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SirPsychoMantis
Profile Joined December 2011
United States180 Posts
May 03 2012 19:52 GMT
#41
I haven't downloaded yet, but are you going to open source this?
Zerg #1
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
May 03 2012 20:04 GMT
#42
Hi again >< So I have 2 questions,
1: The plugin doesn't seem to be plotting my MMR after each game on the graph, I don't know if this is an intended consequence of the beta version but just wanted to relay information.

2: When I play vs GM's regardless of if I win or lose, I get an error message, yet my opponent always has his MMR displayed. I know you were looking for purely masters results in the OP so I don't know if this is to be expected due to me still being in Masters league.

3: I lied >.> Do you have the intention to eventually release a version that allows functionality for more than 1 account? It'd be nice to have separate graphs for each server

Thanks again!
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
roym899
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany426 Posts
May 03 2012 20:43 GMT
#43
On May 04 2012 05:04 Badfatpanda wrote:
Hi again >< So I have 2 questions,
1: The plugin doesn't seem to be plotting my MMR after each game on the graph, I don't know if this is an intended consequence of the beta version but just wanted to relay information.

2: When I play vs GM's regardless of if I win or lose, I get an error message, yet my opponent always has his MMR displayed. I know you were looking for purely masters results in the OP so I don't know if this is to be expected due to me still being in Masters league.

3: I lied >.> Do you have the intention to eventually release a version that allows functionality for more than 1 account? It'd be nice to have separate graphs for each server

Thanks again!

Samething @1.
Pylons
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada54 Posts
May 03 2012 20:47 GMT
#44
Just a general question about MMR, if you are facing lower ranked masters players and winning 55% of the time, wouldn't it be impossible/very hard to get to high master (800-900 points, since it's a new season). Nice program though, thanks
Sectorix
Profile Joined December 2010
Israel40 Posts
May 03 2012 20:57 GMT
#45
good job man !
better burn out than fade away.
Geos13
Profile Joined May 2011
437 Posts
May 03 2012 20:58 GMT
#46
I'm a diamond player and I just installed this plugin. It seems to have installed correctly but there is no graph appearing after playing games. I have only faced one masters player though if that matters. Thanks and great work!
Vladix
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands227 Posts
May 03 2012 21:13 GMT
#47
On May 04 2012 05:58 Geos13 wrote:
I'm a diamond player and I just installed this plugin. It seems to have installed correctly but there is no graph appearing after playing games. I have only faced one masters player though if that matters. Thanks and great work!


Same here also diamond, faced diamonds and masters.
If i played a master it says my data has an error and if i play a diamond he gets the error message.
No graph and my mmr is between 4 and 300+

So guess you have to be masters AND play masters.
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
May 03 2012 21:46 GMT
#48
midmaster here, also no graph.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 22:16:23
May 03 2012 22:04 GMT
#49
Added a faq at the end.

On May 04 2012 04:52 SirPsychoMantis wrote:
I haven't downloaded yet, but are you going to open source this?

comes with next version.


It is normal that you dont have a graph!
The tool dont get the information form the replay.
That is impossible. It use sc2gear to notice the replay-end and to get the player-names.
You see your data AFTER playing a game. (you should see the red word "COLLECTION" for 12 sec than you see the gamedata if its valid)


Thank you guys for the data so far.
With all this data i can stop 6 pooling the ladder to get data

Save gaming: kill esport
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
May 03 2012 22:21 GMT
#50
On May 04 2012 07:04 skeldark wrote:


It is normal that you dont have a graph!
The tool dont get the information form the replay.
That is impossible. It use sc2gear to notice the replay-end and to get the player-names.
You see your data AFTER playing a game. (you should see the red word "COLLECTION" for 12 sec than you see the gamedata if its valid)





i don't get it. i have 13/13 valid reps but still no graph. when do i get one?
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12252 Posts
May 03 2012 22:22 GMT
#51
Does this tool take into account the bonus pool rollover time? For example, if I play against an opponent who has 0 bonus pool and I lose, and he wins +13 points, is the tool capable of identifying whether he won +13(+0) or +12(+1 bonus)? In this scenario, the bonus pool will have ticked over during the course of the game.
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skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 22:35:42
May 03 2012 22:28 GMT
#52
On May 04 2012 07:21 Greenei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 07:04 skeldark wrote:


It is normal that you dont have a graph!
The tool dont get the information form the replay.
That is impossible. It use sc2gear to notice the replay-end and to get the player-names.
You see your data AFTER playing a game. (you should see the red word "COLLECTION" for 12 sec than you see the gamedata if its valid)



i don't get it. i have 13/13 valid reps but still no graph. when do i get one?

post your last game data.
if you are not master you must disable the checkbox top left but if you do so your data is not really accurate!
Whats your ingame name? i can not find you in the database.


On May 04 2012 07:22 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Does this tool take into account the bonus pool rollover time? For example, if I play against an opponent who has 0 bonus pool and I lose, and he wins +13 points, is the tool capable of identifying whether he won +13(+0) or +12(+1 bonus)? In this scenario, the bonus pool will have ticked over during the course of the game.

It does. Thats the reason for all the "Bad data not your fault".
There are ways to find out what the +x is. For 50% i will code it into next version.
For the rest 50% i would be forced to hack the sc2 ram. Dont know if i want to do this.
It also recalculate "under master bonus" because its wrong on the bnet page.

Save gaming: kill esport
Peleus
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia420 Posts
May 04 2012 00:03 GMT
#53
This is amazing, thank you so much!

Question: Does this calculate if you play against GM opponents, or only masters? (I understand not diamond and below)

Request: Can a future version please allow us to have multiple profiles? I.e. I'd love to track the MMR of my SEA, NA and KR account, smurf account etc. I can't imagine it would be to hard, simply have more battle.net profile entries and plot each as a separate series on the graph.

Thanks so much.
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 00:09:02
May 04 2012 00:08 GMT
#54
I did not have a graph at the beginning but some hours later after restarting sc2gears i had one.

Not sure if that is connected to the restart so.^^
Cj hero | Zest
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 00:12:50
May 04 2012 00:11 GMT
#55
works now.

whats the difference between fat and skinny lines?
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skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 00:34:20
May 04 2012 00:32 GMT
#56
On May 04 2012 09:03 Peleus wrote:
This is amazing, thank you so much!
Question: Does this calculate if you play against GM opponents, or only masters? (I understand not diamond and below)
Request: Can a future version please allow us to have multiple profiles? I.e. I'd love to track the MMR of my SEA, NA and KR account, smurf account etc. I can't imagine it would be to hard, simply have more battle.net profile entries and plot each as a separate series on the graph.

Thanks so much.

Thank you
it does if you unebable know tiers. Gm is most likly around +430 on eu and us but unknown on sea
will put multiaccount into the todo list

On May 04 2012 09:08 OrbitalPlane wrote:
I did not have a graph at the beginning but some hours later after restarting sc2gears i had one.

Not sure if that is connected to the restart so.^^

You should see new data 20 seconds after game.
if the graph dont refresh try to click unclick the "know tier only" box


On May 04 2012 09:11 Greenei wrote:
works now.

whats the difference between fat and skinny lines?

Fat round is you.
skinny is the opponents you played.
Mouseover the dots to see the value, mousewheel to zoom the graph.


----
First 500 dataset is in the op now!
Save gaming: kill esport
Peleus
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia420 Posts
May 04 2012 00:47 GMT
#57
Hmm, tried my first game and unfortunately it seems as though it's got some type of bad data. I understand that the message says 'not my fault', but is there anything I can do to fix it?

--- GAMESTART ---
VALID: true
ERROR:
TIME: 1336092123572
Player1_won true

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: true ---
Error_Mes:
playername: Peleus
id: 87970
playerlink: http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/87970/1/Peleus/
server: SEA
league: master
division_name: Uraj Kappa
gamedate: 5/4/2012
mapname: Cloud Kingdom LE
totalbonuspool: 311
Wins: 224
Looses: 191
points: 690
bonus: 1
change_points: 22
adjusted_points: 358
offset: 0
offsetknown: 0
mmr: -60
PLAYEREND

--- PLAYERSTART VALID: false ---
Error_Mes: Bad Data not your fault!
playername: onsExilemic
id: 189004
playerlink: http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/189004/1/onsExilemic/
server: SEA
league: grandmaster
division_name: Hellion Upsilon
gamedate: 5/4/2012
mapname: Cloud Kingdom LE
totalbonuspool: 311
Wins: 39
Looses: 28
points: 320
bonus: 12
change_points: -15
adjusted_points: 36
offset: 0
offsetknown: 0
mmr: -9998
PLAYEREND
--- GAMEEND ---
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 00:57:07
May 04 2012 00:56 GMT
#58
On May 04 2012 09:47 Peleus wrote:
Hmm, tried my first game and unfortunately it seems as though it's got some type of bad data. I understand that the message says 'not my fault', but is there anything I can do to fix it?


Not your fault, nothing to fix. The game just dont have enough data to calculate the mmr of your opponent but enough to calculate yours.
Thats because you won and have no bonuspool. So i can not tell how much of your +22 was bonuspool and how much was gamewin.

Because your enemy is gm your mmr is not really -60
Thats a very interesting game you have there, we need such games to calculate the sea gm offset.

Save gaming: kill esport
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 00:58:44
May 04 2012 00:56 GMT
#59
the dataset looks like chaos to me. How do i open and use it?

Sometimes the opponents MMR is also displayed. Is that the case when he uses the tool too? ::Edit u answered that above::

My last game says my opponents MMR is 853 und my MMR is 385. Can that be right? I thought only people who had close MMR would match against each other.
(Is a fairly new account so, only approximately 40 ladder games played)
Cj hero | Zest
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 01:01:47
May 04 2012 01:01 GMT
#60
On May 04 2012 09:56 OrbitalPlane wrote:
the dataset looks like chaos to me. How do i open and use it?

openoffice or office exel.


Sometimes the opponents MMR is also displayed. Is that the case when he uses the tool too?

no i can calculate this on your data. Mmr is calculated on the opponent. I only care who of the two is the player and who the opponent for the graph display.


My last game says my opponents MMR is 853 und my MMR is 385. Can that be right? I thought only people who had close MMR would match against each other.
(Is a fairly new account so, only approximately 40 ladder games played)

Both master? Thats not often but can happen. You can only trust your data if the opponent was master or the opponents data if you are master.

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