EPTOn April 30 2012 13:43 ceaRshaf wrote:
Because he will feel smart for telling us "I told you so".
Because he will feel smart for telling us "I told you so".
Well obv i don't really hope that, but that thread was incredibly annoying
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Zrana
United Kingdom698 Posts
Well obv i don't really hope that, but that thread was incredibly annoying | ||
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Ksquared
United States1748 Posts
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captainshards
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On April 30 2012 13:43 ceaRshaf wrote: Because he will feel smart for telling us "I told you so". Sadly, that thread has been misunderstood and misread for so long, and its implications and points twisted enough, that unless Flash utterly dominates from the very instant SC2 is being publicly played by BW teams, the people who hate that thread will have a field day. There literally will be posts like "I DONT SEE NO ELEPHANT?!?" etc etc after Flash loses his very first publicly played game to a player who didnt play BW. I feel that the elephant thread is pretty true, but it should never have been written because it never will sway one perspective to the other side. Everyone who played BW for years understands what hes trying to say, and everyone who only played SC2 just doesnt want to hear that kind of thing. All in all if the article had to be posted it should have been worded differently. Because now it and all its points have been taken and twisted to the point where theres no end result that will convince either "side" they were wrong. I think its best just to let the BW players have some time to learn the game and figure out how it works fundamentally, that way they can apply their own approach in time. There is a great chance they will be behind for awhile at first. Thats normal. But their team house infrastructure and training methods are going to produce some great players eventually. I hope that people will give them some time to catch up before claiming there is (was) no elephant. | ||
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Defiler1a2a3a4567
United States24 Posts
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Juvant
United States723 Posts
On April 30 2012 12:24 Zrana wrote: But what about THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM guys??? man i hope he does mediocre at best just to prove that thread wrong I hate seeing stuff like this. If he does mediocre, that would basically confirm the worries of SC2 having a significantly lower skill cap than BW. | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
There are certainly going to be BW players who will suffer with the transition. With BW, there is a very high entrance level in terms of APM. If you don't have a high APM, you can't play the game. For this reason, many players with great mechanics but less game management skills can excel in BW through sheer superior control. And these players may not perform as well in SC2. But the very best BW players will almost certainly be beastly after the transition. In fact, I can easily imagine someone like Stork, who's getting older and falling in micro/apm, perform perhaps better with less strain on mechanics. | ||
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Brutaxilos
United States2634 Posts
On April 30 2012 13:13 ZeaL. wrote: Mostly because Jangbi slumped for like 2 years. Like really badly slumped. He has had a resurgence within the last year though but I'm sure he lost many fans during his dry spell. Haha, well he's my favorite BW player and has been for the past three years. It just makes me excited whenever his name pops up. Is he not on Stork's level? Haven't followed him as much recently. Sorry for getting off topic. | ||
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VPCursed
1044 Posts
On April 30 2012 14:14 Juvant wrote: I hate seeing stuff like this. If he does mediocre, that would basically confirm the worries of SC2 having a significantly lower skill cap than BW. There is no skill ceiling in strategy games. The smarter player, those more apt to adapt will always prevail. | ||
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MrStabby
United States24 Posts
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VPCursed
1044 Posts
On April 30 2012 15:40 MrStabby wrote: WOWO BLIZZ IS FUCKING DUMB FAGGOTS NO CHAT CHANNELS B.NET IS FOR BITCHES WOWOWOWOWOWO GJ BILZZ what? you do realize there is chat channels in sc2 right? | ||
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
On April 30 2012 15:40 MrStabby wrote: WOWO BLIZZ IS FUCKING DUMB FAGGOTS NO CHAT CHANNELS B.NET IS FOR BITCHES WOWOWOWOWOWO GJ BILZZ in b4 ban User was warned for this post | ||
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DawN883
Sweden558 Posts
On April 30 2012 14:14 Juvant wrote: If he does mediocre, that would basically confirm the worries of SC2 having a significantly lower skill cap than BW. And if he wins it means that SC2 is a very easy game right? | ||
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zomgE
498 Posts
On April 30 2012 14:14 Juvant wrote: I hate seeing stuff like this. If he does mediocre, that would basically confirm the worries of SC2 having a significantly lower skill cap than BW. it's good to have the excuses rdy before we even see him play huh | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On April 30 2012 16:59 DawN883 wrote: And if he wins it means that SC2 is very easy right? What is very easy ? | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On April 30 2012 12:24 Zrana wrote: But what about THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM guys??? man i hope he does mediocre at best just to prove that thread wrong If he does mediocre, the elephant thread will be filled with "Flash lost 2 games in the last PL finals, he was in a decline and not very good at the time he switched." :D | ||
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Bear4188
United States1797 Posts
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On April 30 2012 17:16 MrCon wrote: If he does mediocre, the elephant thread will be filled with "Flash lost 2 games in the last PL finals, he was in a decline and not very good at the time he switched." :D If you were a pro in base ball and you were forced to go pro in golf and the transition to golf caused you some major hiccups in your game because you have relearn everything from the ground . But you are still hitting the right scores making pars when you need to although still mediocre compared to your glorious day in base ball . Meh........ | ||
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Vasoline73
United States8165 Posts
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Thermia
United States866 Posts
On April 30 2012 17:20 Sawamura wrote: If you were a pro in base ball and you were forced to go pro in golf and the transition to golf caused you some major hiccups in your game because you have relearn everything from the ground . But you are still hitting the right scores making pars when you need to although still mediocre compared to your glorious day in base ball . Meh........ Hopefully he won't be like Michael Jordan playing baseball. | ||
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-TesteR-
Canada1165 Posts
On April 30 2012 14:08 captainshards wrote: Sadly, that thread has been misunderstood and misread for so long, and its implications and points twisted enough, that unless Flash utterly dominates from the very instant SC2 is being publicly played by BW teams, the people who hate that thread will have a field day. There literally will be posts like "I DONT SEE NO ELEPHANT?!?" etc etc after Flash loses his very first publicly played game to a player who didnt play BW. I feel that the elephant thread is pretty true, but it should never have been written because it never will sway one perspective to the other side. Everyone who played BW for years understands what hes trying to say, and everyone who only played SC2 just doesnt want to hear that kind of thing. All in all if the article had to be posted it should have been worded differently. Because now it and all its points have been taken and twisted to the point where theres no end result that will convince either "side" they were wrong. I think its best just to let the BW players have some time to learn the game and figure out how it works fundamentally, that way they can apply their own approach in time. There is a great chance they will be behind for awhile at first. Thats normal. But their team house infrastructure and training methods are going to produce some great players eventually. I hope that people will give them some time to catch up before claiming there is (was) no elephant. The bolded is the most important part, and which is why i think the elephant thread is crap. It literally has nothing to do with the fact that they played brood war, it has to do with how they train for sc2. | ||
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