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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
May 12 2012 02:23 GMT
#781
On May 12 2012 09:46 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow Flash complaining about protoss in Sc2. Losing a lot of respect.


You mean objectively analyzing and stating his opinion as the best SC player on earth.
Sup
dark14cs
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 02:24:41
May 12 2012 02:24 GMT
#782
I think I'm a complete noob. I'm really not that good so I'm still at the stage of learning. Right now I'm in Master league

This made me laugh so hard
IntoTheWow wrote: i think idra said it best -- the tl admins need to get the sand out of their vaginas
Ighox
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway580 Posts
May 12 2012 02:25 GMT
#783
How are your hotkeys?
The same as in BW. Once we fully transition I might start thinking about changing them but I'm not having much trouble so far so I think I might stick with it.

This really sucks, I had hoped both games could keep being popular but I guess it's not really realistic anymore when all the teams make their BW players practice SC2.
TomoeMami
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan48 Posts
May 12 2012 02:27 GMT
#784
On May 12 2012 11:00 TORTOISE wrote:
Protoss is OP. You heard it here from the mouth of God. Will you not believe it?


If god only said so.
But Flash also complaint about Zerg's all in……And thought Terran was the weakest.
I guess he always met Action Jesuz on the ladder
I'll not cry anymore
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
May 12 2012 02:27 GMT
#785
On May 12 2012 11:15 Rainfall7711 wrote:
Agree with the above now. Just a thread full of Flash fanboys using his words as the ultimate proof to their beliefs. With Protoss defending. By all means let Flash balance the game though. Remove forcefields and Warpgates....


How do you know Flash wants to balance the game by removing FF and warpgate? Or are you just assuming shit based off his words in order to make your point, which isn't actually a point at all, all things considered. He thinks they're tough and "OP" right now -- he does not think they need to be removed for the game to be balanced. You can't make that leap.
Macabre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1262 Posts
May 12 2012 02:27 GMT
#786
Lol this thread is a cluster fuck. Flash is a genius. Blizzard will buff Terran benefiting him even more.

Those who know how to think need no teachers. Tasteless - I think I'll take my shirt off and let my muscles do the casting
Lunit
Profile Joined July 2010
United States183 Posts
May 12 2012 02:29 GMT
#787
Next patch Terran receives a buff and Protoss is nerfed. Blizzard does what ever GOD tells them to do.
almond
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
115 Posts
May 12 2012 02:34 GMT
#788
He hasn't even started studying vods yet, so wait and see what he says in a few months.
It probably won't matter though. This game is still being patched and most pros will continue to say their race is weak.

Also, parallel format blows. Rather see amazing SC2 play than mediocre BW and SC2.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
May 12 2012 02:35 GMT
#789
On May 12 2012 11:24 dark14cs wrote:
Show nested quote +
I think I'm a complete noob. I'm really not that good so I'm still at the stage of learning. Right now I'm in Master league

This made me laugh so hard

yea that's a pretty great quote
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Shyndashu
Profile Joined September 2011
United States136 Posts
May 12 2012 02:37 GMT
#790
masters already? damn pros. =[
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
May 12 2012 02:38 GMT
#791
There's always an element of translation issues with these things, remember. It's possible that he thinks that Protoss is just a bullshit race in SC2 regardless of being OP or UP (an opinion I share, they're just poorly designed).
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
GodZo
Profile Joined November 2011
Italy224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 02:42:31
May 12 2012 02:41 GMT
#792
Terrible, terrible thread, that is not good for the SC2 community.

Toss so OP

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments

Last 10 Premier Tournaments

ThorZaIN Terr
aLive Terr
MarineKing Terr
MC Toss
MMA Terr
MarineKing Terr
Polt Terr
viOLet Zerg
MMA Terr
DongRaeGu Zerg

SOOOO OP....

Maybe Flash was Joking, I don't believe he was serious.



프로토스, Yellow, GdZ
fcb10
Profile Joined February 2012
113 Posts
May 12 2012 02:42 GMT
#793
flash "toss OP", nuff said
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
May 12 2012 02:43 GMT
#794
On May 12 2012 11:23 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 09:46 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow Flash complaining about protoss in Sc2. Losing a lot of respect.


You mean objectively analyzing and stating his opinion as the best SC player on earth.


Stating his opinion, yes. objectively analyzing, not really.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
May 12 2012 02:43 GMT
#795
On May 12 2012 11:42 fcb10 wrote:
flash "toss OP", nuff said


Flash hasn't played the game long enough. No one can deny he still needs to practise at least two more months to have a really relevant opinion.
4Relic
Profile Joined January 2012
24 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 02:46:26
May 12 2012 02:46 GMT
#796
Thanks for the interview, really nice to see Flash talking about his transition to StarCraft 2.

I think if Flash ends up switching races so will many other players because people idol him so very much, I think if he changed race I think I'd even feel the urge to switch as well :/
sevia
Profile Joined May 2010
United States954 Posts
May 12 2012 02:46 GMT
#797
On May 12 2012 11:41 GodZo wrote:
Maybe Flash was Joking, I don't believe he was serious.


I'm pretty sure it's this. I think he's a smart enough player to realize that he might not have all the answers yet after a few weeks of playing.

Other former BW players have said similar things (toss OP! zerg OP! terran OP!) but it's all been tongue-in-cheek and usually they appended something like "...but I'm not really at the level to seriously say that yet" afterwards.

Every player harbors their own balance opinions, but only tournament winners have the credibility to make them public and be taken seriously.
최지성 Bomber || 김동환 viOLet || 고병재 GuMiho
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
May 12 2012 02:47 GMT
#798
On May 12 2012 11:43 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 11:23 avilo wrote:
On May 12 2012 09:46 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow Flash complaining about protoss in Sc2. Losing a lot of respect.


You mean objectively analyzing and stating his opinion as the best SC player on earth.


Stating his opinion, yes. objectively analyzing, not really.


Also best SC:BW player, not SC2, he is miles away from being best SC2 player on earth.
ITT: Terran players grasping at straws to prove their race is weak, and they don't just suck, despite majority of tournaments being won by terran players.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 12 2012 02:47 GMT
#799
On May 12 2012 11:23 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 09:46 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow Flash complaining about protoss in Sc2. Losing a lot of respect.


You mean objectively analyzing and stating his opinion as the best SC player on earth.

and as a Terran player. Every player will complain about balance for years, it doesn't matter how good they are- and with Flash admitting he's still relatively new to SC2 I'd still pick a current GSL pro over him for opinions- for now.
jkos86
Profile Joined March 2011
50 Posts
May 12 2012 02:55 GMT
#800
Please stop focusing on stats, they dont matter nearly as much its the fact that protoss lacks in good players that they are underperforming as a race. Srsly look at protoss players games they play unfathomably greedy and lose. Like all they need to do is play solid and toe to toe. Once it gets to 3base + protoss becomes op. They are not weak mid game that is because the protoss is teching greedily, eg you do not get 2 forges and go for colloso that is playing fken greedy, u get 1 forge and tech and keep your gateway unit count high. These protosses are still so terrible with their macro and timings. Parting and squirtle are about the only ones who know how to macro solid and safe. OZ is a prime example of a greedy protoss.
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