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On May 10 2012 20:31 takingbackoj wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 20:14 mcc wrote:On May 10 2012 20:07 takingbackoj wrote:On May 10 2012 20:04 mcc wrote:On May 10 2012 19:56 jmbthirteen wrote:On May 10 2012 18:15 Velr wrote:
I don't see any upset people?
I just see a rich team buying another player from a poorer, which in about any sport I know happens and is not exactly "liked" by just about anyone except the fanbase of the rich team?
In the case of EG it's just hilarious that they still lack the result although their whole roster consists of... the most expensive players there are/were at the time of the purchase?... They probably should just ask the teamleagues to sell them the trophy directly :D...
The real important questions are:
Has Thorzain yet recieved his life long stock of Muscle Shirts (which look terrible and as a sponsor i would prohibit my players wearing them in front of a camre) and his oversized cup to drink ugly looking protein(?) shakes AND most important his beard. EG lacks results? They have better results than any other foreign team. They've won MLGs, IEMs, NASL and have had top 3's at many of those tournaments as well. Team Leagues are secondary. GSTL is the only one that really matters. The rest are online. I'm sorry, but online competition is just, its not fair. Outside of Thorzain, what tournaments were the rest of Mouz winning? They are not really foreign team or rather that distinction is meaningless now with Koreans being on nearly every roster. So you comparing them with foreign teams only is not really fair. You should compare them with all (but mostly Korean) teams. As for which "foreign" team can be compared to them. I would say 3 code S players are better than 0 and 2 code S Ro8 contenders are also rather better than what EG has achieved. I hope you know which team I am alluding to. Ya not Mouz. And ? On page 871 you say "If I had best interest if ThorZain in mind, I would say EG offer was bad for him. He should have quit SC2 as quickly as possible and go back to school. But my opinion is based purely on this move ruining my favourite team. And of course on my eternal hatred for everything related to EG." Your favorite team is implied to be mouz. I bet you didn't flame them when Thorzain was with them. Also on page 958 you say "If you actually cared for ThorZain's well-being you would wish he quit SC2 and went to school. And I couldn't care less about esports." This is probably the most pretentious and ignorant thing I have ever heard any human being say. Ignoring the fact that you think you know whats best for people you don't know personally, and ignoring the fact that the statement "And I couldn't care less about esports." directly goes against your previous statement of having a favorite SC2 pro team and being emotionally invested enough to have an eternal hatred of another, if you really had Thorzains best interest in mind you would want him to be happy with what he does in life and have enough respect for him as a person to not imply you know whats best for him. You are not bright.
Lets start with, what does that have to do with the discussion I had with jmbthirteen about whether EG is the best foreign team ? Your response have no relation to that. That is why I responded with "And ?".
If you have problem with what I said in post on page XXX, quote the relevant post. Do not quote completely unrelated one with completely unrelated response.
Now for your arguments. There is nothing contradictory about me not caring about esports and having emotional investment in teams. I can easily not care if esports dies or not and yet be emotionally invested in teams or players. They are not the same thing. Not even mentioning that teams (not pro, but still teams) can exist without professional esports.
If you quoted the posts you would also notice the context which would be helpful so you do not make completely irrelevant remarks like last part of your post.
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Conspiracy time, the hug between iNcontrol and Thorzain at DH EIZO open... Just like the Idra and Huk handshake!
Starting a new rule of thumb, any physical contact between an EG and non-EG (those other "teams") member is a legal signing of a player contract.
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Fuck you, you're not a real team unless you've got at least one swede in it!
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On May 10 2012 23:17 Hnnngg wrote:
Conspiracy time, the hug between iNcontrol and Thorzain at DH EIZO open... Just like the Idra and Huk handshake!
Starting a new rule of thumb, any physical contact between an EG and non-EG (those other "teams") member is a legal signing of a player contract.
Or EG is the progaming epidemic of the century. I believe it was con-flu last century.
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On May 10 2012 23:17 Hnnngg wrote:
Conspiracy time, the hug between iNcontrol and Thorzain at DH EIZO open... Just like the Idra and Huk handshake!
Starting a new rule of thumb, any physical contact between an EG and non-EG (those other "teams") member is a legal signing of a player contract.
This theory is indeed supported by physical evidence.
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On May 10 2012 23:04 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 20:31 takingbackoj wrote:On May 10 2012 20:14 mcc wrote:On May 10 2012 20:07 takingbackoj wrote:On May 10 2012 20:04 mcc wrote:On May 10 2012 19:56 jmbthirteen wrote:On May 10 2012 18:15 Velr wrote:
I don't see any upset people?
I just see a rich team buying another player from a poorer, which in about any sport I know happens and is not exactly "liked" by just about anyone except the fanbase of the rich team?
In the case of EG it's just hilarious that they still lack the result although their whole roster consists of... the most expensive players there are/were at the time of the purchase?... They probably should just ask the teamleagues to sell them the trophy directly :D...
The real important questions are:
Has Thorzain yet recieved his life long stock of Muscle Shirts (which look terrible and as a sponsor i would prohibit my players wearing them in front of a camre) and his oversized cup to drink ugly looking protein(?) shakes AND most important his beard. EG lacks results? They have better results than any other foreign team. They've won MLGs, IEMs, NASL and have had top 3's at many of those tournaments as well. Team Leagues are secondary. GSTL is the only one that really matters. The rest are online. I'm sorry, but online competition is just, its not fair. Outside of Thorzain, what tournaments were the rest of Mouz winning? They are not really foreign team or rather that distinction is meaningless now with Koreans being on nearly every roster. So you comparing them with foreign teams only is not really fair. You should compare them with all (but mostly Korean) teams. As for which "foreign" team can be compared to them. I would say 3 code S players are better than 0 and 2 code S Ro8 contenders are also rather better than what EG has achieved. I hope you know which team I am alluding to. Ya not Mouz. And ? On page 871 you say "If I had best interest if ThorZain in mind, I would say EG offer was bad for him. He should have quit SC2 as quickly as possible and go back to school. But my opinion is based purely on this move ruining my favourite team. And of course on my eternal hatred for everything related to EG." Your favorite team is implied to be mouz. I bet you didn't flame them when Thorzain was with them. Also on page 958 you say "If you actually cared for ThorZain's well-being you would wish he quit SC2 and went to school. And I couldn't care less about esports." This is probably the most pretentious and ignorant thing I have ever heard any human being say. Ignoring the fact that you think you know whats best for people you don't know personally, and ignoring the fact that the statement "And I couldn't care less about esports." directly goes against your previous statement of having a favorite SC2 pro team and being emotionally invested enough to have an eternal hatred of another, if you really had Thorzains best interest in mind you would want him to be happy with what he does in life and have enough respect for him as a person to not imply you know whats best for him. You are not bright. Lets start with, what does that have to do with the discussion I had with jmbthirteen about whether EG is the best foreign team ? Your response have no relation to that. That is why I responded with "And ?". If you have problem with what I said in post on page XXX, quote the relevant post. Do not quote completely unrelated one with completely unrelated response. Now for your arguments. There is nothing contradictory about me not caring about esports and having emotional investment in teams. I can easily not care if esports dies or not and yet be emotionally invested in teams or players. They are not the same thing. Not even mentioning that teams (not pro, but still teams) can exist without professional esports.If you quoted the posts you would also notice the context which would be helpful so you do not make completely irrelevant remarks like last part of your post.
I'm gonna butt in here to quickly state that this is so very very true! The SC2 community especially seem to suffer from the idea that only professional Esports matter, as if the value of the games played equals the amount of money invested, or the number of viewers. Personally, I don't give a rats ass about how many others are watching a game, or how much the winners take home. By that logic we should all be watching soccer instead. In fact, I prefer to watch a stream without a lot of people in it. I prefer a low level tournament (if it includes good players ofc) that focuses on the games and not some "brand". To me monetizing Esports too much is to remove the soul of the games and replace it with empty commercialism, it is to remove the true fan and replace him/her (well.. him) with sheep who'll flock to whatever is the flavor of the month. The love of the game is all that matters and while a little money will help spread that love, a lot of money will kill it. For me.
edit: to bring this horribly off topic post more on topic, I'll just say that this is why I don't like Thorzain going to EG. Or rather, this is why I don't like EG. They seem to be one of the great engines of monetization in Esports.
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Very excited to see this! Hope that he really enjoys his new team and hope EG can really benefit from their new player!
Good luck ThorZain!
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Great picup, good luck to both Thorzain and EG!
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Thorzain to eg.....mind=blown
Loved the antihype hype video though, masterfully done and funny as hell
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Well, I think we can all agree that if there was a teamleague for physically fighting your opponents, EG would roll everyone.
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i havent allways been the biggest EG fan, but this video is top notch and hillarious!!!!! Thorzain Fightning Sweden REPRESENT!! i now love EG.
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On May 10 2012 23:17 Hnnngg wrote:
Conspiracy time, the hug between iNcontrol and Thorzain at DH EIZO open... Just like the Idra and Huk handshake!
Starting a new rule of thumb, any physical contact between an EG and non-EG (those other "teams") member is a legal signing of a player contract.
Hahaha so true!
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Well done on the video EG, and grats on your new set of Spoons.
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Fuck sake he sold out.
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On May 10 2012 23:38 helvete wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 23:04 mcc wrote:On May 10 2012 20:31 takingbackoj wrote:On May 10 2012 20:14 mcc wrote:On May 10 2012 20:07 takingbackoj wrote:On May 10 2012 20:04 mcc wrote:On May 10 2012 19:56 jmbthirteen wrote:On May 10 2012 18:15 Velr wrote:
I don't see any upset people?
I just see a rich team buying another player from a poorer, which in about any sport I know happens and is not exactly "liked" by just about anyone except the fanbase of the rich team?
In the case of EG it's just hilarious that they still lack the result although their whole roster consists of... the most expensive players there are/were at the time of the purchase?... They probably should just ask the teamleagues to sell them the trophy directly :D...
The real important questions are:
Has Thorzain yet recieved his life long stock of Muscle Shirts (which look terrible and as a sponsor i would prohibit my players wearing them in front of a camre) and his oversized cup to drink ugly looking protein(?) shakes AND most important his beard. EG lacks results? They have better results than any other foreign team. They've won MLGs, IEMs, NASL and have had top 3's at many of those tournaments as well. Team Leagues are secondary. GSTL is the only one that really matters. The rest are online. I'm sorry, but online competition is just, its not fair. Outside of Thorzain, what tournaments were the rest of Mouz winning? They are not really foreign team or rather that distinction is meaningless now with Koreans being on nearly every roster. So you comparing them with foreign teams only is not really fair. You should compare them with all (but mostly Korean) teams. As for which "foreign" team can be compared to them. I would say 3 code S players are better than 0 and 2 code S Ro8 contenders are also rather better than what EG has achieved. I hope you know which team I am alluding to. Ya not Mouz. And ? On page 871 you say "If I had best interest if ThorZain in mind, I would say EG offer was bad for him. He should have quit SC2 as quickly as possible and go back to school. But my opinion is based purely on this move ruining my favourite team. And of course on my eternal hatred for everything related to EG." Your favorite team is implied to be mouz. I bet you didn't flame them when Thorzain was with them. Also on page 958 you say "If you actually cared for ThorZain's well-being you would wish he quit SC2 and went to school. And I couldn't care less about esports." This is probably the most pretentious and ignorant thing I have ever heard any human being say. Ignoring the fact that you think you know whats best for people you don't know personally, and ignoring the fact that the statement "And I couldn't care less about esports." directly goes against your previous statement of having a favorite SC2 pro team and being emotionally invested enough to have an eternal hatred of another, if you really had Thorzains best interest in mind you would want him to be happy with what he does in life and have enough respect for him as a person to not imply you know whats best for him. You are not bright. Lets start with, what does that have to do with the discussion I had with jmbthirteen about whether EG is the best foreign team ? Your response have no relation to that. That is why I responded with "And ?". If you have problem with what I said in post on page XXX, quote the relevant post. Do not quote completely unrelated one with completely unrelated response. Now for your arguments. There is nothing contradictory about me not caring about esports and having emotional investment in teams. I can easily not care if esports dies or not and yet be emotionally invested in teams or players. They are not the same thing. Not even mentioning that teams (not pro, but still teams) can exist without professional esports.If you quoted the posts you would also notice the context which would be helpful so you do not make completely irrelevant remarks like last part of your post. I'm gonna butt in here to quickly state that this is so very very true! The SC2 community especially seem to suffer from the idea that only professional Esports matter, as if the value of the games played equals the amount of money invested, or the number of viewers. Personally, I don't give a rats ass about how many others are watching a game, or how much the winners take home. By that logic we should all be watching soccer instead. In fact, I prefer to watch a stream without a lot of people in it. I prefer a low level tournament (if it includes good players ofc) that focuses on the games and not some "brand". To me monetizing Esports too much is to remove the soul of the games and replace it with empty commercialism, it is to remove the true fan and replace him/her (well.. him) with sheep who'll flock to whatever is the flavor of the month. The love of the game is all that matters and while a little money will help spread that love, a lot of money will kill it. For me. edit: to bring this horribly off topic post more on topic, I'll just say that this is why I don't like Thorzain going to EG. Or rather, this is why I don't like EG. They seem to be one of the great engines of monetization in Esports.
So you don't like the fact that EG can reassure Thorzain about his decision to take a year off college to follow his passion, to use his talent in an area where he can become one of the worlds best? You don't like the fact that EG are giving him the best possible conditions for practice, with Slayers, his friends and some of the greatest players in SC2? You don't like the fact that EG has provided their players with comfortable wages and great living conditions in order to give to us the best games possible?
You don't like the fact that EG rewarded a player like Huk with a 'life changing contract', who instead of maybe staying in NA and winning a few tournaments here and there, went to Korea, trained hardcore in the OGs house for months on end while people said that he was fading and would never make it in Korea (props to Liquid for supporting him as well obviously). You don't like the fact that EG supported the Monteral Barcraft? Or that they run a team-league with some of the best production?
No EG are clearly evil money grubbing idiots who simply want to suck money from us all. Clearly.
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On May 11 2012 00:14 FreeWinner wrote:
Fuck sake he sold out.
Nah he didn't really, it was a choice between giving up Starcraft for college or a comfortable wage and amazing opportunities with EG. He sold out for nothing.
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Whaaaaaaaaat
Awesome! And the video is pure gold :D
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Can someone please tell me why incontrol is still on the team? He is really bad compared to everyone else lol
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On May 11 2012 00:35 Southwards wrote:
Can someone please tell me why incontrol is still on the team? He is really bad compared to everyone else lol
I can only tell you that you are full of idiocy.
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