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Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 14:25:00
April 13 2012 14:21 GMT
#261
On April 13 2012 20:24 M7Jagger wrote:
Why the hell does naniwa decides to participate in Dreamhack instead of MLG?


You from sweden and you dont know?

Well maybe becuase Dreamhack is one of the biggest tournament in the world while this MLG arena are just a small expensive 8man invitational. Its also in Sweden where it will have a huge crowd of swedish sc2 fans

Its really a no brainer

On April 13 2012 20:42 M7Jagger wrote:
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On April 13 2012 20:32 TheSir wrote:
On April 13 2012 20:28 Tobberoth wrote:
On April 13 2012 20:24 M7Jagger wrote:
Why the hell does naniwa decides to participate in Dreamhack instead of MLG?

Because naniwa is Swedish and he likes to play on hometurf? In all probability.


and just maybe cause Dreamhack is a bigger event which he can win?


No way Dreamhack is bigger. Yes there are more players, but the competition is much bigger in MLG. Hardly no koreans in Dreamhack.


Beside MKP and DRG who are bigger or better then Polt,Naniwa,Stephano and Hero? And that just the players we know more will come

Like I sayd before MLG done a huge mistake placing this arena at the same date as Dreamhack.
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Riquiz
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands402 Posts
April 13 2012 14:31 GMT
#262
Grubby :D Awesome that he's going to cast !
Caster man does casting on yt/RiquizCasts
TheShadower
Profile Joined November 2011
United States94 Posts
April 13 2012 14:49 GMT
#263
On April 13 2012 23:21 Benjamin99 wrote:
Beside MKP and DRG who are bigger or better then Polt,Naniwa,Stephano and Hero? And that just the players we know more will come


Is this even a serious question? There is a player that will be at Arena 1, but I forgot who his name is. #1 on the SC2 earnings list, past DH winner, HSC4 winner, IEM 4 WC winner, and 2 time GSL winner... Those are some pretty big results.

Will DH be great as usual? Absolutely, and we will know more about the lineup soon. However, don't pretend like Arena 1 only has MKP and DRG to hang its hat on.
CluEleSs_UK
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom583 Posts
April 13 2012 14:52 GMT
#264
Wow, this is gonna be sick! I like the small, intimate format. Some sick players, GREAT casters (fuck yeah grubby). Only $10? bargain for sure. Onwards and upwards MLG!
"If it turns out he is leaving the ESL to focus on cooking crystal meth I'll agree that it is somewhat disgraceful, but I'll hold off judgement until then."
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
April 13 2012 15:01 GMT
#265
Tastosis + Grubby, actual pro players as analysts are what sealed the deal for me.

Bought my season pass. Keep up the amazing work MLG !!!!
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
April 13 2012 15:31 GMT
#266
On April 13 2012 20:05 Rannasha wrote:
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On April 13 2012 19:21 Hiea wrote:
Keep in mind, Dreamhack also hosted 8man tournaments, and people didn¨t rage about those?


Dreamhacks 8man tournaments had free 1080p.


People here keep saying "8man tournaments are pointless", thats what I was refering to, not that its PPV.
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
April 13 2012 15:45 GMT
#267
OMGGGGGGGGG Grubby casting o.o

sadly no free stream though
ELqQQT_T
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
April 13 2012 15:48 GMT
#268
On April 13 2012 07:44 Derez wrote:
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On April 13 2012 07:04 ZAiNs wrote:
On April 13 2012 07:01 krisss wrote:
On April 13 2012 05:38 MLG_Adam wrote:
So I'm guessing the Race Specific analyst addition is approved by the community? The idea is that after every Main Stream match the analysts will discuss the replay with the main casters. TvP will be QXC and Axlav, ZvT will be QXC and Sheth, etc etc.


Please dont. This will be so boring. IMHO you are just trying to hang on "unsuitable" casters because you like them personally. I mean why watching games with casters that dont comment on strategies, then watching it AGAIN with focus on strategies? Thats a waste of time (maybe thats even whatch you are aiming for, with only 8 players).

I mean you hav what i takes to watch the game LIVE with good strategy analysis. You got Grubby and qxc. They alone are entertaining and good in analysis. Sheth is good too (i only saw him once casting for NASL, therefore i cant say too much).

You put those "analysists" with 1 caster and let them cast the games. I really dont get it.


They aren't going to go through the whole game again. I assume it'll be similar to what we had at the last arena but instead of getting Tastosis' thoughts on the game we'll get QXC/Sheth/Axslav's, with the replay being used to highlight certain points in the game.

He has a point tho. The last two MLG events have suffered quite a bit from caster setups where neither caster has anything analytical to say. I'm not hating on them here, but any combo made up out of Wheat/JP/Simpson/Tasteless lacks depth. I'm pretty sure we all noticed that last MLG. On the other hand, if you put someone like Wheat or Tasteless next to a pro and have them simply talk with them, asking them questions, the drill, you get much better commentary. Grubby is a great addition already, but if I was MLG I'd consider using the other 3 pro's aswell for actual commentary, especially for mirrors of specific races.

I don't dislike the analysis post game, but if possible I'd prefer it after a full series when a new player is setting up. I understand that there's a need for short breaks between series and sometimes also between games, and something is better than nothing.




Tasteless knows what he's talking about he's not a gold noobie usually when he casts though it's with Artosis which is going to happen here and he provides the analyticl side of the commentary during the game/after
Also there isn't a need for more casters, and I don't like this Analysts thing it's "meh" and only 8 players is kinda disappointing.
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evaunit01
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States512 Posts
April 13 2012 16:10 GMT
#269
Just purchased the season HD pass, love the $15 price for us gold members. Analysis section is a nice idea, I personally love it as it shows a newcomer or mainstream media the depth of skill and strategy involved in the game. Keep up the good work MLG!
Gamertag: William T. Riker - My life for Aiur!
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
April 13 2012 19:33 GMT
#270
Seeing a movie at your local theater: 7-10$

Length of movie: 2-3 hours

does the theater/movie creater care about your opinion: No

One weekend of MLG coverage: 10$

Amount of coverage: over 24 hours (worth of watching time that one person can consume at one time)

Does the company care about your opinion: Yes

Do they answer your questions on a forum really fast: Yes

Does the owner of the company directly implement suggestions and talk to the consumers: Yes


What are we complaining about again?

Thanks once again MLG for giving us awesome games and at a reasonable price.

Sincerely, guy who has a job, money, and a brain.
anonymous is the most famous author that anyone can be
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
April 13 2012 20:50 GMT
#271
I love what JP McDaniel does for the community, he's an awesome guy, he's just... not a great caster

I like that they listed the Observer, since it really does make a big difference.

I don't understand how you can fill an entire weekend with 8 players, but they're all good players, so that's cool.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 21:18:54
April 13 2012 21:15 GMT
#272
On April 14 2012 04:33 YourGoodFriend wrote:
Seeing a movie at your local theater: 7-10$

Length of movie: 2-3 hours

does the theater/movie creater care about your opinion: No

One weekend of MLG coverage: 10$

Amount of coverage: over 24 hours (worth of watching time that one person can consume at one time)

Does the company care about your opinion: Yes

Do they answer your questions on a forum really fast: Yes

Does the owner of the company directly implement suggestions and talk to the consumers: Yes


What are we complaining about again?

Thanks once again MLG for giving us awesome games and at a reasonable price.

Sincerely, guy who has a job, money, and a brain.


One weekend of Dreamhack coverage: Free

Amount of coverage: over 24 hours (worth of watching time that one person can consume at one time)

Does the company care about your opinion: Yes

Do they answer your questions on a forum really fast: Yes.

Does the event have a huge line-up of top players and crowds: Yes.



How good your business is is relative to the competition.
zomgE
Profile Joined January 2012
498 Posts
April 13 2012 21:17 GMT
#273
On April 14 2012 06:15 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 04:33 YourGoodFriend wrote:
Seeing a movie at your local theater: 7-10$

Length of movie: 2-3 hours

does the theater/movie creater care about your opinion: No

One weekend of MLG coverage: 10$

Amount of coverage: over 24 hours (worth of watching time that one person can consume at one time)

Does the company care about your opinion: Yes

Do they answer your questions on a forum really fast: Yes

Does the owner of the company directly implement suggestions and talk to the consumers: Yes


What are we complaining about again?

Thanks once again MLG for giving us awesome games and at a reasonable price.

Sincerely, guy who has a job, money, and a brain.


One weekend of Dreamhack coverage: Free

Amount of coverage: over 24 hours (worth of watching time that one person can consume at one time)

Does the company care about your opinion: Yes

Do they answer your questions on a forum really fast: Yes.

Does the event have a huge line-up of top players and crowds: Yes.


+ tons of other free sc2 content _all the time_
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 21:51:27
April 13 2012 21:47 GMT
#274
On April 13 2012 23:49 TheShadower wrote:
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On April 13 2012 23:21 Benjamin99 wrote:
Beside MKP and DRG who are bigger or better then Polt,Naniwa,Stephano and Hero? And that just the players we know more will come


Is this even a serious question? There is a player that will be at Arena 1, but I forgot who his name is. #1 on the SC2 earnings list, past DH winner, HSC4 winner, IEM 4 WC winner, and 2 time GSL winner... Those are some pretty big results.

Will DH be great as usual? Absolutely, and we will know more about the lineup soon. However, don't pretend like Arena 1 only has MKP and DRG to hang its hat on.


Spring Arena 1 has skilled players, but it made two big mistakes:

* Schedule conflict with Dreamhack. They know this, and is trying to fix it for future events.

* Lack of big names from the foreigner's scene - other than HuK, that is, but he doesn't have the fanbase that Stephano, IdrA, etc. have. Foreigner tournaments thrive on foreigner vs. Korean rivalry. GSL does the Korean vs. Korean rivalry better, and is free besides.

It was, however, a good move to package it with the second arena, which is a lot bigger. I'm personally not willing to shell out the $ for Spring Arena 1, but Spring Arena 2 is tempting, and there's no way to buy that by itself.

A stand-alone PPV eight player tournament is not easy to sell. I think to get me to pay for that, the organizer has to invite a very appealing line-up, and toss in features that make the tournament stand out - ie a special maps mini-tournament, monetized FFAs, players from regions we don't see in other tournaments, etc.
SkimGuy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada709 Posts
April 13 2012 22:02 GMT
#275
People will vote with their eyeballs. Some want to see the better players play, some want to see their fan favourites. There is no right or wrong answer.
Ekval
Profile Joined June 2011
United States19 Posts
April 13 2012 22:08 GMT
#276
People will vote with their eyeballs. Some want to see the better players play, some want to see their fan favourites. There is no right or wrong answer.


This...

I can't understand why every time MLG announces anything, people have to lose their ever loving minds. I personally prefer some tournaments over others, but I don't feel the need to rip every other tournament.

MLG puts out a good product, so does Dreamhack. Sucks that they are at the same time, but I believe that was explained earlier in the thread.
daders123
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden51 Posts
April 13 2012 22:10 GMT
#277
Dreamhack and MLG the same weekend is great. More games, more fun.
Instrument
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway7 Posts
April 13 2012 22:18 GMT
#278
Timezones isnt close tho so probably one can view most of both events if one is hardcore enough!
great casters! It kinda looks like GSL Arena tho :/
LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 23:00:50
April 13 2012 22:37 GMT
#279
that weekend is going to be sick O_O

also, just noticed the MLG Spring arena countdown. Happy to see it advertised on TL :D

edit: disappointed with the small player pool

edit2: quit trying to get people to give you guys things for free. YES, we know there's free content out there. BUT this is what we want to watch. I honestly may watch more MLG arena than Dreamhack that weekend.
Roachu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden692 Posts
April 13 2012 22:51 GMT
#280
I think the pricing is much more reasonable this time around and 15 bucks for everything? I'm in.
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