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Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
May 23 2012 21:20 GMT
#261
Dear Wolf:

I really like your casting, you're great, but I wish you turned up the volume on your stream when you're playing AWESOME classics like Earthbound. That's the only criticism I can think of right this second.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
Gihi
Profile Joined September 2011
384 Posts
May 23 2012 21:27 GMT
#262
I think he has great potential, but feel like he has work to do, sometimes I get a bit frustrated with his intonation/way he says things but I guess we should take people as they are. And wolf isn't bad at all!
Diabulus
Profile Joined February 2011
Bolivia105 Posts
May 23 2012 21:39 GMT
#263
Wolf needs to learn to try to stop the analysis commentating, i forever MUTE him now because of his most famous quote.......... "Pylons dont actually give vision" -.-; thank god (Flash ofc) that moletrap isnt there anymore to agree with him......"Yea Wolf, i believe your right, they need a unit there in order to warp in".... -.- needisaymore?
" GO PROTOSS!!! "
DreadKnight
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom123 Posts
May 23 2012 21:46 GMT
#264
I actually really like Wolf's casting, my only advice is for him to never team up with dApollo or Artosis. They both try to fill the same role and it's a bit awkward. Some people might like this but it's just my personal opinion
z1n0
Profile Joined January 2012
Denmark15 Posts
May 23 2012 21:55 GMT
#265
stop trying to sound like Artosis
SuperSloth
Profile Joined April 2012
38 Posts
May 23 2012 22:18 GMT
#266
Yeah i think you're trying a little hard to sound like artosis and it's kinda weird. But other than that its good.
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 23:22:02
May 23 2012 23:21 GMT
#267
I like the fact that Sc2 has a vocal community.

I don't like the fact that so many people are so quick to judge and/or criticize casters.

It feels like whenever I go on reddit and sometimes even TL there is a new topic about how Caster X is doing a poor job for Reasons Y & Z. If it's not Tasteless, it's HD, or that guy from Playhem, or Catzpajamas, Doa, Khaldor, Apollo, even Day 9 at times. I mean come on people.

I appreciate so much of what they do and Wolf and Khaldor in particular do a FANTASTIC job. Hell, most of them do an excellent job and I'm a rank 1 master player, so I'd like to think i'm picky with casting details. While I understand that at times, casters are not perfect, I think instead of condemning them publicly, why not PM them with your concern?

Why wouldn't you do this?
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
ChewbroCColi
Profile Joined July 2009
Denmark108 Posts
May 24 2012 00:57 GMT
#268
On May 24 2012 08:21 zmansman17 wrote:
I like the fact that Sc2 has a vocal community.

I don't like the fact that so many people are so quick to judge and/or criticize casters.

It feels like whenever I go on reddit and sometimes even TL there is a new topic about how Caster X is doing a poor job for Reasons Y & Z. If it's not Tasteless, it's HD, or that guy from Playhem, or Catzpajamas, Doa, Khaldor, Apollo, even Day 9 at times. I mean come on people.

I appreciate so much of what they do and Wolf and Khaldor in particular do a FANTASTIC job. Hell, most of them do an excellent job and I'm a rank 1 master player, so I'd like to think i'm picky with casting details. While I understand that at times, casters are not perfect, I think instead of condemning them publicly, why not PM them with your concern?

Why wouldn't you do this?


I couldn't agree more.
People are being way too critical towards the casters, and especially Wolf is doing great.
Kharnage
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia920 Posts
May 24 2012 01:33 GMT
#269
I really enjoy the code A casting, with the singular exception of when SOMETHING EXCITING HAPPENS AND NOW WE NEED TO YELL ABOUT EVERYTHING!!

If Wolf / Khaldor would work on being excited without resorting to yelling that would be awesome!
Zealot Lord
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong748 Posts
May 24 2012 01:40 GMT
#270
I felt like Wolf improved again from yesterdays Code A casting - he was starting to give credit to the player who lost (which he rarely did before), and was less bluntly critical on mistakes as well.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 01:57:54
May 24 2012 01:57 GMT
#271
On May 24 2012 09:57 ChewbroCColi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 08:21 zmansman17 wrote:
I like the fact that Sc2 has a vocal community.

I don't like the fact that so many people are so quick to judge and/or criticize casters.

It feels like whenever I go on reddit and sometimes even TL there is a new topic about how Caster X is doing a poor job for Reasons Y & Z. If it's not Tasteless, it's HD, or that guy from Playhem, or Catzpajamas, Doa, Khaldor, Apollo, even Day 9 at times. I mean come on people.

I appreciate so much of what they do and Wolf and Khaldor in particular do a FANTASTIC job. Hell, most of them do an excellent job and I'm a rank 1 master player, so I'd like to think i'm picky with casting details. While I understand that at times, casters are not perfect, I think instead of condemning them publicly, why not PM them with your concern?

Why wouldn't you do this?


I couldn't agree more.
People are being way too critical towards the casters, and especially Wolf is doing great.


Where have I heard this before..
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
May 24 2012 06:51 GMT
#272
Wolf , try not to talk bad about the players , you 50% of the time when a player is doing something you always say : this is very bad for him , try to say : this can work but if it will not , the X player will be behind , or something like that , dont just say : he is bad he does bad things etc . thanks , other then this i rly enjoy your casting
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 07:08:47
May 24 2012 07:08 GMT
#273
Wolf and Khaldor are so much more enjoyable than Doa and Moletrap... Best Code A casters so far
Whattttt Upppppppp Im Nesteaaaaaa!!
SwiftSpear
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada355 Posts
May 24 2012 07:40 GMT
#274
I'm not gonna vote. I've never liked wolf. His accent, middle america kid, it just doesn't interest me at all. He's always rubbed me as a derpy individual.

I'd never mute a caster, still, wolf is the GSL caster I'm least interested in. I don't think there's something he can change to win me over as a caster, but I just don't think I'm the market he's a good fit for, so I don't think my opinion is worth anything to him.
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
May 24 2012 21:39 GMT
#275
On May 24 2012 09:57 ChewbroCColi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 08:21 zmansman17 wrote:
I like the fact that Sc2 has a vocal community.

I don't like the fact that so many people are so quick to judge and/or criticize casters.

It feels like whenever I go on reddit and sometimes even TL there is a new topic about how Caster X is doing a poor job for Reasons Y & Z. If it's not Tasteless, it's HD, or that guy from Playhem, or Catzpajamas, Doa, Khaldor, Apollo, even Day 9 at times. I mean come on people.

I appreciate so much of what they do and Wolf and Khaldor in particular do a FANTASTIC job. Hell, most of them do an excellent job and I'm a rank 1 master player, so I'd like to think i'm picky with casting details. While I understand that at times, casters are not perfect, I think instead of condemning them publicly, why not PM them with your concern?

Why wouldn't you do this?


I couldn't agree more.
People are being way too critical towards the casters, and especially Wolf is doing great.


Yep, I'm not certain why there is the temptation to attack casters personally. Even professional advice is best given privately through a PM.
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
SeinGalton
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
South Africa387 Posts
May 24 2012 22:15 GMT
#276
Hello Wolf.

I've really enjoyed your casting in Code A, you provide a lot of good insight and mix in some great banter and humour. The only thing I'd criticize is, ironically, that I feel you are too quick to criticize players. I think those games put a tremendous amount of pressure on the players and it's difficult to account for what exactly is going through their minds. I not only think it's a little unfair towards the player, more importantly I feel it detracts from the cast. I think you can spin these things to create more suspense around the game. Pit the players against one another in the cast: instead of criticizing one player for making blunders, rather emphasize how the other player might be getting under his skin or how the other player has thrown him off. It makes it feel like a duel rather than "race" where one player collapses. It also gives credit to the game as being incredibly tough, rather than detract from its players.

And this is really important I feel: pitting the players against one another in the commentary, whenever possible. Framing the contest as to people trying to 'murder' one another starts to create a story and allows for better, more intense and suspenseful casting, if not also easier casting. This is what makes Artosis so unbelievably good at casting.

Those are my two cents, and I hope you are able to find them useful!
They're coming to get you, Barbara.
HotShizz
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
France710 Posts
May 29 2012 11:40 GMT
#277
On May 25 2012 07:15 SeinGalton wrote:
Hello Wolf.

I've really enjoyed your casting in Code A, you provide a lot of good insight and mix in some great banter and humour. The only thing I'd criticize is, ironically, that I feel you are too quick to criticize players. I think those games put a tremendous amount of pressure on the players and it's difficult to account for what exactly is going through their minds. I not only think it's a little unfair towards the player, more importantly I feel it detracts from the cast. I think you can spin these things to create more suspense around the game. Pit the players against one another in the cast: instead of criticizing one player for making blunders, rather emphasize how the other player might be getting under his skin or how the other player has thrown him off. It makes it feel like a duel rather than "race" where one player collapses. It also gives credit to the game as being incredibly tough, rather than detract from its players.

And this is really important I feel: pitting the players against one another in the commentary, whenever possible. Framing the contest as to people trying to 'murder' one another starts to create a story and allows for better, more intense and suspenseful casting, if not also easier casting. This is what makes Artosis so unbelievably good at casting.

Those are my two cents, and I hope you are able to find them useful!



After today's cast in the GSTL I think I agree with the first half of this guys sentiments. You spent ninety (hyperbole) percent of your time saying that this player is doing something wrong, but didn't spend nearly as much time saying what the other guy was doing right. It's important to note that someone is behind, but I think it's more important to say what the other person is doing to put himself in a better situation. For example, during the TLO match, you spent a lot of time saying TLO was losing he had less roaches, etc, but not nearly enough time talking about Life or his choices that led to TLO being behind. TLO's upgrades are behind, not Life's upgrades are ahead. It's just about how you spin the statement that turns it from a negative into a positive.

I think that if I could ask anything from you, it would be to see the good and quit harping on the bad. I'm not asking you to sugar coat it and say that oh well player X is only down 150 supply he has a chance to come back, that's just false for the sake of creating drama, but if you could spend more time saying player Y is 150 food ahead rather than player X is 150 behind, it just seems more positive.

Anyway, just my 2 cents. :D
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
May 29 2012 11:43 GMT
#278
I really enjoy Wolf, I think he is doing an excellent job. I don't agree with the criticism that he is too negative.
Delta-V
Profile Joined March 2011
New Zealand43 Posts
May 29 2012 12:24 GMT
#279
On May 24 2012 06:39 Diabulus wrote:
Wolf needs to learn to try to stop the analysis commentating, i forever MUTE him now because of his most famous quote.......... "Pylons dont actually give vision" -.-; thank god (Flash ofc) that moletrap isnt there anymore to agree with him......"Yea Wolf, i believe your right, they need a unit there in order to warp in".... -.- needisaymore?


It was actually Doa who said that.
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
May 29 2012 12:27 GMT
#280
Wolf is the best of the code A casters.
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