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korona
1098 Posts
On April 26 2013 09:22 ktimekiller wrote: The usual big update button isnt showing up for me Did you restart sc2gears? It checks for new version only when you start SC2gears (or change MMR-tool settings). | ||
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ktimekiller
United States690 Posts
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Tpad
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On April 26 2013 09:24 korona wrote: Did you restart sc2gears? It checks for new version only when you start SC2gears (or change MMR-tool settings). there we go! | ||
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Monsoon
United States14 Posts
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dw.Justify
Germany34 Posts
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alcaras
United States67 Posts
Now it says "Result not accurate" and "Pre-result: Need more data" Is this normal after an update? First time updating this tool. Or did something go horribly wrong? e: Thanks! Looks like it's all normal, given the type of the update. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
On April 26 2013 21:47 dw.Justify wrote: just an info for the developers of the tool. i guess the GM line is now 50-70 points too low compared to the begining of april when the offsets were corrected. I found myself playing rank 150 gm or ca rank 50-100 Masters on sc2 ranks these people were always +- 50 points on the gm line. Now they are all like 50 -70 points above it. Guess that could have somthing to do with the gernal increase of the elo points over time. this could also be the case for all the other promotion lines. No. The line is still ok. It is not dynamic promotion line. Also 50 points is ~3 wins against even MMR opponent == very close. Also there likely is server based differences. I used same lines for all servers except SEA which due to low population differs from the others. Two weeks ago the same line matched both EU & US nicely. Remember if there is 1 spot available in GM it is 'reserved' to player having highest active non-gm MMR. If there is 50 spots, its for 50 highest and so on. At GM range we do not have fresh data for 'all' players. Would have to somehow track as many highest non-gm:s as there are spots to have accurate promotion border. MMR for the top-GM has likely risen in last two weeks. So that line likely is too low. But still it gives information on the whole MMR range of the ladder. For future release I will likely change the hover messages for both GM and top-GM lines in the future telling that they are not promotion lines + possibly change them graphically. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
On April 26 2013 23:22 alcaras wrote: Just updated to 9.2. Now it says "Result not accurate" and "Pre-result: Need more data" Is this normal after an update? First time updating this tool. Or did something go horribly wrong? Everything is likely working as it should. This is a special case as the tool was updated to match the changed cap rules. If you were in capping zone, you likely 'lost' lots of 'good games'. Those games actually were capped --> you cannot calculate MMR based on them. For example one of the recent posters of this thread had 17 'good games' before the update. After the update he has 3 as most of his opponents were in capping zone (low MMR range of each league). Play more and eventually you will get an opponent from whose data it is possible to calculate your MMR. Edit: Based on data from April 23th you had 1 'good game' back then. That game was capped and the new version of the tool correctly detects it. Edit 2: And as you likely have memory reader off, please read question: "What is a pre-requisite to be able get a 'good game' (a game from which user's MMR can be calculated). What is the difference if memory reader is on vs off?" from the original post. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
On April 26 2013 13:38 Monsoon wrote: I can't find a way in sc2gears to update to 9.2. Also the MMR Tool website seems to be down so I can't manually get the update. Any advice? Here is a mirror: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?5yqyhwtvlwcr7np During last week some people from Americas have reported similar behavior in this thread. The website is up and accessible. But those people for some reason do not reach it. | ||
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dw.Justify
Germany34 Posts
Ye when the season has alrdy started there are no spots in gm left and somtimes there gets 1-2 spots free than these spots will go to a 1800 + MMR player for sure. But the place of the GM line should match ca. the place where you get the promotion when a new season starts. (what will be in 2 weeks) and there will be 200 spots. So the line should be ca where rank 200 is found. Atm thats not the case it is ca. where rank 350 is . (when thre line was release it was the case it was ca rank 150-200) Sure there is GM and Master players so it is not that easy to determine whos rank 200. But a decent approximation could be to say that ca 150 players from GM will stay there and the top 50 from Master will join. Players that are rank 150 GM or 50 Master with now Bonus pool have atm ca 50 Points more than the GM line (in europe). I have some good experience with the line fighting last weeks always ca in the region  Opponent 205 and 198 were both ca. Rank 120 Gm and they have MMR of ca 1650 but they are prob only 20 - 50 Ponts above the line not 120 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/cvkBgJq.jpg) | ||
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Monsoon
United States14 Posts
On April 26 2013 23:53 korona wrote: Here is a mirror: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?5yqyhwtvlwcr7np During last week some people from Americas have reported similar behavior in this thread. The website is up and accessible. But those people for some reason do not reach it. Thanks you! That worked. | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On April 27 2013 00:09 dw.Justify wrote: Ye when the season has alrdy started there are no spots in gm left and somtimes there gets 1-2 spots free than these spots will go to a 1800 + MMR player for sure. But the place of the GM line should match ca. the place where you get the promotion when a new season starts. (what will be in 2 weeks) and there will be 200 spots. So the line should be ca where rank 200 is found. Atm thats not the case it is ca. where rank 350 is . (when thre line was release it was the case it was ca rank 150-200) Sure there is GM and Master players so it is not that easy to determine whos rank 200. But a decent approximation could be to say that ca 150 players from GM will stay there and the top 50 from Master will join. Players that are rank 150 GM or 50 Master with now Bonus pool have atm ca 50 Points more than the GM line (in europe). I have some good experience with the line fighting last weeks always ca in the region Opponent 205 and 198 were both ca. Rank 120 Gm and they have MMR of ca 1650 but they are prob only 20 - 50 Ponts above the line not 120 Many GM use the tool and most of the the gm and high master accounts are tracked. In the past over 50% of GM at the end of the season were not in the top 200 any more. Its easy to track a line for the top 200 just by taking the top 200 of the database. The problem is that this line is changing all the time. When a new season starts a ton of players play hardcore to get a spot, also there are many idle accounts on high MMR who dont play (= not in the db) any games to stay high and get a spot next season. The whole GM system is a pain in the ... and so is to calculate the line. IF you want to do it good you have to update it all the time About the webserver and USA connection: I have no idea what it is. This provider use some strange dns system | ||
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Zuricko
2 Posts
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korona
1098 Posts
On April 27 2013 01:17 Zuricko wrote: So, for most games I play it is filling in a "player assumption" instead of a win/loss. I have the memory scanner activated and all that. Only 2 of the 29 games I have on this so far are filled in as losses, while there are also only 2 out of 29 wins. Everything else is player assumption. The trend is similar for my opponents as well. Does anyone know why this is happening? I just updated to 4.2, all the game data I have so far was on 4.1 though. Any thoughts? Cap detection was fixed to correspond the current cap mechanics. You likely are consistently in cap area where the MMR often cannot be calculated from the opponent's data. | ||
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Tpad
4 Posts
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Empedocles
United States47 Posts
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korona
1098 Posts
On April 27 2013 05:21 Empedocles wrote: I recently hit diamond but in my chart i am still subdiamond at around 750 any idea why this is so? Maybe i just dont have enough games in there yet to get an accurate read? No problems here. Functioning correctly. Only your third game is a 'good game'. All other games are estimates based on that game. Estimates assume you played the games against similar MMR opponent. But in reality you have likely got more MMR points from some of the matches. On April 27 2013 04:34 Tpad wrote: Can anyone help me... I really want to use this, but it says the site doesn't exist. Is anyone else having this problem??? Few messages before your post: On April 26 2013 23:53 korona wrote: Here is a mirror: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?5yqyhwtvlwcr7np During last week some people from Americas have reported similar behavior in this thread. The website is up and accessible. But those people for some reason do not reach it. | ||
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roflwar
United States14 Posts
Is everything listed above all on the same server? Ex. If I were unable to download the MMR plugin from the OP, but did so through a mirror, would I be aware of updates to the MMR plugin if they were made available? | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12238 Posts
On April 27 2013 01:39 korona wrote: Cap detection was fixed to correspond the current cap mechanics. You likely are consistently in cap area where the MMR often cannot be calculated from the opponent's data. What's the new minimum you're operating with now, and what's the Master minimum? | ||
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