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leopardb

Germany92 Posts

April 22 2015 08:32 GMT

#4041

On April 22 2015 16:03 korona wrote:
2015-04-22: Web profiles have still not been updated fully to new season --> DB remains locked!

Blizzard still has not updated the web profiles fully. Regarding MMR tool the main problem is that they show remaining bonus pool only for last season ladder and not for the current season. As the remaining bonus pool is unknown, no reliable calculations are possible. I have checked the profiles at least once a day thus far.

Thanks for the update man !

Steglich

Denmark282 Posts

April 23 2015 04:15 GMT

#4042

So does this mean that the MMR tool currently doesnt work?

korona

1098 Posts

April 23 2015 05:50 GMT

#4043

On April 23 2015 13:15 Steglich wrote:

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So does this mean that the MMR tool currently doesnt work?

It does record the games and can use them as estimate games later on. But it does not get new 'good results' before Blizzard has fixed the profiles & new DB file is published (estimates are based on the good results + average MMR change rates).

Edit: As of 2015-04-23 morning both NA and EU web profiles are still suffering from the problem
Edit: 2015-04-25: Web profile problem continues (bonus pool is only shown for last season's divisions). At start of last 4 to 5 seasons there has been similar problem except the profiles have returned randomly either correct or incorrect data. This time they return 100% times incorrect data.

smuream

2 Posts

April 25 2015 09:54 GMT

#4044

On April 19 2015 10:40 korona wrote:

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On April 18 2015 23:47 smuream wrote:
Hey there,
I just started reusing MMR Stats, installed the 22.0 DB and all but it doesn't work.
It doesn't do the post trigger stuff. Only the pre trigger

LOG FILE:
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15:56:35 MMR-Stats 10.3
15:56:35 --------INIT START--------
15:56:35 OK Encoding: OK
15:56:35 OK Sc2Gears auto-save is enabled.
15:56:35 Loading HOTS DB file...
15:56:35 OK Loading DB version 22.0 done
15:56:41 UPDATE: New DB avalable!
15:56:41 Downloading new DB File...
15:56:41 Loading legacy DB file...
15:56:41 ERROR: LOAD legacy DB lenght check failed
15:56:41 FATALERROR Datahandler: failed to download new Database file
15:56:41 Loading HOTS DB file...
15:56:41 OK Loading DB version 22.0 done
15:56:41 Loading character profiles:
15:56:41 Profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2246218/1/Muream/
15:56:41 OK Settings loaded!
15:56:41 No Data Found!
15:56:41 Loading Archive...
15:56:41 No Data Found!
15:56:41 Memory scanner is enabled
15:56:41 OK Triggers ready!
15:56:42 OK Timeclient: Systemtime offset: 0 sec
15:56:42 DB has been locked for following servers (new games are set invalid): US, EU, KR, SEA, CN
15:56:42 Unranked detection for LOST new games has been disabled for following servers (remove recorded unranked games manually): US, EU, KR, SEA, CN
15:56:43 UPDATE: Found new program version!
15:56:43 --------INIT END--------
15:58:07 --------------------------
15:58:07 Game Start detected
15:58:07 Searching memory for character profiles for game HotS
15:58:07 Reading Memory ...OK
15:58:07 Ramscanner: name1 : boromir
15:58:07 Ramscanner: id1 : 1-1429431
15:58:07 Ramscanner: name2 : Muream
15:58:07 Ramscanner: id2 : 1-2246218
15:58:07 OK Found Memory-Profile in Active-Profiles!
15:58:47 Pre-trigger: Reading web profiles
15:58:51 Webgrabber: Player true
15:58:54 Webgrabber: Opponent true
15:58:54 Pre-trigger: Done reading web profiles
15:58:54 Pre-Trigger: player 1:
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2246218/1/Muream/
15:58:54 Pre-Trigger: player 2:
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1429431/1/boromir/
15:58:54 Pre-Trigger done
16:12:44 --------------------------
16:12:44 Game Start detected
16:12:44 Searching memory for character profiles for game HotS
16:12:44 Reading Memory ...OK
16:12:44 Ramscanner: name1 : Muream
16:12:44 Ramscanner: id1 : 1-2246218
16:12:44 Ramscanner: name2 : NoOnAL
16:12:44 Ramscanner: id2 : 1-3366202
16:12:44 OK Found Memory-Profile in Active-Profiles!
16:13:24 Pre-trigger: Reading web profiles
16:13:28 Webgrabber: Player true
16:13:32 Webgrabber: Opponent true
16:13:32 Pre-trigger: Done reading web profiles
16:13:32 Pre-Trigger: player 1:
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2246218/1/Muream/
16:13:32 Pre-Trigger: player 2:
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3366202/1/NoOnAL/
16:13:32 Pre-Trigger done
16:29:20 --------------------------
16:29:20 Game Start detected
16:29:20 Searching memory for character profiles for game HotS
16:29:20 Reading Memory ...OK
16:29:20 Ramscanner: name1 : Muream
16:29:20 Ramscanner: id1 : 1-2246218
16:29:20 Ramscanner: name2 : Artum
16:29:20 Ramscanner: id2 : 2-785595
16:29:20 OK Found Memory-Profile in Active-Profiles!
16:30:00 Pre-trigger: Reading web profiles
16:30:03 Webgrabber: Player true
16:30:07 Webgrabber: Opponent true
16:30:07 Pre-trigger: Done reading web profiles
16:30:07 Pre-Trigger: player 1:
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2246218/1/Muream/
16:30:07 Pre-Trigger: player 2:
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/785595/2/Artum/
16:30:07 Pre-Trigger done

And thanks for the tool, it's pretty neat!

You likely have some configuration problems regarding the sc2gears autosave. The post-trigger is fired when sc2gears autosave replay file.

In Sc2gears go to 'Settings' > 'Miscellaneous settings' and check contents of '1 Repaly auto-save' and 'Folders' tabs. You can test out that replay auto-save settings are ok with custom games too.

Oh yeah, stupid me, the replay folder wasn't the right one, thanks!

Death916

United States23 Posts

April 27 2015 05:21 GMT

#4045

Unfortunate this isn't working proper lately. I love this tool.

No word from Blizz when the profiles will update correctly?

korona

1098 Posts

April 27 2015 13:24 GMT

#4046

On April 27 2015 14:21 Death916 wrote:
Unfortunate this isn't working proper lately. I love this tool.

No word from Blizz when the profiles will update correctly?

No word from Blizzard (they never comment these kind of problems so we won't even know if they know about the problem). Just checked both NA and EU profiles. The problem continues.

Of course you could add a bug report on Website issues forum (note it should be neutral and not mention any third party tools such as MMR tool by name): http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/13441/

It could be such as: "The web profiles have not fully been updated to reflect season 2/2015. Some profile pages still show last season's data such as the main page and icon borders. Also the remaining bonus pools are not shown for new season's ladder division pages (remaining bonus pools are only available for last season's divisions). Thus it is not possible to calculate player's adjusted points based on the web profiles as remaining bonus points are unknown. This issue is affecting web profiles of multiple different servers (at least EU and NA)"

Exceed_SC2

United States13 Posts

April 29 2015 02:34 GMT

#4047

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3293298/1/Exceed/ladder/leagues#current-rank

It seems to be working now, The bonus for this season is being shown and it has my current points and everything.

sellitall

4 Posts

April 29 2015 03:36 GMT

#4048

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korona

1098 Posts

April 29 2015 07:55 GMT

#4049

On April 29 2015 11:34 Exceed_SC2 wrote:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3293298/1/Exceed/ladder/leagues#current-rank

It seems to be working now, The bonus for this season is being shown and it has my current points and everything.

Good finally! I will check if the profiles are stable and calculate the bonus pool starting times later at the evening (EU time). If everything is ok, the new DB should be publishable either later today or tomorrow.

(It takes time to solve bonus pool start times. Especially when I will poll profiles several 'rounds' to get accurate starting time / to be sure the profiles are stable)

Edit 2015-04-29 late evening. After first polling round the web profiles seem to be stable. Now second round is running. But I will likely not publish new DB file today as I am very tired. So expect new DB file sometime tomorrow Thursday.

korona

1098 Posts

April 30 2015 08:22 GMT

#4050

2015-04-30: DB file (v 22.1) is available as Blizzard updated the web profiles for the new season. DB file requires MANUAL INSTALLATION!

Yesterday Blizzard updated the web profiles to correspond the new season. Thus a new DB was published that sets the bonus pool accumulation starting times & unlocks the data (good results are once more possible). But remember the new league offsets are still unknown and thus the results likely don't correspond old league barriers (good results from same league opponents are comparable with each others, after new offsets are known these will be automatically fixed).

You can download the DB file version 22.1:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9cmd997qqzqgohe/bnet_data_22_1.zip

Your current DB file version is shown at the top of the main log of the MMR tool. You can install the new DB by unzipping the downloaded packet to following folder: [PATH_TO]\Sc2gears\User content\Plugin file cache\mmr.plugin.MMRPlugin\

Please note that the Sc2gears should be closed when you install the DB file. When you restart it, the new file will be loaded (you can check the version number from the main log, note that it will likely say that version checker failed one row later, but that is not serious - it just cannot reach the server to check what is the latest file).

Also in near future we hope to publish new version of MMR tool that uses different server to be able to collect data to solve the new offsets (+ automates the updates). This version will require manual installation. The old pre-offset change data will also be archived in some future version of MMR tool. But that will likely not make it into the next version (especially as it is still unknown did they change KR, CN and SEA offsets), but should be available when new offsets are solved. You will be informed in this thread when new version is published.

Chanyman

Australia142 Posts

May 05 2015 04:52 GMT

#4051

I love you way too much Korona, this stuff is awesome, keep up the good work ^^ :D

NWilson

1 Post

May 06 2015 13:15 GMT

#4052

I am really looking forward to a new-server-version!

(As well as - but not as importent - to a standalone-version or a version for scelight.)

korona

1098 Posts

May 06 2015 17:15 GMT

#4053

On May 06 2015 22:15 NWilson wrote:
I am really looking forward to a new-server-version!

(As well as - but not as importent - to a standalone-version or a version for scelight.)

We will see if the new version makes it out this weekend. Hoped to get it out week or two ago, but had some problems with new server. Most of the changes have been done, but there is testing to be done, which determines when it can be published (both practical testing and preparing some special scenarios to test some of the internal changes. For example one of the features that I need to test will likely require 0.5 to 1 hours by itself even if the tests are quite simple ones (preparations take time), but not sure which day have time / and be not too tired. And it is not the only thing that needs to be tested).

Regarding the standalone or Scelight version it will likely not happen near future unless Blizzard makes big changes to replay files. And yes then solution would be either standalone (using different parser) or Scelight version. Regarding Scelight I made few comments in its thread recently: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24154636 and http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24155205

yurisan

Poland35 Posts

May 08 2015 21:33 GMT

#4054

hi,

is there a way to make mmr plugin independent of sc2gears' auto save replay folder. i would prefer to not have an additional replays folder in my file system while having already all of my replays seaved by the game. cant mmr plugin use the default SC2 folder for replays ?

korona

1098 Posts

May 08 2015 23:02 GMT

#4055

On May 09 2015 06:33 yurisan wrote:
hi,

is there a way to make mmr plugin independent of sc2gears' auto save replay folder. i would prefer to not have an additional replays folder in my file system while having already all of my replays seaved by the game. cant mmr plugin use the default SC2 folder for replays ?

Sc2gears can use your normal ladder replays folder as destination. For example all my replays are stored where the game would store them if I had auto-save enabled from the game (I don't have in-game auto-save enabled as sc2gears auto-saves them and renames them).

Select Settings -> Miscellaneous settings > Folders and set the Sc2gears replay auto-save folder to what you want.

yurisan

Poland35 Posts

May 08 2015 23:33 GMT

#4056

thanks. yeah i had already redirected the folder to be inside sc2gears folder and not directly in C:\ but still (even if inside the default SC2 folder) it is redundant. I only want one folder for replays and each of them only once on my hdd.
And i want to use SC2 to autosave my replays. Actually sc2gears has the option to disable autosave but then mmr tool starts complaining...

korona

1098 Posts

May 09 2015 13:00 GMT

#4057

On May 09 2015 08:33 yurisan wrote:
thanks. yeah i had already redirected the folder to be inside sc2gears folder and not directly in C:\ but still (even if inside the default SC2 folder) it is redundant. I only want one folder for replays and each of them only once on my hdd.
And i want to use SC2 to autosave my replays. Actually sc2gears has the option to disable autosave but then mmr tool starts complaining...

I don't fully understand what you mean. So lets look at things (in examples the drive is c, even if it can be something else for you, also things inside [] differ from user to user. Also these are sc2gears settings (Settings > Miscellaneous settings)):

Sc2 saves replays under (if auto-save is not enabled):
C:\Users\[USERNAME]\Documents\StarCraft II\Accounts\[NUMBERS]\[YOUR_LONG_ID]\Replays\Unsaved\Multiplayer\

If SC2 auto-save is enabled it moves the replays to:
C:\Users\[USERNAME]\Documents\StarCraft II\Accounts\[NUMBERS]\[YOUR_LONG_ID]\Replays\Multiplayer\

Now in SC2gears you want to set the 'SC2 auto replay folder (relative to user home)' to (Folders tab):
\Documents\StarCraft II\Accounts\[NUMBERS]\[YOUR_LONG_ID]\Replays\Unsaved\Multiplayer

And 'Sc2gears replay auto-save folder' to (note this is not relative to user home like the previous):
C:\Users\[USERNAME]\Documents\StarCraft II\Accounts\[NUMBERS]\[YOUR_LONG_ID]\Replays\Multiplayer

As Sc2gears auto-saves the replays to the folder sc2 would, you should disable auto-save from the SC2. Sc2gears wont delete the replays from 'Unsaved\Multiplayer' unless you also enable 'Delete auto-saved replays' on '1 Replay auto-save' tab.

After this there is only 1 replay from each match and it is stored where sc2 would store the saved replays.

Off topic: if you need nice naming template for the auto-saved replays you could for example use this

/D /p1 (/r1) vs /p2 (/r2) /W1./e

It outputs replay names such as (date and time first player (race) vs second player (race) result for first player):
'2015-03-25 01-07-20 examplename (T) vs secondname (Z) L.SC2Replay'

If you have set yourself (your account name) as favored ('5 Replay parser' > 'Favored player list:' names are separated with commas), you are always the first player. Otherwise it selects the first player based on replay file.

Stephanus

4 Posts

May 09 2015 19:04 GMT

#4058

Hello,

I have played several games and still nothing comes out. I have checked my battle net page, it seems correct. I am on mac. It keeps saying there is no info on me, and that data quality is 50%. Here is my log :

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20:56:55 Post-trigger: Start
20:57:55 Post-trigger: Reading web profiles
20:57:59 Webgrabber: Player true
20:58:02 Webgrabber: Opponent true
20:58:02 Post-trigger: Done reading web profiles
20:58:02 Unranked detection starts (detection is disabled for lost matches)
20:58:02 Unranked detection ends
20:58:02 Bonus calc (Stephanus diam-): max end: 385, max fetch: 385
20:58:02 Bonus calc (%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B9 diam-): max end: 385, max fetch: 385
20:58:02 Calculating adjusted points for the players (either Alg. A or B needs to succceed for certain player)
20:58:02 DATA Alg. A : failed, No pre-game data (RAM scanner possibly off) or pre-game data bad:
20:58:02 DATA Alg.B: failed, No Bonus Win: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4318628/1/Stephanus/
20:58:02 ERROR AFTERCHECK Both alg. A and B failed: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4318628/1/Stephanus/
20:58:02 ERROR PRECHECK PLAYER: 0 Ladderpoints - No Data: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1137667/2/Алексей/ 20:58:02 ERROR LASTCHECK : Both players invalid
20:58:02 Gamecheck: false
20:58:02 POST-Trigger done
20:58:02 Data quality needs to be 100% to be able to calculate MMR
20:58:02 Data quality for calculating Player's MMR: 50%
20:58:02 Data quality for calculating Opponent's MMR: 50%
20:58:05 OK Uploader: game uploaded 20:58:05 Ladder Game Done!
20:58:05 --------------------------

korona

1098 Posts

May 09 2015 20:21 GMT

#4059

On May 10 2015 04:04 Stephanus wrote:
Hello,

I have played several games and still nothing comes out. I have checked my battle net page, it seems correct. I am on mac. It keeps saying there is no info on me, and that data quality is 50%. Here is my log :

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First I presume you have the latest DB file installed (v 22.1). With the older 22.0 data was locked and no good results were possible.

On Mac the biggest problem is that game launch is not detected (the technique used is based on Windows registry). This means the tool never gets pre-game data for any match on Mac. The primary method of calculating points change for each match requires both pre-game and post-game data.

But it is possible to solve the change points without pre-game data too. But the chances are slimmer. There are 2 things that must happen. And if they happen then there are the usual requirements for data quality. (During WoL it was easier when point change for lost matches was always known, now you never know it based on web profiles for lost matches unless you have pre-game data too).

The two things are 1) opponent must win, 2) opponent must have unused bonus pool. If these two things happen and the data fulfills numerous other requirements, then it is possible to calculate your MMR from post-game data. This actually works the other way too. To calculate opponent's MMR from only post-game data requires that you win and you have remaining bonus pool (and then the numerous other requirements).

Check this link and links inside it for some simplified info on other requirements (Remember those are very old offsets / thresholds in those examples, but basic principle is still valid, Also remember that there is no pre-game data nor memory reader for Mac): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22798150

ApBuLLet

United States604 Posts

May 09 2015 21:07 GMT

#4060

So I'm using v 22.1 of the DB file, running MMR Stats 10.3 in SC2Gears 14.3.3 and I haven't gotten a "good" game yet in 52 games (it says Needs a game with better data 0/52). I have it correctly linked to my battle.net profile which is here http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/625953/1/ApBuLLet/ and it seems that everything is correct in my profile. Any idea why I haven't been able to get any games with good data yet?

I initially started playing again about a month ago after a long break and I was stuck in gold league due to MMR decay (I was masters all throughout WoL). I figured this was why the data was bad before, plus the season lock came shortly after I started playing again. However, I have played a good number of games in the new season and have gotten back up to diamond which seems to be where I belong so I don't understand why the games still have bad data. Is there something else I need to do to get good data out of my games?

Edit: I also have memory scanning enabled, just FYI

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