Match Making Rating Tool - Page 126

korona

1098 Posts

January 25 2013 02:22 GMT

#2501

On January 25 2013 06:24 alQahira wrote:
So, I've been using the plugin happily for a while. I was recently promoted to diamond and have mostly been playing even diamond opponents. Then I played a game against a low masters player where it said I was even. I lost, and then it somehow dropped my mmr all the way down into mid platinum after that one game. Since then I have won 2 games and lost 1, and it still thinks I am in mid-platinum even though all three were diamond opponents. In one game I fell from 1582 to 1459. Any thoughts?

EDIT: After a closer look it was a game against a normal diamond opponent that I actually won that sent my MMR plunging. The game against the low master's player was the one right after that.

LOG FILE:
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:51 OK Encoding: OK
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:51 OK Loading DB
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:52 OK DB up to date!
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:52 OK Settings loaded!
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:53 OK Timeclient: Systemtime offset: 5 sec
7

:53 OK Gamedata: 43 Games loaded.
7

:53 Loading Archive...
7

:53 OK Gamedata: 0 Games loaded.
7

:53 OK Triggers ready!
7

:53 OK Gameobserver: ready!
7

:54 OK: Program is up to date
7

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10:5:31 Webgrabber: Player true
10:5:31 No Profile, skip
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10:47:17 No Profile, skip
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10:49:28 No Profile, skip
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11:17:19 --------------------------
11:17:19 Game Start detected
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11:18:0 No Profile, skip
11:18:0 Webgrabber: Opponent false
11:18:0 PRE-Trigger done
12:33:11 FATALERROR Profile in Active-Account dont fit with Replay-Profile!
12:33:11 Active id :http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2646159/1/alQahira/ 1-2646159
12:33:11 Replay Id :1-3798165 1-3798165
12:33:11 Player-data-Qualitiy: 0% 
12:33:11 Opponent-data-Qualitiy: 0% 
12:33:12 OK Uploader: game uploaded
12:33:12 Ladder Game Done!
12:33:12 --------------------------
12:34:21 --------------------------
12:34:21 Game Start detected
12:35:3 Webgrabber: Player true
12:35:3 No Profile, skip
12:35:3 Webgrabber: Opponent false
12:35:3 PRE-Trigger done
12:39:53 --------------------------
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12:40:35 Webgrabber: Player true
12:40:35 No Profile, skip
12:40:35 Webgrabber: Opponent false
12:40:35 PRE-Trigger done
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12:44:7 No Profile, skip
12:44:7 Webgrabber: Opponent false
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13:2:39 No Profile, skip
13:2:39 Webgrabber: Opponent false
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13:7:29 --------------------------
13:7:29 Game Start detected
13:8:11 Webgrabber: Player true
13:8:11 No Profile, skip
13:8:11 Webgrabber: Opponent false
13:8:11 PRE-Trigger done
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13:22:43 Webgrabber: Opponent true
13:22:43 A 12 B 12

13:22:43
13:22:43 DATA Alg. A : failed, No Ramscanner
13:22:43 A -9999 B -7

13:22:43
13:22:43 Gamecheck: true
13:22:43 PREPLAYER 1:
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Reading: true
Adjusted: true
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bonus: 34
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Reading: false
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points: -9999
bonus: -9999
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adjusted_points: -9999

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Reading: true
Adjusted: true
Dmmr: false
id: 1-2646159
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server: US
league: diamond
division_name: templar lima
Main race: p
Game race: p
gamedate: 1/24/2013
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totalbonuspool: 160
Wins: 34
Looses: -9999
points: 238
bonus: 22
change_points: 12
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13:22:43 POSTPLAYER 2:
Data: true
Reading: true
Adjusted: true
Dmmr: false
id: 1-3002475
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3002475/1/Bahku/
server: US
league: platinum
division_name: marine foxtrot
Main race: t
Game race: t
gamedate: 1/24/2013
mapname: Akilon Flats
totalbonuspool: 160
Wins: 53
Looses: -9999
points: 336
bonus: 1
change_points: -7
adjusted_points: 177

13:22:43 Dataset:
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VALID: true
Player1_won true
--- GAMEEND ---

13:22:43 POST-Trigger done
13:22:43 Player-data-Qualitiy: 100% 
13:22:43 Opponent-data-Qualitiy: 75% 
13:22:44 OK Uploader: game uploaded
13:22:44 Ladder Game Done!
13:22:44 --------------------------
13:22:51 --------------------------
13:22:51 Game Start detected
13:23:33 Webgrabber: Player true
13:23:33 No Profile, skip
13:23:33 Webgrabber: Opponent false
13:23:33 PRE-Trigger done
13:25:33 --------------------------
13:25:33 Game Start detected
13:26:14 Webgrabber: Player true
13:26:14 No Profile, skip
13:26:14 Webgrabber: Opponent false
13:26:14 PRE-Trigger done
13:35:4 Webgrabber: Player true
13:35:6 Webgrabber: Opponent true
13:35:6 A -10 B -10

13:35:6
13:35:6 DATA Alg. A : failed, No Ramscanner
13:35:6 A -9999 B 3

13:35:6
13:35:6 Gamecheck: true
13:35:6 PREPLAYER 1:
Data: true
Reading: true
Adjusted: true
Dmmr: false
id: 1-2646159
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2646159/1/alQahira/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: templar lima
Main race: p
Game race: unkown
gamedate: 1/24/2013
mapname: Akilon Flats
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Wins: 34
Looses: -9999
points: 238
bonus: 22
change_points: 24
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13:35:6 PREPLAYER 2:
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Reading: false
Adjusted: false
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id:
playerlink:
server:
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division_name: ERROR
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points: -9999
bonus: -9999
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13:35:6 POSTPLAYER 1:
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Reading: true
Adjusted: true
Dmmr: false
id: 1-2646159
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2646159/1/alQahira/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: templar lima
Main race: p
Game race: p
gamedate: 1/24/2013
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totalbonuspool: 160
Wins: 34
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points: 228
bonus: 22
change_points: -10
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13:35:6 POSTPLAYER 2:
Data: true
Reading: true
Adjusted: true
Dmmr: false
id: 1-2437750
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2437750/1/SilverLininG/
server: US
league: master
division_name: samiku phi
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Game race: p
gamedate: 1/24/2013
mapname: Cloud Kingdom LE
totalbonuspool: 276
Wins: 26
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points: 91
bonus: 78
change_points: 3
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13:35:6 Dataset:
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TIME: 1359059667597
VALID: true
Player1_won false
--- GAMEEND ---

13:35:6 POST-Trigger done
13:35:6 Player-data-Qualitiy: 100% 
13:35:6 Opponent-data-Qualitiy: 100% 
13:35:7 OK Uploader: game uploaded
13:35:7 Ladder Game Done!
13:35:7 --------------------------
13:35:15 --------------------------
13:35:15 Game Start detected
13:35:56 Webgrabber: Player true
13:35:56 No Profile, skip
13:35:56 Webgrabber: Opponent false
13:35:56 PRE-Trigger done
13:37:26 --------------------------
13:37:26 Game Start detected
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13:38:8 No Profile, skip
13:38:8 Webgrabber: Opponent false
13:38:8 PRE-Trigger done
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13:50:34 Webgrabber: Opponent true
13:50:34 A -12 B -12

13:50:34
13:50:34 DATA Alg. A : failed, No Ramscanner
13:50:34 A -9999 B 11

13:50:34
13:50:34 Gamecheck: true
13:50:34 PREPLAYER 1:
Data: true
Reading: true
Adjusted: true
Dmmr: false
id: 1-2646159
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2646159/1/alQahira/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: templar lima
Main race: p
Game race: unkown
gamedate: 1/24/2013
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totalbonuspool: 160
Wins: 34
Looses: -9999
points: 228
bonus: 22
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13:50:34 PREPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id:
playerlink:
server:
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Game race: unkown
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totalbonuspool: 160
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -9999
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: -9999

13:50:34 POSTPLAYER 1:
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Reading: true
Adjusted: true
Dmmr: false
id: 1-2646159
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2646159/1/alQahira/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: templar lima
Main race: p
Game race: p
gamedate: 1/24/2013
mapname: Ohana LE
totalbonuspool: 160
Wins: 34
Looses: -9999
points: 216
bonus: 22
change_points: -12
adjusted_points: 78

13:50:34 POSTPLAYER 2:
Data: true
Reading: true
Adjusted: true
Dmmr: false
id: 1-1018554
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1018554/1/JoeMama/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: char tango
Main race: z
Game race: z
gamedate: 1/24/2013
mapname: Ohana LE
totalbonuspool: 160
Wins: 53
Looses: -9999
points: 267
bonus: 11
change_points: 11
adjusted_points: 118

13:50:34 Dataset:
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1359060596169
VALID: true
Player1_won false
--- GAMEEND ---

13:50:34 POST-Trigger done
13:50:34 Player-data-Qualitiy: 75% 
13:50:34 Opponent-data-Qualitiy: 75% 
13:50:35 OK Uploader: game uploaded
13:50:35 Ladder Game Done!
13:50:35 --------------------------
13:50:38 --------------------------
13:50:38 Game Start detected
13:51:20 Webgrabber: Player true
13:51:20 No Profile, skip
13:51:20 Webgrabber: Opponent false
13:51:20 PRE-Trigger done
13:56:0 --------------------------
13:56:0 Game Start detected
13:56:42 Webgrabber: Player true
13:56:42 No Profile, skip
13:56:42 Webgrabber: Opponent false
13:56:42 PRE-Trigger done
13:57:24 Webgrabber: Player true
13:57:26 Webgrabber: Opponent true
13:57:26 ERROR PRECHECK Player: WEBSERVER no update happend!
13:57:26 ERROR PRECHECK PLAYER: 0 Ladderpoints - No Data
13:57:26 ERROR LASTCHECK : Both players invalid
13:57:26 Gamecheck: false
13:57:26 PREPLAYER 1:
Data: true
Reading: true
Adjusted: true
Dmmr: false
id: 1-2646159
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2646159/1/alQahira/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: templar lima
Main race: p
Game race: unkown
gamedate: 1/24/2013
mapname: Daybreak LE
totalbonuspool: 160
Wins: 35
Looses: -9999
points: 242
bonus: 9
change_points: 26
adjusted_points: 91

13:57:26 PREPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id:
playerlink:
server:
league: ERROR
division_name: ERROR
Main race: unkown
Game race: unkown
gamedate: ERROR
mapname: ERROR
totalbonuspool: 160
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -9999
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: -9999

13:57:26 POSTPLAYER 1:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 1-2646159
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2646159/1/alQahira/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: templar lima
Main race: p
Game race: p
gamedate: 1/24/2013
mapname: Daybreak LE
totalbonuspool: 160
Wins: 35
Looses: -9999
points: 242
bonus: 9
change_points: 26
adjusted_points: 91

13:57:26 POSTPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 1-1378581
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1378581/1/CasaNova/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: grizzly iota
Main race: p
Game race: r
gamedate: 1/24/2013
mapname: Daybreak LE
totalbonuspool: 160
Wins: 0
Looses: -9999
points: 0
bonus: 160
change_points: 0
adjusted_points: 0

13:57:26 Dataset:
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1359060975704
VALID: false
Player1_won true
--- GAMEEND ---

13:57:26 POST-Trigger done
13:57:26 Player-data-Qualitiy: 50% 
13:57:26 Opponent-data-Qualitiy: 50% 
13:57:27 OK Uploader: game uploaded
13:57:27 Ladder Game Done!
13:57:27 --------------------------
14:0:2 --------------------------
14:0:2 Game Start detected
14:0:44 Webgrabber: Player true
14:0:44 No Profile, skip
14:0:44 Webgrabber: Opponent false
14:0:44 PRE-Trigger done
14:13:47 Webgrabber: Player true
14:13:49 Webgrabber: Opponent true
14:13:49 DATA Alg.B: failed, No Bonus Win
14:13:49 A 12 B -9999

14:13:49
14:13:49 DATA Alg. A : failed, No Ramscanner
14:13:49 A -9999 B -13

14:13:49
14:13:49 Gamecheck: true
14:13:49 PREPLAYER 1:
Data: true
Reading: true
Adjusted: true
Dmmr: false
id: 1-2646159
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2646159/1/alQahira/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: templar lima
Main race: p
Game race: unkown
gamedate: 1/24/2013
mapname: Daybreak LE
totalbonuspool: 160
Wins: 35
Looses: -9999
points: 242
bonus: 9
change_points: 26
adjusted_points: 91

14:13:49 PREPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id:
playerlink:
server:
league: ERROR
division_name: ERROR
Main race: unkown
Game race: unkown
gamedate: ERROR
mapname: ERROR
totalbonuspool: 160
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -9999
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: -9999

14:13:49 POSTPLAYER 1:
Data: true
Reading: true
Adjusted: true
Dmmr: false
id: 1-2646159
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2646159/1/alQahira/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: templar lima
Main race: p
Game race: p
gamedate: 1/24/2013
mapname: Akilon Flats
totalbonuspool: 160
Wins: 36
Looses: -9999
points: 263
bonus: 0
change_points: 12
adjusted_points: 103

14:13:49 POSTPLAYER 2:
Data: true
Reading: true
Adjusted: true
Dmmr: false
id: 1-2081348
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2081348/1/llllllllllll/
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: scout mars
Main race: p
Game race: p
gamedate: 1/24/2013
mapname: Akilon Flats
totalbonuspool: 160
Wins: 41
Looses: -9999
points: 261
bonus: 0
change_points: -13
adjusted_points: 101

14:13:49 Dataset:
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TIME: 1359061991281
VALID: true
Player1_won true
--- GAMEEND ---

14:13:49 POST-Trigger done
14:13:49 Player-data-Qualitiy: 75% 
14:13:49 Opponent-data-Qualitiy: 75% 
14:13:50 OK Uploader: game uploaded
14:13:50 Ladder Game Done!
14:13:50 --------------------------

Interesting. I almost answered that check my previous post couple messages back (do it anyways)...

... but I checked your profile. The games were played in a row, both were considered good & were against players from other leagues (you diam, other opponent platinum, other master). Error margin for the plat game was 34 points and for master game 65 points. This explains the MMR drop somewhat.

As mentioned earlier there may be inaccuracies regarding league offsets (diam-master is best known, plat-diam offset may need fine-tuning). Your pair of games is likely usable when I next time fine-tune the offsets. Thank you for posting! Just keep playing and the next 'good game' will adjust the MMR if necessary. Do not mark either of those games bad. If and when adjustments to the offsets are made, the calculations will be automatically adjusted.

I also checked kooinish's profile (if I guessed it right - There was one similar but shorter account name on EU server). He was in diam and had a 'good game' against a platinum player, then 10 estimate games & then a 'good game' against a master opponent. The 10 estimate MMRs were based on latter 'good game' and thus there is a MMR drop in the graph after the first 'good game'. This may also indicate adjustment need for the offsets. I'll keep his account also in mind when I next time check the offsets.

alQahira

United States511 Posts

January 25 2013 05:08 GMT

#2502

So I went ahead and marked the game that sent my MMR plunging as bad before you responded, and then what happened is my entire graph shifted down. So now at game 28 my MMR plunges from 1500 to 1395 when in reality it should have kept increasing (since I got promoted to diamond around game 30 I think.) Is there any way to unmark a game as bad?

I'm tempted to just wipe the data and start over...

korona

1098 Posts

January 25 2013 05:35 GMT

#2503

On January 25 2013 14:08 alQahira wrote:
So I went ahead and marked the game that sent my MMR plunging as bad before you responded, and then what happened is my entire graph shifted down. So now at game 28 my MMR plunges from 1500 to 1395 when in reality it should have kept increasing (since I got promoted to diamond around game 30 I think.) Is there any way to unmark a game as bad?

I'm tempted to just wipe the data and start over...

PM:d instructions.

WOPR

Canada145 Posts

January 27 2013 20:14 GMT

#2504

edit* i just read the help and about and it answered my question.. sry sry sry...sry

Mavvie

Canada923 Posts

January 27 2013 22:08 GMT

#2505

I'm pretty sure that the plat-diamond offset is off by a significant margin. When I play a game vs a master, my MMR jumps by 100+, and then the next game vs a diamond it will drop by 100 or so too. And this has happened 3-4 times

TooGreedy

Netherlands16 Posts

January 28 2013 13:31 GMT

#2506

Thx for making this great program, the masters promotion line is perfect, as soon as i got my moving average one point above it, I promoted.

GregSC2

19 Posts

January 28 2013 20:41 GMT

#2507

Is there any way you could add a checkbox in the Output section that says to automatically update the selected webpage after each game? If it's too much trouble I could try to take a look into the code and post what modifications would be needed (or probably just edit locally in my version).

Thanks!

korona

1098 Posts

January 28 2013 21:38 GMT

#2508

On January 29 2013 05:41 GregSC2 wrote:
Is there any way you could add a checkbox in the Output section that says to automatically update the selected webpage after each game? If it's too much trouble I could try to take a look into the code and post what modifications would be needed (or probably just edit locally in my version).

Thanks!

It is unlikely that new features will be done before HotS conversion. Only fixes if some problem appears. In waiting mode at the moment to see what kind of changes HotS requires.

Edit: Feature request has been noted.

korona

1098 Posts

January 29 2013 18:58 GMT

#2509

As you know some of the league offsets may be somewhat inaccurate (not necessarily much). As for lower leagues there has not been too much suitable data for calculating them I have postponed publishing update regarding the offsets. I will update them at earliest next weekend or following week (original post will be updated then). Some of the general data & some posts here suggest that platinum-master offset is larger than the current sum of plat-diam & diam-master offsets. Thus there may be jumps in MMR graph if you play against players from all of following leagues: platinum, diamond & master. Do not mark them bad. Calculations will be adjusted automatically when new offsets are published.

If there are active tool users who are close to master promotion line (over or under, can be from either league) and regularly play against both diamond & master opponents & get lots of 'good games' regarding data quality it would be nice if you PM:d me your web profile URL. These profiles can be helpful when after adjusting the offsets I visually check from the graphs if the changes had expected results.

Arassuil

Poland3 Posts

February 02 2013 00:10 GMT

#2510

Hello, sorry for my possible not good english ;p

I have 3 questions:
1. what is the format and link of webpage output, and how can i add my mmr to my php variable - let's say put all the export data in: $_GET['var'] ?
2. does any1 ever report to you that he was banned for using memory scanner?
3. does any1 have any excell sheet with calculations of mmr if i input there data about how much points i gain/lose and same for my opponent? or can some1 explain me how to make such sheet, meaning: what data i need to make one? i know math and excell functions etc

thank you

edit: 4th question: what does memory reader exactly do? because you have the opponent's name in replay, and i assume, that you need only name and his points before and after the game, am i right? i'm a bit afraid of using it ;p

MMR-Stats

26 Posts

February 02 2013 15:13 GMT

#2511

On February 02 2013 09:10 Arassuil wrote:
Hello, sorry for my possible not good english ;p

I have 3 questions:
1. what is the format and link of webpage output, and how can i add my mmr to my php variable - let's say put all the export data in: $_GET['var'] ?
2. does any1 ever report to you that he was banned for using memory scanner?
3. does any1 have any excell sheet with calculations of mmr if i input there data about how much points i gain/lose and same for my opponent? or can some1 explain me how to make such sheet, meaning: what data i need to make one? i know math and excell functions etc

thank you

edit: 4th question: what does memory reader exactly do? because you have the opponent's name in replay, and i assume, that you need only name and his points before and after the game, am i right? i'm a bit afraid of using it ;p

I can answer the last three questions.

2. No one has reported being banned for using this tool, ever.

3. I'm sure someone has made an excel sheet with such a function, but I don't have it in my possession. If you want to do it yourself, I recommend you check out this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=332391 by Not_That, which will explain how the calculations work.

4. The memory reader checkers a certain value in the system memory when the game is starting in order to get the battle.net account URL to get the bonus pool. It makes everything much more accurate.

-Cereal

(Korona will correct me if I'm wrong about anything)

korona

1098 Posts

February 02 2013 16:16 GMT

#2512

On February 03 2013 00:13 MMR-Stats wrote:

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I can answer the last three questions.

1. The format is the same as in file output. Just output the data into a file and check. Skeldark the original creator of the tool (the current version is still 100% his) wrote some examples earlier: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334561&currentpage=70#1386

On February 03 2013 00:13 MMR-Stats wrote:
2. No one has reported being banned for using this tool, ever.

3. I'm sure someone has made an excel sheet with such a function, but I don't have it in my possession. If you want to do it yourself, I recommend you check out this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=332391 by Not_That, which will explain how the calculations work.

One of Not_That's posts also contains a link to excel sheet that has mmr calculations. Just be warned that some of the calculations may be partially outdated + remember there are no skill tiers anymore: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=332391&currentpage=14#279

On February 03 2013 00:13 MMR-Stats wrote:
4. The memory reader checkers a certain value in the system memory when the game is starting in order to get the battle.net account URL to get the bonus pool. It makes everything much more accurate.

It only reads your and your opponent's SC2 character name and character ID (there is no other way to get these before the end of the game). With these it builds the URLs to the web profiles. To be able to calculate the MMR's we need data before the game and to know what's the point change without bonuspoints. If memory reader is not on, the pregame data for the opponent can be deduced only in limited cases such as: 1) you win --> opponent loses points, thus no bonuspoints involved, 2) opponent wins and has bonus pool available --> half of the points he gained were from the bonus pool, 3) possible other cases. Your MMR is calculated from your opponent's data and opponent's MMR from your data.

The choice is yours whether or whether not to activate the memory reader as it is optional. But there is no feasible way to detect it & the data it reads gives you no advantage over the opponent (data regarding the current game is not read).

Arassuil

Poland3 Posts

February 02 2013 17:27 GMT

#2513

thank you very much, that helped a lot...
btw im trying to create web interface with graphic charts [like in your plugin], if i manage to do it, i will post links here

any help is welcome

iMech

United States28 Posts

February 02 2013 23:01 GMT

#2514

Is there an ETA for a HOTS version?

Grimmyman123

Canada939 Posts

February 03 2013 00:42 GMT

#2515

For HOTS it will be after release if at all, as HOTS is in Beta.

further, the original developer of the MMR tool has since quit. So, a MMR tool for HOTS might never get made.

Arassuil

Poland3 Posts

February 03 2013 01:28 GMT

#2516

there is an expression in polish language 'nie kracz' that means: 'don't say something because it may became truth' :D
so... don't say that there will be no hots mmr addon :D

Pippah

Denmark353 Posts

February 04 2013 12:56 GMT

#2517

This program is awesome. really helped me keeping track of my progress. Just got promoted to masters and the graph looked like this after 250'ish games.

was like the 3. or 4. game after I passed into the "masters" MMR that I got promoted

Barabas

Netherlands9 Posts

February 09 2013 11:49 GMT

#2518

I suddenly went to gold according to the MMR rating.. but I am not promoted at all.. I did won 7 in a row and are now number 2 silver. I have the feeling the MMR stats is acting weird on me. I have no clue why.. anybody else having this issue? Auto correct does not have any influence.

InfCereal

Canada1759 Posts

February 09 2013 12:33 GMT

#2519

On February 09 2013 20:49 Barabas wrote:
I suddenly went to gold according to the MMR rating.. but I am not promoted at all.. I did won 7 in a row and are now number 2 silver. I have the feeling the MMR stats is acting weird on me. I have no clue why.. anybody else having this issue? Auto correct does not have any influence.

You have to be stable within the league. It won't promote you as soon as you hit it.

Barabas

Netherlands9 Posts

February 09 2013 14:56 GMT

#2520

aha.. yes that would make sense.. but it also puts gold league opponents in the silver league.. I just never had seen this kind of behaviour before, on the other hand I did not have winning streaks like this before.

Keep winning is also stable no?

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