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On June 28 2012 20:08 PH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 20:01 wangstra wrote:
Stop calling games as you think they will end. Please cast more and inject your personal favoritism less. Its frustrating and throws off completely the atmosphere. Stop it. I don't get why people bitch about games being called. If you see a four gate against a two gate robo with no sentries, how else would you fucking call the game? It's ok for the casters to be wrong, especially when the cards are stacked completely against one player. MC should have lost that game, and Squirtle should have won it. That's it. Wolf made the correct call there. MC won it through grit and completely uncommon micro and proved Starcraft 2 wrong.
people can hold off 4gates with superior micro thats just the way it is, its not "proving Starcraft 2 wrong"
for example HerO held off naniwas 4 gate with 2 gate just 2 weeks ago
wouldnt it seem stupid for amazing players like hero or MC to go for builds that lose to a 4 gate 100% of the time?
I missed that moment in the cast today so i cant complain about that, but I did feel like Wolf sounded a bit fake overexcited today.
No biggie, you dont wanna sound boring either, just gotta find the right balance
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wolf, you re an awesome caster but dont try to predict games, its not an important part of the cast tbh, saying "its really difficult" is better than saying its over, i believe, but try not to focus the casting on that part! 
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Wolf is probably my favorite caster. I watched him since his amateur days in his very own Wolf Cup Series. He is probably the most improved caster as well. Definitely right up there with Artosis.
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I for one find it much more exciting when the caster (along with most of the viewers) thinks that one player has almost certainly won, and then that player loses. It's like "that comeback was so intense that even the caster thought it was over!"
As long as the call isn't egregiously wrong, it's fine. If a low-knowledge caster calls an almost-even game over, then there might be reason to bitch...
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On June 28 2012 20:08 PH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 20:01 wangstra wrote:
Stop calling games as you think they will end. Please cast more and inject your personal favoritism less. Its frustrating and throws off completely the atmosphere. Stop it. I don't get why people bitch about games being called. If you see a four gate against a two gate robo with no sentries, how else would you fucking call the game? It's ok for the casters to be wrong, especially when the cards are stacked completely against one player. MC should have lost that game, and Squirtle should have won it. That's it. Wolf made the correct call there. MC won it through grit and completely uncommon micro and proved Starcraft 2 wrong.
No. Two gate robo can counter 4gate when executed well. If MC had 2 pylons power the robo, then it would have been a lot easier to defend and losing that pylon delayed his immortal like 30secs. If you play somewhat high level (grandmaster/highmaster) PvP with 2gate robo, you will be in those situations a lot. Immortals are sick good against stalkers and do some good damage against zealots also. I think it was pretty clear that MC defended that after his immortal was almost out. I too got annoyed when Wolf started screaming "SQUIRTLE WILL MOVE TO ROUND OF 8".
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I love the random, slightly awkward tangents. Even when they make absolutely no sense. And are about cheezits.
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First of all he is doing a great job. I like listening to him ofc, BUT there are two points, which I really don´t like. He sometimes calls the game 10000000000000000000% over before it is. e.g look at the games squirtle vs mc. It looks like MC has lost but he pulled of a miracle defence and won the game.
Here he can imo improve a bit by just saying this like: " wow, this game looks like over, IF mc doesn´t pull of some miracle defence".
Those statements are way better than this game is 10000000000000% over squirtle goes to round of 8.
On the other hand pls talk less off topic. Sometimes it is nice but it can get quite annoying.
Correct those "bad" habits and he is a great caster imho.
in best regards to wolf I enjoy you watching already and after you take my pov into consideration It could be an ever more pleasure to watch you cast sc2 games =)
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Love him atm, only liked him a bit when he began casting and i was really sad he had to work with Moletrap.
Him and the other guy that doesn't cast anymore ( was it Doa or something like that ? ) was a really good casting duo.
But at this point in time he is my number 2/3 caster for sure, he really needs to get a good partner... him + Artosis was almost better than Artosis + Tasteless at times.
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On June 28 2012 21:01 Aterons_toss wrote:
Love him atm, only liked him a bit when he began casting and i was really sad he had to work with Moletrap.
Him and the other guy that doesn't cast anymore ( was it Doa or something like that ? ) was a really good casting duo.
But at this point in time he is my number 2/3 caster for sure, he really needs to get a good partner... him + Artosis was almost better than Artosis + Tasteless at times.
Doa still casts a lot (for IPL)
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I liked Wolf at the beginning but now he is starting to irritate me moe and more by always making wrong calls and saying the game is over before it is. Also Khaldor should not be casting the GSL he is nowhere near being a top notch level caster.
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I love Wolf's casting - except for when he comes out as blatantly arrogant. Many other casters are also starting to do it more and more, for instance Kevin and Doa during the recent EG vs MVP round of IPL TAC3, there's a lot of "I really don't like this choice from him", "I really don't like this and that".
The point is that the casters should not be condescending or sound like they think they could do it better than the pros they're casting. The only time that outright dismissing a player's choices and sounding like you could have done it better doesn't make me cringe is when current or ex top level players are doing the casting, like Tastosis, iNcontroL, IdrA, DeMusliM etc.
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On June 28 2012 21:05 Yaki wrote:
I liked Wolf at the beginning but now he is starting to irritate me moe and more by always making wrong calls and saying the game is over before it is. Also Khaldor should not be casting the GSL he is nowhere near being a top notch level caster.
Unfortunately for you this is not the Khaldor bashing thread, it's the Wolf feedback thread. I think Wolf is doing great, and i Hate You.
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I don't really like Wolf casting, I think he calls things way too early, and really takes it way too far. It's fine if he's like oh he should gg soon, but he goes in the MC Squirtle game and starts yelling SQUIRTLE IS GOING TO THE ROUND OF 8!!!! and it's just like come on, game's not even over what the hell are you yelling at.
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Wolf disbelief when he realized that MC was going to be able to defend despite loosing the pylon powering his two gates and his robo is what made this game epic.
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I think Wolf have improved a lot lately. His knowledge of "up-coming" trend, metagame shift is very up to date. He knows all match-ups and maps very well. In a sense, his casting style is more like Artosis.
However, SC2 is a game more than just "numbers". Such as Squirtle vs MC, MC have out micro-ed his opponent. I think the casters should be more reserved in their opinion on the situation instead of just calling GG base on mere number.
As an audience, once I saw MC pull back that one stalker. I already had a feeling he might hold, having the caster calling GG, GG, GG, non-stop is not casting at all. They should really focus the casting on the micro and situation. Like, Tastosis really.
Otherwise, Wolf Khaldor is doing great! I enjoy their cast!
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On June 28 2012 21:36 Jetaap wrote:
Wolf disbelief when he realized that MC was going to be able to defend despite loosing the pylon powering his two gates and his robo is what made this game epic.
This. I've watched every single GSL A/S since Open 1 and with all the different casters I have found that Wolf has been fantastic, definitely one of my favourites. I'm a massive Tastosis fanboy but I think that Wolf makes watching it enjoyable. Sure, he might make a prediction that doesn't turn out correctly, but tell me any commentator of any sport where commentators are always right? They never are, but its their enthusiasm that makes it so much better to watch.
Keep it up Wolf, you're rad.
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I like Wolf's casting very much. I just want to point something out that annoys me a bit, not only on him but ony some other casters.
When ending a sentence for a break or something else, a lot of SC2 casters keep saying their nickname, where they are etc.
"We will be back for 5mins I am Wolf and this is the GSL"
I mean we all know who you are and what we're watching. I've never heard something like this by professional commentators on football, F1, tennis, or anything else i've watched / heard. Not sure where this mania came from. Probably originated from Artosis and Tasteless because they do it as well, and are considered the best casting duo... as long as SC2 casters go. When learning from them, casters should keep in mind that there are much better commentators out there from other sports to learn from.
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wolf has a tendency to call games but so does tasteless
I think it's just a more common thing than saying 'this is a hard spot' which is something ARTOSIS does so well.
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I think that the "called game" issue that people give so much negative feedback on can be easily fixed; it's just a question of framing. If you say "This game is over", then it is annoying to a lot of viewers. You can get the exact same information accross, though, by framing it as "This is a horribly difficult position for %PLAYER%, to come back from this he'll have to..."
There's always something that could happen to cause a game to go the other way. Pull off a miraculous defense, exploit a serious mistake by his opponent, harass perfectly while forcing a really long game, get off nothing but perfect storms for the next five minutes. By framing it in terms of the game being over, you're dismissing the efforts of the losing player to find some way out. By framining it in terms of the immensity of the challenge to be overcome, you're conveying the same information about the state of play, but in a way that allows for the possibility of a comeback and gives you a frame for describing how incredible it is in the one game in a hundred when it actually happens.
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Could anyone imagine Wolf casting BoxeRs matches from the early days? He'd call game over for BoxeR at least 100 times before his eventual victory 
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