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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 11 2012 15:46 GMT
#461
On March 12 2012 00:44 Hren wrote:
What was the last tournament these two actually met?


Age ago, DH winter 2011.
Naniwa won.
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benKrO71
Profile Joined September 2011
France65 Posts
March 11 2012 15:51 GMT
#462
but before the ipl 3 when nani was in europe i remember stephano in his stream beated naniwa several time on ladder, since the DH winter and since nani is in korea they both improved a lot, so theses old results means nothing for me. they are the 2 best foreigners actually but i don't know who is the best it will be very close series i guess
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Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
March 11 2012 15:58 GMT
#463
On March 11 2012 23:51 ThatGuy89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 23:42 Zealously wrote:
I'd bet my entire salary on Nani any time. He beat Sheth, Leenock and Nestea at Winter Arena and has a (close to?) 100% win rate vs. Stephano.

yea all 3 of them (sheth questionable) have better ZvP then stephano but there are far too many stephano fan boys for you to say something like that here.

Im a fan of stephano, but i cant wait until some toss player smacks him so everyone can stop saying hes unbeatablle ZvP - and hopefully nani can do that

I dunno, I think you could make a reasonable argument that Stephano and Leenock are on at least the same level in ZvP. Leenock's ZvP is quite bad compared to his other matchups. I know it's just stats, but his Korean ZvP Elo is something like #45. He's only been able to make it deep into the GSL by not running into Korean Protosses.
lrofd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States187 Posts
March 11 2012 16:00 GMT
#464
On March 11 2012 08:14 Corsica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 08:12 supsun wrote:
Stephano will win anyway. By accepting naniwa would lose$5000. Which is a lot of cash


Remember Naniwa is in Korea, and you didnt see him for a long time, while Stephano was practicing on European ladder making such statement is pointless without any considerations


nani is in korea and what are his results vs what stephano achieved in the little time he was in korea?

bc yes stephano was also in korea...you should see what he did on the ladder there.
FiNTer
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland153 Posts
March 11 2012 16:03 GMT
#465
On March 11 2012 18:04 ceaRshaf wrote:
In the last 30 games Stephano is 27-3 winning games over:

Feast,elfi,TypeReal,Mana,NightEnd, Grubbu, Seiplo, Bling, HEADHUNTER, Rotterdam,monchi.

In the last 30 games Naniwa is 14-16 winning games over:

Leenock, Nestea, Sheth, Zenio, DRG, Ciara.

Kinda different type of players don't you think?

thats what im thinking imo stephano hasnt prove himself against top koreans
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robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
March 11 2012 16:07 GMT
#466
On March 12 2012 01:03 FiNTer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 18:04 ceaRshaf wrote:
In the last 30 games Stephano is 27-3 winning games over:

Feast,elfi,TypeReal,Mana,NightEnd, Grubbu, Seiplo, Bling, HEADHUNTER, Rotterdam,monchi.

In the last 30 games Naniwa is 14-16 winning games over:

Leenock, Nestea, Sheth, Zenio, DRG, Ciara.

Kinda different type of players don't you think?

thats what im thinking imo stephano hasnt prove himself against top koreans


then again, naniwa is no top korean
Benjamin80
Profile Joined February 2012
581 Posts
March 11 2012 16:07 GMT
#467
On March 12 2012 01:03 FiNTer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 18:04 ceaRshaf wrote:
In the last 30 games Stephano is 27-3 winning games over:

Feast,elfi,TypeReal,Mana,NightEnd, Grubbu, Seiplo, Bling, HEADHUNTER, Rotterdam,monchi.

In the last 30 games Naniwa is 14-16 winning games over:

Leenock, Nestea, Sheth, Zenio, DRG, Ciara.

Kinda different type of players don't you think?

thats what im thinking imo stephano hasnt prove himself against top koreans


Ok, he just destroyed Puma less then 3 weeks ago and Puma just took 2nd place at IEM beating MMA. And im not evne gonna go into the long list of other koreans he beat at IPL 3 ESWC, IPL 4 qualifier and NASL qualifier. Do you even watch sc2?

Btw IPL should make this showmatch hapend at IPL 4 would be cool
[QUOTE][B]On March 19 2012 02:32 iNcontroL wrote:[/B] IF LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS YOU CANNON RUSH[/QUOTE]
thesideshow
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
930 Posts
March 11 2012 16:08 GMT
#468
Awesome drama! XD People need to hype this up and raise the stakes (pride) even more!
OGS:levelchange
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
March 11 2012 16:09 GMT
#469
On March 12 2012 01:07 robih wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 01:03 FiNTer wrote:
On March 11 2012 18:04 ceaRshaf wrote:
In the last 30 games Stephano is 27-3 winning games over:

Feast,elfi,TypeReal,Mana,NightEnd, Grubbu, Seiplo, Bling, HEADHUNTER, Rotterdam,monchi.

In the last 30 games Naniwa is 14-16 winning games over:

Leenock, Nestea, Sheth, Zenio, DRG, Ciara.

Kinda different type of players don't you think?

thats what im thinking imo stephano hasnt prove himself against top koreans


then again, naniwa is no top korean

And unless he changes his nationality he will never be... He is a top Swede though.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
lrofd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States187 Posts
March 11 2012 16:09 GMT
#470
On March 11 2012 20:29 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 20:25 opterown wrote:
On March 11 2012 20:22 mememolly wrote:
On March 11 2012 20:09 ceaRshaf wrote:
Morrow got this right.

We need:

- the showmatch played on the same server
- bo9
- 2 awesome casters
- each map taken values 1000$
- the loser has to tweet for a month that the winner is the best foreign out there.


a month is a long time in the twitter world, maybe a day would suffice, also, as said, it needs two really good casters preferably players, idra/destiny and incontrol?


Grubby and IdrA!


yeah that would be sick as fuck, forgot about grubby, probably the best playercaster out there along with idra


ppl dont mention rotterdam enough...he's so funny casting along other players like grubby and all
lrofd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States187 Posts
March 11 2012 16:12 GMT
#471
On March 12 2012 01:03 FiNTer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 18:04 ceaRshaf wrote:
In the last 30 games Stephano is 27-3 winning games over:

Feast,elfi,TypeReal,Mana,NightEnd, Grubbu, Seiplo, Bling, HEADHUNTER, Rotterdam,monchi.

In the last 30 games Naniwa is 14-16 winning games over:

Leenock, Nestea, Sheth, Zenio, DRG, Ciara.

Kinda different type of players don't you think?

thats what im thinking imo stephano hasnt prove himself against top koreans



did you see the blizzard cup? no other foreigners simply walked in and went toe-to-toe with top class like koreans like stephano did.

wait no no....naniwa did play in the code.....nm..
look at naniwa's results in the low brackets of GSL
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
March 11 2012 16:13 GMT
#472
On March 12 2012 01:07 Benjamin80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 01:03 FiNTer wrote:
On March 11 2012 18:04 ceaRshaf wrote:
In the last 30 games Stephano is 27-3 winning games over:

Feast,elfi,TypeReal,Mana,NightEnd, Grubbu, Seiplo, Bling, HEADHUNTER, Rotterdam,monchi.

In the last 30 games Naniwa is 14-16 winning games over:

Leenock, Nestea, Sheth, Zenio, DRG, Ciara.

Kinda different type of players don't you think?

thats what im thinking imo stephano hasnt prove himself against top koreans


Ok, he just destroyed Puma less then 3 weeks ago and Puma just took 2nd place at IEM beating MMA. And im not evne gonna go into the long list of other koreans he beat at IPL 3 ESWC, IPL 4 qualifier and NASL qualifier. Do you even watch sc2?

Btw IPL should make this showmatch hapend at IPL 4 would be cool


So name them. We'll pick out all the Code S level Protosses that he has beaten.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
March 11 2012 16:18 GMT
#473
On March 12 2012 01:13 how2TL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 01:07 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 12 2012 01:03 FiNTer wrote:
On March 11 2012 18:04 ceaRshaf wrote:
In the last 30 games Stephano is 27-3 winning games over:

Feast,elfi,TypeReal,Mana,NightEnd, Grubbu, Seiplo, Bling, HEADHUNTER, Rotterdam,monchi.

In the last 30 games Naniwa is 14-16 winning games over:

Leenock, Nestea, Sheth, Zenio, DRG, Ciara.

Kinda different type of players don't you think?

thats what im thinking imo stephano hasnt prove himself against top koreans


Ok, he just destroyed Puma less then 3 weeks ago and Puma just took 2nd place at IEM beating MMA. And im not evne gonna go into the long list of other koreans he beat at IPL 3 ESWC, IPL 4 qualifier and NASL qualifier. Do you even watch sc2?

Btw IPL should make this showmatch hapend at IPL 4 would be cool


So name them. We'll pick out all the Code S level Protosses that he has beaten.



pick out all the code S level protosses he has PLAYED in the last 3 months.

on another note: pick out ANY ZERG who has PLAYED vs code s level protosses in the last 3 months. you will find 1, and he lost everything: IdrA.

whoever denies that stephano is the best foreign zerg, best foreigner or best ZvP (sheth is good, but cmon, stephano is still another level...) is simply a huge hater, doesnt look at results, doesnt understand anything about SC2.

Ask any progamer who the best foreigner is atm - even IDRA himself would say that its stephano.
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Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
March 11 2012 16:19 GMT
#474
Oh God, people saying Sheth has a better ZvP than Stephano...

He admitted that he tries to copy Stephano's style but isn't there uite yet.

Haters...-_-
Dr.Sin
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1126 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 16:21:11
March 11 2012 16:20 GMT
#475
I think Stephano would take it, but I am totally rooting for Naniwa. Its a bit crazy to think a champion like Nani would be the underdog and I'd like to see him get it. A showmatch this epic would have to have epic casting with Day9, Tastosis or incontrol.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
March 11 2012 16:21 GMT
#476
LOL are people saying that Stephano is best zerg in the world?
Benjamin80
Profile Joined February 2012
581 Posts
March 11 2012 16:22 GMT
#477
On March 12 2012 01:13 how2TL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 01:07 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 12 2012 01:03 FiNTer wrote:
On March 11 2012 18:04 ceaRshaf wrote:
In the last 30 games Stephano is 27-3 winning games over:

Feast,elfi,TypeReal,Mana,NightEnd, Grubbu, Seiplo, Bling, HEADHUNTER, Rotterdam,monchi.

In the last 30 games Naniwa is 14-16 winning games over:

Leenock, Nestea, Sheth, Zenio, DRG, Ciara.

Kinda different type of players don't you think?

thats what im thinking imo stephano hasnt prove himself against top koreans


Ok, he just destroyed Puma less then 3 weeks ago and Puma just took 2nd place at IEM beating MMA. And im not evne gonna go into the long list of other koreans he beat at IPL 3 ESWC, IPL 4 qualifier and NASL qualifier. Do you even watch sc2?

Btw IPL should make this showmatch hapend at IPL 4 would be cool


So name them. We'll pick out all the Code S level Protosses that he has beaten.


When stephano was just a baby he beat Huk who at the time was a code S protoss and Stephano dominated huk so much in HSC 3 it wasnt even a fair fight. Are Code S players good? Yes. Are they overrated? Yes


[QUOTE][B]On March 19 2012 02:32 iNcontroL wrote:[/B] IF LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS YOU CANNON RUSH[/QUOTE]
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
March 11 2012 16:22 GMT
#478
On March 12 2012 01:21 trinxified wrote:
LOL are people saying that Stephano is best zerg in the world?


No. They are saying hes the best foreigner zerg for sure.
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Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
March 11 2012 16:24 GMT
#479
On March 12 2012 01:21 trinxified wrote:
LOL are people saying that Stephano is best zerg in the world?


learn2read....

User was warned for this post
SC2ShoWTimE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 16:26:50
March 11 2012 16:25 GMT
#480
On March 12 2012 01:07 Benjamin80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 01:03 FiNTer wrote:
On March 11 2012 18:04 ceaRshaf wrote:
In the last 30 games Stephano is 27-3 winning games over:

Feast,elfi,TypeReal,Mana,NightEnd, Grubbu, Seiplo, Bling, HEADHUNTER, Rotterdam,monchi.

In the last 30 games Naniwa is 14-16 winning games over:

Leenock, Nestea, Sheth, Zenio, DRG, Ciara.

Kinda different type of players don't you think?

thats what im thinking imo stephano hasnt prove himself against top koreans


Ok, he just destroyed Puma less then 3 weeks ago and Puma just took 2nd place at IEM beating MMA. And im not evne gonna go into the long list of other koreans he beat at IPL 3 ESWC, IPL 4 qualifier and NASL qualifier. Do you even watch sc2?

Btw IPL should make this showmatch hapend at IPL 4 would be cool


stephano has a sick record against european/american protoss players but whenever he played against top korean protoss like mc he lost. that is the reason why his zvp record is not as good as many think it is.

i am not saying stephanos zvp is bad or anything but saying he is the best zvp player based on his zvp record is just ignorant.

@topic
i would love to see this showmatch i think it would be an interesting and close series.
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