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Knock off the SC2 vs BW vs LoL vs whatever crap please.
AndysRaulSioux
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada45 Posts
March 24 2012 19:02 GMT
#161
Why are they even still playing that dead game over there? And now they're gonna be playing 2 dead games? I find the management sense of Blizzard to be high questionable.
pirates
Profile Joined October 2010
United States701 Posts
March 24 2012 19:02 GMT
#162
On March 25 2012 04:01 Anyx wrote:
When i read most comments in this thread, i am starting thinking that it would be a good idea to see combined BW/SC2 proleague. If both games will stay one next to other directly, then SC2 fanboys will see how incomplete SC2 is compared to BW ......


i agree with that last line a lot. i would be happy to see SC2 in proleague but I would be really sad to see brood war die off.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 24 2012 19:04 GMT
#163
On March 25 2012 03:59 GeNeSiDe wrote:
Yeah I mean look at the VOD's on GOM's site, the more popular VOD's have 100k+ views on them, I dont think anything in SC universe competes with that kind of viewership.

I think progression from BW to SC2 is a good thing, it's been 2 years since SC2 release, if we consolidate all the fans then we have a much bigger scene rather than basically an identical game being seperated. The BW pros who switch aren't going to smash against a skill ceiling; they will adjust to the new game's mechanics and the smart players (JD, FLash, Bisu) will survive, because their superior mechanics will keep up with the sc2 requirements, and when they arent managing 12 units at a time im sure there will be some epic displays of multitasking and strategy.

Saying that i'm sure there's some BW pros who will switch and fail because their main strength WAS their mechanics and were lacking in terms of creativity/starsense/strategy, which IMO in SC2 is like the main differential between a mid-level pro and the top ends.

BW has to die, its old now, the longer it takes the harder to adjust for the pros, let's be honest I'm sure alot of the pros still play BW not out of love of the game, but the fact that that was where their money was being made.

And BW die-hards, would you rather see Starcraft 2 or League of Legends become the mainstay eSports title in the coming years? If you answer LoL, you aren't as die-hard as you claim to be. Love thy grandson as thy love thou son and protect your own!



Wait, are you fucking kidding me? You do realize big BW events get millions of viewers right?

Maybe you should go read all of their interviews then. Everything in that statement is false.

And sorry, just because something has Starcraft in it's name does not mean it automatically earns my viewership/support. This is honestly one of the stupidest posts I've seen yet.
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Grey8
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany42 Posts
March 24 2012 19:04 GMT
#164
As much as I love broodwar, and all the memories I've made watching it, BW has lived a long and fruitful life. It's time to let go.
I wanna be, the very best...
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
March 24 2012 19:04 GMT
#165
On March 25 2012 03:57 InoyouS2 wrote:
Sc2 is 3D, BW is 2D. Also I'm pretty certain Sc2 games are way more fun to watch (not necessarily as much skill displayed), and there is a huge viewer base for Sc2 which is also international.


Wow. Amazing. You're totally right, I never realized it. I am now an SC2 fan.
BW forever || Thall
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 19:05:45
March 24 2012 19:05 GMT
#166
On March 25 2012 03:58 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 03:56 iloveav wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:18 lottopk wrote:
Its inevitable. Everything must progress and bw is getting old.

User was warned for this post


Why was this user warned?
Its quite obvious that its a reality. Hell, in fact BW IS OLD.

I dont play sc2 at all after i bought it and i still love sc. Stating that BW is old is some form of... insult?


Chris Rock once said:"People who have the most shit, get to say the least shit."

SC2 fans only stand to gain from this, while BW fans have everything to lose. Their frustration is understandable and just letting them have this to rant isn't really a big deal...



Yet not warning others is? Thats my point. In general Admins are people who have to forget about "who people feel" and be fair, other way they make the mistake (quite common on the other hand) to think the world sees things the same way that i do.

Im quite sure us internet guys can do better than this :D

aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
Ollie
Profile Joined October 2011
United States144 Posts
March 24 2012 19:05 GMT
#167
If people want SC2 to succeed, they eventually have to pay more attention to it. Right now, BW and SC2 can coexist peacefully. But, after a while, one will have to go.
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dcsoda
Profile Joined June 2011
United States583 Posts
March 24 2012 19:05 GMT
#168
On March 25 2012 04:01 Anyx wrote:
When i read most comments in this thread, i am starting thinking that it would be a good idea to see combined BW/SC2 proleague. If both games will stay one next to other directly, then SC2 fanboys will see how incomplete SC2 is compared to BW ......


And comments like this are any better? Man as someone who enjoys both games let it go, fanboys as a definition will never be convinced of anything. Unless you'd be willing to admit you could have your view of SC2 changed?
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
March 24 2012 19:06 GMT
#169
On March 25 2012 03:59 GeNeSiDe wrote:
And BW die-hards, would you rather see Starcraft 2 or League of Legends become the mainstay eSports title in the coming years? If you answer LoL, you aren't as die-hard as you claim to be. Love thy grandson as thy love thou son and protect your own!


Makes zero difference to me, I don't like either of those games.
BW forever || Thall
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
March 24 2012 19:06 GMT
#170
On March 25 2012 04:04 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 03:57 InoyouS2 wrote:
Sc2 is 3D, BW is 2D. Also I'm pretty certain Sc2 games are way more fun to watch (not necessarily as much skill displayed), and there is a huge viewer base for Sc2 which is also international.


Wow. Amazing. You're totally right, I never realized it. I am now an SC2 fan.

Here's a better thread for you to discuss this news.
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 19:09:33
March 24 2012 19:07 GMT
#171
On March 25 2012 04:04 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 03:57 InoyouS2 wrote:
Sc2 is 3D, BW is 2D. Also I'm pretty certain Sc2 games are way more fun to watch (not necessarily as much skill displayed), and there is a huge viewer base for Sc2 which is also international.


Wow. Amazing. You're totally right, I never realized it. I am now an SC2 fan.

Well said. I hate it that so many SC2-only fans bash on Broodwar for being inferior to its updated "counterpart". Broodwar is still very exciting, and SC2 games cannot compare to it in any way. I really wish that the Broodwar pro scene will not die soon. A combined SC2/BW Proleague is a good prospect yes, but phasing out BW eventually is not.
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InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
March 24 2012 19:07 GMT
#172
Dear lord, the BW haters in this thread are lulzy, get over yourselves, I'm sure nobody in the SC2 community would like to see BW go, but some things have to happen, take your anger somewhere else.
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Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
March 24 2012 19:10 GMT
#173
On March 25 2012 02:11 nokz88 wrote:
TIG source
An unnamed Korean industry insider said "There is a strong possibility that the next season of Proleague will have both SCBW and SC2, and the next one after that will have only SC2".


No no no no

pls do not go that way. =(


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latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
March 24 2012 19:10 GMT
#174
I remember around sc2's release when kespa and blizz were in fights, kespa claimed that in return for rights for sc2 broadcats blizzard was asking them to transition out of broodwar, so bw stopping could be a blizzard request.
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
March 24 2012 19:10 GMT
#175
Ok, ok lets not make this a sc2 vs bw war.

I think everyone will agree that when bw started and proleague became famous, pc gaming was a "nerd thing", and i mean it in a negative way in this case.

This is like saying:

Call of duty 4 is far better than call of duty 1-2.

Hold on here: call of duty 1-2 reached how much of its potencial market? i mean at that point how many ppl even cared of gaming.
And of those, how much % actually got the game.

You cannot compare things that are 3 years apart at all, much least 10+ years!

Its like comparing mayan human sacrifice to a serial killer. It just dosent add up.

I know some people might think that im going a bit too far by comparing 10 years to 3.000 years of history, but our world changes so rapidly that a small market like gaming can easily shift even on 1 single game.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
powerdawg96
Profile Joined November 2010
United States129 Posts
March 24 2012 19:11 GMT
#176
ys hopefully there will still be BW
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1837 Posts
March 24 2012 19:11 GMT
#177
On March 25 2012 04:04 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 03:57 InoyouS2 wrote:
Sc2 is 3D, BW is 2D. Also I'm pretty certain Sc2 games are way more fun to watch (not necessarily as much skill displayed), and there is a huge viewer base for Sc2 which is also international.


Wow. Amazing. You're totally right, I never realized it. I am now an SC2 fan.


Oh my God SC2 is 3D?! Wow I never knew that, dropping everything right now to head to Walmart to buy a copy. No wonder it's the future of ESPORTS!
Capulet
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada686 Posts
March 24 2012 19:12 GMT
#178
On March 25 2012 03:35 storkfan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 03:21 NoDDiE wrote:
On March 25 2012 03:15 Bagi wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:18 lottopk wrote:
Its inevitable. Everything must progress and bw is getting old.

User was warned for this post

Why do posts like this one get warnings, when people in the BW forum are free to call SC2 a shit game with no future?


i agree with that guy. sc2 flaming = fine
bw flaming = warning ? how is this supposed to be fair ?

Do you throw insults at your grandpa? No dude, its just not right.. Its not like with buddies busting each others balls. When it comes to elders, one must respect and understand what they have done.


So many of the newer members don't seem to realize that this site was initially a BW site. Also, the warning is legitimate as it is in accordance with the Ten Commandments (1st commandment).

That being said, I sincerely hope they do not merge the two games. I enjoy watching BW and I enjoy watching SC2. But as strange as it may seem, I just know I won't enjoy watching BW+SC2.
"I'm just killing the spiders to save the butterflies... Wanting to save both is a contradiction. What would you rather do? Keep deliberating? The butterfly will be eaten in the meantime."
SpadeAce
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands100 Posts
March 24 2012 19:12 GMT
#179
I guess they want to make the change between bw and sc2 slowly starting off with bw and sc2 combined next season, I never followed bw, but in my opinion if the bw top starts competing in sc2, the quality of the games will improve heavily, as the current sc2 top will have to step up their game to keep up with the top of bw pros, atleast that's what I hope!
lasermauser
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany16 Posts
March 24 2012 19:14 GMT
#180
The discussion sounds like the cs vs css one, I hope both games still get tournaments. As a Sc2 fan it would be quiet nice to see BW pros switch but i think many of them would just quit gaming, if they shut down BW. But its to soon to realy tell what will happen keep in mind that HOTS will be released "soon".
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