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Code S Groups - GSL 2012 Season 2 - Page 15

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HiSi
Profile Joined October 2011
United States68 Posts
March 19 2012 16:11 GMT
#281
I feel like most of these groups are going to be very difficult to call. We will have some pretty big upsets.
Hakanfrog
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden690 Posts
March 19 2012 16:11 GMT
#282
Naniwa might actually advance

He is good at PvP, he has beaten MVP and Ryung isn´t very good at PvT at all.
Youlovemeboo
Profile Joined August 2011
United States9 Posts
March 19 2012 16:15 GMT
#283
DRG has all ZvT match ups this is going to be entertaining. I'm excited for group F and G.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
March 19 2012 16:17 GMT
#284
After all this time they still call Oz Z.
milesfacade
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom799 Posts
March 19 2012 16:19 GMT
#285
On March 20 2012 00:55 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 00:47 Lorch wrote:
How is the first one the hardest one? DRG will crush everyone there and jjakji is on an other level then stc and especially taeja.

Anyways pretty decent group, the first 4 don't really excite me, but the 2nd half looks awesome. I feel kinda bad for nestea, this is the kind of group where he'll play around 6 games where is is miles ahead and then looses.

If Naniwa plays as good as he played at recent mlgs he'll make it out no problem.

Potentially the best player in the world
Terran who won the highest level GSL final ever
Terran who's been terrifying for ages, though admittedly somewhat inconsistent
Terran who's similarly terrifying and has shown ability to destroy everyone, but suffers from nerve issues


You vastly underestimate Taeja and TheStC. They would be favoured to get out of most groups.


TheStC has really weak tvz, that's why he's a really solid pick from DRG. He may still get out of the group on his tvt, I think 2nd place in that group is pretty up in the air.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
March 19 2012 16:21 GMT
#286
Naniwa drew the best group possible. Both Terrans are not too strong in TvP and Puzzle can be very inconsistent in all matchups. I feel he can advance.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Dirtysocks
Profile Joined August 2011
Czech Republic68 Posts
March 19 2012 16:22 GMT
#287
I think DRG has it... sadly.

UNLESS! a) blizzard come to intervene b) DRG looses to MMA or some sick terran in ro16, then we can finally have protoss champion.
Echo_
Profile Joined November 2010
48 Posts
March 19 2012 16:28 GMT
#288
Parting/Oz = PvT masters

Polt/Fin = TvP masters

How is this not the resounding choice for group of death?

Regardless, I am as giddy as ever for this season's GSL.
IMMvp / AcerMMA / NSHjjakji / MarineKingPrime / STBomber / SKTFantasy / STXINnoVation / KTFlash
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 16:32:26
March 19 2012 16:30 GMT
#289
These groups are pretty ridiculously close in most cases for the second r16 spot.. in each group.

Edit:I'm calling it right now MC takes this gsl.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Svizcy
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovenia300 Posts
March 19 2012 16:31 GMT
#290
Ohhh lol, nice groups. I like how favorites are spread out.
DRG in heaven probably with 3 terrans in his group (still his best MU i believe?)

good day, svizcy
milesfacade
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom799 Posts
March 19 2012 16:32 GMT
#291
On March 20 2012 01:28 Echo_ wrote:
Parting/Oz = PvT masters

Polt/Fin = TvP masters

How is this not the resounding choice for group of death?

Regardless, I am as giddy as ever for this season's GSL.


Although it is my group of death, I chose it as such due to my view that the players are all of similar level. I don't feel as though Polt and especially Fin as tvp masters, I'm pretty sure parting and oz will move on.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
March 19 2012 16:33 GMT
#292
On March 20 2012 01:28 Echo_ wrote:
Parting/Oz = PvT masters

Polt/Fin = TvP masters

How is this not the resounding choice for group of death?

Regardless, I am as giddy as ever for this season's GSL.


Polt = TvP master.

Fin = TvP noobie ^^
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
-JoKeR-
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada387 Posts
March 19 2012 16:36 GMT
#293
The last group is probably the group of death in this GSL season, like shit all of them are scary.

Go HerO and Naniwa!
lowercase
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1047 Posts
March 19 2012 16:38 GMT
#294
I still think group F is the hardest - MMA, Leenock, Squirtle, and Nada.

Also, what the heck is the Atlantis Spaceship map? Really looking forward to Ohana RE as well.
That is not dead which can eternal lie...
thrawn1020
Profile Joined April 2011
United States32 Posts
March 19 2012 16:40 GMT
#295
On March 20 2012 00:55 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Potentially the best player in the world
Terran who won the highest level GSL final ever
Terran who's been terrifying for ages, though admittedly somewhat inconsistent
Terran who's similarly terrifying and has shown ability to destroy everyone, but suffers from nerve issues

You vastly underestimate Taeja and TheStC. They would be favoured to get out of most groups.


The highest level GSL final ever was won by DRG. theSTC was not even the best terran in his up and down group in an absolute sense...sC was extremely sick/unwell. The competition in that up/down was also basically lower than the others. The achievement there was that he made it through. That does not make him favored in this group, or any other. Remember, DRG picked theSTC. Not Maru, not Virus, not Polt. theSTC. It wasn't for lack of options in the matchup.

Taeja...has not played a good Zerg or a good Terran in quite some time on TV. His opponents in last code a were TSLMyWay, FXOLucky, and ST Squirtle. Of those, squirtle made it through the up and downs, Lucky is not in Code S this season, and MyWay...I don't think myWay is in the GSL currently. So we haven't seen much if anything from him in the last 3 months in the matchups he's expected to play. He's a dog in the matchup against DRG no matter what, and theSTC is likely to be favored. Beating Jjakji will be his best shot. He may have to do it twice.

Jjakji is good, and should be favored to get out. He's not unbeatable. Check out his games from group A in Season one. His macro was sloppy in both the first sets against Sen, even though he went 2-0. His decisionmaking is not terrible, and he had a good run to his GSL. But I don't think he's top 5 at his own race currently. If he has a bad season, it starts to look more like he had a deep run at a particular time and place, not that he has long-term staying power.

On paper, the group is solid. But it's hardly a group of death.
Good things come to those who are aggressive!
Echo_
Profile Joined November 2010
48 Posts
March 19 2012 16:41 GMT
#296
On March 20 2012 01:32 milesfacade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 01:28 Echo_ wrote:
Parting/Oz = PvT masters

Polt/Fin = TvP masters

How is this not the resounding choice for group of death?

Regardless, I am as giddy as ever for this season's GSL.


Although it is my group of death, I chose it as such due to my view that the players are all of similar level. I don't feel as though Polt and especially Fin as tvp masters, I'm pretty sure parting and oz will move on.


I have to agree there. I know that Polt/Fin aren't the best TvP but they are pretty darn good at it. Although, every Code S Terran seems to have really good TvP in my eyes of course .


On March 20 2012 01:38 lowercase wrote:
I still think group F is the hardest - MMA, Leenock, Squirtle, and Nada.


I have to disagree. MMA should straight up brute force his way through this group. Depending who plays who first, it will likely be Leenock as 2nd. Although, I haven't seen much of Squirtle to be fair.
IMMvp / AcerMMA / NSHjjakji / MarineKingPrime / STBomber / SKTFantasy / STXINnoVation / KTFlash
shadowy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Bulgaria305 Posts
March 19 2012 16:42 GMT
#297
Those groups are amazing. Hardly could be better. Can't wait to being.
[Fear the leather Gracket!] // ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ // Liquid'Hero hwaiting!
Dirtysocks
Profile Joined August 2011
Czech Republic68 Posts
March 19 2012 16:42 GMT
#298
Good for Naniwa that he plays Ryung first. If Puzzle beat MMA he can get out of group first. But again. their group will be played in a month. A lot of time for everyone to practice.
Ghrimnar
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany260 Posts
March 19 2012 16:43 GMT
#299
On March 19 2012 23:21 Miah121 wrote:
I hope MC gets out of his group. With the way DRG is playing, it seems only the godly vZs of MMA and MC can take him down.


If MVP can overcome his wrist issues he will be back with full force and can kill DRG as well. Lets see if that is gonna happen.
oGsMC // NSHS_Sage // IMMvp // IMNesTea
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
March 19 2012 16:48 GMT
#300
On March 19 2012 23:58 Ansinjunger wrote:
I think DRG might finish 4th in his group, but not 3rd. The upset will be swift or it won't happen. He's strong mentally so in a 2nd/3rd place match between two 1-1 players, he'll be likely to keep his composure, probably more so than the others in his group. Of course if he plays his best from the outset, he's favored to win the group.


Translation: Anything can happen. Safe, safe.
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
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