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Whirligig
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom77 Posts
May 11 2012 05:11 GMT
#281
If you're not playing master league opponents then the tool won't show any data points. If you uncheck known tiers checkbox then you will see your guesstimated mmr. If the tool is collecting data properly then the Total Games indicator will be increasing after each game.
Malhavoc
Profile Joined October 2010
Italy308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 09:03:59
May 11 2012 08:41 GMT
#282
Being a poor silver player I don't usually play against master opponents ..but unchecking the known tier option I can now see my guessed mmr. Does this guessing gets better and better the longer it collects data? My data uploading would in the long run help understand which is my league's exact tier?

BTW, where does the plugin save its data? Since it can't recalculate from replays, I surely want to a backup sometimes, to avoid losing anything!

And one final things: in case more data uploaded could be beneficial for calculating various leagues' tiers, wouldn't be a good idea to get in touch with the SC2Gears' author, to incorporate this plugin with the original application, in order to make it spreading out more?
IMScientist
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy125 Posts
May 11 2012 11:27 GMT
#283
Well it should

This is from FAQ
Data collection
We collect all valid Game data on a web-sever.
Date in the link here and on the website
This guy plays like he was sent down from heavens
Powster
Profile Joined April 2010
United States650 Posts
May 11 2012 14:26 GMT
#284
When the red "Pre-trigger is collecting..." message shows up the tool freezes and I cant click it or exit it or anything forcing me to restart sc2gears. So pretty much all I am able to do without freezing the thing is set up the config...... Thats what the log file says after multiple uses..

+ Show Spoiler +
MMR-Calculator 1.6
FATALERROR loading settings
Versionchecker: Version up to date
ERROR Timeclinet failed
OK Gameobserver: Registry is fine!
MMR-Calculator 1.6
Versionchecker: Version up to date
ERROR Timeclinet failed
OK Gameobserver: Registry is fine!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
MMR-Calculator 1.6
Versionchecker: Version up to date
ERROR Timeclinet failed
OK Gameobserver: Registry is fine!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
Pretrigger END!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
Pretrigger END!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
Pretrigger END!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
MMR-Calculator 1.6
Versionchecker: Version up to date
OK Timeclient successfull
OK Gameobserver: Registry is fine!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 15:01:36
May 11 2012 14:51 GMT
#285
On May 11 2012 09:25 KingofGods wrote:
I've played a couple games (or maybe just one) and nothing has showed up on the MMR chart yet. Does that mean there is no data for my league/division ? I am only gold on the Korean ladder.

On May 11 2012 14:11 Whirligig wrote:
If you're not playing master league opponents then the tool won't show any data points. If you uncheck known tiers checkbox then you will see your guesstimated mmr. If the tool is collecting data properly then the Total Games indicator will be increasing after each game.

On May 11 2012 17:41 Malhavoc wrote:
Being a poor silver player I don't usually play against master opponents ..but unchecking the known tier option I can now see my guessed mmr. Does this guessing gets better and better the longer it collects data? My data uploading would in the long run help understand which is my league's exact tier?

BTW, where does the plugin save its data? Since it can't recalculate from replays, I surely want to a backup sometimes, to avoid losing anything!

And one final things: in case more data uploaded could be beneficial for calculating various leagues' tiers, wouldn't be a good idea to get in touch with the SC2Gears' author, to incorporate this plugin with the original application, in order to make it spreading out more?

frist, i want to have it bug free. I have an idea how i can guess your tier, only on your own data, pretty good. Working on it...

On May 11 2012 23:26 Powster wrote:
When the red "Pre-trigger is collecting..." message shows up the tool freezes and I cant click it or exit it or anything forcing me to restart sc2gears. So pretty much all I am able to do without freezing the thing is set up the config...... Thats what the log file says after multiple uses..

+ Show Spoiler +
MMR-Calculator 1.6
FATALERROR loading settings
Versionchecker: Version up to date
ERROR Timeclinet failed
OK Gameobserver: Registry is fine!
MMR-Calculator 1.6
Versionchecker: Version up to date
ERROR Timeclinet failed
OK Gameobserver: Registry is fine!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
MMR-Calculator 1.6
Versionchecker: Version up to date
ERROR Timeclinet failed
OK Gameobserver: Registry is fine!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
Pretrigger END!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
Pretrigger END!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
Pretrigger END!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
MMR-Calculator 1.6
Versionchecker: Version up to date
OK Timeclient successfull
OK Gameobserver: Registry is fine!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start

just wait few sec ...
the pretrigger should only run if you are in a game. If he runs outsite of the game sc2 is broken because of crash.
in this case start sc2 and he will fix the registry and the tool will no longer run the pretrigger outsite of a game,
Save gaming: kill esport
fraGGer
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom51 Posts
May 11 2012 15:37 GMT
#286
Great tool working well here in EU diamond thanks. Having to use the guesstimates though obviously as I'm mid/low diamond so rarely play anyone in masters t.t

One minor enhancement to consider would be adding a moving average line to the chart. Since I think we know blizz uses a moving average to calculate league promotions/demotions it might worth throwing a 20 game/50 game moving average on there just to give you an idea of where you might sit on this basis?
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
May 11 2012 15:44 GMT
#287
On May 11 2012 23:51 skeldark wrote:

Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 23:26 Powster wrote:
When the red "Pre-trigger is collecting..." message shows up the tool freezes and I cant click it or exit it or anything forcing me to restart sc2gears. So pretty much all I am able to do without freezing the thing is set up the config...... Thats what the log file says after multiple uses..

+ Show Spoiler +
MMR-Calculator 1.6
FATALERROR loading settings
Versionchecker: Version up to date
ERROR Timeclinet failed
OK Gameobserver: Registry is fine!
MMR-Calculator 1.6
Versionchecker: Version up to date
ERROR Timeclinet failed
OK Gameobserver: Registry is fine!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
MMR-Calculator 1.6
Versionchecker: Version up to date
ERROR Timeclinet failed
OK Gameobserver: Registry is fine!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
Pretrigger END!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
Pretrigger END!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
Pretrigger END!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
MMR-Calculator 1.6
Versionchecker: Version up to date
OK Timeclient successfull
OK Gameobserver: Registry is fine!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start

just wait few sec ...
the pretrigger should only run if you are in a game. If he runs outsite of the game sc2 is broken because of crash.
in this case start sc2 and he will fix the registry and the tool will no longer run the pretrigger outsite of a game,

I have the same problem. After a few games with sc2gears running in the background, I go to plugins->mmr calculator. Then, I see the message pre-trigger is loading, and sc2gears completely freezes. After closing and opening both sc2 and sc2gears (in any order), sc2gears still crashes the moment I open up the mmr calculator. Help!
=Þ
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
May 11 2012 17:49 GMT
#288
On May 12 2012 00:37 fraGGer wrote:
Great tool working well here in EU diamond thanks. Having to use the guesstimates though obviously as I'm mid/low diamond so rarely play anyone in masters t.t

One minor enhancement to consider would be adding a moving average line to the chart. Since I think we know blizz uses a moving average to calculate league promotions/demotions it might worth throwing a 20 game/50 game moving average on there just to give you an idea of where you might sit on this basis?

thx. yeah its on the todo list

On May 12 2012 00:44 Heh_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 23:51 skeldark wrote:

On May 11 2012 23:26 Powster wrote:
When the red "Pre-trigger is collecting..." message shows up the tool freezes and I cant click it or exit it or anything forcing me to restart sc2gears. So pretty much all I am able to do without freezing the thing is set up the config...... Thats what the log file says after multiple uses..

+ Show Spoiler +
MMR-Calculator 1.6
FATALERROR loading settings
Versionchecker: Version up to date
ERROR Timeclinet failed
OK Gameobserver: Registry is fine!
MMR-Calculator 1.6
Versionchecker: Version up to date
ERROR Timeclinet failed
OK Gameobserver: Registry is fine!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
MMR-Calculator 1.6
Versionchecker: Version up to date
ERROR Timeclinet failed
OK Gameobserver: Registry is fine!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
Pretrigger END!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
Pretrigger END!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
Pretrigger END!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start
MMR-Calculator 1.6
Versionchecker: Version up to date
OK Timeclient successfull
OK Gameobserver: Registry is fine!
--------------------------------------------------
Pretrigger Start

just wait few sec ...
the pretrigger should only run if you are in a game. If he runs outsite of the game sc2 is broken because of crash.
in this case start sc2 and he will fix the registry and the tool will no longer run the pretrigger outsite of a game,

I have the same problem. After a few games with sc2gears running in the background, I go to plugins->mmr calculator. Then, I see the message pre-trigger is loading, and sc2gears completely freezes. After closing and opening both sc2 and sc2gears (in any order), sc2gears still crashes the moment I open up the mmr calculator. Help!

do you have autosave enabled?
when you open sc2gears first and click the tool does the pretrigger run?
when not does he run when you enter a game?
does the posttirgger run directly after the game?
Save gaming: kill esport
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
May 12 2012 03:33 GMT
#289
I have to keep enabling the plugin every time I reopen Sc2gears and then all my total games goes back to 0. Still get nothing even if I uncheck known tiers.
Not_That
Profile Joined April 2011
287 Posts
May 12 2012 03:58 GMT
#290
On May 08 2012 13:17 Not_That wrote:
...
Having said all this, I am aware of one case where F gives an apparent MMR drop after a win. I suspect this is a special case that may have something to do with players that have a high sigma (uncertainty) value and/or low number of games played. However these are the exception not the rule.


A correction for those who take interest: I found out there was an error with a number that was inserted into excel incorrectly. This is good news because it means we have yet to see a case where the F function predicts MMR which contradicts results from matches.
TechSc2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands554 Posts
May 12 2012 21:05 GMT
#291
So some of my results instead of adding points to my mmr, it substracted it from them? does this influence future calculations or does this only affect 1 outcome, and it start the calculations completely again with a new game?
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Not_That
Profile Joined April 2011
287 Posts
May 12 2012 21:31 GMT
#292
On May 13 2012 06:05 TechSc2 wrote:
So some of my results instead of adding points to my mmr, it substracted it from them? does this influence future calculations or does this only affect 1 outcome, and it start the calculations completely again with a new game?


I don't quite understand what you're asking, but each game results are calculated independently from others.
Sfrakz
Profile Joined June 2011
France4 Posts
May 13 2012 02:21 GMT
#293
Why i've nothing on the square? He see my total games : (6)

But nothing on the board
IMScientist
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy125 Posts
May 13 2012 08:08 GMT
#294
Well are you playing vs masters if not unselect known tiers only
This guy plays like he was sent down from heavens
Malhavoc
Profile Joined October 2010
Italy308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 18:33:52
May 13 2012 14:24 GMT
#295
I think I've bumped into some sort of bug.. today I played a couple of games, then went back to SC2Gears and found the plugin disabled (could have been crashed?). After re-enabling it, I noticed it lost my profile configuration, and all the games data as well!

So, to ask again: since we can't recover data from replays, is there an easy way to backup the data and avoid losing it like that?

EDIT: after a PC restart, I find the settings still there (my profile is correctly entered) but all the game data lost again! Seems like it hasn't saved this time..
Sfrakz
Profile Joined June 2011
France4 Posts
May 13 2012 14:50 GMT
#296
On May 13 2012 17:08 Lucyan wrote:
Well are you playing vs masters if not unselect known tiers only


I don't know but when i unselect Know Thiers Only, it works but the plugin only show me 3 games, but i've played more than 3...
Canti_the_Angel
Profile Joined June 2011
United States55 Posts
May 13 2012 21:31 GMT
#297
On May 13 2012 23:50 Sfrakz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 17:08 Lucyan wrote:
Well are you playing vs masters if not unselect known tiers only


I don't know but when i unselect Know Thiers Only, it works but the plugin only show me 3 games, but i've played more than 3...


From what Ive gathered, it only collects on games where opponents have a bonus pool and SC2 Gears has to be running during the match.
Every problem can be solved with DTs...
SchfiftyFive
Profile Joined September 2010
United States131 Posts
May 14 2012 08:27 GMT
#298
Doesn't work, and causes sc2gears to not work, just says version check and freezes the program, update soon or corrupt program?
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MogA
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland43 Posts
May 14 2012 19:53 GMT
#299
Alright so i tested this aswell. But after six games ( 3 against master opponents others agains diamonds ) Thers no MMR i see + theres no graph. Anyone an idea what i could change ?
FilthyRake
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States473 Posts
May 14 2012 20:01 GMT
#300
just wanted to say thanks for an awesome tool. I'm not masters yet, but I'm using it as much as possible to get you tons of data so that you can eventually do all the leagues
Co-owner of PSISTORM Gaming
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