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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 28 2012 13:28 GMT
#401
Well put AmericanUmlaut... except for the beginning of the first sentence lol
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AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2594 Posts
June 28 2012 13:36 GMT
#402
On June 28 2012 22:28 7mk wrote:
Well put AmericanUmlaut... except for the beginning of the first sentence lol

I have no idea what you're talking about. As a native speaker, I would never make the sort of mistake you seem to be referring to...
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Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
June 28 2012 13:38 GMT
#403
On June 28 2012 22:16 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
I that that the "called game" issue that people give so much negative feedback on can be easily fixed; it's just a question of framing. If you say "This game is over", then it is annoying to a lot of viewers. You can get the exact same information accross, though, by framing it as "This is a horribly difficult position for %PLAYER%, to come back from this he'll have to..."

There's always something that could happen to cause a game to go the other way. Pull off a miraculous defense, exploit a serious mistake by his opponent, harass perfectly while forcing a really long game, get off nothing but perfect storms for the next five minutes. By framing it in terms of the game being over, you're dismissing the efforts of the losing player to find some way out. By framining it in terms of the immensity of the challenge to be overcome, you're conveying the same information about the state of play, but in a way that allows for the possibility of a comeback and gives you a frame for describing how incredible it is in the one game in a hundred when it actually happens.


On the other hand "predicting" the game is about to be over makes him look knowledgeable. Not just him but casters in general are too caught up over being cool and witty (Tastosis effect perhaps?) over professional, thought out entertainment like that. No wonder the koreans are so much better.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 28 2012 13:43 GMT
#404
On June 28 2012 22:36 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 22:28 7mk wrote:
Well put AmericanUmlaut... except for the beginning of the first sentence lol

I have no idea what you're talking about. As a native speaker, I would never make the sort of mistake you seem to be referring to...


hm... yea i that I was right but now I that that you were
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
June 28 2012 14:05 GMT
#405
Calling GG is actually a good thing. It allows the casters to create a narrative where the losing player's chances were diminished until the eventual defeat. If they keep talking about how he might have a chance then to suddenly see the GG appear in chat and the game end can make things maybe feel unfinished. That's why when Tastosis note that "this game is over, we'll see gg any second now" and it actually happens five seconds after, that improves the cast in my opinion. Of course, if they make the wrong call wrt this enough times eventually people will start to dislike the phrase to begin with and it will just trigger annoyance.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
June 28 2012 14:14 GMT
#406


Calling gg too early just makes him look stupid. MC vs Squirtle game today for example. MC was soon to have immortal. Calling gg before fight even happen is just stupid. when squirtle destroyed artosis pylon, all wolf and khaldor talk was how MC is done and he cant do anything to win this game and did not concentrate on game itself MC drop immediately 2 pylons to those gates while microing his army made all right decisions and all i heard was how he is going to lose.
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
June 28 2012 14:48 GMT
#407
«MC is going taken out by Squirtle, 100% sure»
Such a fail ;P
Eurytos
Profile Joined August 2010
Singapore97 Posts
June 28 2012 15:15 GMT
#408
I'm re watching all the vods from today again and usually i'm a wolf fan but today his casting with quite off. Not really focusing on the game with tangential jokes for long periods, also making quite a few bad calls. However, i think his overall performance throughout gsl/gstl has been really good and might just be an off day that everyone occasionally has.
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
June 28 2012 19:21 GMT
#409
He doesn't look and sound very bright, that's the most politically correct thing I can say about him.
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TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
June 28 2012 19:24 GMT
#410
Overall I like Wolf, had that toss not been MC, he probably wouldve lost, his micro was just insane and i still dont really know what happened.
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AsymptoticClimax
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom249 Posts
June 28 2012 20:13 GMT
#411
On June 29 2012 04:21 SiroKO wrote:
He doesn't look and sound very bright, that's the most politically correct thing I can say about him.

What? That's not feedback, it's is uncalled for.

My feedback from todays Code S matches would be dont call GG too early, It's anti climatic. I noticed you stopped doing it later in the cast and I appreciate that. other than that youre doing a great job and keep it up!
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
June 28 2012 21:49 GMT
#412
On June 28 2012 20:14 Grumbels wrote:
Yeah, I had the sudden urge to actually open team liquid and complain in the LR thread about how annoying his cast was. Too many bad calls, over excitement, too much screaming and I just got really annoyed by it. Bad Wolf!

But of course some people liked it and thought it was the best casting ever, which just goes to show how people have different standards.

Foreign casters have too little energy. When we have someone put out enough to rival the Korean casters, people complain? Dear jesus.
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FuGGu
Profile Joined March 2012
United States176 Posts
June 28 2012 21:53 GMT
#413
I think Wolf is doing a great job! He's like a fine wine - he gets better with time.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 28 2012 21:56 GMT
#414
On June 29 2012 06:49 PH wrote:
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On June 28 2012 20:14 Grumbels wrote:
Yeah, I had the sudden urge to actually open team liquid and complain in the LR thread about how annoying his cast was. Too many bad calls, over excitement, too much screaming and I just got really annoyed by it. Bad Wolf!

But of course some people liked it and thought it was the best casting ever, which just goes to show how people have different standards.

Foreign casters have too little energy. When we have someone put out enough to rival the Korean casters, people complain? Dear jesus.


Its not just about how loud you are. Of course this its impossible to be objective about it but to me Wolf sounded a bit fake and I didnt get excited through his loud play by play. When Old tasteless would cast BW by himself he would shoult like crazy and I'd have goosebumps all over, when Wolf does it i dont enjoy it.
I do realize that this isnt constructive in the slightest though I wish i could be more helpful
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Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
June 28 2012 22:02 GMT
#415
On June 28 2012 21:30 Drizzt3 wrote:
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On June 28 2012 21:05 Yaki wrote:
I liked Wolf at the beginning but now he is starting to irritate me moe and more by always making wrong calls and saying the game is over before it is. Also Khaldor should not be casting the GSL he is nowhere near being a top notch level caster.

Unfortunately for you this is not the Khaldor bashing thread, it's the Wolf feedback thread. I think Wolf is doing great, and i Hate You.

I am free to give my opinion and I did it in a polite, fanboy
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NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
June 28 2012 22:04 GMT
#416
I personally actually find wolf rather ... over the top. He'll see a single marine die and go "THE LEAD HAS CHANGED, THE ZERG IS GOING TO WIN" (rash example, but that's my general impression when he casts) So if you like that over-hyped crazy "gogogogogo" type casting, then do it up, I just prefer the more knowledge based casting and the issue when khaldor and wolf are casting is that simply they both fit the same role as shout casters, and as much as Khaldor want's to analytically cast, he just can't do it... : ( from my perspective at least.
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obsidia
Profile Joined October 2010
122 Posts
June 28 2012 22:14 GMT
#417
wolf and khaldor restored my passion in sc2, have to watch GSL every morning now
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
June 28 2012 22:19 GMT
#418
On June 29 2012 07:04 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
I personally actually find wolf rather ... over the top. He'll see a single marine die and go "THE LEAD HAS CHANGED, THE ZERG IS GOING TO WIN" (rash example, but that's my general impression when he casts) So if you like that over-hyped crazy "gogogogogo" type casting, then do it up, I just prefer the more knowledge based casting and the issue when khaldor and wolf are casting is that simply they both fit the same role as shout casters, and as much as Khaldor want's to analytically cast, he just can't do it... : ( from my perspective at least.


He is over the top with the random yelling, but its not the same as other casters when they get hyped up. Maybe because of his monotone voice it just doesn`t really register for me or get me hyped. I think Wolf is only good when he is solo casting because he spends less time making it sound depressing and more time calling what is happening.
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
June 28 2012 22:24 GMT
#419
On June 29 2012 04:21 SiroKO wrote:
He doesn't look and sound very bright, that's the most politically correct thing I can say about him.


This comment and it's poster is definitely not bright. Ahhh, superficiality. Just ignore stuff like this Wolf!
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 22:35:58
June 28 2012 22:33 GMT
#420
On June 29 2012 05:13 AsymptoticClimax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 04:21 SiroKO wrote:
He doesn't look and sound very bright, that's the most politically correct thing I can say about him.

What? That's not feedback, it's is uncalled for.

My feedback from todays Code S matches would be dont call GG too early, It's anti climatic. I noticed you stopped doing it later in the cast and I appreciate that. other than that youre doing a great job and keep it up!


On June 29 2012 07:24 willoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 04:21 SiroKO wrote:
He doesn't look and sound very bright, that's the most politically correct thing I can say about him.


This comment and it's poster is definitely not bright. Ahhh, superficiality. Just ignore stuff like this Wolf!



Alright.
I heard that listening to Mozart was increasing intellectual prowess, therefore I suggest him that.

In all seriousness, it would be great if he stopped staring/nodding at the camera with a fake straight-face in between his unbearable fake laughs, wrong game calls and rash judgements which for some reasons are refered to as "casting".
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