I'm sad that Lucky wasn't invited. Surely 2nd place at IPL3 was enough to warrant an invite. I mean maybe his play at IPL3 was a little cheesy (and he ruined the MMA vs Stephano final) but recently his play has been really strong. He's probably one of the top 5 Zergs in Korea atm.

Was a reason given why Lucky isn't in IPL4?

aRyuujin

United States5049 Posts

April 05 2012 02:22 GMT

#324

I can't see bracket 1, but the others look epic

Ksquared

United States1748 Posts

April 05 2012 02:27 GMT

#325

Soo stacked. No forginers will be making it out of that lol. Its like having a second GSL. I kind of like it

GreyKnight

United States4720 Posts

April 05 2012 02:35 GMT

#326

On April 05 2012 11:20 Zzoram wrote:

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Was a reason given why Lucky isn't in IPL4?

Because FXO didn't want to fly him over?

Dubzex

United States6994 Posts

April 05 2012 05:49 GMT

#327

So sad to see a team liquid team kill in round two of group 1. At least one TL player will get to round 3.

floatingbee

Singapore61 Posts

April 05 2012 05:52 GMT

#328

Irony...

Ghoststrikes

Canada1356 Posts

April 05 2012 05:58 GMT

#329

On April 05 2012 14:52 floatingbee wrote:
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Irony...

hahaha nice!

the most stacked open bracket EVER

ROOTdrewbie

Canada1392 Posts

April 05 2012 06:05 GMT

#330

HARD BRACKETS

Sumahi

Guam5609 Posts

April 05 2012 06:06 GMT

#331

Startale players in the open bracket fighting! I'm cheering for a Bomber win this time around, but a July zerg nerd slaughter fest would be incredible!

asongdotnet

United States1060 Posts

April 05 2012 07:26 GMT

#332

by my count 41 koreans? the funny thing is that a good chunk of them can't even drink or gamble hah...

Zealot Orgy

United Kingdom537 Posts

April 05 2012 08:24 GMT

#333

41 professional koreans

40 professional foreigners

Can we call this a Korean tournament organized by Foreigenrs?

Xeris

Iran17695 Posts

April 05 2012 08:27 GMT

#334

On April 05 2012 07:07 Bumblebee wrote:

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On April 05 2012 05:25 Xeris wrote:

On April 05 2012 02:07 Bumblebee wrote:

On April 05 2012 00:26 Cascade wrote:
Wow, kindof stacked, yes! :o

On April 04 2012 21:55 Bumblebee wrote:
I don't really have a refined opinion on team kills in such brackets. It's sort of just tough luck, but I wonder if there can't be done something to prevent it at least for a while or not "that many". If you look over the bracket, we - Team Liquid - kill eachother very early all over the bracket. It's just not worthwhile business for us to send so many players to such events if they're going to eliminate eachother that early. I'm not saying we can prevent teamkills all the way until the bracket finals - or we almost can, but I don't expect it. I'm just simply thinking if there isn't a fair way to draft so that we won't have 2-3 teamkills in the third round?

What are your opinions out there? Do you think it'd be fair to put what team people are on into such an equation?

It would be nice in a way, if you put it last, after you spread out all your seeds and whatever ranking the tourney is using. Then you could imagine that the random placing that is left got the extra constraint of trying to not make team kills.

Problem however, is that it would then be beneficial to be on a team with many other good players. For example, if Hero goes to a pretty small tourney (as favourite to win) but that doesn't have much previous seeds or ranking, most players would be very happy to be placed far away from hero, and would thus get an (imo unfair) advantage by being on liquid. And also the opposite, if another team with a lot of bad players went to the tourney, they would run a higher risk of being matched with a strong opponent. The bad players would be better of being teamless.

Imo, we don't need to make the strong teams even stronger, so I do not think this should be implemented. It sucks for liquid, I feel you, but I don't think it would work in the long run to take team into account when making brackets.

Ah, this is a very good point.

Also... Liquid has 9 players. You can't really expect them to avoid each other in a 128 man bracket, its a consequence of having so many players on your team. I'm sure if the IPL staff specifically made their bracket to put Liquid players farthest away from each other, you could avoid a teamkill until Round 3, but that wouldn't be fair to anyone else.

Ah, I definitely agree that of course we will never see a perfect scenario. I'm just curious as to what people think about tournaments at least having it in mind. But I like the point of the guy who said that we don't want to make the strongest teams even stronger..

Well, I know at NASL I specifically have that in mind... but its easier in our format to do it that way. In a bracket system like this, there seems to be only 2 ways to do it: an as-objective as possible seeding system, OR random generation.

Gosi

Sweden9072 Posts

April 05 2012 08:54 GMT

#335

On April 05 2012 06:03 CryMore wrote:

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Fuck you guys that's me =_____=

Hahaha. Have fun at least

Aemilia

344 Posts

April 05 2012 09:00 GMT

#336

I really love how you can make pool play from the lower bracket. That's something about MLG's current format which sucks.

On April 05 2012 17:24 Zealot Orgy wrote:
41 professional koreans

40 professional foreigners

Can we call this a Korean tournament organized by Foreigenrs?

I'd rather just call it awesome.

FdFavor

Netherlands2 Posts

April 05 2012 11:28 GMT

#337

top 32 Korean Yes?

hyperknight

294 Posts

April 05 2012 11:37 GMT

#338

Dear FnaticRC.Moon,

Please do not disappoint this time.

Sincerely,

Your fanboi.