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EyeSeeEm
Germany18 Posts
On May 08 2012 06:47 Hoodlum wrote: When I try to activate the plugin, it pops up an alert saying update check and then freezes  Same here. Had both previous versions installed. Also happens when I delete the new one and replace it with my old 1.0 folder. Edit: The very first version works fine though. | ||
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Toons
Australia136 Posts
Or do we need to send it somewhere? (high dia, playing masters ppl sometimes) | ||
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TechSc2
Netherlands554 Posts
The graph shows me that i dropped in MMR even after i won a game ( playing only masters). The difference in the graph feels right according to what blizzard says to me when a game starts ( even, slightly favoured, favoured ) so that seems alright but i'm guessing something with the post calculation what feels off to me. Or is that only me? if so i'm happy to post my graphs/match history if you can do something with that. I still had bonus pool, i'm not sure if my opponent had leftover bonus pool | ||
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Not_That
287 Posts
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TechSc2
Netherlands554 Posts
I played 25 games today, and i lost 10 and won 15, but my mmr is actually only 16 points higher then the start of this session. My mmr is almost rock solid, and with the problem that my mmr actually dropped while winning ( 3-4 times now ) but never went up when loosing, gives me reason there is something amiss with the formula to calculate it. I will keep providing games with this tool to clarify these things because i am very interested in seeing such hidden rating. Btw my last played game was against a favoured opponent ( gave me 18 points for a win ) and it dropped my MMR by 29 points. pm me if you want screenshots or anything else to analyze this BTW this is me assuming that the program gets MMR after a game, not before | ||
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Lefthanded
United States67 Posts
still unable to enable the plugin...version check is failing to do anything. The plugin details says its version 1.0 tho...is it supposed to say 1.1? | ||
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Not_That
287 Posts
On May 08 2012 11:14 TechSc2 wrote: Just another note, and again this is me throwing out there what i feel is going on with my mmr. I played 25 games today, and i lost 10 and won 15, but my mmr is actually only 16 points higher then the start of this session. My mmr is almost rock solid, and with the problem that my mmr actually dropped while winning ( 3-4 times now ) but never went up when loosing, gives me reason there is something amiss with the formula to calculate it. I will keep providing games with this tool to clarify these things because i am very interested in seeing such hidden rating. Btw my last played game was against a favoured opponent ( gave me 18 points for a win ) and it dropped my MMR by 29 points. pm me if you want screenshots or anything else to analyze this BTW this is me assuming that the program gets MMR after a game, not before That won't be necessary, your games data are in the file with the others and I reviewed them there. The program calculates your MMR before the match based on your opponent's adjusted points change. I believe this is the part you're referring to: - You won on Ohana vs opponent (spelzu) with an unknown MMR (for some reason plugin failed to read your points change, which is +12 non adjusted points from your profile page, not entirely sure but I think you got 12 adjusted points, which put your opponent's MMR at 215+-16). Your MMR before the game was 234+-16. - You lost a game on cloud kingdom vs opponent (again spelzu) with an incorrectly calculated MMR of 567+-16 (plugin read incorrectly your points change as -1, your real points change was -13, and MMR of opponent 195+-16). Your MMR before the game was 255+-16. - You won a game on Ohana vs opponent (nyan) with MMR of 438+-16. Your MMR before the game was 226+-16. The only thing to take from your data is that the problems we noticed for SEA battle net profile pages updating slowly are not confined to SEA alone, but can also happen on Europe. This is bad news. If you're referring to another set of matches let me know. Having said all this, I am aware of one case where F gives an apparent MMR drop after a win. I suspect this is a special case that may have something to do with players that have a high sigma (uncertainty) value and/or low number of games played. However these are the exception not the rule. | ||
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TechSc2
Netherlands554 Posts
On May 08 2012 13:17 Not_That wrote: That won't be necessary, your games data are in the file with the others and I reviewed them there. The program calculates your MMR before the match based on your opponent's adjusted points change. I believe this is the part you're referring to: - You won on Ohana vs opponent (spelzu) with an unknown MMR (for some reason plugin failed to read your points change, which is +12 non adjusted points from your profile page, not entirely sure but I think you got 12 adjusted points, which put your opponent's MMR at 215+-16). Your MMR before the game was 234+-16. - You lost a game on cloud kingdom vs opponent (again spelzu) with an incorrectly calculated MMR of 567+-16 (plugin read incorrectly your points change as -1, your real points change was -13, and MMR of opponent 195+-16). Your MMR before the game was 255+-16. - You won a game on Ohana vs opponent (nyan) with MMR of 438+-16. Your MMR before the game was 226+-16. The only thing to take from your data is that the problems we noticed for SEA battle net profile pages updating slowly are not confined to SEA alone, but can also happen on Europe. This is bad news. If you're referring to another set of matches let me know. Having said all this, I am aware of one case where F gives an apparent MMR drop after a win. I suspect this is a special case that may have something to do with players that have a high sigma (uncertainty) value and/or low number of games played. However these are the exception not the rule. Yes these games are the one that were the most apparent in these cases you got the right ones. why whole series of last night had a few of these flaws in there. Hope you figure out what causes this  | ||
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DecisionTheory
78 Posts
On May 07 2012 10:49 RotterdamBlt wrote: Yeah, I've tried a couple times. Still no change I am having the same problem as this guy | ||
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DecisionTheory
78 Posts
On May 08 2012 15:41 DecisionTheory wrote: I am having the same problem as this guy Never mind just figured it out, open the file mmrplugin once, then youll see the exact same file again, copy and paste that one to your sc2gears plugins then follow the rest of the directions | ||
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
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Cassel_Castle
United States820 Posts
GM +1715 Masters +1285 Diamond +946 Platinum +733 Gold +552 Silver +339 Bronze +0 of course | ||
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Powster
United States650 Posts
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Jadu
Sweden54 Posts
On May 08 2012 16:23 Powster wrote: When I press enable plugin.. it feezes with a popup box saying "version check" same here mine says version 1.0 too, kinda strange. | ||
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Slemp
Germany31 Posts
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C[h]ili
Germany167 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=mastermmrnpi7p.png) + Show Spoiler + Only master vs master games have been used. Per game, the data set shows two MMR ratings and two identifiers and I use those as seperate data points. In case an identifier has more than one entry, I take the average MMR of that identifier. Note that I do not differentiate between servers, something potentially hazardous. The fact that I did not use Diamond vs Master data may have an impact on the distribution, however, I think these effects are limited because I average over all games per player. I think your project could benefit from a more detailed description of how the data entries are defined. Some questions that came to my mind: Which MMR is player MMR, which opponent MMR? Does every player have a unique identifier? And so on. P.S.: Alright, now I know that I am a low Master | ||
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Juisson
Finland52 Posts
On May 08 2012 16:54 Jadu wrote: same here mine says version 1.0 too, kinda strange.I have this problem as well. | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
Im working on it, Still not sure but i looks like sc2gears have problem handle big plugins.... Nice that you use the data new one come soon. i discuss the data related things later | ||
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SEA KarMa
Australia452 Posts
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
Should fix the activate bug. You still have to wait a while. Sorry but sc2gears acts strange sometimes, take a while to find out what he dont like on my plugin because he crashed without error message. Also settings are now outsite of the puluginmanager in the program. | ||
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