ! Blizzard please buff terran or Flash will switch race ! Holy mother of god, Blizzard hear him ! Protoss is way too OP, everybody knows it, even Flash who's get top master in few days omg...
Let's ignore the fact that Bisu is thinking of switching to terran.
You know what? I would love to see Flash playing Protoss. If it is THAT op like he describes it, it should be very easy for him to win every tournament.
Zerg: Hydralisks (but not as terrible as many of the other race bad apples), Nydus Terran: BC, Ravens Protoss: all Stargate units suck, Stalkers suck in their role as a main fighting unit (were is the dps OMG?)
So I wish I would see a Stargateplay lategame vs terran, or mech play vs toss, or Hydra and Nydus vs Terran, but it won't happen, because it sucks.
On May 12 2012 14:14 Aserrin wrote: People here thinking that they could have a more educated opinion than Flash?
Ohohoho Ahahaha Ehehehe
Christ.
Anyone who has played SC2, or watched SC2, for more than one month has a more educated opinion than Flash.
No one bowed down the Michael Jordan a month after he swung his first Baseball bat. No matter how "godly" he may be in BW, Flash is still an inexperienced rookie in SC2.
Going for a record with how many unsubstantiated claims you can make in one thread I see. How many games has Flash played exactly? If you don't know then just tell me how many hours he's put into it. Im guessing you know or this statement wouldbe baseless and just be made up to suit your purposes.
all i can say is wow a player who watchs starcraft has more knowledge ow does that work out considering hes already within 3 weeks of play top master league noobs like u dont realise that watching streams u may know the basics and what looks balanced and stuff but only whern u play at that high level masters can u know what balance is because if ur micro and macro isent high masters u cant feel what is and isent truly balanced oh and michael jordan played basket ball u moronic gold league scrub
Oh haha you make me chuckle.
Think about what the poster you quoted was trying to say.
Jordan was god at basketball, but people didn't worship him when he switched over to baseball. Which yes, he did play baseball, that was the point the poster was trying to make. Now think of how he's trying to relate that to Flash.
It hurt to read your post though (in terms of punctuation).
ok my punctuation may be bad but it doesent stop me from being correct now jordan was bad when he switched to baseball flash switched to sc2 for 3 weeks and became topmaster/GM cos topmaster is GM who havent been chosen to go into GM league this season.
so any player who can reach the highest league of a game in 3 weeks of play can definatly talk about balance u cant get to were he is in top masters and not understand the balance and how to play the game flash played a player called kawaiirice not long ago.
and stomped him considering kawaiirice been playing since beta id say he has the right to talk about Balance and imbalance not to mention the fact he WON OSL at Age 14 the hardest BW tournament in korea thanks gg no re
On May 12 2012 16:57 Alaiz wrote: GOD DAMNIT ! Blizzard please buff terran or Flash will switch race ! Holy mother of god, Blizzard hear him ! Protoss is way too OP, everybody knows it, even Flash who's get top master in few days omg...
Let's ignore the fact that Bisu is thinking of switching to terran.
According to the interview of T1 Coach, Bisu stays.
On May 12 2012 13:24 captainobvious wrote: Flash is an idiot. He doesn't understand the game then blames it on "Protoss OP", when Protoss hasn't won any major tournaments in months. Plus, what race has won the last two MLGs? Terran. Terran is not the weakest, he doesn't even know this game is played yet and yet he judges it like he is the best at it. He may have been the best at BW but he is not the best at this.
The question is: Do I ban you for player bashing? or for religious intolerance?
On May 12 2012 16:57 Alaiz wrote: GOD DAMNIT ! Blizzard please buff terran or Flash will switch race ! Holy mother of god, Blizzard hear him ! Protoss is way too OP, everybody knows it, even Flash who's get top master in few days omg...
Let's ignore the fact that Bisu is thinking of switching to terran.
According to the interview of T1 Coach, Bisu stays.
Well Flash isn't switching either! Both of them just said they thought about it yet people are trying to say that Flash's thoughts are proof of imbalance.
edit- and I never said he was definitely switching I said he was 'thinking of' so I'm not really sure what your point was.
On May 12 2012 14:14 Aserrin wrote: People here thinking that they could have a more educated opinion than Flash?
Ohohoho Ahahaha Ehehehe
Christ.
Anyone who has played SC2, or watched SC2, for more than one month has a more educated opinion than Flash.
No one bowed down the Michael Jordan a month after he swung his first Baseball bat. No matter how "godly" he may be in BW, Flash is still an inexperienced rookie in SC2.
So much ignorance. He can already beat SC2 pro gamers.
Also, he is in Masters on the Korean server, which is very comparable to NA/EU Grandmaster, and no one here with one month of play would be able to achieve.
Isn't the issue though that champions of SC2 like MVP think the game is much closer to fair balance? Masters or not, Flash is new to the game. He hasn't studied other peoples styles and hasn't watched the metagame evolve.
Yes he has an opinion on sc2, but their formed from his own play, since by his own admission he hasn't really studied VODs or replays of existing pros. Flash's opinion means to me as much as every other Korean master, which is to say: less than any current sc2 champions.
Just because Flash is rising fast in sc2 doesn't mean he's right, it just probably means he's mechanically strong, which is what we already knew. Strategy comes with experience and practice. Give him a few months and he probably won't say a thing about other races. If he does then I'll honestly be shocked.
To be fair I wish all the pros who were switching did play all 3 races for a dedicated amount of time. It feels like a lot are just looking at the current metagame in addition to a couple of games and saying "Hey this race seems better" without truly having an understanding of them. I've seen a number of current sc2 pros "off-race" successfully a number of times, yet even though MVP looks great as a zerg, he hasn't switched =/
Oh. Some progamers say so. Nestea and DRG once talked about balance with MC. There are also some other opinons that might back up Flash's view but maybe it is only a question of ppl's latest results that they make the say some angry things about balance or not. So DRG wouldn't say the same after wining at GSL . I think Flash is good enough to complain And he is Flash. The thing with the offraceing they probably have no time to do so at the moment (preparing for proleague) in the later run they might do so they did the same in BW Jeadong says Flash's Zerg is much better the his Terran. I don't know how often SCII players off race though. BTW: When I offrace toss... I beat ppl. But I am a noob
Very nice interview. seems like Flash quite underestimates his strength; though i do think he is right about the fact that most progamers would mop the floor with him. I don't think his opinions on balance are even nearly close to truth; and I'm a Terran player... feels like Terran OP, though the ghost nerf was really an overkill imho too.
On May 12 2012 14:14 Aserrin wrote: People here thinking that they could have a more educated opinion than Flash?
Ohohoho Ahahaha Ehehehe
Christ.
Anyone who has played SC2, or watched SC2, for more than one month has a more educated opinion than Flash.
No one bowed down the Michael Jordan a month after he swung his first Baseball bat. No matter how "godly" he may be in BW, Flash is still an inexperienced rookie in SC2.
Going for a record with how many unsubstantiated claims you can make in one thread I see. How many games has Flash played exactly? If you don't know then just tell me how many hours he's put into it. Im guessing you know or this statement wouldbe baseless and just be made up to suit your purposes.
all i can say is wow a player who watchs starcraft has more knowledge ow does that work out considering hes already within 3 weeks of play top master league noobs like u dont realise that watching streams u may know the basics and what looks balanced and stuff but only whern u play at that high level masters can u know what balance is because if ur micro and macro isent high masters u cant feel what is and isent truly balanced oh and michael jordan played basket ball u moronic gold league scrub
Holy hell, punctuation.
oh no i dident use punctuation on a forum ohhhh noooo now my English GCSE is ruined oh wait no its not cos its a forum...
Easy there kiddo. If you have a point you want to get across (otherwise I'm not really sure why the hell you bother posting) then maybe, just maybe, people will take a little more interest in what you have to say if you come off a little less pubic.
On May 12 2012 17:00 bittman wrote: To be fair I wish all the pros who were switching did play all 3 races for a dedicated amount of time. It feels like a lot are just looking at the current metagame in addition to a couple of games and saying "Hey this race seems better" without truly having an understanding of them. I've seen a number of current sc2 pros "off-race" successfully a number of times, yet even though MVP looks great as a zerg, he hasn't switched =/
Pretty silly for a pro gamer to dedicate valuable practice time to a race they do not think they will be successful with. Every game they play offrace is one less that they could have played their main race. These guys do it for a living, so its not such an easy choice to spend a week screwing around.
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. I think Flash is good enough to complain And he is Flash. The thing with the offraceing they probably have no time to do so at the moment (preparing for proleague) in the later run they might do so they did the same in BW Jeadong says Flash's Zerg is much better the his Terran. I don't know how often SCII players off race though. BTW: When I offrace toss... I beat ppl. But I am a noob 
