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I'll definitely consider getting the ticket for the arenas this time. The price is a lot more reasonable than last time, though I'm not 100% convinced that I'll be able to watch it live, so I won't be rushing to buy it.
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On March 30 2012 05:52 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
Note that Gold Memberships are no longer available online, but they are available at GameStop and Toys “R” Us locations in the US. If you don’t have a Gold Membership, the Spring Season Pass is your best option.
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This kind of sucks because now you have to live in the US to be able to purchase a gold pass which completely cuts out all the non-US fans who want to purchase the pass. Plus it's a whole lot less convenient to go out and buy a pass at Gamestop instead of online.
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On March 30 2012 16:54 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 16:46 nemahsys wrote:On March 30 2012 16:28 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 30 2012 16:19 nemahsys wrote:On March 30 2012 16:12 bayside wrote:
TBH, Im not going to pay for an event that isnt largely Korean, when KeSPA desides to go to sc2 I would gladly pay 15$ for a season, same as I do GSL, but its not really worth it to see the 8 EU and 8 NA members just autolose to koreans. god this is so true. are there people out there that actually enjoy watching machine vs. incontrol? because Machine vs IncontroL totally happened at the winter arena right? I used those two as an example of avg NA "pro gamers" that dont stand a chance against the actual top tier sc2 players (read: koreans). any random 2 NA players would have worked just as well. not like a guy from the NA qualifier beat Nestea or anything...
exception that proves the rule anyone?
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i think they nailed the pricing on this one 10$ is perfect for arena
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Well the discount for Gold Members are really nice, as a gold Member i get for 60$ a year ( 2 seasons + the gold members benefit ), but it would have been so much nicer if MLG actually mailed his Gold members with the information instead of letting them look it up.
Eitherway that's a communication thing, which could be better.
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On March 30 2012 16:04 SACtheXchng wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 05:52 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
We listened to your feedback, and you now have a variety of viewing options.
LOL, let me quote myself from February 16: Show nested quote +On February 16 2012 05:45 SACtheXchng wrote:On February 16 2012 03:22 Klondikebar wrote:
I'm REALLY not pleased with how they're treating their gold members. Like Nony, I love watching games live...which is exactly why I bought my gold membership. MLG isn't just charging me $20 for Arena, they're charging me for Arena after I've already paid for it. That's no bueno.
And I'm so tired of this pseudo charity mentality we're expected to have about esports. "These companies need to make money to grow Starcraft so you're a bad person if you don't buy their stuff" is utter nonsense. You want a real business truth? If you can't price your product competitively then you probably shouldn't be in the market at all. I couldn't have said it better. I'm not a gold member, but if I were, I'd be up in arms. You have to give it to MLG though in one point. I'm certain they know that $20 is LOLtastically overpriced, and they're willingly letting this event's viership numbers going to shit, so they can come out for the next event all sensible-like. "We listened to community feedback, and we admit that for the last event we charged a bit more than the average ESPORTS fan is willing to pay. That's why we are willing to take the fall for our beloved community (that we're not trying to a**r**e), and even if business is going to be tough now and this will put us on the verge of bankrupcy, we have made the decision to lower our prices for the next event to $19.99 and for gold members to 18.99. If you don't pay that, you're hurting ESPORTS!!!"
Except by most accounts the viewership numbers were higher than expected so MLG managed to pull a profit on the venture.
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On March 30 2012 18:50 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 16:04 SACtheXchng wrote:On March 30 2012 05:52 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
We listened to your feedback, and you now have a variety of viewing options.
LOL, let me quote myself from February 16: On February 16 2012 05:45 SACtheXchng wrote:On February 16 2012 03:22 Klondikebar wrote:
I'm REALLY not pleased with how they're treating their gold members. Like Nony, I love watching games live...which is exactly why I bought my gold membership. MLG isn't just charging me $20 for Arena, they're charging me for Arena after I've already paid for it. That's no bueno.
And I'm so tired of this pseudo charity mentality we're expected to have about esports. "These companies need to make money to grow Starcraft so you're a bad person if you don't buy their stuff" is utter nonsense. You want a real business truth? If you can't price your product competitively then you probably shouldn't be in the market at all. I couldn't have said it better. I'm not a gold member, but if I were, I'd be up in arms. You have to give it to MLG though in one point. I'm certain they know that $20 is LOLtastically overpriced, and they're willingly letting this event's viership numbers going to shit, so they can come out for the next event all sensible-like. "We listened to community feedback, and we admit that for the last event we charged a bit more than the average ESPORTS fan is willing to pay. That's why we are willing to take the fall for our beloved community (that we're not trying to a**r**e), and even if business is going to be tough now and this will put us on the verge of bankrupcy, we have made the decision to lower our prices for the next event to $19.99 and for gold members to 18.99. If you don't pay that, you're hurting ESPORTS!!!" Except by most accounts the viewership numbers were higher than expected so MLG managed to pull a profit on the venture.
Thew viewership numbers may have been higher than what they expected because of the ways to get behind the pay wall. It just makes sense for them to reduce the price. Though don't hold your breathe for them to come out and say, you guys were right about the prices! Wouldn't be surprised either if they don't use twitch for any of this.
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On March 30 2012 18:50 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 16:04 SACtheXchng wrote:On March 30 2012 05:52 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
We listened to your feedback, and you now have a variety of viewing options.
LOL, let me quote myself from February 16: On February 16 2012 05:45 SACtheXchng wrote:On February 16 2012 03:22 Klondikebar wrote:
I'm REALLY not pleased with how they're treating their gold members. Like Nony, I love watching games live...which is exactly why I bought my gold membership. MLG isn't just charging me $20 for Arena, they're charging me for Arena after I've already paid for it. That's no bueno.
And I'm so tired of this pseudo charity mentality we're expected to have about esports. "These companies need to make money to grow Starcraft so you're a bad person if you don't buy their stuff" is utter nonsense. You want a real business truth? If you can't price your product competitively then you probably shouldn't be in the market at all. I couldn't have said it better. I'm not a gold member, but if I were, I'd be up in arms. You have to give it to MLG though in one point. I'm certain they know that $20 is LOLtastically overpriced, and they're willingly letting this event's viership numbers going to shit, so they can come out for the next event all sensible-like. "We listened to community feedback, and we admit that for the last event we charged a bit more than the average ESPORTS fan is willing to pay. That's why we are willing to take the fall for our beloved community (that we're not trying to a**r**e), and even if business is going to be tough now and this will put us on the verge of bankrupcy, we have made the decision to lower our prices for the next event to $19.99 and for gold members to 18.99. If you don't pay that, you're hurting ESPORTS!!!" Except by most accounts the viewership numbers were higher than expected so MLG managed to pull a profit on the venture.
Do you honestly think they would be said "we didn't sell enough" if they didn't? That is shooting your own company.
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On March 30 2012 17:23 jsemmens wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 05:52 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
Note that Gold Memberships are no longer available online, but they are available at GameStop and Toys “R” Us locations in the US. If you don’t have a Gold Membership, the Spring Season Pass is your best option.
] This kind of sucks because now you have to live in the US to be able to purchase a gold pass which completely cuts out all the non-US fans who want to purchase the pass. Plus it's a whole lot less convenient to go out and buy a pass at Gamestop instead of online.
Yeah I don't understand why they don't sell them online  I was actually thinking of buying one right now before I saw that. Seems like a weird bussiness decision, but perhaps they don't want too many people buying gold passes since they make more money from selling individual tickets and they know people who would buy gold passes will probably buy the individual ticket once the event is coming up.
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On March 30 2012 19:26 fidelity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 17:23 jsemmens wrote:On March 30 2012 05:52 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
Note that Gold Memberships are no longer available online, but they are available at GameStop and Toys “R” Us locations in the US. If you don’t have a Gold Membership, the Spring Season Pass is your best option.
] This kind of sucks because now you have to live in the US to be able to purchase a gold pass which completely cuts out all the non-US fans who want to purchase the pass. Plus it's a whole lot less convenient to go out and buy a pass at Gamestop instead of online. Yeah I don't understand why they don't sell them online I was actually thinking of buying one right now before I saw that. Seems like a weird bussiness decision, but perhaps they don't want too many people buying gold passes since they make more money from selling individual tickets and they know people who would buy gold passes will probably buy the individual ticket once the event is coming up.
Oh wow i didn't know that, that a bit of a disappointment. I'm glad i got mine last august so it still counts for most of the events this year. I should check to see if it will continue after that one expires, cause i like this gold membership thing.
Anyhow, very nice job MLG. I thought the 20 dollar for last arena was a bit much, even with my 5 dollar discount. Was still worth the money though. But this seems like a great price and the discount for gold members seems more now. I'll gladly get the spring pass! :D
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nope still not seeing it...
but maybe that's because everything around ppv was such a soup sandwich.
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Germany760 Posts
why cant i purchase arena #2 alone? arena #1 is a joke and qualifier is free..
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Finally, good service offer for MLG!
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Sweden1871 Posts
Very smart by MLG to put Spring Arena 2 and the qualifiers together for the pricing when probably 99% would not pay for a qualifier only, especially when it comes in SD for free.
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On March 30 2012 17:45 nemahsys wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 16:54 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 30 2012 16:46 nemahsys wrote:On March 30 2012 16:28 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 30 2012 16:19 nemahsys wrote:On March 30 2012 16:12 bayside wrote:
TBH, Im not going to pay for an event that isnt largely Korean, when KeSPA desides to go to sc2 I would gladly pay 15$ for a season, same as I do GSL, but its not really worth it to see the 8 EU and 8 NA members just autolose to koreans. god this is so true. are there people out there that actually enjoy watching machine vs. incontrol? because Machine vs IncontroL totally happened at the winter arena right? I used those two as an example of avg NA "pro gamers" that dont stand a chance against the actual top tier sc2 players (read: koreans). any random 2 NA players would have worked just as well. not like a guy from the NA qualifier beat Nestea or anything... exception that proves the rule anyone?
Not like huk beat oz or anything... or naniwa beat leenock or anything
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Going to the Dreamhack Eizo tournament so no april arena tickets for me. Still a bit ticked of that they keep scheduling on the same weekend as other big tournaments. I think both times they've announced their date after the other tournament organizer.
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Sweden1871 Posts
On March 30 2012 20:25 -TesteR- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 17:45 nemahsys wrote:On March 30 2012 16:54 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 30 2012 16:46 nemahsys wrote:On March 30 2012 16:28 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 30 2012 16:19 nemahsys wrote:On March 30 2012 16:12 bayside wrote:
TBH, Im not going to pay for an event that isnt largely Korean, when KeSPA desides to go to sc2 I would gladly pay 15$ for a season, same as I do GSL, but its not really worth it to see the 8 EU and 8 NA members just autolose to koreans. god this is so true. are there people out there that actually enjoy watching machine vs. incontrol? because Machine vs IncontroL totally happened at the winter arena right? I used those two as an example of avg NA "pro gamers" that dont stand a chance against the actual top tier sc2 players (read: koreans). any random 2 NA players would have worked just as well. not like a guy from the NA qualifier beat Nestea or anything... exception that proves the rule anyone? Not like huk beat oz or anything... or naniwa beat leenock or anything
Only DeMu was from the NA qualifier (which is the real topic of discussion), and he is not even american.
None of the NA players won against a non-NA player in the Arena. The only ones from the NA qualifier who managed to win against other players at the arena were a Swede and a Brit.
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On March 30 2012 20:32 Xcobidoo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 20:25 -TesteR- wrote:On March 30 2012 17:45 nemahsys wrote:On March 30 2012 16:54 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 30 2012 16:46 nemahsys wrote:On March 30 2012 16:28 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 30 2012 16:19 nemahsys wrote:On March 30 2012 16:12 bayside wrote:
TBH, Im not going to pay for an event that isnt largely Korean, when KeSPA desides to go to sc2 I would gladly pay 15$ for a season, same as I do GSL, but its not really worth it to see the 8 EU and 8 NA members just autolose to koreans. god this is so true. are there people out there that actually enjoy watching machine vs. incontrol? because Machine vs IncontroL totally happened at the winter arena right? I used those two as an example of avg NA "pro gamers" that dont stand a chance against the actual top tier sc2 players (read: koreans). any random 2 NA players would have worked just as well. not like a guy from the NA qualifier beat Nestea or anything... exception that proves the rule anyone? Not like huk beat oz or anything... or naniwa beat leenock or anything Only DeMu was from the NA qualifier (which is the real topic of discussion), and he is not even american. None of the NA players won against a non-NA player in the Arena. The only ones from the NA qualifier who managed to win against other players at the arena were a Swede and a Brit.
"but its not really worth it to see the 8 EU and 8 NA members just autolose to koreans."
^This is actually the topic of discussion, it started with this post. Your argument is invalid try again.
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does not sound fair at all to me.
all they did is adding the $30 for everything option which is way too much considering you cant watch everything (timezones, dates) and there is tons of free HD content or HD content for much less $/month (ESL-HD for ~$50/year and there is much much much more content available, not only SC2).
that said it's still a valid option for someone who wants to watch everything and who wants to support MLG as organisation (who invites koreans and pays for everything, etc,etc).
but it's not a fair price for the given content.
all they did is overprice the first event (by aloooot) so these events seem to look good, but they dont.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
So wait, the thing i buoght for $30 for the last event does not count?
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